The Nineteenth Byte

Fmbalbuena

00:09

@cairdcoinheringaahing ok 2 people use me and @lyxal

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms no you're redwolf

user

No he's Redwolf Programs

Fmbalbuena

No He's Whitewolf Programs

@lyxal Can you explain me how to make 2d programming lang?

user

~~Uh-oh, looks like Github's down again~~ nvm I just deleted my own repo

Fmbalbuena

@user LOL

i checked github

and is up

lyxal

00:19

@Fmbalbuena basically you just need an instruction pointer to keep track of which command is being executed, ways to move that instruction pointer around and a way to manipulate data

Fmbalbuena

@lyxal is there red @RedwolfPrograms pfp?

lyxal

Fmbalbuena

Why black?

lyxal

It's transparent

Fmbalbuena

i know but

is there way to convert transparent (black) to white

lyxal

00:28

I don't know

Fmbalbuena

filling black to white

@lyxal Correct?

hyper-neutrino

that doesn't rhyme tho

Fmbalbuena

@hyper-neutrino ?

@hyper-neutrino what do you mean?

user

00:48

Red, lead, and bread rhyme with each other, but rust doesn't end in "ed"

Fmbalbuena

[Exeunt]

caird coinheringaahing

[pursued by a bear]

Fmbalbuena

@cairdcoinheringaahing Error at line 2: 'enter', 'exit' or 'exeunt' expected

Fmbalbuena

02:19

@NewPosts status

hyper-neutrino

02:36

only mods and ROs can do that, there's nothing wrong with the bot

if you notice a new post wasn't posted properly by the bots let someone know and they can check the status and ping redwolf if needed, or I can start the backup

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

02:49

why did y'all end up with an actual bot not just the default rss feed bot?

lyxal

Rss slow new bots instant

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

y'all really need new post feeds in under 15 minutes or so? lmao

lyxal

Yes

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Q: Should we replace The Nineteenth Byte's feeds?

The Nineteenth Byte, our main chat room, has some feeds. These post new challenges, meta questions, sandboxes posts, and some other assorted things. Unfortunately, they're kinda slow. New Main Posts and New Sandboxed Posts often take between ten and twenty minutes, and New Meta Posts can take up ...

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

wack

lyxal

Them do be the facts

user

02:56

@Rɪᴋᴇʀ We want it now

New posts is freakishly fast

hyper-neutrino

its speed is ungodly

i've deleted spam faster than smokey can even report them lol

3

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

wack

lyxal

it really do be like that sometimes

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

gonna make throwaway accts and resurrect avocad from the unholy depths to which it was sent just to see how fast ur spam deletion powers really are :)

hyper-neutrino

ಠ_ಠ

lyxal

03:09

that reminds me of the time I found an avocad in the juic isle

Aug 6 at 8:13, by exedraj

The poor soul must have tried for thirtee minut with no results. Very sad.

user

Is the orange stuff next to it avocad juice? Surprising color :p

@Rɪᴋᴇʀ Did you post the original advocad?

lyxal

@user bruh you really think someone managed to figure out how to produce that much avocad juic?

Redwolf Programs

@Fmbalbuena Rustwolf is actually a name I use on some sites :p

user

I saw someone write here that the person who posted it was probably a Tnber and not sn idiot

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

alex is long departed from this site unfortunately

user

03:12

@lyxal Simple, you figure out how to extract one molecule of juic from one avodad and then you buy a hundred avocads and juic them until you have enough

lyxal

@user that assumes you know how to juic avocad

user

@Rɪᴋᴇʀ The former mod?

@lyxal I know tge secret 😎

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

the guy who made the joke in the first place :p (yeah, alex a.)

user

Ah

Redwolf Programs

If anyone can juic avodcad (an NOT puray) i will pay $

lyxal

03:15

what kind of $?

Monopoly or KROMER?

Redwolf Programs

Buddy Bucks

user

Conversion to usd?

Redwolf Programs

One per purchase

But you can win cool prizes

user

Pass

Redwolf Programs

(It's a thing from a grocery store in Texas :p)

lyxal

03:19

@RedwolfPrograms okay spamton.

Razetime

03:44

@Fmbalbuena whatcha need help with

seems like i got ghost pinged

PyGamer0

05:13

@Razetime whats ghost pinged?

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05:38

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Q: Even sum subarrays

Given an array of integers, count the number of contiguous subarrays with an even sum. You may assume that the array is non-empty, and contains only non-negative integers. This is code-golf, so the shortest code in bytes wins. Test Cases Input -> Output [7] -> 0 [8] -> 1 [3, 5] -> 1 [6, 2] -> 3 [...

code-golf array integer subsequence

Rɪᴋᴇʀ

@PyGamer0 pinged and ping deleted or edited away after. leaves a notification but no clue to who/what pinged you often

Redwolf Programs

(Not to be confused with stealth pings, a now-removed glitch that allowed you to invisibly ping someone)

PyGamer0

06:08

@RedwolfPrograms ooh stealth pings sound cool

Redwolf Programs

They were not cool for people getting stealth pinged though, apparently

TNB policy was to kick-mute anyone who used them IIRC

Nov 29 '15 at 19:53, by Dennis

Stealth pings are henceforth forbidden in this chat room. Their use may result in a suspension.

PyGamer0

how would they work?

hyper-neutrino

[](http://@someone)

with a zwsp in it

Redwolf Programs

Chat wouldn't check if the @user part was in a link, so you could do [](https://@user) (where the [] has a zero width space or other invisible character)

PyGamer0

@RedwolfPrograms did you just ping user?

lyxal

06:16

Probably

Redwolf Programs

I don't think so, but if so it's their fault they have such a generic name :p

lyxal

*original and creative

PyGamer0

let me try @RedwolfPrograms does this ping you?,

Redwolf Programs

Yep

Sorry for the ping @user

PyGamer0

yeah @user

hyper-neutrino

06:19

there is a reason i did @someone ಠ_ಠ

Redwolf Programs

I need to make a userscript for quickly renaming and logging into my sock

lyxal

Pings in code blocks can make for fun times in Vyxal chat given that function definitions and calls are done with @

Aww man

Redwolf Programs

I had one of those exact same creepers as a kid

Not sure what happened to it

Lyxal, did you steal it?!

lyxal

Well I can confirm that after 9 years, it doesn't make its original noise any more

@RedwolfPrograms well did you ever attach it as a limb?

Redwolf Programs

No, my limbs use a proprietary connector

lyxal

06:23

Then no

If it'sn't a limb, it'sn't of interest of being stolen

CMQ: Give me a TNB conversation you want continued by gpt-3

Redwolf Programs

what the actual hell

Aug 3 at 23:25, 9 minutes total – 42 messages, 7 users, 12 stars

Bookmarked Aug 3 at 23:35 by lyxal

^ do this one

lyxal

oh boy

hang on just gotta do some formatting of the transcript

because that javascript thing you wrote no longer includes the usernames

Redwolf Programs

Oh huh, lemme debug it

lyxal

console.log([...document.querySelectorAll(".message")].map(c => c.parentNode.parentNode.querySelector(".signature img").title + ": " + c.textContent.trim()).join("\n"));

that's what it was

Redwolf Programs

Oh thanks! I was just about to ask lol, I couldn't find it anywhere

console.log([...document.querySelectorAll(".message")].map(c => c.parentNode.parentNode.querySelector(".signature a").title + ": " + c.textContent.trim()).join("\n"));

Seems to work for the most part

You'll need to remove the star counts manually

Hang on wait

console.log([...document.querySelectorAll(".message")].flatMap(c => [...c.querySelectorAll(".content")].map(g => c.parentNode.parentNode.querySelector(".signature a").title + ": " + g.textContent.trim())).join("\n"));

This works much better

The old one was meant for search results, not bookmarks, which explains why it was behaving so weird

lyxal

06:40

it's returning a weird mix between horribly cursed and completely unrelated normal text

Redwolf Programs

(so I can find this in the future) this is the javascript snippet for formatting bookmarks for GPT ^^^^

lyxal

Like for example:

Adám: > CMC is the set of all well-typed programs in APL that can be interpreted to return a single value.
Redwolf Programs: ?x←3y _________ {↑ ↓ ↑}+/\2×∊?(#) ∩+/\1×∊?(#) ∩+/\2×3y _________ {↑ ↓ ↑}+/-({←-})

@RedwolfPrograms I'll just pin it in the edge of propinquity

that's how I found it so quick

warning: cursed

Redwolf Programs

> Maybe we should call it "funky" instead of "kinky"?

lyxal

any other conversations?

Redwolf Programs

@RedwolfPrograms Hang on, the context of this is that Adam's planning to use APL to get rid of monads, as the Code Golfing Kinkster

(r/brandnewsentence)

lyxal

06:49

@RedwolfPrograms oh boy that makes pxeger's recent changes to the vyxal flask app sound really weird

Redwolf Programs

I thought of something today

We could make clocks that have hands that move backwards

And they'd work perfectly fine as clocks

11 o'clock could be to the right of 12 o'clock

And we'd all be fine with it

lyxal

that's just called using a mirror

and what even led to that thought?

were you that bored that you had to stare at a clock ?

Redwolf Programs

@lyxal Trying to unscrew something for a couple minutes straight then realizing how ambiguous "lefty loosy righty tighty" is

lyxal

seems pretty straight forward to me

left = loosen

right = tighten

Redwolf Programs

Yeah, what's turning left?

lyxal

06:52

rotate left

Redwolf Programs

From the top you go left, from the bottom you go right

You have to remember "lefty at the top loosy, righty at the top tighty"

hyper-neutrino

just picture a wheel rolling or smth lol

Redwolf Programs

Clockwise = tighten is so much easier

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms tf do you mean from the bottom?

Redwolf Programs

If you're unscrewing it from the bottom, it'll look more like turning the opposite direction

hyper-neutrino

06:54

PyGamer0

@RedwolfPrograms ^?

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms what tf are you unscrewing upside down?

Redwolf Programs

But anyway yeah, that whole getting-directions-backwards thing sort of muddled with the idea of clockwise in my head, and I came up with backwards clocks and hated myself for ten minutes straight

lyxal

only 10 minutes?

Redwolf Programs

@lyxal Doorknob

A doorknob, not the doorknob

lyxal

06:56

@RedwolfPrograms why tf were you unscrewing it from the bottom?

Redwolf Programs

The lock was in the way of using one of those L-shaped hex wrenches from the top

So I had to push the wrench to the opposite direction to the saying

hyper-neutrino

wait like

?

Redwolf Programs

No no no

Here, I'll draw a diagram

hyper-neutrino

yeah i don't get what you mean by top

or rather the direction of anything else; top is top but like

Redwolf Programs

I know the diagram looks more like eye surgery being performed on a mutant duck, but it's the best I could do on this laptop lol

hyper-neutrino

07:04

i think this reflects what you meant? :p

Redwolf Programs

Yep

hyper-neutrino

well ok but the whole "counterclockwise to unscrew" thing doesn't always work either because the thing might be on the opposite side as you, thus inverting the directions

there will always be a case where it doesn't quite fit the mnemonic as well

you just have to like

have spatial awareness

Redwolf Programs

But I don't like having to think D:

hyper-neutrino

valid

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino but then who tf even has spatial awareness these days?

hyper-neutrino

07:06

ok but how did you spend a couple of minutes trying to unscrew this

surely you'd realize after like 5 seconds that it's not getting looser?

Redwolf Programs

Counterclockwise is at least a bit more accurate than left-vs-right, because it works in more situations (still not all as you pointed out)

@hyper-neutrino It was extremely tight, both directions wouldn't budge without lots and lots of force

It had rusted a bit I think

hyper-neutrino

ah

can't say i've ever run into this issue before but like, understandable

Redwolf Programs

Well it was worth it, putting locks on doors which previously did not have locks by taking locks from doors which previosly had them never becomes less fun

emanresu A

This conversation is bizarre.

Redwolf goto sleep

Redwolf Programs

Oops it's way too late, yeah

emanresu A

07:13

@Rɪᴋᴇʀ Helps with spam handling

Redwolf Programs

I can't wreck my sleep schedule before AoC's even started...

hyper-neutrino

isn't this beneficial

or do you mean like

AoC will ruin your sleep schedule so you should try to keep it sane until then

Unrelated String

precisely

Redwolf Programs

Yep

hyper-neutrino

ah

Unrelated String

07:16

@lyxal uh

hyper-neutrino

i have not had a normal sleep schedule in years

6

Unrelated String

> theres a reason it's called jelly, you know!

emanresu A

Also bronze array

hyper-neutrino

maybe the day will come when i try to fix it

Redwolf Programs

Nice!

You might actually be the first to get a tag badge in array instead of array-manipulation

hyper-neutrino

07:17

the amount of time i sleep for isn't actually that bad like i went to sleep at like 5:15 yesterday but at least i got up at 11

Redwolf Programs

See y'all tomorrow o/

emanresu A

o/

hyper-neutrino

o/

Redwolf Programs

Hmm, wonder what o. would be as an emoticon

Person with stump remaining after an attempted limb theft gone horribly wrong?

One eyed variant of o.o?

Unrelated String

it's just o/ after putting its arm down

o/

emanresu A

07:22

@emanresuA Next is cops-and-robbers with 98/100

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms wasn't us

emanresu A

@RedwolfPrograms When did we change?

(Redwolf don't answer that, goto sleep)

Ok, I'm the second to get an array badge. This was the first

lyxal

07:40

I do like it when js turns my single quotes into double quotes

Very cool

Unrelated String

interesting that it tracks it like that when the tag rename itself notified array-manipulation badge-holders that they just got a shiny new array badge which is still my most recently earned badge

oh nvm it does work the way i thought

Razetime

08:16

interesting

@lyxal wut

lyxal

@Razetime hey don't blame me blame the people who had the original conversation

pajonk

Hi, looking for feedback on: codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/24100/55372

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08:34

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Q: Bubbler and 3 others are typing․․․

Task Implement a kind of "some users are typing" system, which can be found in Discord and some other chat clients. If 1 user (say, Bubbler) is typing, output Bubbler is typing... If 2 users (say, Bubbler and user) are typing, output Bubbler and user are typing... If 3 or more users are typing (...

code-golf string

emanresu A

@pajonk Looks good! I wouldn't ban bruteforcing, but your choice.

pajonk

08:56

@emanresuA Thanks for the input!

pxeger

09:21

> Hencequently

lol

lyxal

I do a little word creationing :p

Razetime

gollarious

emanresu A

09:44

bouyeetifffle

Milk

10:19

I think Scala is a great language

its so cool

PyGamer0

CMQ: Have you ever made a game using Unity?

lyxal

@PyGamer0 laughs in scratch games only

@Milk okay user

Fmbalbuena

10:51

4

@lyxal @RedwolfPrograms

@PyGamer0 Unity costs.

pxeger

11:15

why do we have a showcase tag when there's only one question and we don't want more?

lyxal

historical reasons probably

Fmbalbuena

@royal Hey ~~lyx~~ royal

lyxal

11:31

y'all ever just go to write something important like release notes for the rewrite you and others have been working on for 5 months only to not be able to do so because you can't find the right background music?

because right now that's me

Fmbalbuena

This is the secret Anguish code.

pxeger

lol

Fmbalbuena

just only one zero width space

Anush

hi all

Fmbalbuena

@Anush Hi

Anush

11:37

CMC for each a list of start and end times in the 24 hour clock, output the number of hours and minutes for each. E.g bpa.st/FX5Q

@Fmbalbuena hopefully a more doable challenge!

Fmbalbuena

@Anush what?

Anush

@Fmbalbuena what is unclear?

Fmbalbuena

@Anush ???

Anush

@Fmbalbuena is my CMC unclear?

Fmbalbuena

maybe

VTCBN

Anush

11:40

vote to close because N?

Fmbalbuena

no, VTCBN is Vote to close but not.

Anush

that is confusing :)

Neil

huh, random downvote for some reason

Fmbalbuena

@Neil random?

Anush

@Neil I hate that!

Fmbalbuena

11:43

what question?

Neil

alienese cycles

Fmbalbuena

@Anush hell\

o

Adám

@Anush Always the same day?

user

12:15

@RedwolfPrograms 😡

Adám

@Anush dzaima/APL, 7 bytes: -⍢(60⊥) Try it online!

lyxal

12:28

After 113 days of rewriting, we've finally released Vyxal 2.6.0

9

just thought I'd mention that here because it's something that quite a few people here have also worked on lol

Fmbalbuena

@lyxal 113 days?

lyxal

yes

113 days

Fmbalbuena

ok 113 years.

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger Historical reasons, like Lyxal said

pxeger

I mean why does that tag, which is only used once, exist at all?

caird coinheringaahing

12:38

Essentially, it's to separate the question into its own category

pxeger

oh ok

caird coinheringaahing

> [Making it a non-challenge question] should encompass unaccepting the answer with the highest vote count, removing the popularity-contest tag, and adding a dedicated showcase tag which makes clear that this will be the only question of its kind, at least without a preceding meta discussion.

Fmbalbuena

@cairdcoinheringaahing

caird coinheringaahing

@Fmbalbuena Yeah?

What's the point of the algorithm tag? I can't really see any obvious link between questions that are tagged with it, and the tag wiki extract is incredibly vague

Alan Bagel

@cairdcoinheringaahing I think so too.

Anush

13:16

@Adám yes!

Adám

@Anush OK, then my solution is right.

Anush

@Adám cool although you avoided the parsing

Adám

@Anush Ah, I see, I was to take a single list of start and end times?

Anush

@Adám yes. Exactly like in the link I gave

Adám

Ah, so it has to be like that, with spaces and colons?

Anush

13:31

Yes

@Adám yes

Adám

I'd discourage mixing a parsing problem with a computation problem.

Anush

But it's so simple!

pxeger

particularly when neither are particularly interesting

Anush

Cruel

neither is :)

Adám

@Anush Does that mean we have to return h:mms too?

Anush

13:39

@Adám no that would be too much

Adám

OK, then a whopping 34 bytes in dzaima/APL: ' '(-⍢(60⊥)⍨⍥⍎/=' '@(':'=)¨⍤⊂,)¨ Try it online!

The parsing would probably be easier in Dyalog, but the computation more involved.

@Anush Alternative approach in dzaima/APL, 35: 60⊤¨⍬2-⍨/⍤⍴60⊥⍬2⍉⍤⍴1⍎⍤↓¨∊∘" :\n"⊂0, Try it online!

pxeger

damn, GitHub codespaces are fast

Fmbalbuena

14:29

@cairdcoinheringaahing I forgot

Fmbalbuena

14:47

@cairdcoinheringaahing Hey i have a question

caird coinheringaahing

@Fmbalbuena If you've got a question for me, just ask it

No need to let me know that you have a question

user

dontasktoask.com

Fmbalbuena

@user No, neutrino gave me nohello.net

@cairdcoinheringaahing Is this TC?

what the actual hell

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