The Nineteenth Byte

Browncat Programs

18:25

@Dudecoinheringaahing Most likely a bug with the change I made to add support for other sites

Make sure you're on the current one, I'd made a very slight tweak to fix one cause of that issue and forgot to update the version number

Dude coinheringaahing

18:45

@BrowncatPrograms I think I'm on 1.2, is that the most current one?

Browncat Programs

Go to line 135, does it include "GRT." + site_name + "_" +?

That will indicate whether you're on the old or new 1.2, since I forgot to update the version number when I added that

Dude coinheringaahing

"GRT." + site_name + "_" + on line 135

Browncat Programs

Hmm :/

I guess I'll take a look at that later

Dude coinheringaahing

Yeah no rush :P

I just got yelled at this morning because my computer made beeping noises every 30 seconds whenever it opened a new tab for the review :P

Browncat Programs

Oh cool, I'm currently the only one on the site who's done a first questions review

So I was the last to ever do an FP review, and the first to ever do an FQ

Dude coinheringaahing

18:52

I got that question, but in the CV review queue IIRC :(

Browncat Programs

Same

Dude coinheringaahing

I just did big brain :P I'm doing a "Minecraft, but you can't break any blocks" (like, using a tool) challenge, and in order to get sand for tnt, I traded with a wandering trader for it. Might be the only time I've ever done that :P

@Dudecoinheringaahing ಠ_ಠ and them immediately wasted those blocks by towering up to see my surroundings. I'm not smart :P

Browncat Programs

Good job :p

hyper-neutrino

oh wait new review queues?

all i've heard about the new review thing is people in TL complaining about the comments

apparently community is spamming comments not useful for most sites except SO that can't be flagged by users

Dude coinheringaahing

Yeah, if you click "share feedback", the stock comment is done by Community, but they've only made stock comments applicable to SO :/

hyper-neutrino

19:02

i only have 83 on FP so at least i didn't lose much progress on the badge lol

doubt i'll even end up getting any stewards

Browncat Programs

@Dudecoinheringaahing I don't think I can repro the a-bunch-of-tabs-are-opening issue

hyper-neutrino

@Dudecoinheringaahing well that's unpleasant

Browncat Programs

@hyper-neutrino I was at 192 :(

hyper-neutrino

and I can't even edit those comments?

Dude coinheringaahing

@BrowncatPrograms It's only happening for me when there's a review task. On Chrome on Windows

Browncat Programs

19:03

I'm simulating review tasks, yeah

user

@Dudecoinheringaahing Why isn't there an option to have the stock comment made by the user themself?

Dude coinheringaahing

There is, that's called commenting :P

Aug 26 at 15:40, by Dude coinheringaahing

@Catija @Slate For the new review changes, do you know if it's at all possible for specific sites to customise the canned responses in the FA/FQ queues?

user

2lzy2typestokcoment

iwantitdunautomaticly

Dude coinheringaahing

I'd definitely use these types of canned comment for the welcome stuff tbh

hyper-neutrino

time to make a bot under my account to auto-delete all of the community stock comments

Dude coinheringaahing

19:04

I already use a userscript for quick comments

Browncat Programs

I even added a feature which should allow review task tabs to close themselves after 10 minutes, which makes that really strange

Dude coinheringaahing

@BrowncatPrograms Yeah, that's happening

user

@Dudecoinheringaahing Userscripts aren't always available if you're using a public laptop/phone/whatever, and it's handier to have it built-in

Dude coinheringaahing

@user Yeah exactly, I don't leave the welcome message when reviewing from my phone because it's from my userscript. Having a auto-comment + template feature builtin would be great

I'd want it to be so that the reviewer can edit the comment tho

user

Yeah, maybe it should show you the stock comment before Community actually posts it

The problem with that is that you can make Community say stuff like "I AM BOT FEED ME BUTTER"

:P

Browncat Programs

19:07

@Dudecoinheringaahing Can you open codegolf.stackexchange.com/review/close and look at the console?

Dude coinheringaahing

> Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 ()

Browncat Programs

If a whole bunch of errors show up or codegolf_review_close isn't commented, that's the issue

Dude coinheringaahing

> codegolf_review_close

Those two are both showing up in the console (I think the 404 is from something else tho)

Browncat Programs

The 404's not relevant, yeah

No other errors though?

If you want, try closing any review task tabs you have open (if you still have the one I linked open), then edit the script to add setInterval(async () => console.log(Date.now() - (await GM.getValue("GRT." + site_name + "_review_close") || 0)), 1000); after line 155.

If you then open the close votes queue in a new tab, it should reset the counter being logged to a number below 1000. If it doesn't, or the number looks really big and starts with 16, there's something wrong.

Wait not after 155

After the setInterval that's probably near 155

Above var timeout = -1;

Dude coinheringaahing

19:34

It hasn't output anything, even after reopening the tab and reloading

Browncat Programs

It outputs on the main tab, not the queue one

If it's not outputting anything on either then I'm not really sure what's happening

Dude coinheringaahing

Outputs 776

And then keeps outputting numbers (is currently at 33970)

Browncat Programs

Even with the close votes tab still open?

It should stay under a thousand while it's open

Dude coinheringaahing

Nope, if I have the tab open it stays below 1000

Browncat Programs

Okay, that's intended behavior then

Not sure why it's opening tasks multiple times

xvk3

19:47

I'm thinking of a problem about creating "better Ceaser Ciphers" - mapping 'a'-'z' to a-z (but semi-randomised). It's possible to simply ROR the letter in a CC but can it be more convoluted? I wanted to write a hash map thing and test it loads of time to see if it maps a-z one to one.

Browncat Programs

There can be other ways of making a bijection of a-z than just rotating them, if that's what you're asking

An example would be b becomes a and a becomes b, c becomes d and d becomes c, etc.

Another would be a is z, b is y, c is x, etc.

pxeger

There are 26-factorial bijections on a-z, in fact

tjjfvi

Any permutation (i.e. ordering) of a-z is a bijection of a-z

e.g. qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm

xvk3

thanks for 'bijection'!

tjjfvi

(specifically, you're looking for a permutation, which is a bijection from a set to itself)

pxeger

19:52

It's not gonna be a very good cipher for English text though btw, because some basic letter and word frequency analysis will let you reverse it quickly

Browncat Programs

You might want to google "substitution cipher"

xvk3

@BrowncatPrograms hm I hadn't thought of these. I wanted to do one of those awesome interactive cops and robbers style events, try to break a cipher vs try to write a good mapping

tjjfvi

You could make it not limited to any cipher

You just have to include the source code (of input->output) and a few examples of output

Then the robbers have to figure out the inputs for the outputs

xvk3

it's surely possible there are magic numbers which can be used to map one for one where the distance between plain character and cipher character is a. unique? b. random-ish?

@tjjfvi as in rebuild the cops' functions? hmm

Browncat Programs

I think they mean you're given the function, and have to decode some outputs

tjjfvi

19:57

Yeah, what redwolf said

pxeger

sounds easy to make impossible ones using proper cryptographic ciphers

tjjfvi

Well, you have to give the function

Which means that the private key would have to be in there somewhere

pxeger

oh ok

tjjfvi

But then it essentially devolves into "obfuscate this string"

pxeger

@tjjfvi not for asymmetric ciphers

tjjfvi

19:59

Oh, true, duh

pxeger

in RSA you can encrypt with only the public key, but you need the private key to decrypt

Browncat Programs

It's against a standard loophole to use real crypto functions

Using a scheme which is actually close to impossible impossible to break would just be like using metagolfscript, you'd get lots of downvotes and it may or may not actually be allowed

xvk3

"real" crypto functions take more into account when encrypting each character than the character itself right? They look at the stuff they've already done and have internal stuff?

pxeger

Yes

Block ciphers

Browncat Programs

Yeah, but any simple bijection of one character to another would likely be trivially breakable so you'd probably have to generalize it a bit for a CnR

xvk3

20:02

It has to be deterministic to be fair then

tjjfvi

What do you mean by "deterministic"?

Dude coinheringaahing

Not random

Browncat Programs

@Dudecoinheringaahing Not necessarily

tjjfvi

Well, yes, but I'm not sure that narrows it as much as they're looking for. RSA is deterministic, for example

xvk3

I was think deterministic as in "a" always equals "k" in whatever function. Is that too restrictive?

Browncat Programs

20:10

I think it is

You could just put all 26 letters into the function, then you've broken the cipher

hyper-neutrino

you only need to put in 25 technically :p (if it's bijective)

xvk3

okay I need to do more thinking, seems it's hard (for me) to write a function but trival to break

emanresu A

i!H

Does this have a dupe-target?

It doesn't for me - repro please

hyper-neutrino

yes, it's this

it says right in the question body

Dude coinheringaahing

> Possible Duplicate:
Ternary conditional operator in Python

That's the old way of closing as a dupe

emanresu A

20:26

That's why

Oh I se

I didn't even see the possible duplicate thing

:P

Any final feedback?

Dude coinheringaahing

22:05

Are the Community Ads still featured for anyone else?

Browncat Programs

Oh no

They're still featured for me

emanresu A

Yes

Browncat Programs

Featuring seems very broken :p

Dude coinheringaahing

Featuring + locking is the issue

emanresu A

Get hyper to 11 it then

Dude coinheringaahing

22:08

Problem is that it was locked by a CM, I think hyper's not wanted to 11 it before because it might mess things up for them somehow?

emanresu A

Hm

2 hours ago, by emanresu A

Any final feedback?

Dude coinheringaahing

@emanresuA I'd make it clearer that OP can choose \$a\$

emanresu A

Ok

Aside from that?

Dude coinheringaahing

You haven't given any size/scale for the borders

emanresu A

What do you mean?

Dude coinheringaahing

22:17

Oh wait, \$a\$ is the border width

emanresu A

Yes

Anything else?

Dude coinheringaahing

You have star and wedge mixed up in the table (the images)

emanresu A

II do

Otherwise?

Dude coinheringaahing

Also, personally, I'd go with 6a instead of 5.75a. I doubt it'll change the shapes too much, and it simplifies the golfing

But that's up to you :P

Aww, no empty layers? :(

emanresu A

The thing is, 5.75a is the right amount to make the borders not quite overlap on wedges and stars.

Dude coinheringaahing

22:22

How does 5.5 look?

emanresu A

@Dudecoinheringaahing I haven't tested anything, but it's quite close, as you can see, and I want to make it look as close to the original as possible.

Which means preferably no border overlaps

Dude coinheringaahing

Yeah, that's fine. I'm just thinking about simplifying the golfing, that's all :P

emanresu A

Ok, so good to post?

Dude coinheringaahing

I suspect you'll get a few clarification comments, given that its graphical-output, but I don't see any big issues with it

emanresu A

Ok

Anything aside from code-golf graphical-output?

Dude coinheringaahing

22:29

Actually, are you requiring the input format to be like that?

Especially the "joined by :"? I think allowing answers to take a list of 4 layers would be a better idea

emanresu A

Ok sure

Dude coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Maybe geometry if that's a tag?

> 330 questions

Ok, guess it is :P

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Q: Draw me a shape

The game shapez.io has a lot of shapes. In my previous challenge, the object was to generate a random code for a shape. Now, your challenge is to render a shape. Specs Shapes Each shape has a unique shortcode, for example: is CrWgRuSp - clockwise from top right, red circle, green wedge, uncolore...

emanresu A

Here you go!

@NewPosts @BrowncatPrograms why the woof?

Dude coinheringaahing

woof?

rak1507

22:34

lol, for dog week I assume

Dude coinheringaahing

There needs to be a lang like Charcoal but for graphical-output challenges

emanresu A

No one's a dog except dlosc :p

Dude coinheringaahing

@Dudecoinheringaahing Oh, the identicon

emanresu A

@Dudecoinheringaahing You could do something like Jelly+SVG

Can you do that?

Browncat Programs

That "woof" icon took me quite a while to perfect, glad someone finally noticed it :p

Dude coinheringaahing

22:35

I think Jelly + BPM is the standard for Jelly answers to graphical-output

emanresu A

The first answer's probably gonna be JS

Dude coinheringaahing

First cat ears, now woofing? Y'all, I think New Posts is a furry :P

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emanresu A

You are a cat - you have fur

Dude coinheringaahing

Having fur != being a furry

emanresu A

Hmmm

Browncat Programs

22:37

Being furry and being a furry are also different

emanresu A

Yes\

@BrowncatPrograms There is no dog week

and I'm a tree because user and Pygamer's fault

New Posts

@Dudecoinheringaahing I'm not denying it

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emanresu A

23:19

CMC: Worst name for TNB?

Dude coinheringaahing

Lyxal's meme room

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Browncat Programs

The golf Room (officla) (18+) (gone wrong) (gone sexual)

Dude coinheringaahing

Unfortunately, all but the (18+) is accurate, and even that's not a bad suggestion :P

Browncat Programs

But we'd lose the best person in the room if it was 18+

Dude coinheringaahing

I'm 19, dw :P

I think I'm going to move this all over to CGCC gaming, it's sort of taken over the room

Browncat Programs

23:24

Yeah that's another reason I don't, because I'll just keep talking about it :p

Dude coinheringaahing

→ 174 messages moved to CG&CC-gaming

Allxy

@Dudecoinheringaahing I think this is a great name

exedraj

@Allxy and I agree with this sentiment

Allxy

@exedraj very cool lyxal

Dude coinheringaahing

@Allxy Thank you for that independent and unbiased opinion :P

emanresu A

23:27

lol

Allxy

@Dudecoinheringaahing as redwolf once said:

May 4 at 3:49, by Redwolf Programs

@Lyxal This is the kind of hard hitting journalism we need in these desperate times

user

@Dudecoinheringaahing Lyxal's Juicy Meme Stash

@BrowncatPrograms Who, New Posts?

Browncat Programs

No, me!

user

> But we'd lose the best person in the room if it was 18+

Since when are you a person? You're either a wolf, a cat, or a bot

Or all of them, idk

Dude coinheringaahing

Or a Programs

user

23:34

Yes, anything but a person

Allxy

@Dudecoinheringaahing clearly they are several JavaScript files stored in a private github repository somewhere

exedraj

Hence the programs part of redwolf programs

emanresu A

rm redwolf.js

user

Several JavaScript files

emanresu A

cd redwolf

rm -f

user

23:45

Clearly, we must take a page out of Redwolf's own book and run rm -rf / --no-preserve-root to completely purge the virus

exedraj

23:56

Okay but seriously though who is vyxal cookie?

They now have a youtube account as well as a github account

Dude coinheringaahing

That's what happens when you click "Accept All Cookies" too many times :P

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emanresu A

@exedraj has to be user

exedraj

@Dudecoinheringaahing and when you click invite as organisation owner instead of invite as member :p

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