The Nineteenth Byte

hyper-neutrino

6:00 PM

whereas charcoal the language only shows up as the 56th result lol

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino that looks like some kinky RP shit

DLosc

@hyper-neutrino Adding "language" to the search helps tremendously

Fmbalbuena

@DLosc do you make new lang?

DLosc

Though for Pip, I had to add "golfing language" because of all the Python results :P

hyper-neutrino

@pxeger I didn't read it through carefully, so thank you very much for ruining my day /s

DLosc

6:02 PM

@Fmbalbuena Always :)

hyper-neutrino

@DLosc well, yeah lol

emanresu A

6:38 PM

@RedwolfPrograms I do

thejonymyster

thank u all for the lang name help

DLosc

@NewPosts Oddly enough, this type of question might actually be on-topic at StackOverflow--but only if you actually wanted to know the answer, not if you were posing a challenge where you already knew the answer.

New Posts

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Q: Fixation of Error 1712 when installing QuickBooks for Desktop

QuickBooks users often face certain errors, which includes the QuickBooks error code 1712. This error is usually seen when the operating system is damaged or due to some system file corruption of windows or corrupt and damaged Microsoft components used by QuickBooks. Or you can also contact our Q...

code-challenge

emanresu A

@DLosc Vyxal's SE builtin is "eval as python"

@NewPosts Not again...

user

@NewPosts How to VTD? Could a high rep user please VTD?

emanresu A

6:45 PM

You can't, flag as spam

user

Aww, I wanted to make it nice and pink

emanresu A

in CGCC Mod Office, 2 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in body, shortened url in body (0): Fixation of Error 1712 when installing QuickBooks for Desktop by johnmathews22 on codegolf.SE

@user Spam's better than deletion, and you can't VTD a newly posted questioon until you get 20k rep, I think

user

Ah

DLosc

@emanresuA I can't VTD it, just VTC

emanresu A

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A: How do we handle spam posts?

Flag, don't vote to delete If three people vote to delete it before six spam flags get through, then the post will have to be undeleted before it can continue to be flagged. If six flags get through, that post is deleted and locked by Community (and gets its content shoved into the revision hist...

@DLosc Hm, just answers then :P

DLosc

6:50 PM

@emanresuA Ah, thanks for re-posting that. I remembered reading it a while back but couldn't remember the exact instructions.

emanresu A

Ok, it got yeeted.

DLosc

Hi-fives all round

Adám

Anyone remember which country has a website consisting only of the tld?

(That'd be extreme domain golfing, and on-topic, right?)

user

Being on topic has never been a problem in TNB :P

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emanresu A

ಠ_ಠ

DLosc

6:53 PM

But also yes, it's on topic in TNB (and no, I don't know of one)

Aaroneous Miller

@lyxal Am I insane for wanting to implement strict Minefriff in vanilla Minecraft?

FrownyFrog

ai.

Adám

Thanks!

DLosc

@PyGamer0 I prefer to separate them into language-specific and non-language-specific. Language-specific: QBasic, Flash MX (ActionScript), IDLE (Python), QB64 (QBasic, ish). Generic: Vim, Eclipse, Notepad++, and recently IntelliJ. At the moment, I use IDLE for Python, IntelliJ for Scala, QB64 for QBasic, and Notepad++ for everything else, unless I'm on Linux, in which case I use Vim for everything.

At work, we use a proprietary language that compiles into Java and JSP. It has an IDE that's really buggy, so I usually just use Notepad++ instead.

emanresu A

7:15 PM

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user

> proprietary language

Is it a cool one or just a boring DSL?

DLosc

Kind of in between? It's got an interesting memory model that I'd never encountered before but makes a lot of sense once you wrap your head around it. The language itself is a bit feature-poor, but I'm used to working with esolangs so that's not too big of a problem. ;)

user

Are you free to share the interesting memory model, if you don't mind?

DLosc

I think so (hah, maybe I should check first)--I'm just trying to figure out the best way of explaining it.

Okay, official permission granted :)

So the memory model is based around relational databases. Let's say you've got a Person table and an Address table with a one:many relationship (one person can have multiple addresses).

Each table represents an Entity, and you can set up an Object that contains multiple related Entities. Let's say we have an Object called mPerson that contains Person and Address.

When we load mPerson from the database, each Entity in the loaded Object has a cursor. So for example, if we've loaded multiple Persons, we can step through them using the mPerson.Person cursor. Each Person might have multiple Addresses, and so the Address for each Person also has a cursor (mPerson.Address).

You can loop the cursor over all of its results, set it to a specific one, etc.

user

7:37 PM

Wait, are cursors like pointers here?

Oh, this is interesting. I think I need some time to digest this :P

DLosc

You could think of them as pointers, or it might be easier to think of them as indices.

user

Ah, that makes a little more sense

Would it be correct to think of them as ordered maps/hashtables?

DLosc

@user I think I'd say more like lists/arrays of maps (except you never refer to the list index explicitly).

user

Oh, like a circular linked list?

DLosc

Not circular, but yes, it's a bit like working with a linked list. A common idiom is SET CURSOR FIRST/SET CURSOR LAST

The fun part is that you can also specify conditions, for example:

SET CURSOR FIRST mPerson.Person
   WHERE mPerson.Person.Age < 30

user

7:45 PM

Sounds pretty cool (although I wouldn't want to work with it :P)

DLosc

You can also base conditions on child Entities:

SET CURSOR FIRST mPerson.Person
   WHERE mPerson.Address.StateProvince = "California"

Which IIRC will give you the first person who has an address in California, even if they also have addresses in other states

thejonymyster

@FrownyFrog this link doesnt work for me?

FrownyFrog

probably works best in firefox

Mayube

Just realised why spacevim's been weirdly inconsistent on WSL vs in my deb VM: WSL still had regular vim, so it wasn't running on neovim :|

FrownyFrog

8:00 PM

@thejonymyster actually no idea what's the issue, what happens instead?

DLosc

@user status-completed

user

👍

DLosc

8:50 PM

CMC: Given a string, chop it into a list of Fibonacci-sized pieces. For example, "Hello, world!" -> ["H", "e", "ll", "o, ", "world", "!"] (pieces have sizes 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, and there aren't enough characters left to make 8 so the final piece contains all the remaining characters).

Fmbalbuena

@DLosc Hey, I've made a meme.

DLosc

No need to ping me, then, just post it ;)

@DLosc Reference implementation

lol

uhhh the recent meme

8:57 PM

2 mins ago, by Aaroneous Miller

lol

Generally, asking for stars makes people less willing to give you stars. It's better to just keep being funny, insightful, etc. The stars will come if they come.

Alan Bagel

@DLosc Kind of new in chat, so what does CMC stand for?

DLosc

@AlanBagel Chat Mini Challenge

Fmbalbuena

@AlanBagel are you new?

Alan Bagel

@Dlosc Oh ok.

DLosc

Usually a code golf challenge that's relatively small/easy, maybe too trivial to post on the main site

Alan Bagel

9:02 PM

@DLosc Got it.

Fmbalbuena

CMC: generate a prime number bigger than Tree(3)

user

What's Tree here?

Is it some prime generating function?

Fmbalbuena

Tree in Wikipedia

Alan Bagel

@Fmbalbuena That would be (much?) higher then 2**64, So we would prob need a language like python

@Fmbalbuena Or is Tree(3) prime?

Fmbalbuena

Tree(3) is big number

DLosc

9:07 PM

@Fmbalbuena VTC as unclear. Do you mean tree(3) or TREE(3)?

Fmbalbuena

@DLosc pretend Tree(x) is TREE(x)

DLosc

@Fmbalbuena Right, then my answer is no :P

Alan Bagel

Um how to calculate TREE(x)

Fmbalbuena

@AlanBagel this video may help you.

Jo King

wouldn't this be a chat mega challenge?

Fmbalbuena

9:13 PM

@JoKing this is chat mega challenge.

thejonymyster

@FrownyFrog woah, it works on my home computer but not my work computer

at work it just was acting like i typed a broken link or whtaever

Adám

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A: What are our specific abbreviations and terms?

See also Stack Exchange Glossary - Dictionary of Commonly-Used Terms. Abbreviations marked with a star (*) are chat specific. Catalog: A type of simple on-topic challenge where the challenge's aim not so much to find a winner as it is to create a catalog of solutions in many languages. CG: Code G...

Alan Bagel

@Adám Thanks.

Fmbalbuena

9:44 PM

@AlanBagel why not making program?

Alan Bagel

@Fmbalbuena The fibonacci split one or the tree one?

Fmbalbuena

Kruskal's tree theorem

In mathematics, Kruskal's tree theorem states that the set of finite trees over a well-quasi-ordered set of labels is itself well-quasi-ordered under homeomorphic embedding. The theorem was conjectured by Andrew Vázsonyi and proved by Joseph Kruskal (1960); a short proof was given by Crispin Nash-Williams (1963). It has since become a prominent example in reverse mathematics as a statement that cannot be proved within ATR0 (a form of arithmetical transfinite recursion), and a finitary application of the theorem gives the existence of the fast-growing TREE function. In 2004, the result was...

lyxal

@AaroneousMiller that assumes you can get it to work at all first :p

@PyGamer0 IDLE to Sublime Text 2 to Atom to VSCode

user

Why Sublime 2 when 3? (and 4 is out now)

lyxal

10:02 PM

Because school made 2 available

This was in 2018 btw

I switched to atom for 2019 and 2020

I finally went to VS code this year

Fmbalbuena

Oh no, github copilot

lyxal

It do be like that tho

Fmbalbuena

i typed def encode(string): and he does this.

thats funny

lyxal

Nov 3 at 9:16, by lyxal

That reminds me of when I've used codex to try and write functions and it just says #TODO: implement

Fmbalbuena

@lyxal but this is more funnier

Alan Bagel

10:06 PM

@lyxal TODO: Make this code work

lyxal

@AlanBagel okay codex

Fmbalbuena

@lyxal this is not actually Caesar cipher

lyxal

@Fmbalbuena of course

Fmbalbuena

@lyxal do you like this?

lyxal

@Fmbalbuena I wonder which repo on github has that docstring and comment

here's the time it tried to write a brainfrick interpreter

and here's its attempt at writing a befunge93 interpreter

Aaroneous Miller

10:11 PM

> import getch
getch = _Getch()

user

> # There's probably a better way to do this, but this'll work for now.

No, no it won't

lyxal

Instead of writing the interpreter, it just procrastinates by writing a whole bunch of type conversion stuff

user

10:57 PM

Alan Bagel

@user I guess your a admin?

Sandbox Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

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