The Nineteenth Byte

Unrelated String

00:00

i'm kind of afraid of the very idea of a jelly codebase

lyxal

auto-challenge generation is surprisingly not good

Unrelated String

i guess you can use python eval to split things up across files some way or another

user

Linting and autocompletion would be a mess

caird coinheringaahing

@UnrelatedString I've written projects in Jelly

Not professional ones, but also not not professional ones

4

My old job had some curve fitting algorithm they wanted me to rewrite, and I couldn't be bothered to use Python, so I just wrote a Jelly script to do it and changed their system to call that instead of the Python program

Their old algorithm is still there, it's just not as good as my Jelly one :P

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino @RedwolfPrograms @UnrelatedString okay we finally have a consensus on the funniness of that message

hyper-neutrino: it's not funny enough to be funny
Redwolf Programs: It's not funny, but in a funny sort of way
hyper-neutrino: it's not funny enough to be very funny
Unrelated String: and since it isn't about me i don't think i'll remember it
Redwolf Programs: I think that one is the funniest one so far. It's also the only one that doesn't make me laugh. I'm going to go with "not very" on this one.

(<insert standard GPT-3 disclaimer>)

rak1507

00:13

@cairdcoinheringaahing lmao brilliant

OldSandboxPosts

01:00

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Convert Lambda Calculus to SKI-notation, (untitled), Ambigious Chemical Formula

hyper-neutrino

01:18

I missed a lot.

Redwolf Programs

And probably got some pings that required a lot of context lol

hyper-neutrino

Yeah well the first ping I got was yours about Bubbler, and my only comment is that any crush on me is an unhealthy one. It's okay Bubbler, I'm here if you ever need to talk about it.

Code Golf Stack Exchange

@lyxal Comedy, but I didn't laugh.

Redwolf Programs

@lyxal That's insanely representative of our writing styles, too

It got the lowercase is for HN

and the things I say are very close to how I actually phrase things

Wasif

hi everyone

hyper-neutrino

01:23

also yeah what's with the AI and making Bubbler say the absolute dumbest and least representative things xD

Code Golf Stack Exchange

I just left Inbox Checkup. Morning.

Wasif

@OldSandboxPosts isn't Ambigous formula challenge posted?

@CodeGolfStackExchange how are you getting so much unread messages?

Redwolf Programs

I've never understood people who put YT at the end of their username on YouTube

Wasif

does anyone know any other esolangs or programming language which use infinite precision arithmetic (i.e. fractions) except M?

Redwolf Programs

I'm sure there's quite a few, my next golfing language will for sure

Wasif

01:27

@RedwolfPrograms is your next golfing language Ash or something else

Redwolf Programs

Something else

Code Golf Stack Exchange

@Wasif Simple. I resist to read them.

Also, my connection's a bit bad.

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms but it makes the channel name 100% better! lyxalYT is much better than just lyxal \s

@hyper-neutrino there's a reason there's a disclaimer. Perhaps it's trying to write TNB fan-fic

Wasif

acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/YT YT has 18 more acronyms

hyper-neutrino

@lyxal someone here should totally write TNB fanfic. it'll definitely go well

Code Golf Stack Exchange

01:31

@Wasif Simple. I resist to read them.

Also, my internet connection is a bit bad, so my messages could get delayed.

lyxal

@Wasif vyxal (soonish™)

I'll put that into my planned experiment branch

Code Golf Stack Exchange

@lyxal Have you seen my ping for you in Inbox Checkup?

Wasif

@lyxal yeah it will be nice to use sympy

lyxal

@CodeGolfStackExchange yes

Code Golf Stack Exchange

Cool, I've been mentioned.

Redwolf Programs

01:33

Imagine using a pre-existing library for that lol

lyxal

@Wasif it will also be nice to have postfix operators

Code Golf Stack Exchange

I will leave now. I'm doing some golfing.

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms imagine being redwolf. Made by everyone else gang

DLosc

Hey, everyone: I made a Piet encoding! :D

If you think it's a good way to score Piet programs, please vote this up.

Wasif

@lyxal we already have them dont we

hyper-neutrino

01:34

no i don't think so

does vyxal have any operators really?

or does everything require a function object and working with that on the stack?

Wasif

err I see everything is function

which pops values from the stack

looking at the source code

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino not yet

That's going to be part of my experimental branch

Or experimental fork if that makes more sense

DLosc

@Wasif My toy language Zephyr has fractions. (Actually, it doesn't have floating point!)

Also I think a lot of Lisp dialects have a built-in fraction type.

Wasif

@DLosc oo nice i will definitely take a look

Wezl

01:50

@DLosc yes, and scheme

Wasif

02:00

how do you concatenate strings in Zephyr?

oh sorry looks like + works

Code Golf Stack Exchange

I did some golfing from a recent question.

I'm doing better now, I guess.

Wasif

@CodeGolfStackExchange yeah you are improving

A username

02:19

@user Idk

I'd forgotten about this
> Redwolf Programs: If SQL were a food, it would be socks with sandals

user

I think that's something Redwolf actually said

A username

02:35

Yes

@lyxal Can we have a is_palindrome builtin for Vyxal?

hyper-neutrino

an invariant-under operator would probably be a more applicable and better idea

though having a shorter is-palindrome might be nice too

A username

Wdym "an invariant-under operator"?

hyper-neutrino

given a function f and a value x, is x = f(x)

A username

Sure, i guess.

hyper-neutrino

it's quite useful IMO

A username

02:40

Also we have all the brackets except <>.

Currently the shortest I've got for is_palindrome is 12 bytes

@hyper-neutrino Caird will be happy you fixed their name.

lyxal

@Ausername Ḃ=

hyper-neutrino

~~Ḃ⁼~~ dammit

A username

slaps face

hyper-neutrino

got ninja'd because i am slow at looking things up

A username

I did not know about Ḃ. I've only used about a third of the characters in the codepage (aside from compression) :P

Wasif

02:48

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/106764/vyxal please help me in this vyxal problem

Wasif

03:13

Number of vyxal answers are increasing now we have 26 pages of answers with it, it is quite nice

Razetime

@Wasif did you finish it??

hyper-neutrino

vyxal is taking over

Wasif

@Razetime nope

the code has already reached 40 bytes

Razetime

send the code again there

and next time give a permalink to your message

Redwolf Programs

The startboard was entirely yellow for me this morning, but is now entirely black

Fixed :p

Considering making my own completely custom chat client once I finish my library (I'll make separate node and browser ones)

Wasif

03:39

How can this python 100 byter be more shorter? pls help

hyper-neutrino

using an array of lines is probably shorter

Wasif

@hyper-neutrino okay i'll give a try

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino as planned

Wasif

@hyper-neutrino thx for the tip! reduced 16 bytes!!!!

hyper-neutrino

when i switched over to FF from chrome, i did it for privacy considerations

didn't think i'd actually end up liking FF more just on its own without considering that lol

Redwolf Programs

03:57

What sort of stuff makes it better?

At least from a compatibility standpoint I consider chrome and FF to be equals, but that's about all the experience I have with it

hyper-neutrino

i like the styling better lol. specifically the tabs

Redwolf Programs

You got the weird caching issues resolved?

hyper-neutrino

think so... still don't know what happened there

i still have privacy badger running

but i haven't noticed any weirdness

Redwolf Programs

I'd consider switching over, but it's a bit slow (and ironic) on a chromebook

I'm planning on gradually switching over to my new laptop when it arrives, and using that as my main school laptop, so FF may be a viable option in a month or so for me

hyper-neutrino

nice

Razetime

04:39

after i posted my stax answer, this question now has an answer for every single digits number

Wasif

It is one of the fastest growing challenge

user

Time to bring it into triple digits answers using java

Razetime

yeah very simple and somehow not done before

Wasif

there are lot of simple challenges which have not been done before yet

user

@hyper-neutrino If you’re talking about the proton redesign you can disabje that

Underslash

04:44

@user oh yeah I toggled that as soon as I could*

user

@Wasif they grow dewer in number every day

Wasif

@user fewer?

or really dewer?

user

Fewer sorry

Wasif

ok no problem

sorry

wrote proble

user

I think browser,proton,enabled is the only change you need (toggle off

Underslash

04:47

what are some simple challenges that haven't been done?

Redwolf Programs

If I could answer that I'd be posting them now :p

Code Golf Stack Exchange

It rained minutes ago here.

Redwolf Programs

Same

Code Golf Stack Exchange

And the internet connection's doing better now.

user

Matrix multiplication maybe?

Underslash

04:48

that hasn't been done?

Wasif

???

It has been done: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/100205/…

user

@Underslash probly yes. Nvm

Code Golf Stack Exchange

?kcabdeef ynA

user

Surprisingly few answers

Wasif

Maybe determinant of matrix?

Or nature of the roots of a quadratic equation?

user

04:50

Probably dine too actually

Underslash

determinant would be cool, but i think its already done

Code Golf Stack Exchange

@CodeGolfStackExchange I didn't copy-paste the reverse text.

I might make a challenge for string reversing, unless one already exists.

Razetime

@user bans builtins

matrix multiplication is a long boring nested loop

user

Grrrr

Underslash

@CodeGolfStackExchange I have to say, that does seem very similar to codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/49850/metascii-code-golf that Adam linked

Wasif

04:52

@Razetime its just a single line with numpy

Razetime

using numpy is lame

Underslash

what are the significant code differences between yours and that other one?

Razetime

esp for something as simple as matrix multiplication

Underslash

@Wasif no built ins perhaps?

user

^^^^ ^^Im not sure how interesting itd be

Wasif

04:53

@Underslash IDK if builtins have been disallowed

Underslash

hopefully so for anything is a single operation type thing

Code Golf Stack Exchange

@Underslash True. So should it be posted or not? It's kolmogorov-complexity, so it's just a string output challenge, after I scrapped the input bit.

Underslash

Well, the problem is that I think it would just be a simple "logic translation" from that challenge to yours if you get what I mean

so if there was a good formula for that one, it most likely would work exactly the same for yours

Code Golf Stack Exchange

I will make it "challenge scrapped" if it's no longer a suitable challenge. It has a score of 1 though, so I'm not sure yet.

Underslash

im just afraid if you post it, it will get marked as a dupe

Code Golf Stack Exchange

05:00

"Challenge scrapped" it is, unless it's not the final feedback.

I would need more reviews just to make sure.

Underslash

yeah, ig just wait a day or so and see if anyone else comments

Underslash

05:19

codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/18281/99035 despite the problems with this, it seems like a good idea for a challenge

Sandbox Posts

06:11

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

These letters are boring. Take them away! Let's assign a string, it can be anything. I'll use Hello, Code Golf Stack Exchange! for demonstration. In this challenge, write a program that takes a string as input, then takes input of the characters you want to remove in the string. To terminate the ...

Code Golf Stack Exchange

As a celebration of 100 reputation, I posted this on the sandbox to actually try and get a challenge.

caird coinheringaahing

06:48

@Wasif Already done, both of them by me :P

Wasif

Outgolfed all python answers after nearly a decade

@cairdcoinheringaahing sighs

caird coinheringaahing

@Ausername Wait, what about my name?

lyxal

07:25

I am personally starting to think that maybe, just maybe, introducing GPT-3 to code golf was a bad idea.

because it is kinda a bit spooky in it's latest results

I put in a list of everyone currently in TNB

and uh

unless the AI somehow has met with Caird in person,

it managed to generate Caird's irl name

I mean sure, it has some stupid things like Dictator of the United States

but combined with the accuracy of some of it's earlier suggestions, I think there might be a few too many coincidences to not be sentient

;p

Also, looking for a new golfing language name?

Here's a list!

Beacon
Geom
Hex
Raleway
IcoMoon
Felipa

Wasif

@lyxal they are really good

I would take one of them randomly

How did you got them?

lyxal

@Wasif where do you think?

also, some more:

Lobster
Cantarell
Meslo
Kreon

Unrelated String

meslo has a nice ring to it

lyxal

@Wasif I got them from my good friend GPT-3

I took the top golfing language names as a prompt and pressed "generate"

Unrelated String

been vaguely considering some kind of machine learning based language (ignoring the question of fucking how) and if i ever actually try it meslo would absolutely be a name candidate

John Dvorak

07:38

Kreon would be a nice alternative to krita

Razetime

@lyxal lmao

these are all font names

@UnrelatedString open source menlo monospace font

Unrelated String

there;s also the issue of menlo everything else

which is probably why meslo has that ring to it

lyxal

@Razetime yeah, i figured that much

It started fixating on other font names after a while

Unrelated String

lmao

lyxal

As yall can tell I'm having way too much fun with this

Stack Exchange

08:00

I look different. I can't change my name for a month. :(

As always, my internet connection is still bad.

CMC: Golf your sentences when speaking. Shorten it as much as possible.

Unrelated String

k

Stack Exchange

I lik dis. May'not. (I like this. Maybe not.)

lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms @hyper-neutrino @Ausername @user I reran the "war" conversation in GPT-3. Here's a way funnier version than originally (disclaimer: I used the GPT-3 text generation model provided by OpenAI to generate text. There is a line in the linked gist that tells you where the AI takes over the conversation. Consequently, the text present is not representative of the opinions of the respective users)

> user: We can build our own virtual machine in APL and run Haskell on it!

that's all I'll say about it

Stack Exchange

@lyxal Will you do this? It's okay if you won't.

Razetime

@lyxal yes this is a very user like statement

lyxal

08:07

@StackExchange yes I'll golf

Stack Exchange

K.

Wasif

@StackExchange -1 byte: K

Stack Exchange

Thx

Wasif

:P

Stack Exchange

I'sho'prob'my'howo'now (I should probably do my homework now.)

An'simp'chals? (Any simple challenges?)

Wasif

08:19

@StackExchange if hd 1cud hv postd myslf

Stack Exchange

@Wasif ?

Wasif

@StackExchange If anyone has got a simple challenge they could have posted it themselves (Not golfed, non competing)

Stack Exchange

A,k (Ah. Okay.)

Neil

time to sit back and watch the clone answers roll in

Wasif

"clone answers" ???

Stack Exchange

08:24

Lmtd'ed (Limited edition.)

Wasif

why removed?

Stack Exchange

lol

Stack Exchange

08:52

CMC ended.

@StackExchange My costume library.

caird coinheringaahing

10:06

@lyxal Yes, I am the Dictator of the United States, this is freaky

8

→ 1 message moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

pxeger

@lyxal frick is already pretty unnice. He was a Nazi politician

@lyxal several of those are the names of existing fonts for some reason

@lyxal how did you get access to GPT-3?

Neil

huh, 11 upvotes ago my rep was 123,456

pxeger

10:23

mildly interesting

Sandbox Posts

10:34

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Gimme gimme gimee a man after midnight code-golf kolmogorov-complexity date The man-db implementation of the Unix man command has an easter egg: if it is run at 00:30, it prints the message gimme gimee gimee, in a reference to the ABBA song Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight). Your task i...

lyxal

11:12

@pxeger easy, I went to the openai site on the 29th of April, joined the wait list and created my account when I got accepted into the private beta yesterday

I mean, the fact that I used my uni email might have potentially sped up the waiting time but I don't know for sure

pxeger

11:56

The website currently just says "request access" in a way that strongly implies you need some kind of good reason to use it

I was surprised they let you use it tbh, that's all

caird coinheringaahing

12:07

If TNB shitposting isn't a good enough reason, then I don't know what is

user

12:42

^

@Razetime Building a VM with APL and running Haskell on it really does sound like a fun project

lyxal

@pxeger social media text generation was one of the usage options iirc

"content" generation

pxeger

I suppose Elon Musk is a bit of a memelord

lyxal

And there's an option to say that you just want to explore the ai playground

pxeger

13:06

oh

lyxal

share.hsforms.com/1Lfc7WtPLRk2ppXhPjcYY-A4sk30

user

14:28

@lyxal Sorry for the ping, but if you can try out GPT again, can you run it on the incorrect quotes you generated before?

Redwolf Programs

@lyxal This one is definitely much funnier

user

user: Plants have feelings too?! What is this? Now I can't have food!
lyxal: You can eat a rock.
Redwolf: Air.
caird: The fabric of time and space.
pxeger: Chugging a bottle of bleach can solve all your problems.
user: You guys are not helpful.

Razetime: Change is inedible.
pxeger: Don’t you mean inevitable?
Razetime, spitting out a bunch of pennies: No, I really didn’t.

That ruins the lunch I had planned today :/

StackMeter

15:13

Bruh

what is this

I come in and this is what I see

user

@StackMeter Generated using this

Neil

15:39

bah, I had a glaring error in my code that caused it to never produce any output, and nobody noticed, but I still got 7 upvotes

user

Was it a Charcoal or Retina answer?

hyper-neutrino

is it your S-combinator halting sub?

caird coinheringaahing

17:24

@user Not a fan of pennies for lunch?

hyper-neutrino

i wonder what other countries pennies no longer exist in

cuz canada doesn't technically circulate pennies anymore

caird coinheringaahing

- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_of_low-denomination_coins

hyper-neutrino

ah nice

caird coinheringaahing

> Decimal halfpennies can be paid into bank accounts at discretion of commercial banks

So, do british halfpennies still exist? Wow

hyper-neutrino

wait halfpennies are a thing? lol

also yeah rounding to an odd number is very nice because you never get any ambiguity

caird coinheringaahing

17:30

@hyper-neutrino They stopped making them in 1984, but I guess there are some still around

hyper-neutrino

h u h. that's cool

pxeger

Literally 1984

caird coinheringaahing

So Vietname no longer has the 5,000 đồng. Just some context for:

> Formerly, [the đồng] was subdivided into 10 hào, which were further subdivided into 10 xu, neither of which are now used.

hyper-neutrino

apparently there is a chat room hosted on chat.math.stackexchange.com, or so i've heard

caird coinheringaahing

For reference, 1 xu is worth ~4.33e-7 USD = ~0.0000433 cents

hyper-neutrino

17:35

even though that domain 404s, supposedly there's a room there?

caird coinheringaahing

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/17097/mathematics

Neil

@user Charcoal

@hyper-neutrino yeah, I had a greater instead of a less comparison

hyper-neutrino

this room is on that network which caused the previous room to freeze, which is why there were over a thousand days between two messages without any freezing. lol. strange

@cairdcoinheringaahing wow that is... a small unit lol

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Not anymore. it seems as tho SE has (silently) wiped the chat.math.stackexchange domain

hyper-neutrino

CMP are prefix or postfix operators better (operators, not functions, so for example, should map be <each><monad> or <monad><each>)?

caird coinheringaahing

17:38

Postfix

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing hm. okay. because apparently the old mathematics room was never freezing because it was the only room on that domain but then someone created a new one on that domain

supposedly (and this was discussed on public meta so i'm fine to write it here) you can just overwrite relevant html fields and create a room on a network even if it doesn't really exist??? idk the details

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino for map and other things with a block/function argument, postfix

pxeger

17:53

@hyper-neutrino there are no extant rooms upto ID 500, at least

hyper-neutrino

hm. well idk just saw somewhere that apparently there's a room that doesn't freeze and it's due to being the last one on its domain, until someone made a new one

New Posts

18:07

0

Q: iHateOddNumbers

Task Given a non-negative number, check if it's odd or even. In case it's even, output that number. Otherwise, throw any exception/error that your language supports, and stop the program. Example with Python Input: 1 Output: Traceback (most recent call last): File ".code.tio", line 1, in <module>...

user

18:20

@cairdcoinheringaahing Not really, I gain too many pounds after eating them :P

caird coinheringaahing

@NewPosts @hyper-neutrino I found a really nice outgolf in Jelly :D

hyper-neutrino

o

M doesn't auto-range?????

that's a very useful trick, thank you

caird coinheringaahing

Auto-range would be useless (it'd just be an idenity). It should auto-digit tho

Z is another one that errors on all integers

hyper-neutrino

interesting

I am just very surprised how these golfing languages already have prebuilt tools for basically anything. — LeopardL GD 4 mins ago

well, that is why they're golfy after all xD

although for this challenge i would argue that both of our solutions, especially yours, do not really use prebuilt tools for this challenge but rather use strange workarounds

i should get a list of all possible ways to runtime error in jelly lol

caird coinheringaahing

Z erroring on integers has been an old trick for challenges that ask for errors in specific cases

hyper-neutrino

18:33

huh. i've always used X. which is usually significantly less golfy

caird coinheringaahing

This is a really impressive Desmos answer

caird coinheringaahing

18:50

@hyper-neutrino MTZz always error on integers. X errors on strings/negatives. Quicks always error if they don't have enough preceding links. Ɠ errors if eval fails on the STDIN line. Ɠɠ both error if there's no more STDIN, ¡ and # both error if there is no more STDIN assuming they only have 1 link. G fails if the argument has both a list and an integer at the same depth (e.g. [1, [1]]). y fails if passed a list with an odd-length. b fails if the right argument is complex

Those are just the single byte atoms, cba to do the 2 byte ones :P

hyper-neutrino

oh wow, thanks lol :P

caird coinheringaahing

Interestingly, ḃ does not fail if the right argument is complex: Try it online!

hyper-neutrino

... interesting

StackMeter

@cairdcoinheringaahing 4.33 * 10^-7 cents: that's nothing

I could hold a penny in my hand and be a millionare in terms of that level of currency

caird coinheringaahing

No :P You could have 1m VND, but that doesn't really mean much

1m VND is roughly 40 USD

hyper-neutrino

18:54

1m xu isn't exactly "millionaire"

that's like saying having 10k is "millionaire" because you have 1m cents

caird coinheringaahing

1m xu = 10k đồng = 0.43 USD

user

Oh wow, that's a lot of inflation

caird coinheringaahing

> The Vietnamese đồng is currently the third weakest circulating currency as of May 2021

On the bright side, it could be worse

user

You just jinxed Vietnam :/

caird coinheringaahing

Well, they have to beat Venezuela. 1 USD = 23112.04 VND. 1 USD = 1,552,540 VES (Venezuelan Bolívar)

user

18:59

o.O

StackMeter

@cairdcoinheringaahing yep

caird coinheringaahing

So with a single dollar, you too can be a millionaire*
*Offer limited to certain countries

StackMeter

@cairdcoinheringaahing so a dollar is a "millionaire" in Venezuela

Imagine that - "I was a millionaire - then I doubled my money. Now I have $2"

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Nice, so I can be a thousandaire in Venezuela!

caird coinheringaahing

I suppose you could make a goal out of it: "How high up the 'currencies by strength' ladder can you go while still being a 'miilionaire'?"

Like, if you have $1, you're on the 'bottom rung'. Then at $4 you reach "millionaire" in Iran (1USD = 230,000IRR). Then, you need $40 to go one higher and so on

user

19:04

I sense a challenge coming :)

caird coinheringaahing

Maybe. But, for now, this is a list of "In order to be a 'millionaire' in the 10 weakest economies, you need this much USD" (according to this article)

e.g. to be a 'millionaire' in Uzbekistan, you need $97.71

rak1507

fun fact: 'xu' is a valid word in scrabble, much to my opponents dismay

user

Are you a Scrabble fan?

rak1507

somewhat

Anush

19:47

What is the fastest way to sort a million 64 bit integers? I am using C's qsort but would love something faster

pxeger

Radix sort?

Can you parallelise it?

And why do you keep needing so many optimised data structures and algorithms in C?

John Dvorak

if you know the range and it's uniform enough, def radix sort

Anush

@pxeger that sounds harder but maybe

pxeger

@Anush if you use merge sort it makes reasonable sense to parallelise

But it's maybe not worth it for only 1 million

("only")

Anush

@pxeger interesting. Surely this must be a standard question

pxeger

19:52

Yeah, I was considering sandboxing it a while ago

Anush

@pxeger I keep modifying the values

pxeger

1

Q: Write a radix sort

Goal As the title suggests, write a radix sort function (either MSB or LSB is fine) that accepts two parameters: an array of values of any type (you can assume that they are all of the same type / class, etc.) a function (or function pointer, depending on your language) that takes a single par...

code-golf sorting

Anush

@pxeger I was wondering that

I need fastest-code :)

@JohnDvorak thanks

@pxeger because I can't use Julia at work :)

pxeger

My solution would be to find a way to use Julia, not to write a whole load of bespoke C code :þ

Anush

I wonder which language has the fastest sort for 64 bit ints in its standard library

@pxeger :) that would mean a different job sadly

pxeger

19:58

@Anush Python obviously :þ

Anush

Hmmm.. can I ask a CMC to time the sorting of a million int in your languages stdlib?

@pxeger clearly :)

hyper-neutrino

you'll need to specify a permutation to sort in that case

Anush

@hyper-neutrino hmm... How on Earth to specify it?

Would random do?

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