The Nineteenth Byte

Redwolf Programs

15:04

Morning!

hyper-neutrino

o/

Wezl

hello

pxeger

\o

Redwolf Programs

Upgrading my ws logging for the upcoming event

hyper-neutrino

@pxeger yeah... I mean, people who know about the Sandbox and know to go there first probably bothered to familiarize themselves with our site scope a bit and understand what's on-topic; only people who don't really read any of the help text we try to shove in people's face would skip sandbox and post off-topic stuff / unspecified challenges to main directly :P

it's unfortunate but we can only shove so much stuff in new users' faces, we just have to hope they read it

pxeger

15:05

Just sod's law I guess

Redwolf Programs

Currently the first thing we shove in their faces is totally incorrect though :/

hyper-neutrino

speaking of which, when you try to ask a question for the first time, SE shoves a popup in your face, and I'd like to improve that dialog and make it more relevant to CGCC

Redwolf Programs

ninja'd you :p

sort of

hyper-neutrino

kind of :p

pxeger

idea: add something to our site's CSS that completely breaks it unless you install the SE Software Abuse Userscript™ which will unbreak the CSS and, at the same time, fix all the deficiencies in the help center and stuff that cause users to post inappropriately

Wezl

15:09

lol no

hyper-neutrino

brilliant

Redwolf Programs

The recent CrOS updates have been quite good

pxeger

being?

Redwolf Programs

The chrome 90 update (a while back now), and the newest one which added a few features I'll never use but are good ideas

Like the ability to share files between nearby chromebooks and android phones, without having to bother with google drive / dropbox / ftp / email

user

MORNING MOTHERF*****S

ophact

15:16

AFTERNOON in my timezone

Redwolf Programs

Doesn't have the same ring to it though :p

user

MORNING/AFTERNOON/EVENING/NIGHT MOTHERF*****S

@RedwolfPrograms QUITE RIGHT MOTHERF*****

caird coinheringaahing

user is sam jackson confirmed

Razetime

user are there snakes on your plane

hyper-neutrino

Person A: Good morning.
Person B: Good morning.
Person C: Good morning.
Person D: You all sound like robots, try spicing it up a bit.
Person E: MORNING MOTHERF*****S

took me around 50 clicks to find it :P

user

15:19

@Razetime YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT MOTHERF*****?

Ok, I'm going to stop saying MOTHERFATHER now

caird coinheringaahing

@Razetime I am tired of these motherf*cking golfing languages on this motherf*cking site!

2

:P

Redwolf Programs

Apr 27 at 12:58, by Redwolf Programs

Redwolf: Good morning.
Lyxal: Good morning.
Razetime: Good morning.
caird: You all sound like robots, try spicing it up a bit.
user: MORNING MOTHERF*****S

hyper-neutrino

nice markdown

@RedwolfPrograms :o it was prophesized

Razetime

omg holycrap

user

@Razetime Doesn't have the same ring to it as MOTHERF***** :P

Wezl

15:20

@RedwolfPrograms just updated, not really anything helpful for me :/. The screenshot update was nice, but buggy

Redwolf Programs

I use those screenshot features almost daily, they're definitely better than the built-in tools on any other OS

Wezl

yeah

caird coinheringaahing

There have been some major changes to the close reason UI since this request was created - as such, I'd love it if y'all would take a look at this guide on MSE and revamp the close reason more completely to take advantage of the new fields. Once that's done, re-tag this as status-review and I'll edit it for y'all :) cc @hyper-neutrino — Catija ♦ 49 mins ago

I like this

Might even be worth having an entirely new meta discussion about revamping the close reasons

hyper-neutrino

I forgot to untag that myself actually :P I went over that request with Catija the other day and she pointed me to that as well as a private post on formatting close reason requests (since there are five fields to edit per close reason which can get confusing for us).

Hey there @Rainbolt! Your old meta post is once again getting attention :D

Rainbolt

i love it

I wish I had time to golf these days but I just work all the time now

I did send some high school students this way. Not sure if they got involved. They compete in programming challenges for school, so this would be a good fit for them.

caird coinheringaahing

15:31

Post or vote on Ideas for the First Time Asker Pop-up Dialog

5

hyper-neutrino

Are those programming challenges like ICPC / USACO (if you're in the US) -style competitive programming or like for-fun challenges like the ones we have?

Rainbolt

It's nearly identical to ICPC. They have a multiple choice exam portion that ICPC doesn't have. But the programming portion is the same.

hyper-neutrino

ah, that's cool

Sandbox Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Is it a valid Parker Square 5 Years ago, this happend, and then it became sort of a meme. Challenge The Challenge today is, to check if a "magic square" is a valid parker square. What is a valid parker square? It must be a \$3\times3\$ "magic square" There must be numbers that appear twice in th...

hyper-neutrino

I used to do that style of competitive programming a bit in high school but I was never really good at it. Got into the national competition kind of out of luck TBH and did absolutely garbage there xD

Rainbolt

15:36

Well I think you're pretty good if you made it to nationals

hyper-neutrino

heh, I solved the two easy problems and did some stupid solution to a really weird ad hoc problem and then solved a trivial subtask

which got me just enough points :p

Rainbolt

I competed in the south central region (Texas, Louisiana, and maybe some other states) four years in a row and we placed in the top 10 once I think.

I was happy to beat UT Austin's A Team one year

hyper-neutrino

ooh, that's very nice

user

Would you say competing in those sorts of competitions helps you later on?

pxeger

interesting fact: SE tags can't be made only of digits

caird coinheringaahing

15:39

Yes they can

1p5 or 3d

ophact

Why would you want to make a tag starting with a digit? [tag:5secstosolve]

for example

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Those aren't only digits

pxeger

:þ

hyper-neutrino

@user message was edited

Rainbolt

@user Yes I would. Specifically, when faced with a medium sized problem and I have to decide how much time do I spend Googling the solution versus just programming it myself, I feel like I have more options available to me because I spent a lot of time solving medium sized problems.

ophact

15:40

How do you do the tag thing in chat?

user

@hyper-neutrino Oh lol

caird coinheringaahing

[tag:name]

pxeger

[tag:foo]

ophact

[That's exactly what I did?

pxeger

ninja'd

ophact

15:40

Well I wrapped it around backticks.

hyper-neutrino

no `` tho

caird coinheringaahing

But without the backticks :P

ophact

155

there, it works

hyper-neutrino

1

ophact

With all digits.

hyper-neutrino

15:40

just made this tag

pxeger

huh

well why can't I create it?

hyper-neutrino

:)

ophact

Every time you go to a tagged URL, you seemingly create a new tag:

caird coinheringaahing

Mods

user

@Rainbolt Thanks, that's helpful. Someone told me those sorts of problems don't come up in real life, so I was wondering whether to continue participating in ACSL and stuff

ophact

15:41

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/ILoveRockNRoll

hyper-neutrino

@ophact not really, non-existent tags just happen to not 404

you have to tag a question to actually create it and you need 300 rep to do so

is this a mod-only thing? @cairdcoinheringaahing can you try retagging my question with 2

ophact

I have 1975 rep > 300

hyper-neutrino

i will banish both of these tags later

pxeger

ok, to be more precise: why can't I create a tag of only digits on StackOverflow for Teams?

hyper-neutrino

oh that's... different probably

Wezl

15:42

@hyper-neutrino you didn't make 11 :/

ophact

I created the prices tag, but then apparently it wasn't suitable so now it languishes somewhere

hyper-neutrino

@Wezl oops

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Just did it

user

Unrelated, but I appear to be confirmed as the Hulk, a waffle, a jerk, and Samuel Jackson

hyper-neutrino

@ophact yeah if a tag doesn't have any questions it gets eaten at 3 AM UTC i believe

ophact

15:43

I answered the Ideas for the popup thingy.

user

@hyper-neutrino whatiseaten

hyper-neutrino

i forget if no-wiki single-use tags also get chomped

user

@hyper-neutrino eatenandchompedthosedisturbme

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Once a week, on Sundays IIRC

Redwolf Programs

I thought of a really cool challenge idea, but it's been done already :/

ophact

15:44

For a second I thought that was a rickroll :/

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger Tags can have any of a-z0-9+#-. in them, there's no other restrictions

user

@ophact Here you go

Redwolf Programs

Why + and # seem kind of random

ophact

@user I'm getting better at recognizing those. now seriously stop

pxeger

@RedwolfPrograms c++ and c#

ophact

15:45

What's with the pink parts?

user

@ophact I thought you were sad that you didn't get a rickroll, because you typed :/ :/

caird coinheringaahing

This is ;# erasure

pxeger

@ophact me blocking out the name and icon of my Team

hyper-neutrino

alright I have nuked those tags and am waiting for the jaws of SE to consume them

user

@hyper-neutrino okayseriouslywhathappenstothosetagsthosewordsyoureusingaredisturbing

hyper-neutrino

15:46

@pxeger what happens if you try other numbers, does it fail for all of them?

Redwolf Programs

I'm hoping to catch an "event_type":14 pokemon today

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino seems to

ophact

ichallengeyoutobepatientenoughtotypethissuperlongtagnamesoyoucanburninateitokayfine

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Flag?

Redwolf Programs

No, "global notification"

hyper-neutrino

15:46

@user they get digested by the bots

Redwolf Programs

Not sure what it is

A flag would be pretty cool too, but my hopes aren't high

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino actually, long digit-only tags work

caird coinheringaahing

There was one earlier

hyper-neutrino

oh cool i think those tags already got yeeted because i merged them

user

@hyper-neutrino weneedtosavethosepoortags

hyper-neutrino

15:47

@pxeger huh. strange...

Redwolf Programs

What if...Redwolf make spam?

hyper-neutrino

okay seriously stop typing in tags

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Redwolf lose RO status :P

Which is also a chat event btw :P

ophact

Redwolf lose account

hyper-neutrino

Redwolf get 11 :P

user

15:48

@hyper-neutrino [tag:ok :(]

ophact

Now try that one without the backticks?

[tag:ok :(]

[tag:(]

user

Doesn't match the regex

pxeger

digit-only tags shorter than 11 characters are "not allowed"

caird coinheringaahing

Sandbox please

Redwolf Programs

TIL (or at least remembered) [...string] and string.split("") are different

ophact

15:53

yES THEY ARE

Oops capslock

pxeger

@RedwolfPrograms is that different for UTF-32 characters, or is it more subtle

Redwolf Programs

@ophact You can press the up key to edit

@pxeger Basically yeah. .split("") will break up characters that consist of multiple UTF-16 code points, while [...] won't

"😊".split("").map(s => s.codePointAt()) // (2) [55357, 56842]
[..."😊"].map(s => s.codePointAt()) // [128522]

I strongly dislike UTF-16

caird coinheringaahing

Imagine not using UTF-1, where every character is represented by a single bit

hyper-neutrino

tf

Redwolf Programs

UTF-8 is nice, because it uses single bytes so you don't have to worry about endianness and ASCII is nice and compact. UTF-32 is nice because everything is the same length. UTF-16 is like AES-192...it's just pointless.

pxeger

15:58

@hyper-neutrino I think you mean

11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

hyper-neutrino

I personally am a fan of UTF-11. It's the encoding moderators use to process mod work.

Redwolf Programs

UTF-1

UTF-1 is a method of transforming ISO 10646/Unicode into a stream of bytes. Its design does not provide self-synchronization, which makes searching for substrings and error recovery difficult. It reuses the ASCII printing characters for multi-byte encodings, making it unsuited for some uses (for instance Unix filenames cannot contain the byte value used for forward slash). UTF-1 is also slow to encode or decode due to its use of division and multiplication by a number which is not a power of 2. Due to these issues, it did not gain acceptance and was quickly replaced by UTF-8. == Design == Similar...

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Of course it actually exists :P

hyper-neutrino

ಠ_ಠ

Redwolf Programs

That's why 1xxxxxxx is used for multi-byte UTF-8

caird coinheringaahing

16:00

How about UTF-0.125? That actually makes more sense for a single bit encoding :P

user

caird has been excommunicated from SE

Redwolf Programs

UTF-2, which keeps only the four most useful letters: j, q, x, and z

hyper-neutrino

UTF-0, because text is overrated

Wasif

I wonder if UTF-0 exists

pxeger

UTF-⅔, which encodes every string as a solution to this

caird coinheringaahing

16:02

@hyper-neutrino

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing

caird coinheringaahing

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing

Redwolf Programs

The event got removed from Hinduism.SE so I didn't even get to test it >:|

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino

hyper-neutrino

16:02

ok let's not spam this too much :p but i assume you are using ZWSP?

caird coinheringaahing

Yep :P

hyper-neutrino

i just copied the source of your message and edited the number :P

pxeger

lol me too

Wasif

why text is invisible

caird coinheringaahing

Magic

user

16:03

@Wasif caird is practicing the dark arts

Wasif

lol

hyper-neutrino

TBH i use the "edit other messages" permission more to steal people's markdown formatting than to actually edit the message :P

Wezl

@Wasif while SE chat is broken, it still understands UTF-0

pxeger

@Wasif ~~that's what happens if you type your password in chat; SE censors it~~

caird coinheringaahing

@Wasif They have this character :P

@pxeger hunter2

Redwolf Programs

16:04

0/10 not a rickroll

caird coinheringaahing

Damn, didn't work :/

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing ??? I only see stars

ophact

There is a space here:did you see that?

Wasif

I see

ophact

blank message

Wezl

16:04

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...

2

1

Wasif

message

Redwolf Programs

^^

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger Oh man, have people already forgotten hunter2? :(

hyper-neutrino

in discord you can do _ _ to send a single normal space, italicized, which apparently does not count as a "blank message"

Wasif

err how to make it work

ophact

16:04

@Wezl Yeah, the place where @Rosie says strange stuff

Redwolf Programs

@hyper-neutrino An italicized space is for when you really want to emphasize how much nothing you feel

hyper-neutrino

Rosie a random chat bot, not to be confused with the CM

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing no, I haven't forgotten it?

hyper-neutrino

@RedwolfPrograms i would bold my spaces if i could to really send the point across

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Bolded, italic ZWSP are for real emphasis:

hyper-neutrino

16:06

you can also italicize emojis in discord which makes them small even if there's no other text in the message

it looks really cursed

@cairdcoinheringaahing wow, that nothing looks really emphasized

Redwolf Programs

🙂

caird coinheringaahing

I like ಠ_ಠ

Wasif

So much unicode black magic

caird coinheringaahing

And, for the most disapproval possible:

i.sstatic.net/qFaUr.png (no onebox)

Redwolf Programs

🙂

caird coinheringaahing

16:07

Oh crap, forgot it was that big

Redwolf Programs

Aw, not bold :/

pxeger

only caird would have that image to hand lol

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing ಠ_ಠ

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger It's one of my chat command shortcuts :P

pxeger

smh

New Posts

16:09

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Q: Print this matrix without embedding its values directly in the program

Print this matrix without embedding its values directly in the program: 1 8 9 16 2 7 10 15 3 6 11 14 4 5 12 13 Exact format does not matter as long as there is 4 lines and a separator between values.

hyper-neutrino

- codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/229413/68942

smalltalk answer to the smalltalk challenge

caird coinheringaahing

@NewPosts Not a bad challenge, but needs more details

ophact

@NewPosts and the IO format

Wasif

Python: `print('this matrix')`
Dosen't use those numbers at all

hyper-neutrino

unobservable requirement

ophact

16:11

print('this matrix without embedding its values directly in the program')

caird coinheringaahing

If it was "without digits" it would be observable, but not really interesting

hyper-neutrino

yeah

ophact

@Wasif -2 bytes by switching to python 2

hyper-neutrino

"print this number without numbers" is pretty old

Wasif

@ophact lol

golfing joke answer

ophact

16:11

CMC: Print "this number" without "number"s

This will be pretty easy frankly

hyper-neutrino

“çḲ@İY»

Wasif

@hyper-neutrino actually every joke is old

no new funny one

hyper-neutrino

i have the jelly string compressor bookmarked :P

DJMcMayhem

To clarify... print the string "this number" without the string "number" appearing in your source code?

ophact

Yes

Redwolf Programs

16:12

"this "+typeof 0

pxeger

@RedwolfPrograms genius

Wasif

awesome
But still i think 'number' is shorter?

DJMcMayhem

V or vim, 15 keystrokes iTHIS NUMBER<esc>Vu

hyper-neutrino

lol

caird coinheringaahing

@NewPosts Jelly, 10 bytes ⁴RsÆ½UÐeZG

ophact

16:13

@RedwolfPrograms Exactly the kind of answer I love

DJMcMayhem

14: ithis numbeR<c-o>~

user

@ophact Scala: print("this numbe"+"r")

ophact

It's a CMC, so no chance of downvotes ;)

DJMcMayhem

13: ithis numbe<c-v>r

Sandbox Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Print this matrix: 1 8 9 16 2 7 10 15 3 6 11 14 4 5 12 13 Exact format does not matter as long as each row is printed on a separate line and there is a separator between values.

Redwolf Programs

16:15

???

caird coinheringaahing

Someone's triggering it in the Sandbox

hyper-neutrino

→ 3 messages moved to Sandbox

redwolf...

Redwolf Programs

it should be designed to post in the room it was pinged in

DJMcMayhem

@cairdcoinheringaahing I saw "dialog" and thought this had something to do with APL at first and was very confused

hyper-neutrino

smh

Redwolf Programs

16:16

I'm going to go check the codez, brb

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem Blame hyper, I just took the question title :P

DJMcMayhem

Instead I'm going to blame my brain for not noticing the difference between dialog and dyalog

hyper-neutrino

I could make it "dialogue" :P

or modal. i think that's more accurate

pxeger

yes

British spelling supremacy

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem That's a levenshtein distance of 1, you can forgive your brain :P

ophact

16:17

no it's dialog

for me at least

caird coinheringaahing

No, it's dyealoggue

hyper-neutrino

this question has been deleted according to the revision history

ophact

diealog

pxeger

@ophact what do you mean by "for me"? You would instinctively spell it dialog?

ophact

Yes

caird coinheringaahing

16:18

@hyper-neutrino bug

pxeger

tbf, I would use "dialog" for "message box" and "dialogue" for "conversation"

hyper-neutrino

same

Redwolf Programs

@hyper-neutrino Try superpinging for status in the sandbox again

hyper-neutrino

works, it seems

Redwolf Programs

Huh. Not sure what was causing that before, then. Thanks!

hyper-neutrino

16:23

:P nice

DJMcMayhem

16:38

@cairdcoinheringaahing What do you call a group of APL superheros? The Dyaleague

9

user

@ophact Live a log, die a log.

pxeger

something something dye a log?

something something dial ogg?

New Posts

0

Q: Generate this number table

Given a number n (n>1) generate a table like below. For number 5, 1 2 3 4 5 2 2 3 4 5 3 3 3 4 5 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 For number 8, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 2 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 3 3 3 4 5 6 7 8 4 4 4 4 5 6 7 8 5 5 5 5 5 6 7 8 6 6 6 6 6 6 7 8 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 Shortest code wins! Trailing whitespa...

code-golf math

pxeger

@NewPosts @cairdcoinheringaahing I had to upvote for the FGITW :þ

caird coinheringaahing

2 days ago, by hyper-neutrino

i am speed

user

16:50

No you're not, you're caird, and you're on speed

Adám

@DJMcMayhem What do you call an APL newsletter? A DYALOGue.

hyper-neutrino

dammit i look away for 2 seconds and this happens

user

? What's wrong with puns?

hyper-neutrino

(the FGITW opportunity)

caird coinheringaahing

:P

StackMeter

16:53

I have a question about the binary ordering to ternary ordering question - given that the symbols are 0, 1, and 2, surely mapping a binary int to a ternary int is good?

caird coinheringaahing

No, that doesn't form a bijection

e.g. 00010 and 10 both give the same output when using base-conversion

pxeger

and it's not monotonic

Wasif

outgolfed by @Adám on my first serious APL answer

sighs

Redwolf Programs

How should comparisons between numbers and arrays work?

caird coinheringaahing

Wrap the number as [x] and lexicographically

hyper-neutrino

17:05

either that or vectorize (in this case, each on one side), depends on the situation

Wezl

vectorize.

Redwolf Programs

Well, in this case it's for a sort comparator so vectorizing isn't useful

user

Are you resuming work on Ash?

Redwolf Programs

No, a different (golfing?) language

It's extremely experimental

Adám

@Wasif APL functions have long right scope, so you can remove the right hand parenthesis.

Also, it isn't a tacit function. ⍵ is the argument, which is explicit.

Wasif

17:09

@Adám thanks! for the tip

Adám

37

Q: Tips for golfing in APL

I started one code golf challenge recently and it seems like the winner is GolfScript (surprise, surprise!). What's interesting is that there was another very strong competitor that had all chances to win over GolfScript. Its name is APL. I see a lot of answers written in APL here. It seems like ...

code-golf tips apl

Redwolf Programs

@user Why do you want access to my testing room lol

user

To star everything

Redwolf Programs

You can do that regardless

user

And commit eleven, of course

Oh ok

Wasif

17:10

@RedwolfPrograms where is your testing room?

Redwolf Programs

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/126249/…

caird coinheringaahing

Updated answer to FAQ post

user

Should a notice be added to the other answer?

caird coinheringaahing

Also, the entire FAQ could do with some cleaning up tbh. I'm updating the main index page atm, but faq posts should 1) be CW and 2) have [Return to FAQ index](https://codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/q/1280) at the bottom of each

user

Something like "Note: As of June 20th, 2018, CGCC has MathJax support. Please see this answer instead"

caird coinheringaahing

17:23

@user There's already a comment, but I think that so long as the top answer is the mathjax one, it should be alright

hyper-neutrino

I'll put that on my to-do list for my next meta edit flood

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Everyone upvote this

caird coinheringaahing

CWs don't bump, so if anyone wants some free flags, faq has them all :P

hyper-neutrino

wait they don't?

user

What do you mean by [tag:faq has them all?

caird coinheringaahing

17:25

"has [all the FAQ posts, about half of which aren't CW]"

@hyper-neutrino Converting to CW doesn't

I can do words good

hyper-neutrino

oh

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Yes word craft talent you acquired

hyper-neutrino

i thought you meant i could freely edit CWs without bumping them :(

StackMeter

@cairdcoinheringaahing ok, just append a 1 at the front of everything

caird coinheringaahing

@StackMeter That still doesn't form a bijection, nor is that monotonous

StackMeter

17:27

oh ok

hyper-neutrino

watched / ignored tags breaking is really annoying for me :/ i watch all the bug/FR and status-review/planned/deferred tags and ignore the status-everything else tags to help me only see what's relevant and now everything's just the same :c

caird coinheringaahing

Well, just added ~50% of the faq questions to the FAQ :P

hyper-neutrino

oh, i didn't do that when i added the faq tags to the previously proposed things, oops :/

Redwolf Programs

17:57

Should log_2 be rounded up or down for integers?

user

Truncated (so down)

Redwolf Programs

I went with up, seems like it'd be more useful

user

Are integers and doubles distinct types?

Redwolf Programs

It only has integers, it's more of a proof-of-concept language

hyper-neutrino

why is up more useful?

Redwolf Programs

18:04

The number of bits needed to represent an integer

hyper-neutrino

8 has 4 digits

Redwolf Programs

Oh yeah :|

user

Round down + 1?

hyper-neutrino

round down and +1

Redwolf Programs

Down it is

user

18:05

@hyper-neutrino :)

ophact

@Bubbler Could you add some of the common languages like JS or Python?

Redwolf Programs

There was a bit of discussion about that already

Just found an undiscovered bug in an obscure command in the Ash interpreter since I'm copying over some code from it lol

Wezl

I hate it when loops are shorter than $1 in $2

but especially when $2=sed

user

Unrelated, but here's another bad pickup line I found: Hey, are you my appendix? I don't know what you do or how you work but I feel like I should take you out.

Wezl

take out, lol

I first read that as a threat

user

18:18

Apr 27 at 12:59, by Redwolf Programs

Redwolf: What does 'take out' mean?
Lyxal: Food.
Razetime: Dating
caird: Murder
user: IT CAN MEAN ALL THREE IF YOU'RE NOT A COWARD.

@Wezl It is ;)

ophact

Any comment on the choice of users?

And I'm planning to build my own TIO like website but with more options and which supports PPL.

caird coinheringaahing

@ophact I 100% do not murder people. Not at all, no sir

user

What's PPL? Is it the thing that involved users as commands?

@ophact Blame Redwolf and the generator for that

ophact

@user It's that language I made. Remember that one? Where you can just mash together a bunch of tokens and it's valid syntax, and also the one which we argued over whether it's Turing-complete

user

Oh ok

Here's another cheesy pickup line

Wezl

18:54

do we allow input by insertion for languages that can take input?

caird coinheringaahing

No

hyper-neutrino

the main point in allowing typically banned input methods is because we don't want to restrict languages from participating. input methods like these are usually banned to prevent exploiting certain mechanisms around it, which a language that can't even take input is highly unlikely to really be able to do

user

19:58

@Bubbler Can you attach a debugger to an interpreter running server-side, and then use that to only execute one thing at a time?

Using jdb or something for the JVM would allow people to run a bunch of languages with JVM backends, even if performance would take a hit because of the debugger

TIL TIO has a Twitter account

caird coinheringaahing

20:38

The title does not give away anything offensive: correctly-predict-thermodynamic-systems

Which is weird, most R/A flag-worthy posts don't have a (somewhat) ontopic title

hyper-neutrino

Yeah, it's just an image. The question is VLQ without the image and then it's just straight up a porn screenshot. Wasn't caught by SD for that reason.

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