unclear if that still counts as a spotlight

i'm pretty sure the whole thing is that they are a bright beam on a single spot and that's like, most certainly more than one spot :p

No, see, you immerse the earth in the sun!

(Wait, you can still see one star then, nevermind)

with what eyes left to see? :p

@cairdcoinheringaahing i tried and ended up first breaking every site and then bricking my browser

you can't just do document.body.innerHTML = document.body.innerHTML.replace("69", "nice");

wow. i wonder why not

and for whatever reason recursively doing that to only elements without children also just doesn't do anything

maybe replacing anything with charcode 69 anywhere in the html with the text 'nice' would be better

i don't have a fucking clue why but I'm inclined to say JS is just garbage

@hyper-neutrino let me try that

CMC: Brick your browser

Charcode 69 is E

oh redwolf would like that then

@Bubbler JS, for(;;);

@hyper-neutrino Ah, the famed "Redwolf" strategy of development

But replacing E with nice does not change the count of e

well then just keep looping and doing it until it does change the count somehow :)

But, it does recursively expand the number of characters to infinity, assuming E = e

ok yeah i don't think i can make this work

And, since infinity is greater than all integers, expanding it to inftnity means it has an infinite number of e's

No, the count of e is an invariant, so it is constant even after expanding it to infinity

@cairdcoinheringaahing can't argue with that logic

@hyper-neutrino Can you be my professors, I wish they said that whenever I turn in the bs logic that makes up half my homeworks :P

idea: jelly but it uses APL's tacit system

Isn't that just APL?

It's APL with custom built-ins

that sounds like jelly but worse (for golfing) (better in terms of keeping your sanity)

@hyper-neutrino why worse for golfing?

in general i think jelly's tacit system is more favorable for golfing

ok what other languages use a different tacit system?

J

which is similar to APL's but more complicated

@Bubbler docs?

@PyGamer0 3-train (fork), 2-train (hook)

Hook is different from APL's 2-train (atop), and fork has a special case where the left side is [:

Idea: Jelly but three of my friends try and hunt me down and stop me from beating Vyxal.

@emanresuA minecraft but 3 of my friends try to hunt me down but they dont have brains so i disabled their spacebar key

@hyper-neutrino peer pressure

hi

@JeganS hi!

@UnrelatedString did you just change your pfp to a catgirl again?

perhaps

@Bubbler and you can do small powers of 2 multiplied by 5 too I hope

Well technically yeah

technically is the best sort of correct

@Bubbler I immediately think of Bill the Cat :P

@RedwolfPrograms ... Huh, interesting

(In modern Pip, it returns 1e+200, same as Python does)

@cairdcoinheringaahing Well, Redwolf's been trying to murder math(s), so I'd say it counts as self-defense /s

@DLosc imagine not returning the full number

Maybe by symbolic math gang

Oh, it does, as long as you use integers.

(Though, any floating point result with 0 fractional part is converted to an integer, so now I'm not sure if technically 100.0 should be treated as 100 to begin with... hm.)

Floating-point support in Pip has always been a bit half-baked, I guess.

@DLosc easy use sympy

or that symbolic math library I found for scala

@lyxal I've stayed away from adding anything to Pip that requires installing extra Python packages

@DLosc that's fair. Maybe the decimals or fractions library then

@cairdcoinheringaahing how about I don't

someone sensible \o/

what's caird gonna do? steal my limbs?

Announcement: The 25 challenges for AoCG2021 are ready (almost). Feedback appreciated, and let me know if you have ideas or opinions for the challenge ordering.

Damn frick, the starboard is way too small

until i noticed you unpinned the previous aocg pin i was worried that this pin actually managed not to show on the starboard

@hyper-neutrino could i get a profile refresh for chat?

I have festive pfp and se chat is rather cringe sometimes

@DLosc so you'd rather avoid using pip for pip

@UnrelatedString ai generated

nice

the colors are a lot more solid than i'm accustomed to seeing for some reason

The prompt was "Lyxal at Christmas time"

ah

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.womboai.wombodream

That's what I used to make i5

*it

That's the full sized image

okay it definitely looks less comicy at higher resolution

@Bubbler Which order are WW (GG?)'s extra parts coming in?

Are we doing a Best Of CGCC 2021?

presumably

Whatcha all think of my christmas pfp?

(such creative amirite)

lol

Are you going to get a christmas PFP?

probably not

maybe I'm too much of a scrooge, but I don't really care about that kind of thing

@emanresuA hardly visible

@pxeger I think so

It usually doesn't start getting organised until January

Pygamer, do you want me to put a hat on your PFP?

^ Okay, here's what it looks like if you want it

CMC guess the prompt

Note that it was specifically rendered in the synthwave style

^ potential pfp?

Sure, although if I were you I'd fix the symettery

@cairdcoinheringaahing On it, I can just reuse my script to swap 0 and ♾ :p

@lyxal Something to do with christmas?

@emanresuA ^?

Nice!

done

@emanresuA no u

@lyxal cyberpunk scene with explosion

@PyGamer0 no

It was emanresuA

lol

Can I use that as my PFP?

Of course

I didn't make it the AI did

@lyxal what AI is that?

@emanresuA just note there was nothing about Christmas in the prompt, so you might want to add a Santa hat

Although it's not like the hat hunt will probably happen again

Ya mean winter bash?

Yeah that one

Hatted

ok hows my pfp

@PyGamer0 it's a tiny bit unobvious that the other colour is supposed to be red

@PyGamer0 that's you

@lyxal Kinda sus

A M O N G U S

December gang!

(You'll be there in two hours, Lyxal)

o/

o/

@lyxal and @emanresuA you are far too hard to tell apart

alright who installed the "replace everyone with caird on the starboard" userscript on my computer?

but I'll reroll mine

I finally managed to crop my new pfp to under 2mb

I still don't know how to back up my current gravicon

@Neil just download it?

gravatar.com/avatar/… ​

@lyxal uh oh, is caird invading again?

@rues seems like it

Are your pfps generated by nightcafe or whatever it’s called?

you want one?

@lyxal looks cool

so i changed my pfp to that

Haha ai gang lets go

lets goo

I made a bunch for other TNB users btw

Feel free to use them if you want

@RedwolfPrograms this you?

Also happy December seeing as how it's now dec 1 for me

o/

why do i have to wait another 23 hours to put a bounty

first i have to wait for one bounty to be finished for like a week then i gotta wait another day after i click ok on the bounty like whats with all the waitin

bounties are really not designed for what we use them for

evil they should redesign the bounty system for our needs specifically

@pxeger why 1000?

I just picked a high resolution so you could save a good quality copy

because the original URL was from your chat profile pic, which was only 38px or something like that

sucks. seems like the profile editor itself likes 328 for some reason

so now my profile image on cgcc is a 328 pixel snapshot of my former gravatar

(it's still the gravatar on other sites at least)

CMC: Split a string into factorial sized chunks

@lyxal Y'all are indistinguishable now

The pfp column on the left is a river of purply rainbows

MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS

uh hello?

mind your language please young man

(source)

hello there

um anyone know why Nêl cannot detect if a string is a palindrome in japt

Who can guess what my new pfp is?

@tjjfvi according to google image search, it's a dot

Looks like freddy from FNAF holding an exploding grenade

Nope to both

I swear that's freddy from FNAF in the background tho

Note that white is the foreground

This is a real image of <something>, stylized and cropped

CMC: insert a syntactically valid line of code where the XXXs are to change the return value of f:

def f():
    if False:
        XXX
    return "string"

+_+-=-=-=-+_+

Now f has no return value

Because there's a syntax error

that's cheating!

Does "line of code" imply no newlines?

yes

Does "syntactically valid line of code" mean "the line of code must be a syntactically valid statement" or "the program with the line of code inserted must be syntactically valid"

the latter

the_return_value_of_f = 5

@tjjfvi codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/q/1061 ​

It's a syntactically valid line of code whose purpose is to change the_return_value_of_f

Does "CMC" imply "not impossible"?

it is indeed possible

Are we to assume python?

yes

Which version?

else:return 1

@RedwolfPrograms no dedents allowed

dang

@tjjfvi my answer works in either 2 or 3, but let's say 3.10

@pxeger return f()

^H^H^H^Helse:return 1

spoiler

@AaroneousMiller Python won't accept backspaces I'm afraid

oof

@pxeger wait wut

@pxeger Can't see it due to wifi :(

@pxeger Doesn't work for me

@RedwolfPrograms you can also hover the link and it will appear as a tooltip

Hey you changed it

@tjjfvi I refer you to my earlier message: codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/1070

how about tio.run/##K6gsycjPM/7/…

and also why does Nêl not detect if the input is a palidrome in japt

answer

:(

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

:(

Can you put it in a gist or something plz

^

:(

:(

I forgot to run SQS on my server last night

:(

So no TIO/ATO at school

oh lol

i.sstatic.net/YfdoI.png (spoilers!)

neat

@tjjfvi Anyone? I'm pretty sure only 2-3 people have ever guessed it when I've asked them

You could be a fourth to a third of that statistic!

I know it's a bear or a dog or sth

@tjjfvi naruto

Nope

Well, it is something

But that doesn't count

Is it the American Idiot album cover?

No but I can see the resemblance

I've looked at it so long I can't see anything but what it is

I think the clue is gonna be the rays

assuming they even are rays

The rays are part of the original image

why does Nêl always return true in japt

The stylization was just the b&w

is it from a real-life photo?

Yes

Then stylized and cropped

is it a blobfish maybe?

Lol no

is it a disco ball?

one pieeece??

(i have no idea what one piece is)

Nope

Should I post what it is at this point?

@tjjfvi two more guesses

no I want to keep guessing!

It just has to be the bear from FNAF

It looks exactly like it

It is not

I think that's just your instinctive pareidolia kicking in

@tjjfvi plz one more guess

Go ahead

I recognize that bear/bat/dog's face, but I don't know from what

If you actually recognize it, it's because you've seen it in my pfp on other sites

I don't think it's actually a face

I took this picture with my phone

@RedwolfPrograms wat

WAT

@tjjfvi impossible => i'm possible

How do y'all do spoilers here?

Link to a gist maybe, or post a link with a tooltip

langidea: jelly but i change the tacit rules and add more

If there's one thing about Jelly that needs improvement, the tacit system is not it

@RedwolfPrograms you mean strings?

Tooltip test

Well, maybe. But most importantly, the built-in choices are not great.

@pxeger spoiler

cough cough °

@tjjfvi Like...from a human?

No

um i clicked on both tooltips.....................................

@RedwolfPrograms what does ° do?

@AlanBagel lol gotcha

Degrees to radians (or maybe the other way around)

(there is a real spoiler; just hover)

@RedwolfPrograms what if i entirely remove strings and heterogenous arrrays?

Jelly has no strings lol

It just has numbers representing char codes, which you can put in arrays

@RedwolfPrograms character vectors?

That moment when 2 bytes creates 2000 lines of errors

@AaroneousMiller That moment when 0 bytes creates 6e+900000000 lines of errors

wut

I made something cool if you're considering redesigning Jelly's operators

@AlanBagel C/C++/Java/Rust/many others

@RedwolfPrograms and what is that?

Hang on, I'm uploading it to google drive

This program generates this error. Apparently it falls into a loop and hits recursion depth, and most of the error is just the traceback.

atoms.mhtml, quicks.mhtml

These have how many times the operators have been used

In the tables

very cool info

It's a cat

0 bytes creates a error because are 4537853e+43828754 zero width non-byte-counting unicode charectors

@tjjfvi wututututut

I knew it was an animal's face

Take that @pxeger

damnit, I should've worked out they were whiskers

guys why does Nêl not detect if a string is a palindrome in Japt

Same :/

guys why does Nêl not detect if a string is a palindrome in Japt

is jelly optimised?

Full image

@RedwolfPrograms any chance of doing one for the Syntax page?

@tjjfvi was that your cat?

Yes

@pxeger The syntax page only has syntactical stuff like numbers and strings, which were filtered out of my corpus

@tjjfvi ooh

well tbh I was most importantly thinking of øµ)ðɓ

@RedwolfPrograms you should do a number only corpus

of all languages

I did one with JS

I'll upload it in a min

@tjjfvi at first i thought it was a tiger and i was like, no way you got that on your phone

I have a tiger on my phone

It's growling at me send help plz

@RedwolfPrograms ok calls 911

@AlanBagel I took a look at the docs for Japt, and as long as I understand you correctly, I think you're looking for UêU

@AaroneousMiller How does it work?

@AlanBagel U takes the first input, and then ê returns true if it is a palindrome, but only if given a string I think? But it looks like it is checking the U at the beginning, not the string that gets passed to it. For example, Uêl also works. The important part is that you use U to get the input, and you pass a string to ê.

Disclaimer: I don't know Japt; this is the first time I've even glanced at the docs. Any part of this could be completely wrong.

@AaroneousMiller Ok thanks

np

@AaroneousMiller np for np

Now, does anyone know what the guy in the back is called in my pfp?

No, but I'm naming him Jason

@RedwolfPrograms noooo you cant do that (his name is not jason)

Hint: Three words, first is The

The Jason

The Jay Son

The The Jason

@RedwolfPrograms leaves

Anyways, no

Bigger hint: Last word is one

The _ One

I'm using 110% of my willpower to not say "The Jason One"

@AlanBagel the chosen one

@PyGamer0 Ya did it

i used to watch the animations too ya know

super cool

prize: no prize

and because of it i got a wacom tablet 2 years ago

@AlanBagel ok cool