The Nineteenth Byte

Seggan

12:08 AM

So i have a list of numbers in jelly. how would i convert it to a string?

lyxal

12:19 AM

do you mean turn it into a single number?

Ṿ€ seems to work

Try it online!

caird coinheringaahing

@Bubbler Yep, take a look at the sci-fi.SE rooms

@lyxal 0/""

Wezl programs redwolf

CMC: have a five-minute discussion on pumpkin seeds as food, winner gets 50rep bounty. Starting: now

lyxal

@Seggan actually, V works better

Try it online!

ngn

12:37 AM

does anybody here have experience with adding a language to code.golf?

Bubbler

Maybe you can ask directly to code.golf discord or open an issue on the official github repo

Seggan

@lyxal no as in [83, 115] = "Ss"

lyxal

@Seggan then I'd suggest you take a look at the monadic atoms list

Bubbler

@Seggan It's Ọ (chr; cast as character)

lyxal

Or that

Seggan

12:51 AM

yeah, just figured it out myself "Ọ€"

lyxal

No need for the €

Bubbler

All functions that act to a single number auto-map or "vectorize" to entire array

Seggan

ah, ty. useful

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Wezl programs redwolf

1:22 AM

@Wezlprogramsredwolf *disappointed*

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1:40 AM

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Q: Fibonacci-like gap formula

Background The recurrence of the Fibonacci sequence is defined as $$ f(n+2) = f(n+1) + f(n) $$ From this recurrence alone, the following gap formulae (recurrences relating three terms with certain amount of gaps) can be derived: $$ f(n+4) = 3f(n+2) - f(n) \\ f(n+6) = 4f(n+3) + f(n) \\ f(n+8) = 7f...

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Loading Circle Animation code-golf ascii-art kolmogorov-complexity animation Challenge Write a full program that takes no input (or has an unused input) that displays exactly the following ASCII animation infinitely (or for as long as possible) in STDOUT. Frame 1: # # # # ## Frame 2: ## # # ...

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4:49 AM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Checkered grid with X mark code-golf matrix Challenge Given two integer values \$a \ge 2\$ and \$0 \le b < a\$, generate a \$(2a-1) \times (2a-1)\$ matrix consisting of the integers 0, 1, and 2 as follows: Create a checkerboard of 0s and 1s of the given size, the 0 being at the corner. If \$b > ...

PyGamer0

@Bubbler is this a valid answer for your Fibonacci-like gap formula question?

Bubbler

5:05 AM

@PyGamer0 Yes

PyGamer0

@Bubbler oh i was confused about the floating point error 7.00000000001 thing

Bubbler

FP error is generally acceptable

PyGamer0

ok

pxeger

6:43 AM

@hyper-neutrino you seem to have misspelt "Zsh is currently the second-top voted language for November's LotM - make sure to place your votes in time for next month to make sure it wins"

hyper-neutrino

well we now have a three-way tie

pxeger

but Add++ is the earliest, and Zsh is the second-earliest

Bubbler

I feel the need for more LotM nominations (there are like 20 languages on Codewars and 10 on code.golf that are barely used on CGCC and haven't yet been an LotM already)

pxeger

I'm gonna nominate Ruby

I like Ruby

Bubbler

but I don't feel like I'm the right one to write for any of them, mainly because I haven't tried seriously learning those

I could write some for Martin Ender's langs actually

Razetime

6:46 AM

labyrinth?

Bubbler

Labyrinth, Hexagony, Alice, Wumpus, Stack Cats

Maybe not Retina

Razetime

hexagony looks good tbh

there's an amazing editor for it

Bubbler

I have used four of them before

and yeah, hexagony IDE is crazy

Razetime

@pxeger ruby is too highly used afaik

pxeger

not many people use it regularly on this site

Razetime

6:50 AM

me, dingus, level river st i think?

i've been lacking in answers lately :/

lyxal

@pxeger you seem to have misspelled "Zsh is currently the top voted language for November's LotM - make sure to place your votes in time for next month to make sure it wins"

pxeger

lol you didn't have to do that

Bubbler

Honestly "there are fewer than 10 PPCG users who regularly golf in this language" should be somewhat adjusted. Practically every lang meets this (we don't even have 10 regular users of Jelly or 05AB1E)

pxeger

oh 2 upvotes

I wasn't expecting for Zsh to end up as LotM so I need to prepare now lol

Razetime

there are 3 days left so let's not "curb your enthusiasm" ourselves

lyxal

6:54 AM

@pxeger yes I did. I had to make the obvious joke

Razetime

@Bubbler even in the heyday this may not have been accurate

lyxal

It's probably to avoid having langs like python or js as lotm

Razetime

hm fair

@RedwolfProgrammed do you have a script to hide deleted answers

Bubbler

Suggested rule of thumb: "you seriously like the lang, you have seriously used it several times on CGCC, and you seriously think it is underused"

^ Written based on previous successes and failures

Razetime

@Bubbler Noted. Time to add mom please get me so me zucchini from sho p

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Unrelated String

7:05 AM

> Note that this is not yet available because the author cannot download Git yet because of internet issues.

phenomenal

PyGamer0

7:18 AM

@Bubbler desmos?

or has it been already done?

Bubbler

There's already a proposal for desmos

Razetime

i like desmos, hope it turns up soon

PyGamer0

7:36 AM

@Razetime yes i joined reddit just for r/desmos :P

CMP: pygame or pyglet?

lyxal

pygame

emanresu A

^

PyGamer0

pyglet

much easier

lyxal

@PyGamer0 reddit username?

Bubbler

@PyGamer0 What do you want to do with either of them?

PyGamer0

7:45 AM

@lyxal hint: same name

@Bubbler make games / simulations

Bubbler

Then arguably pygame

PyGamer0

@Bubbler and opengl dont forget opengl

Bubbler

because it makes easier to handle everything you'll need in making a game (graphics, sound, mouse/keyboard,...)

PyGamer0

@Bubbler i think pyglet is way easier for me

Bubbler

Then you have your choice :shrug:

lyxal

8:02 AM

@PyGamer0 then your account must be too new to find

emanresu A

Is that a thing?

lyxal

@emanresuA searching for pygamer0 on reddit doesn't come up with anything

PyGamer0

8:28 AM

@lyxal here

emanresu A

8:44 AM

CMQ: Do you trust Lyxal to never give you up, let you down, make you cry or hurt you?

emanresu A

9:21 AM

@user Does codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/37363/100664 make you happy?

pxeger

Scala 9146? I thought they were still on Scala 3!

emanresu A

That's almost as funny as 'You're not joking, you're pxeger'.

pxeger

Hi "almost as funny as 'You're not joking, you're pxeger'.", I'm Dad!

emanresu A

I said 'That's', not 'I'm'.

user

@emanresuA Yes :p

emanresu A

9:57 AM

o/

(got my arms back, although 'm mssng a fnger)

Anush

10:40 AM

@Bubbler thank you for the max heap tip!

lyxal

11:38 AM

Ngl github copilot is more passive agressive then I thought it'd be

I was trying to get it to complete a for loop, and it just suggested the start of a comment

like this:

for var in whatever:
    #

very helpful

so I wrote

for var in whatever:
    # yes thank you for suggesting a comment start very cool

or something like that I don't remember exactly what

anyhow, it eventually got to the point where it suggested going to stackoverflow.com/questions/1265665/…

but there's just one problem with that

just one tiny little problem

pxeger

that question is not about converting to binary lol

lyxal

yeah exactly

so I wrote a comment saying "that's not even the right title idiot"

and it spammed that one link like 10 or 15 times

and that's my experience with the passive-aggressiveness of github copilot

Aaroneous Miller

12:22 PM

CMQ: Best command to use for division if you're and idiot an accidentally used / for two different commands and managed to spend days implementing and testing without noticing it until the entire thing was done?

lyxal

codepage restrictions?

because if there's none, the obvious answer is ÷

Aaroneous Miller

ascii-only

lyxal

what's already been used?

Aaroneous Miller

\/ <> () +-* [] ~ {} ! ^

lyxal

,?

Aaroneous Miller

12:24 PM

i like that one

fortunately, changing that in the implementation is as simple as changing a single / to ,

lyxal

that totally isn't what ><> uses and that totally wasn't subliminal inspiration for my suggestion

Aaroneous Miller

of course not

lyxal

because that would just be preposterous.

Aaroneous Miller

I could never even imagine something like that being the case

Adám

@AaroneousMiller % as in K and J (real-world production languages).

Aaroneous Miller

12:28 PM

And with that, my language is (hopefully) done! I'm just going to finish writing a truth-machine and then I'll show it off.

@Adám I feel like I'd get that confused with mod

Do you have mod?

no

There's also |

After trying them all out, I think I like , the best, so I'm going to go with that

lyxal

@AaroneousMiller gee golly you take a while to write a truth machine

it's been 10 minutes now

Aaroneous Miller

12:38 PM

shut up

lyxal

it can't take that long

hurry up and write it so I can upvote it and go sleep

Aaroneous Miller

i think its just about done, i just have to get the infinite loop going

lyxal

then it isn't just about done is it. it's only 50% done

the infinite loop is like half the fricking challenge

50% != almost aaron.

smh

Aaroneous Miller

but it's about 5-10% of the program

lyxal

that doesn't matter aaron it's 50% of the challenge which is more weighting than your "5-10%"

Aaroneous Miller

12:43 PM

i suppose so

lyxal

did you not learn how percentages work at code golf school?

Aaroneous Miller

naw, college is wack

lyxal

ah ofc ofc

to summarise: challenge weighting is more than program weighting

Aaroneous Miller

[+^-/>]!*/*/>[+^>][+-/<]-/<[{*+}/]

lyxal

how tf I'mma upvote that

Aaroneous Miller

12:45 PM

imma post it, gimme a sec

lyxal

okay good

I still have a single slither of clarity left

Aaroneous Miller

it took me about 5 minutes to realize that all i needed to do to make the infinite loop work is swap the *+ at the end

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A: Implement a Truth-Machine

Hello Hell, 34 bytes [+^-/>]!*/*/>[+^>][+-/<]-/<[{*+}/] Lyxal was being an impatient little goober, so I'm posting this before I finish the documentation for my new language. You'll get an explanation and everything in a little bit, ok?