The Nineteenth Byte

lyxal

12:51 AM

@hyper-neutrino idk that's just what people here suggested when I asked for useful behaviour for string multiplication

user

1:04 AM

Gotta love it when chat's formatting is so bad you can break it with a timeout message with a newline at the end

in Resistance against caird's tyranny, 37 secs ago, by user

*This room was placed in timeout for 11 hours 41 minutes; Nice
*

lyxal

Thank you google

Very cool

/s

Wansen

vert sys

Very sus

what's the link i wanna give them a fake credit card LOL

lyxal

I lost the link

But you can get it from just using YouTube to MP3 sites

Wansen

ouch

Rights
1. right to rickroll
2. right to leave this room
5. right to use CAPITAL LETTERS
19. right to talk about the twin prime conjecture
420. right to add rights
1000. right to talk about random things

ported from (the weirdest room ever)[chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/126828/…

Browncat Programs

When I was in 5th grade I went to some random site and it said I won $1000. Like anyone smart, I knew it was fake. But there was a "comments" section, and one of them said "I thought it was fake but it wasn't!" and idiot me figured that was enough proof it was actually real.

Wansen

1:11 AM

because I don't understand why the room but ok

@BrowncatPrograms rip

Browncat Programs

Also I like how the number they picked is so ridiculously low

9.68B searches is nothing

I'd guess at least two billion people have used Google, and I'm sure most of them use it at least once a month

I wouldn't be surprised if there were hundreds of billions or even trillions of searches

It's 2 trillion per year lol

Just...googled it

Ironic

Wansen

LOL

btw

-1 is community

-2 is feeds

What's -3? (I'm talking about users)

and why is the sandbox owned by "sandbox" and not "community"

(still talking about users...)

Browncat Programs

@Wansen Because it's not an official SE thing

Wansen

um

Okay?

Then what's -3 (user)?

Browncat Programs

We can't just make Community do whatever we want :p

Wansen

1:17 AM

who's -3?

Browncat Programs

On what site?

Community is -1 on main sites, but not on chat. Feeds is -2 on chat, but not on main sites.

All the other negative numbers on chat are custom feeds.

E.g., our old New Main Posts feed was -363

There is no -3 it seems

-4 is Dice Service, which has never posted a message it seems

Followed by two feeds still in use both called The Oracle, presumably for RPG.SE

And so on for other sites

lyxal

T&C Generation site: Here's your T&Cs. If you want to add it to your site, copy the following HTML. Note that you'll be unable to remove our company's branding
Me: *removes the `div` containing the company's branding*

they also decided it'd be a good idea to disable the context menu on their site

so naturally, I went and got a browser extension that allows right clicking

also, TIL GPT-3 likes pinging people with random unicode

like it managed to generate Ƭ̷̵̷͇̿ Ե͇̑̿̿Ƭ̷̵̷͇̿̿ Ե͇̑̿̿ Ƭ for a message I sent on discord

Wansen

1:42 AM

okay

um

btw

can you review my (sandbox thingy)[codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/23868/95204]? i'm getting ready to post it, want any feedback, thx - wd

with fixed - btw can you review my [sandbox thingy[(codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/23868/95204)? i'm getting ready to post it, want any feedback, thx - wd

umm

can you review it?

/roll 3

/roll

hyper-neutrino

1. you don't need to send individual words one by one
2. you can edit messages
3. it's [link text](url)
4. there are no commands here

Wansen

oh oops sorry xd

lyxal

@Wansen The idea of the added characters doesn't seem like a good idea

Wansen

Okay I'll remove them

lyxal

I'd recommend just keeping it to the site defined characters

other than that, I think it looks good

Wansen

1:45 AM

done

still the length problem - see the bottom of the post

the link again

yay my link actually worked yayyyyy

lyxal

Protip: don't restrict input to a string

let it be a list of [character, rounds] or the other way around

@Wansen so basically you're just outputting the pattern associated with the hat?

Wansen

um

no

you output how YOU would respond

for maxinum coin retention

or maximum (I can't spell oof)

:59179859

@lyxal

lyxal

ah I see now

Wansen

From the post: "return/output a list of truthy (Cooperate) and falsey (Cheat) values that will give you the maximum possible amounts of coins"

Also from post: "A quick summary of what it says on the site: there is a machine. If you put in one coin, your opponent gets three coins. You can either Cooperate (put in coin) or Cheat (don't put in coin).

"

Anything else? @everyone @all @howdoIaskeveryoneelse

lyxal

I think the post is pretty much good to go.

Wansen

1:52 AM

Okay, so I just post it (minus the sandbox things, of course)?

Browncat Programs

@Wansen There is no @everyone here :p

Wansen

*swallows* swallows 2! THE SEQUEL

Oh bruh @BrowncatPrograms

oof

Browncat Programs

@BrowncatPrograms That'd be a really bad idea :p

Wansen

true, that makes sense, @ e v e r y o n e is terrible in discord

works wonders (sarcasm intended)

Okay, so I just post it (minus the sandbox things, of course)?

rak1507

I would wait another few days maybe in case other people have feedback

Wansen

1:55 AM

It's been a week

rak1507

maybe tomorrow then so europeans can wake up?

Wansen

I think that applies to the quote "several days" - Sandbox question post

seven-al days to be exact

rak1507

fair enough ig, I'd still wait maybe a day just so anyone asleep atm has the chance to give feedback too, it'll just prevent that from happening when you post the challenge

Wansen

um i've left in on for 7 days

8 days?!?!?!??!

like

idk

?

lyxal

@BrowncatPrograms well done you managed to outgolf AI by 262 bytes (your answer v codex's answer)

challenge

nope nevermind the gap is only 16 bytes now

it managed to golf it down to input.charAt(0).match(/[aeiouAEIOU]/) ? 'an' : 'a';

@cairdcoinheringaahing here's how AI tried to solve your Decompress an Integer Jelly Style challenge

user

2:51 AM

@lyxal 😮 ai can golf?!

@BrowncatPrograms Well my sock used to be named Literally everyone, I could ren it

lyxal

@user ai can golf.

With a few well written prompts of course

user

3:17 AM

Nic

🤖

DLosc

3:59 AM

Ugh, plugged in my new $80 headset tonight and can't get my computer to recognize the microphone

smh

user

@DLosc It’s new, of course it doesn’t recognize it

Give them some time to get to know each other

Try an icebreaker

Browncat Programs

Microphones are very painful sometimes

DLosc

@user I'll leave them alone together tonight and see what happens

Browncat Programs

Haven't tried with Windows, but I know I've had all sorts of problems on both linux and chrome os

user

@BrowncatPrograms I knew a guy named Mike

Bit of a loner, never connected with anyone

Never paired up when the tracher told us to work in groups of two

Always listening, though, kinda creepy honestly

@DLosc some mikes are just kinda antisocial 🦐

🤷

CMQ: What are some entertaining websites?

hyper-neutrino

4:17 AM

there's a cool one called codegolf.stackexchange.com, not sure if you've heard of it

user

Nah it’s full of losers

No one there can code properly

@hyper-neutrino Also you should be sleeping coz it’s 12:23 for you

hyper-neutrino

@user first of all when do I ever sleep that early

second of all i'm doing hackthenorth right now so i'm not going to sleep that soon anyway

user

@hyper-neutrino how do you expect me to know? why don’t you know when you sleep that early?

@hyper-neutrino i can get behind hacking cabada :p

hyper-neutrino

@user that took me like three tries to read

user

@hyper-neutrino obviously this means that you should be sleeping and it doesn’t mean that i am groggy

hyper-neutrino

4:28 AM

you are literally in the same timezone as me right

go to sleep fool :p

user

Um i just teleported to brazil so it’s all good

But i shall now take a power nap but not because I’m sleepy toodles

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@user youtube.com

lyxal

y'all with your "night time" timezones

while I'm just over here chilling in the afternoon

pVC aecidiospore adduced

4:49 AM

and i am chilling here in the morning

um i just realised something

tio.run/#c-gcc

^ after the # is spells CGCC

also what is the font family of the textareas in tio?

pVC aecidiospore adduced

5:19 AM

@lyxal i think i made a simple linked list in C-GCC

lyxal

5:31 AM

That took me a moment to actually realise you weren't using c++

pVC aecidiospore adduced

i literally said C-GCC

lyxal

And I still read it as c++

Neil

5:59 AM

@lyxal browser extension? On Firefox it's just a pref in about:config

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced inspect element is your friend

lyxal

6:28 AM

@Neil I use Vivaldi

caird coinheringaahing

6:39 AM

@lyxal Does it work?

lyxal

7:06 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing I don't think so

AviFS

@cairdcoinheringaahing Error: Your RO badge has been redacted.

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@Neil on Android?

lyxal

7:22 AM

@AviFS thank you! Someone gets it!

Rickrolling is eternal

pVC aecidiospore adduced

7:34 AM

Feedback?

lyxal

7:48 AM

@emanresuA just use an ad blocker idot.

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@lyxal idot?

lyxal

google it idot.

pVC aecidiospore adduced

8:07 AM

> Illinois Department of Transportation

@lyxal makes sense ^

lyxal

8:20 AM

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced wrong definition of idot, idot.

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Idot

pVC aecidiospore adduced

oh Skeppy made that

IDOT

Neil

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New Posts

9:07 AM

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Q: Calculate the sum of the differences between min and max weights of all possible shipments

Given an array of package weights, where weights[i] represents weight of package i, find sum of the differences between min and max weights of all possible contiguous shipments. Example 1, weights = [1,2,3] Below are the contiguous shipments possible for these three packages: 1 (Only first packa...

code-challenge

pxeger

9:28 AM

Announcing: Whython! A fork of Python with terrible features hacked in. Try it here!

emanresu A

What have you done...

pxeger

I added ?, the exception handling operator

Unrelated String

yes

pxeger

or, well, exception mishandling

I've tried it out, and I can tell you it produces some cool golfs

emanresu A

Such as?

pxeger

9:37 AM

of course now you ask that I can't find a good example

emanresu A

I've discovered a critical flaw in ATO: People can execute arbitrary code!

pxeger

Sandbox Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Nth digit of n Your challenge is to take a positive floating-point number \$n\$, and index it into its own digits. If \$n\$ is a positive integer, you should return the nth digit of its own decimal expansion. This means as a string, excluding the dot, so the 3rd digit (0-indexed) of \$137.692\$ i...

emanresu A

9:54 AM

@emanresuA @pxeger I've discovered the same flaw in TIO, Bubbler's thing, and from what I can tell, RTO as well.

emanresu A

10:22 AM

'night

Wansen

Night

@Non-sleeping-people-that-live-in-not-china can you review my post? I asked a lot, and I want a final review before I check tomorrow. G’night @all-sleeping-people-that-live-in-china-or-australia and sleep tight! WD

Am I ready to post it (minus the sandbox things)?

@SandboxPosts @SandboxPosts @emanresuA I don’t really understand that post - what do you mean the 1.68th digit of 1.68? A little confusing… idea seems great :D

G;night, @all-sleeping-people-that-live-in-china-or-australia - don’’t let the bugs bite! LOL 0- - WD

@pxeger kinda sus ngl what’s exception **mis**handling? \*sus sus, very sus\*

# sus

# sus

sus

*hello?*

Razetime

10:54 AM

hi wansen

pVC aecidiospore adduced

wansen =? wasif?

pxeger

C confirmed based??

Wansen

I prefer “WD” not “Wansen”, but hi, could you review my sandbox post please? - WD

Eh

Is my sandbox question ready to be posted?

AncientSwordRage

11:25 AM

Is there a good template for King of the Hill questions?

(yes I know I haven't finished/posted my current sandbox question 😜.... Brain space has not been available for that)

Adám

@Wansen You might want to change your username to "WD" if you want to be addressed as as that.

caird coinheringaahing

11:46 AM

@Wansen Looks good. Also, you don't need to ask or link it that many times, people aren't always able to review Sandbox posts

WW has 69969 rep :P

Wheat Wizard

I do.

Sandbox Posts

12:19 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Triple Countdown Let's start with the natural numbers [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84...

Wheat Wizard

@SandboxPosts That's a very useful preview you got there.

user

12:56 PM

@SandboxPosts Do you need to give the first 100 nats at the start?

pxeger

I think it's clearer like that

user

@pxeger This is beautiful, can you add Scala-like underscore function literals or tacit programming next?

@pxeger I feel loke first 50 (for all three blocks ) should be enough although i didn’t read the entire challenge

pxeger

1:11 PM

@user you may be interested in such projects as github.com/dutc/rwatch

Bubbler

@emanresuA At least in TIB, it runs in your own computer, not someone else's :P

pxeger

>>> import rwatch
>>> from sys import setrwatch
>>> def view(frame, obj): return obj + 1
>>> setrwatch({id(2): view})
>>> x = 2
>>> x
4
>>> print(x * 2)
20

@pxeger @user ^

user

Beautiful

lyxal

You want to know what's beautiful? Deltarune chapter 2

I just finished it and it was a real epic journey

@pxeger based? Based on what?

pVC aecidiospore adduced

1:36 PM

CMC: Perform jelly like indices. ị

user

This is a challenge, isn’t it?

Scala: s=>s.indices filter s

Razetime

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced close as needs details or clarity

pVC aecidiospore adduced

ok

Mithical

2:05 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh no.

Aaron Miller

@lyxal Wait, chapter 2 is out?! :D

caird coinheringaahing

@Mithical Hey, I'm following the teachings of Philippe on how to use sharp sticks, it'll be fine :P

Mithical

2:21 PM

Was that supposed to be reassuring...?

caird coinheringaahing

2:56 PM

Well, he only uses the sharp sticks when merited, which is good enough for IMO :P

Adám

3:07 PM

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced Underspecified?

caird coinheringaahing

@pVCaecidiosporeadduced So, given a list and an int/float, return the element at the 1-index specified, or the two elements at [floor(x), ceil(x)] if given a float?

pVC aecidiospore adduced

@cairdcoinheringaahing yes

also studies are super hard

New Posts

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Q: Triple countdown sequence

Let's start with the natural numbers [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,9...

code-golf sequence

Wheat Wizard

6:01 PM

You know the nice thing about SE chat being old and neglected is that I can leave it open in a tab and not have to worry about it. Discord, slack et al will make my cpu run hot as long as they are open, so I have to close the tabs when I'm not using them.

Adám

@WheatWizard This ^ 100% this. Google Voice too.

user

6:18 PM

@WheatWizard Some browsers automatically hibernate tabs or something like that afaik

Adám

@user Not really useful if it is a tab that's supposed to give notifications.

user

Ah, true

Neil

I've not noticed a problem with Discord but then again I don't have it open right now for comparison

Adám

6:36 PM

Discord in the browser is almost doing too little: It tends to no be able to connect shared screens :-(

rak1507

6:50 PM

@WheatWizard yeah, relevant and interesting article I read earlier danluu.com/web-bloat

l4m2

Is there no direct link from main page to 19thB?

caird coinheringaahing

@l4m2 Not directly to the room, but if you click the SE logo hamburger on the top bar, there's a link to chat there

l4m2

I can only see one CHAT at bottom

though I came through sandbox

emanresu A

7:06 PM

Hello

Browncat Programs

8:19 PM

@AncientSwordRage I don't think so, I have a few in my head that I usually use but it depends on the KotH in question

For simpler KotHs, which I'd discourage, I'd recommend intro, gameplay/rules, additional gameplay sections if needed, I/O, example bot, controller, and footer mentioning the winning criterion.

For more complex KotHs, I'll usually move the controller and sometimes example bot(s) to github, then have an introduction, some sections covering different aspects of the game in more detail, the I/O, and a footer with the normal disclaimers and scoring and stuff.

KotHs are very tricky to write because the time you have to invest to read and understand the spec is often enough to keep people from answering

So you have to keep it brief, but too brief and it's underspecified or just a dry info dump.

I'm experimenting with a potential solution for my very complicated upcoming KotH (Hunter-Gatherer) where I just have a somewhat long overview on the post, with more technical details in an "almanac" on GH

AncientSwordRage

8:38 PM

@BrowncatPrograms that's insightful, I had only really been thinking about how to write the controller and not given any thought to the rest of what you described

My idea was similar (but still distinct) to a KotH I saw a while back, so if I got permission I could hopefully fork that repo and carry over some of the points in the post

caird coinheringaahing

9:27 PM

@l4m2 Chat definitely does need to be advertised more; I think a lot of challenge authors would post better challenges if they talked about them in chat first

Have I mentioned how much I hate chat on mobile? :/

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