The Nineteenth Byte

Unrelated String

00:20

only novel approach i can think of is 10 bytes :/

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We all know how to SKI, but can you BCKW? code-golf combinatory-logic functional-programming lambda-calculus Background Lambda calculus is a model of computation using lambda terms. A variable \$x\$ is a lambda term. If \$E\$ is a lambda term, the lambda abstraction \$\lambda x. E\$ is a lambda ...

Bubbler

Feedback?

user

00:43

@SandboxPosts Get out of my brain!

I swear I was thinking of nearly the exact same thing just today

Bubbler

CMP: How would you pronounce BCKW?

caird coinheringaahing

"Back-Wuh"

Or maybe more "back-kwuh"

Bubbler

I agree up to BaCK, had no idea about the W part

user

@Bubbler All the letters individually (Bee See Kay Dublew)

@SandboxPosts This might also be interesting as a meta golf challenge (or atomic meta golf, I guess)

Unrelated String

you could arrange it bwck and pronounce it like book

caird coinheringaahing

00:54

The Welsh w?

OldSandboxPosts

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Make me some puzzles

Amethyst Wizard

01:12

poo

Redwolf Programs

01:35

What is cross product useful for? Is it a good built-in for a golfing language or no?

caird coinheringaahing

Given that it's only properly defined for 3-vectors and 7-vectors, I doubt it

Could be worth a digraph if you have those

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Ordered, linear, affine, or relevant? code-golf functional-programming lambda-calculus combinatory-logic Background Supplementary reading 1, Supplementary reading 2 Linear lambda calculus is a limited form of lambda calculus, where every bound variable must be used exactly once. For example, \a b...

Bubbler

@RedwolfPrograms Cross product is useful for calculating the area of a triangle, or calculating the determinant of a 3x3 matrix. Probably too niche though (and yeah, it has way too narrow domain to be widely useful)

user

@RedwolfPrograms as s digraph, maybe

Redwolf Programs

I'm not planning on having digraphs in any future languages, honestly

Unrelated String

01:43

very good digraph

i can see why you'd avoid them from a sort of artistic standpoint

Redwolf Programs

Plus it's so much work implementing hundreds of extra operators that'll get used like once

caird coinheringaahing

Digraphs only really mean anything in golfing langs

Unrelated String

for the exact same reason that they are essential for being super golfy

caird coinheringaahing

Normal esolangs aren't concerned enough with having that large a builtin set, a non-golfing langs don't have single byte commands :P

Feel free to bring up APL, J, k etc. to prove me wrong

Bubbler

About time to compress programs to the bit level

Redwolf Programs

01:46

I wouldn't really consider that compression

It still takes a lot of work to figure out how to weight the different operators, it's not just like feeding your code through gzip and calling it a day

Bubbler

@cairdcoinheringaahing J has LOTS of digraphs and even a few trigraphs, and K has a few digraphs too

caird coinheringaahing

@Bubbler Yeah, J is close to all digraphs :P

Bubbler

Lol, yeah

caird coinheringaahing

How does J's backtick operator/function/whatever works?

Unrelated String

reminds me i really like the use of colon for digraphs, aesthetically

caird coinheringaahing

01:49

Example usage

Redwolf Programs

Using colons for anything is really nice aesthetically, probably one of the top ten printable ASCII characters :p

caird coinheringaahing

Letters are by far the worst aesthetically tbh

Bubbler

@cairdcoinheringaahing That one is simply a hack to create a list of strings

Redwolf Programs

@cairdcoinheringaahing Some are nice :p

Unrelated String

eh

Redwolf Programs

01:50

a, d, f, n, r, w, z, and some others

caird coinheringaahing

o is alright, the rest are meh

Redwolf Programs

o is just too blue

lyxal

laughs in that's the whole point of Keg

Bubbler

@cairdcoinheringaahing A proper answer: refer to this page. Primary usage is calling one of multiple functions based on a condition, or hacking other primitives to fit into a train or cycling through multiple functions during reduction (I guess Jelly's tie is inspired by this one)

caird coinheringaahing

I think I've got the basis for how the commands will work in Mixology, now I just need to think about what commands I should add :/

lyxal

01:55

Every built in present in python?

caird coinheringaahing

Ah yes, the essentially bytes builtin :P

Redwolf Programs

@AmethystWizard Is there any context I'm missing for this?

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms poo

Bubbler

I have an idea for a golflang where you write a "literate" code that somewhat looks like K, and the "compiler" converts it to a binary format that encodes the shape of the AST and the list of built-ins and argument references in a separate section

Amethyst Wizard

@RedwolfPrograms no I just wanted to write poo

caird coinheringaahing

01:58

@AmethystWizard Why here?

Redwolf Programs

At least do it on Code Review :p

Bubbler

@Bubbler This should nullify all the decision making problems between prefix/tacit/stack/whatever :P

Redwolf Programs

No, because the AST representation still has to be one of those! :p

Bubbler

AST will be encoded to a single integer.

Amethyst Wizard

he he, I opened the first global chatroom that seemed boring

then thought, I better write poo

Unrelated String

02:00

@lyxal where's tuple smh

Redwolf Programs

@AmethystWizard It's not super disruptive, but you should probably refrain from doing that in the future :p

caird coinheringaahing

I really should go to bed, but I have a fan here and not in my room, I'm in the middle of a good binge and I don't really want to go to bed :P

Amethyst Wizard

:)

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing what temperature is it?

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal Too hot for me :P

lyxal

02:02

@cairdcoinheringaahing so probably 18° as the max

caird coinheringaahing

It's fairly cool outside, but inside is weirdly hot :/

lyxal

Do you consider 15°C to be hot?

Redwolf Programs

My parents insist that 78°F (25.5°C) is perfectly cool for sleeping >:|

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal Not usually

user

Probably the nukes, put them in your fridge :P

lyxal

02:03

@cairdcoinheringaahing good

Redwolf Programs

@RedwolfPrograms That or they're just cheap and all the cold air sinks down to their room anyway

user

@RedwolfPrograms you don’t agree?

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms they're right. I'd take 25°C any day of the week during summer over high 30s

caird coinheringaahing

It's 16°C outside rn, but my house is stupid hot

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing what is it inside?

user

02:04

@cairdcoinheringaahing As I said, put your nukes in the fridge or take them outside smh

Redwolf Programs

@lyxal Yeah but...it's not like that in your house hopefully (high 30s)?

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal 26°C according to the temperature thing

user

@RedwolfPrograms Not since HN nikes their fridge

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms hehe you try sleeping through high 30s with only a fan and tell me you don't appreciate 25

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah okay I can see how that's hot. Can you open any windows?

caird coinheringaahing

Houses here are built to keep heat :/

@lyxal Not in the room I'm currently in

user

02:06

@lyxal No, she uses cairdOS

caird coinheringaahing

Just has window-door things that I will forget to lock if I open them

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing how about in your room?

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal Yeah, I have my window open in my room, but it's not as good as a fan

user

Try eating some ice cream to feel better

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing could you sneak outside for a moment to enjoy the cool outside for a while?

caird coinheringaahing

02:07

I find a cold beer is better :P

@lyxal Patch insists of going to the toilet every hour or so, so I take advantage of those :P

lyxal

Very clever.

Alright, next suggestion: do you have any tea towels nearby? Because if so, wet it with cold water, wring the water out of it and put it around your neck

That's how I managed summer this year

caird coinheringaahing

I've never seen Patch more tired tbh, but he will run himself into the ground before ever not running, so during the day when it's 25+, he's out in the garden chasing the ball around for 10+ hours constant :P

Unrelated String

what the hell is a tea towel

Redwolf Programs

@lyxal Is central air conditioning not a thing in Australia?

lyxal

caird coinheringaahing

02:10

@UnrelatedString A towel you use to soak up spilt tea, something every good Brit (+ people in the Colonies) has

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms the AC didn't reach my room

Unrelated String

oh one of those

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing and Aussie too

Oh wait you mentioned colonies

Nvm

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal Don't listed to lyxal, he's a liar :P

Those are soup spoons

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms in some places though, it isn't. In those places, people have their homes underground

That's mostly in the actual outback like Alice Springs and the lower NT

caird coinheringaahing

02:13

> Coober Pedy

That doesn't sound like a real place

lyxal

It jd

*is

And I was right about it

Redwolf Programs

Wasn't it an opal mining town or something?

lyxal

I was questioning my knowledge of geography when I saw it was in SA but it's an underground town

@RedwolfPrograms yes

Coober Pedy

Coober Pedy () is a town in northern South Australia, 846 km (526 mi) north of Adelaide on the Stuart Highway. The town is sometimes referred to as the "opal capital of the world" because of the quantity of precious opals that are mined there. Coober Pedy is renowned for its below-ground residences, called "dugouts", which are built in this fashion due to the scorching daytime heat. The name "Coober Pedy" comes from an Aboriginal term kupa-piti, which means "whitefellas' hole". In the 2016 Census, there were 1,762 people in Coober Pedy. == History == Aboriginal people have a long-standin...

See, homes in the ground

Because it's that hot

caird coinheringaahing

I maintain that everything in Australia, including lyxal, wants to kill you :P

lyxal

Oh yeah obviously

Redwolf Programs

02:16

I'd hate to live somewhere like that, anything over 22°C is uncomfortably hot :p

(For indoors)

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms Yeah, I wouldn't want to be out that way either

Luckily for me I'm on the east coast dabs aggressively because the Hunter region is cool

Redwolf Programs

I like how there's a citation needed for "[v]ery little plant life exists in town" :p

@lyxal At least it looks like that place has a low humidity, it's often nearly 40°C and ridiculously humid here :/

lyxal

CMQ: What's your impressions of Australia?

Redwolf Programs

Upside down Texas but an island and more british

lyxal

As in, what would you expect to see if you came over here right now?

caird coinheringaahing

02:19

Annoyingly good at cricket, very hot, full of deadly creatures

Plus, it's full of barbeques, all of which perpetually have shrimp on them :P

lyxal

The irony is that practically no one I know actually does that

caird coinheringaahing

bbq'ed shrimp is actually pretty solid, ngl

Redwolf Programs

Sounds like it'd end up overcooked

lyxal

Confession: I've never had barbecued shrimp and I'm Australian

caird coinheringaahing

Grounds for revoking citizenship? :P

lyxal

02:28

@JoKing have you ever chucked another shrimp on the barbie?

Redwolf Programs

Is there a word for something like combinations or permutations, but where items can be repeated? E.g., [1, 2, 4, 8] with 2 could give you [1, 2], [1, 1], [2, 2], [2, 4] etc.

caird coinheringaahing

Combinations with replacement?

Redwolf Programs

Thanks!

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Jelly, 2 bytes œċ :P

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms Vyxal, 1 byte: ↔

Redwolf Programs

02:40

I'm starting on an extremely cursed JS library :p

caird coinheringaahing

So normal JS? :P

Redwolf Programs

Actually it's less cursed than normal JS, but from a JS dev's perspective it is extremely worrying

Unrelated String

non builtin, ṗṢƑƇ

caird coinheringaahing

@UnrelatedString That only works if the input is sorted

Unrelated String

...true

Redwolf Programs

02:45

@RedwolfPrograms I'm completely removing all of the existing JS prototypes for the basic types, then designing my own.

caird coinheringaahing

@UnrelatedString Jelly, 8 bytes ṗ³iⱮṢƑƊƇ

Unrelated String

ahh, nice

caird coinheringaahing

The more tacit version is 9 bytes :/

i can be a pain to work with if the arguments don't work :/

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing Don't say that about yourself. I'm sure people find it pleasent working with you even if your arguments aren't correct :p

hyper-neutrino

dfhjkshkgjlh

4

nice. i didn't even notice that cuz of the codeblocked i and I know that index-of is often very annoying

caird coinheringaahing

02:56

@hyper-neutrino A very enlightened contribution to the conversation :P

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing evidently so, as seen by the stars, which in TNB obviously indicate an interesting message worth showing other chat visitors

caird coinheringaahing

> Mobile view is being deprecated in favour of the responsive design
Maintenance planned for July 24, 12pm UTC/8am US EDT
dfhjkshkgjlh
Expert golfers REVEAL: You won't believe how GREAT this chat room is!
YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A GAY PERSON
You won't, just like how websites you visit won't know if you're secretly a gay pirate assassin
Remember, kids: If anyone offers you unicode, just say no.

That's... surprisingly representative of us tbh :P

Unrelated String

...yep

lyxal

03:37

@cairdcoinheringaahing tl;dr: The awesome chat room is a big part of the reason why I love Reddit.

(this summary provided by GPT-3)

I'm not a tech guy, but I do see a future where the fastest way to get a stream is to get a streamer who has the best stream, then record it on the fastest stream, and then stream it to someone who has the best stream.

Redwolf Programs

Honestly it's kind of hard to tell when you're posting as you or GPT-3 sometimes :p

lyxal

(my above message should apparently recieve 4 stars)

Redwolf Programs

Designing a language that really feels like it shouldn't be TC when it actually is is a lot of fun

lyxal

> Jelly is a programming language. It is a special type of programming language called a "tacit programming language". This means that you can make new programs by combining old ones.

> Nilads take no arguments (arity 0). They are like numbers, like 3. There is a special kind of nilad called a literal, which does not need to be made with a link, like 3.

> There is only one kind of link that takes no arguments (arity 0), and that's a "literal". There is only one kind of link that takes one argument (arity 1), and that's a "monad". There is only one kind of link that takes two arguments (arity 2), and that's a "dyad".

Jelly, as summarised by AI given the first section of the tutorial

as summarised for a second grader

Redwolf Programs

Surprisingly accurate, I honestly thought you were copy-pasting someone's work-in-progress Jelly tutorial :p

lyxal

03:52

> Jelly is like a secret code. You can make a program by putting together lots of little words, and you can make new words by putting together lots of little letters. The way the words are put together tells the computer what to do.

I gave it a bit more of the tutorial

> Jelly is a programming language that lets you write a recipe for a program. Each recipe is a chain of links. The links are like steps in the recipe. The links are like the ingredients. You can write a recipe for a cake, or for a pizza, or for anything else you can think of. You can write a recipe for your own game. Or you can write a recipe for something you found on the internet.

caird coinheringaahing

Well, I was working on an in-depth Jelly teaching document, but I think I'll just let GPT do it instead :P

lyxal

> Functions are like chains. The last link in the chain is the one that gets called.

The links before the last link are like little boxes. In each box, you can write a function. So you can have a box with a function in it, and then another box with a function in it, and so on.

When you call a link, you pass it some arguments (like if you call a function). Those arguments go into the box. So if you call the box with the function inside it, you can use the arguments to do things.

Redwolf Programs

That sounds like someone who's really bad at explaining things but wants to be helpful :p

lyxal

> We start by looking at the leftmost thing in the chain.
Then we look at the next thing in the chain, and keep going until we get to the right end of the chain.
Then we take all the things we looked at, and put them together.

@cairdcoinheringaahing I wouldn't hold your breath on that:

> When you do a math problem, the first thing you do is add one to the number.

Then you add two.

Then you add three.

Then you add four.

Then you add five.

Then you add six.

Then you add seven.

Then you add eight.
How much is that? It's nine.

Redwolf Programs

such math much wow

Cool, try running this in the console on chat: Notifier().notify("This does exactly what you'd expect.")

lyxal

03:58

wow

Redwolf Programs

@lyxal All math problems are apparently -27

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms if you wanted to do that in python, you'd write:

from notifier import Notifier
Notifier().notify("This does exactly what you'd expect.")

at least that's what it said

because it can to js to python

Razetime

04:10

morning

Redwolf Programs

Morning (almost)! :p

Razetime

it is hopefully a day when i finish something

Redwolf Programs

Aw man I clicked "juice" instead of "drink", which makes it slightly less entertaining

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms "We ate a lot of hay."

hyper-neutrino

jugo feels like it's either to play or to drink :p idk why

Redwolf Programs

04:15

"jugo" actually could mean "I play" IIRC

Razetime

juice em chickiens

hyper-neutrino

jugo as "to play" is probably just cuz of jouer from french

Redwolf Programs

Just thinking about pronouncing that hurts my head

hyper-neutrino

it's not actually that bad lol, and it actually makes sense given french pronunciation

if you want a word that causes headaches if you don't know french pronunciation

try oiseaux :P

Razetime

i knew it

i knew you were gonna post chicken

Redwolf Programs

04:22

Anything french is guaranteed to look completely unpronounceable to me :p

hyper-neutrino

@Razetime that is "bird"

Redwolf Programs

@hyper-neutrino My guess is something like "oy-so" or "wah-so"

But in a snooty french accent

hyper-neutrino

woh-zou

Razetime

oh yeah chicken is poulet

hyper-neutrino

oi is woh

Razetime

04:23

my french is bad

hyper-neutrino

the s is a z cuz funny

and eau is just long O, and the trailing X is silent as usual

Redwolf Programs

CMQ: When casting an array of strings to a single string, what should the strings be joined with by default?

Nothing, spaces, commas, and newlines all seem like somewhat reasonable options

Razetime

nothing

Jo King

04:48

@lyxal i don't really eat seafood

PyGamer0

05:57

I just crashed my computer

pxeger

06:58

@RedwolfPrograms ,

lyxal

@PyGamer0 well done

@RedwolfPrograms empty string

PyGamer0

@RedwolfPrograms |

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino or my favourite, écureuil

Bubbler

07:24

@RedwolfPrograms

PyGamer0

v0.0.1 of 51AC8 released!

AviFS

Just wanted to say hi bc it's been a slightly-longer-than-usual amount of time! I'm checking often though; please feel free to ping for anything & everything anytime!

pxeger

hi

PyGamer0

how do i make this shorter :P

pxeger

RLE + eval?

PyGamer0

07:31

@pxeger does jelly have loops?

Bubbler

07:51

Jelly has many kinds of loops. Check the quicks page

Meanwhile, a highly experimental golflang design: I have 15 commands that can do 107 different things in total

PyGamer0

@Bubbler how would you make that?

pxeger

overloading?

Bubbler

Every command is ternary. Each command is overloaded based on four kinds of data (something, nothing, and two kinds of functions) on each slot

If a command takes two nothings, it essentially acts as a monadic function on the third thing, and it can be one of three different monadic functions based on where the actual thing is

So even without counting higher-order functions, you get seven possible overloads for each command

And the primary higher-order command @ currently has 19 different overloads

AviFS

08:59

Does anyone know:

How do you watch a multiline string in VScode's debugger (python)?

By default, it's just showing it to me as: aslglajsg\nsljgag\n\talsg but since it's a formatted string, it'd be really nice to see what it actually looks like

watching the expression print(str) just gives None

I'm sure there's an issue on this, or something in the docs, but I can't find anything. Any Google wizards?

pxeger

doesn't seem to be any way of doing it, no

it always takes the repr of the value

this might work:

class StringWrapper:
    def __init__(self, s):
        self._s = s

    def __repr__(self):
        return self._s

    def __str__(self):
        return self._s
StringWrapper("foo")

AviFS

Oh, it's taking the repr! I'm not at my brightest at 2am. Thanks that's at a great idea!

Did you find anything on Google?

If not, I should ask on SO at some point, and let you answer so we can share the rep :P

If it's taking the repr though, we shouldn't need the str line, right?

I'm guessing that's from before you figured out which it was?

pxeger

@AviFS well I just added __str__ because then it acts more like a string

AviFS

haha, that's a good point

pxeger

@AviFS no I just know that repr is what results in things like aslglajsg\nsljgag\n\talsg

AviFS

09:14

I totally got that it was your brilliance. Just wondering if you tried finding stuff online, and were or weren't able to

pxeger

haha

AviFS

maybe you didn't try

pxeger

no, the VScode documentation had very little info about the debugger watch expressions

code.visualstudio.com/docs/editor/debugging#_data-inspection

AviFS

it's true :(

and also, it doesn't quite work...

it only shows the first line and you can't expand it

but i did see issues related to that earlier

pxeger

oh, it's probably not expecting to have newlines in the repr I guess

AviFS

09:18

yeah, it must not be

Bubbler

Probably the watch window itself is simply not designed to show multiline stuff

I can't find anything relevant on vscode docs or stackoverflow

and a seemingly related issue mentioned adding a config but the config itself was removed shortly after that

pxeger

try using a command-line debugger or something?

Bubbler

Also... some people would say that debuggers are for noobs :P

AviFS

It's my first time using the debugger... it's like a videogame

@Bubbler But I did find this:

17

Q: How to show the entire value in VSCode debug mode

I have been having trouble seeing the entire value of variables while debugging in Go. When I click on a rather long value, it shows me ... +# more. But I can't find a way to see the rest of that value. Even in watch mode it does the same thing, even when I click copy value it copies the ...+# m...

Except the launch.json setting are for the go debugger.

There's good chance it's also possible for python, but there's no similar named or obvious arg

Bubbler

It's not about showing multiple lines

AviFS

09:26

Oh...

Bubbler

and the settings in VScode are very specific to each language plugin, so settings for other languages won't help you at all

AviFS

I'm trying to look at a parse tree in the debugger

Turns out that's very hard to read without newlines

Bubbler

Why not just print() it in code, not the debugger?

AviFS

Esp this one which is ridiculously verbose

@Bubbler I can also use the debugging console

It just seemed so cool to have a pprint display updated dynamically

LUXURIOUS

but really, how cool would that be?

Bubbler

Luxury comes at a cost

AviFS

09:28

a visualization of a parse tree updated dynamically

@Bubbler vscode comes at a cost

this isn't my usual modus operandi, fwiw. just the early hours of the morning and i want to figure this out with my fried brain bf sleep

Bubbler

I suggest you forget the debugger thing and go to sleep. It's not the right tool for watching something more complex than some numbers

AviFS

No reason it shouldn't be though, tbh

I can keep running the pprint() func each line in the console

And it runs instantly, it's a small parse tree. Just up arrow and return

And on the sidebar w/ watch vars, they have the structure to do it

It lets you watch pretty complex stuff with arrows to toggle more and less info

Eg classes, and you can open up and look at all funcs, vars... too many. All the way until __class__, __delattr__, __dict__...

So giving you the option to toggle recursively showing you way too much is def not the issue. It's just odd that multiline strings aren't a thing. It's just stuff like classes, funcs & dicts

recursion at it's finest, muahaha

AviFS

09:52

that was a really nasty bug to figure out

Public Service Announcement: Never write things like for tree in tree.children:

Bubbler

Lol.

Python scoping strikes again

Even I get random bugs due to overwriting counter variables like that

pxeger

JS array looping jankiness

May 27 at 15:05, 12 minutes total – 38 messages, 3 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked May 27 at 15:19 by pxeger

Bubbler

10:12

I really love Rust in this regard because let x = 0; let x = x + 1; does sane thing (and using let always works when I don't want to risk overwriting anything)

And another golflang update: I ended up with 16 commands doing 129 different jobs

the default.

replacing one of them with syntax for extended commands or constants might be better

pxeger

16 commands - does that mean you'll have a 4-bit encoding like Nibbles or Risky?

Bubbler

and I still have multiple slots for extended commands

Yeah, it'll be 4-bit for commands part. I'm not decided with other parts yet though

caird coinheringaahing

10:36

@hyper-neutrino Isn't it "birds", because the "x" at the end makes it plural?

pxeger

yes

AncientSwordRage

hey

caird coinheringaahing

That, and "Bonjour, ou est la toilette?" about covers the extent of my French :P

@AncientSwordRage Hello!

AncientSwordRage

would this make a good code puzzle?

@cairdcoinheringaahing \\oo/

7

Q: She Lia Squared: Our daughter asked, “How many words can it make?”

Our daughter recently conned my wife and I into purchasing interlocking foam squares for her bedroom floor. On each square is a different letter of the alphabet. To cover her entire floor we had to purchase 4 packages. After moving all her furniture to one side of the room I commenced laying out ...

computer-puzzle open-ended word-search

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing où

AncientSwordRage

10:41

@cairdcoinheringaahing and if you ask to go to the bathroom in English "May we" but get the confusing reply of "Mais, oui" it can really mess you up...

caird coinheringaahing

@AncientSwordRage It looks interesting. The biggest problems I see is with defining a word list (I.e. "what is/isn't a word?") and that arguably it's a fixed output problem, meaning for that it wouldn't work well as a standard code golf

@pxeger It takes extra effort to type accents tho :P

AncientSwordRage

@cairdcoinheringaahing ah yeah, I guess it is fixed output once it's solved

pxeger

well just say the word list is the input

caird coinheringaahing

You could do it as one commenter suggested, and make it so that the answer that finds the most words wins

AncientSwordRage

@pxeger how do you enforce using it?

caird coinheringaahing

10:44

But I don't know whether that would produce an interesting challenge or not. It could potentially be a fastest-code where answers have X time to produce an output, largest number of words wins

@AncientSwordRage You say that only words in the input list "count". So you can produce garbage, but only the words actually matter

AncientSwordRage

@cairdcoinheringaahing ok, so once you find the best answer (from that list) you can discard the input and use a compressed string version

caird coinheringaahing

If it were a code golf challenge, it'd probably have to be something like "Given a list of words, output a grid of letters and empty spaces where every word in the grid is a member of the input list"

Obviously, more spec + detail ("what is a 'word' in the grid?") but that'd be a decent barebones

pxeger

12:42

Any feedback?

math

^ suprised it's not a duplicate... well known problem

Razetime

i remember one of caird questions which was similar

but not exact

pxeger

13:02

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Q: King of the Hill: Nose Poker - An ogre game for ogres

Nose Poker is an ogre game played by a group of ogres. Each ogre brings a large nose and a small club. On each hand, all the ogres will declare how many times they will poke their nose with the club. Each time, the lowest bid(s) will be knocked out of the game, then the remaining ogres will poke ...

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<span id="class">… nah, it'll be fine!

AJFaraday

Welp, the game of Thud failed, so I've swapped it out for a much simpler game to try and reuse my KotH infrastructure.

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but I can't use the words important and medieval in my answers :(

AJFaraday

13:20

I don't see why not :p

Unless it's code golf, I suppose, then it might be a bit wasteful

caird coinheringaahing

@Razetime This is the closest of mine, I believe

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