The Nineteenth Byte

6:00 PM

It's been done with ZWSPs or RTL overrides, but I am fairly confident that it is impossible without cheating

can get 7 bytes on my new challenge with yuno (though language features postdate challenge). could be shorter if i went with some more obscure built-ins but i've added those to the feature wishlist; first of all adding them would be pretty blatant loophole abuse (whereas the ones i just added are pretty normal to have in any esolang), and second of all i don't want to waste bytes on them yet

Redwolf Programs

Is yuno intended to be a golfing language?

hyper-neutrino

yes

Adám

How do you drive a TNBer to madness? Ask them to write `\ as inline code.

caird coinheringaahing

Not only does it have an SBCS, but also multi-character bytes :P

Redwolf Programs

6:04 PM

I have some really unique ideas for a golfing language but I'm keeping them a secret for now :p

hyper-neutrino

i should add an xxd to my template generator to avoid confusion as to how ッシュフェドゥッキッコ；テ is 7 bytes

rak1507

@hyper-neutrino you what

ugh, can't golfing langs at least try to have mnemonic things

husk does that really well

caird coinheringaahing

Jelly's pretty good at that

Redwolf Programs

Just got a notification that Luigi is angry. Not going to click for context, Luigi is just angry.

rak1507

@cairdcoinheringaahing ½

caird coinheringaahing

6:07 PM

H

rak1507

½ being square root is evil

hyper-neutrino

@rak1507 ッシュ is "sshu" which i remember as sublists because "su" and "ssu" are taken up for split and split-by-sublist already

caird coinheringaahing

@rak1507 Square root is raising to the power ½

hyper-neutrino

フェ is "fe" which is similar to フィ ("fi") which is filter (i think that makes sense); it's just the filter-lambda shortcut

rak1507

@hyper-neutrino well it's no surprise you can read your own language :P

hyper-neutrino

6:08 PM

@rak1507 i'd say it is a surprise :P

rak1507

@cairdcoinheringaahing if only there was a symbol for square root

hyper-neutrino

soon i won't be able to

once i have actual builtins

@rak1507 jelly is typable though

on... some keyboard layout

rak1507

oh wait, there is √

hyper-neutrino

i think it was US INTL that jelly was made for. you can type it on that keyboard layout. i don't think sqrt is on that

Matthew Daniels

so you guys still don't have MathJax on comments?

hyper-neutrino

6:09 PM

i think we do

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah we do

hyper-neutrino

\$ stuff \$

unless you meant chat. then no. chat doesn't have anything. if a feature exists, chat doesn't have it.

caird coinheringaahing

$$ stuff $$ works as well

@hyper-neutrino Chat still doesn't have the ability to post answers, disgraceful

Wezl

@rak1507 lol thought that was sarcasm

Redwolf Programs

@hyper-neutrino Not true, chat has...umm...caching!

Lots of caching!

rak1507

6:11 PM

@Wezl it was

Matthew Daniels

@Redwolf lmao

rak1507

I was pointing out how stupid and dumb jelly is

Redwolf Programs

@MatthewDaniels You can hit tab when the name pops up to fill in the rest (not that there are any other redwolves here :p)

caird coinheringaahing

@rak1507 That's not typeable on US INTL

Matthew Daniels

so chat has no talking. I'm out of here! ):<

rak1507

6:12 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing who cares

redwolf10105

@RedwolfPrograms Bet

rak1507

not me

caird coinheringaahing

@Red or you can just use the first 3 letters :P

Matthew Daniels

lmao

redwolf10105

That pinged both of us lol

caird coinheringaahing

6:12 PM

@rak1507 Every other character in Jelly's code page is

rak1507

I don't think that really matters

Matthew Daniels

sorry. I prefer saying one's name using first words.

caird coinheringaahing

Dennis can (apparently) type out Jelly answers, rather than use copy-paste

Wezl

readability is more important than writability because I don't write jelly :P

rak1507

dennis can probably cast jelly answers directly from his mind on to the page

Redwolf Programs

6:13 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing So can I

I have US EXTD

hyper-neutrino

@redwolf10105 your parent is SO apparently, but clicking the link 404s. do you actually exist? :P

Redwolf Programs

Similar to INTL but without the annoying quotes -> diacritics thing

caird coinheringaahing

@rak1507 That's in Dennis v2.0

redwolf10105

@hyper-neutrino I think my SO account was deleted for sockpuppeting like four years ago

Wezl

CMQ: What does US EXTD stand for? (other than United States Extended)

Redwolf Programs

6:14 PM

Extra X-rays To Die

hyper-neutrino

United States EXtraTerrestrial Defense

rak1507

@Wezl united states extreme torture department

caird coinheringaahing

US EXTra Dice

Redwolf Programs

Electric Xylophones Taste Delicious

caird coinheringaahing

For when the US has to lend its dice out during DnD games :P

Matthew Daniels

6:15 PM

United States of EXTreme Destruction. lmao

hyper-neutrino

@redwolf10105 oh rip. wait so then a normal user can't even find you then other than just guessing which sites you have an account on? :P

redwolf10105

@hyper-neutrino I guess so :p

I'm kinda glad it got deleted, my old questions were awful

caird coinheringaahing

Oh cool, I hit 2k on MM :P

Redwolf Programs

Nice!

hyper-neutrino

congrats :D

redwolf10105

6:17 PM

I was super stealthy when I sockpuppeted, I actually commented under one of the posts "oh wow, there's two redwolfs here!"

caird coinheringaahing

I can now edit things without approval, which I'm not so sure about :P

hyper-neutrino

@redwolf10105 *slow clap* :P lmao

it's weird that your profile still has SO as its parent lol

Redwolf Programs

It even has my old reputation and badges

This is the weird thing

It's an SO account in the same name

hyper-neutrino

wait pardon my stupidity. i thought 10105 was another user who just happened to have the same "redwolf" name as you by coincidence

Redwolf Programs

Maybe my account got yeeted and I re-associated it with SO?

@hyper-neutrino You didn't notice the lowercase :p? :p

hyper-neutrino

6:22 PM

i wonder what happens if a user whose parent account doesn't exist gets network suspended. would it suspend from chat as expected, or would it not, since its parent doesn't get suspended, lol

@RedwolfPrograms bold of you to assume i am observant enough to notice anything :p

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino guys hn's Redwolf's sock

see the :p, it's proof

Redwolf Programs

I'm actually HN's sock

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing omg caird is a sock of redwolf he said :p

Redwolf Programs

The hivemind is a sock of me, and I'm a sock of HN

But HN is in the hivemind

It's a perfectly sensible balance of power

user

Wait what

Redwolf Programs

6:26 PM

Quite so!

user

If HN is inside one of their socks, the hivemind, isn't the hivemind the original? Isn't HN the sock?

Redwolf Programs

No, because the hivemind is an indirect sock of HN

hyper-neutrino

no, the original is my now-deleted account. it all started from that instance

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing angry GitLab noises

@hyper-neutrino Ok, that makes more sense

But how was that instance created? Why is there something when there could be nothing?

Redwolf Programs

Why would there be nothing when there could be something?

hyper-neutrino

6:29 PM

it wasn't created; neutrinos are everywhere, but one happened to interact with matter and its energy signature produced a massive anomaly here

user

@RedwolfPrograms But there couldn't be something if there wasn't something already

hyper-neutrino

citation needed

user

Why did the ~~Big Bang~~ HyperNeutrino happen?

hyper-neutrino

i ask myself that every day

Redwolf Programs

pxeger

6:33 PM

quality diagram

Redwolf Programs

I also got the arrow directions mixed up halfway through lol

pxeger

BTW I can confirm that I am also naught but a sock of the hivemind

Wezl

are the arrows a -> is a sock of -> b?

Redwolf Programs

They get mixed up halfway through, working on a better diagram right now

pxeger

No. That diagram is perfect. The hivemind is above logical consistency anyway

user

6:38 PM

The hivemind works in mysterious ways. Just stop trying to comprehend it and have faith in it

Wezl

apparently one does not simply download webkit source code

I'm at 400MB 67%, with git clone --depth=1

pxeger

oh boy, there's nothing better than diving down a rabbit hole of trying to download and compile a very large open source project

Once it's downloaded, you'll have fun getting it to build

Wezl

only building javascript

user

You use Arch, right?

Wezl

because TCO

pxeger

6:40 PM

Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to build the Swift compiler BTW. You will start a thermonuclear war

@user I do, yes

user

@pxeger ~~What if that's exactly what I want? ;)~~

Get rid of all the Apple people in one fell swoop

Wezl

Receiving objects: 100% (322234/322234), 1014.42 MiB | 4.06 MiB/s, done.

hyper-neutrino

so the image above is transparent with black arrows which apparently my userscript doesn't like

pxeger

@user I wonder if corporate genocide would have a net positive or negative impact on the world. ~~well there's only one way to find out~~

caird coinheringaahing

What do you mean when you say "corporate genocide"?

I can think of two different meanings, one of which is decidedly negative

pxeger

6:43 PM

"get rid of all the Apple people in one fell swoop"

I suppose you could interpret it as genocide committed by companies. But that already happens regularly

Redwolf Programs

Updated

Arrows show sockpuppetry or flow of energy in the ecosystem

pxeger

lmao

Wezl

@Wezl ^C'd because I forgot I can get the .tar.bz2 instead of getting the revision history

pxeger

Now: Suggest the possible impacts on the ecosystem if wezl suddenly went extinct? (3 marks)

9

Wezl

wezl does not live as you may be assuming

Redwolf Programs

6:47 PM

There'd be more rabbits and thus more secondary consumers and thus more other users, which grows the hivemind despite it shrinking temporarily from wezl's extinction. The increased hivemind size means there is more insurance and more cookies.

user

@hyper-neutrino That's odd, all I see is the link ` i.stack.imgur.com/OuSGs.png`. No image

Wezl

@RedwolfPrograms but the ones in our farms would die

user

@RedwolfPrograms Hmm, this sounds really nice. takes out knife Wezl, you there?

Wezl

nope

Redwolf Programs

The number of hyper-neutrinos could also go up

Wezl

6:49 PM

solid knives will do you no good

hyper-neutrino

@user userscript

user

I like the implication that the only green plants that exist are grasses and shrubs only animals that eat them are Wezls and rabbits

pxeger

@RedwolfPrograms Fool! There can only be one hyper-neutrino!

user

@Wezl What are you?

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Judgement KoTH In this king-of-the-hill challenge, you will be making a Python 3 bot to play the card game judgement! Rules Judgement is a hand based game similar to games like rummy. In each round, cards are dealt to each player, a trump suit is chosen (there are rounds with no trump suit as wel...

hyper-neutrino

6:50 PM

@RedwolfPrograms there are at least two other instances of the hyper-neutrino AI that exist, being my chat bot and my testing sock

user

@pxeger There can only be different flavors of hyper-neutrino

Wezl

@user ~~joking~~

user

ಠ_ಠ

hyper-neutrino

tau-neutrino already exists, now we just need electron-neutrino and muon-neutrino

Redwolf Programs

The hivemind is indirectly run by rabbits

and a tiny bit of it by wezl

but more directly in that case

Wezl

6:51 PM

@RedwolfPrograms Wezl eating the hivemind is accurate, but we eat rabbits not grass

user

Don't forget Ra

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino What about a fourth-generation neutrino?

Wezl

what's with people thinking weasels are rodents

hyper-neutrino

@hyper-neutrino never mind, there is no tau-neutrino

Redwolf Programs

@Wezl But you're a vegetarian wezl right? :p

hyper-neutrino

6:52 PM

@pxeger a what now

Wezl

@RedwolfPrograms ~~so I kill the necessary amount of rabbits by proxy~~

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino Electron = 1st-gen, muon = 2nd-gen, tau = 3rd-gen, so a potential 4th-gen neutrino could exist

hyper-neutrino

huh. wack.

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger I suggest it be termed a "hyper" neutrino, for science reasons

Redwolf Programs

It makes sense too (hypercube = 4), I'd vote for that at the next science

pxeger

6:58 PM

ah yes, The Science

Wezl

@RedwolfPrograms so in order to fulfill my religious obligation I eat chocolate rabbits

Redwolf Programs

Those are close enough to cookies, they come with your hivemind membership perks

Wezl

@Wezl D: which is twice as huge

user

7:19 PM

@RedwolfPrograms The rabbits are brain-dead, i.e. vegetables

ngn

7:53 PM

is there a way to use good old sorted(a,cmp= ) in python3?

caird coinheringaahing

a.sort(key=) is usually shorter, if you don't mind it being in place

ngn

@cairdcoinheringaahing but i need cmp=, not key=

(not golfing, btw)

rak1507

key=functools.cmp_to_key(cmp)

have to import functools

hyper-neutrino

tio.run/##RY1BCsIwFAXX5hRvmUAUa3Uj1YuIFEl/…

caird coinheringaahing

rak's correct. From the docs:

> Use functools.cmp_to_key() to convert an old-style cmp function to a key function.

hyper-neutrino

7:55 PM

38

Q: Using a comparator function to sort

So I'm working with a few pre-existing comparators that compare certain values in two tuples and return true if the first is greater than the second, false if otherwise. Here's the code for one of them: def cmpValue(subInfo1, subInfo2): """ Returns True if value in (value, work) tuple su...

willing it just maps each object to a custom class instance whose </> is then defined based on the comparator lol

rak1507

yep

ngn

@rak1507 @cairdcoinheringaahing huh. thanks! i wonder how this can possibly work..

rak1507

@hyper-neutrino like this ^

Wezl

can I get some confirmation these are circles? Also, which one looks best?

rak1507

definitely circles

Wezl

8:00 PM

~~:O tricked you~~

rak1507

the first column looks best imo

ngn

@ngn ah, so of course .sort() calls .__lt__() on the keys, and cmp_to_key() creates fake key objects and sets the comparator function as their __lt__()

hyper-neutrino

yep. basically you need to take the comp function, turn it into a key thing, which is then comp'd. python ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

caird coinheringaahing

CMC: Given a cmp function and a list L, sort L by the cmp function

hyper-neutrino

I think çⱮS$Þ in Jelly works

sort by key function where key is the sum of cmping the element with all other elements

since each element in that list will be -1 if < and 1 if >, then the one with the smallest sum has the most -1 and is therefore < all other elements

Redwolf Programs

8:20 PM

𒐪

I think that's the widest unicode character I've seen

⸻ was my previous PB I think

:(

lol wow

Chromebook gang

Good Unicode support

user

8:30 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Scala: _ sortBy _ :P

Wezl

Which one looks best?

trusts other's visual opinion more than own

also, color preferences?

Redwolf Programs

What's this for?

Wezl

programming language logo

Redwolf Programs

What sort of language?

ngn

logo is a programming language :)

Wezl

8:37 PM

@RedwolfPrograms here's the extensive documentation :P

Redwolf Programs

Either the brown or the purple one, or maybe a gray one

hyper-neutrino

> purlely

caird coinheringaahing

@Wezl Green, blue and purple

Wezl

@hyper-neutrino Wezl analytics: find out how many people viewed your site by how many typos they found

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing APL, 13: L[⍋+/∘.⎕⍨L←⎕] Try it online!

Delfad0r

8:48 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Haskell: import Data.List;sortBy

Adám

@Delfad0r Gotta love it when the APL implementation is shorter than the import statement for a ready-made solution in other languages.

caird coinheringaahing

@Delfad0r sortBy sorts by a cmp function rather than a key function by default?

Delfad0r

@cairdcoinheringaahing Yes, if I'm not mistaken it's sortOn to sort by a key function

Wezl

yes but there's a special Ordering type

Delfad0r

They have the same length though :)

Wezl

8:54 PM

@RedwolfPrograms looks like 𒐫 is even wider :)

Adám

9:09 PM

CMC: Given a list, determine if negating its elements yields the same result as reversing it. E.g. [-3,2,4,0,-4,-2,3] → true and [-3,2,4,1,-4,-2,3] → false

Wezl

@Adám map(-.)==reverse, Jq, 16 bytes, Jqplay it!

hyper-neutrino

@Adám U⁼N in jelly

Adám

@hyper-neutrino Right. Now compare that to APL: ⌽≡-

hyper-neutrino

lol

Adám

9:23 PM

CMC: Given a list of HSL or RGB values (you choose), answer the average colour.

rak1507

+⌿÷≢

hyper-neutrino

reduce over addition and divide by length (tally)?

Adám

Yes.

caird coinheringaahing

Reduce rowwise, specifically, right?

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing Not sure what you mean by row-wise.

On a matrix +⌿ sums the columns.

And ≢ counts the rows.

So +⌿÷≢ gives the average of each column.

hyper-neutrino

9:25 PM

S÷L in Jelly, since the mean built-in doesn't vectorize horizontally

Sum divided by Length

Wezl

@Adám ⌿ versus / is hard to see

Adám

All of these would need HSL, I'd think.

hyper-neutrino

what is average color anyway

Adám

@Wezl What do you mean? Hard to see what they symbolise?

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám / in Jelly reduces "columnwise", meaning +/ is the sums of the columns. I figured it was the same in APL, and that ⌿ reduces "rowwise", so +⌿ is the sums of the rows

rak1507

9:28 PM

haskell: map$liftM2(/)sum genericLength (with a bunch of imports)

liftM2 in haskell basically does a train in APL

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing Ah, because Jelly comes from J which uses / like that.

caird coinheringaahing

9:38 PM

Martin just posted for the first time in 2 years, and it's a crazy impressive answer

Redwolf Programs

:o

hyper-neutrino

wait martin is back? :D

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Turns out he was never gone, just working on that answer :P

hyper-neutrino

first of all that answer is hella impressive, second of all where did these flags all come from

rak1507

@user he's active on code.golf ;)

user

9:41 PM

Oh right

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino You're the mod, you tell us :P

hyper-neutrino

oh well i'll deal with that later

Wezl

@hyper-neutrino we're discussing ... um ... we're discussing using bytes. Bytes are on topic

hyper-neutrino

i'll move it if you want but prepare for glitchy chat history for a few minutes

Xoniterfos

well i'm leaving so it's fine by me

rak1507

9:45 PM

bye hyper's brother

user

@hyper-neutrino According to this room's discussion, "General discussion" is allowed. This is very general discussion

Adám

If a room starts, the fifth char should not show up.

user

The fifth char of what?

caird coinheringaahing

I'm moving them now

→ 143 messages moved to Synesthesia

Adám

@user our abc

hyper-neutrino

9:46 PM

@user a list of linguistically important symbols

Redwolf Programs

> caird has invited you to join synesthesia

Too late!

rak1507

@Adám this, if mandatory, would slow chat down

user

Oh, I grok it now

hyper-neutrino

last time i tried moving a large convo and it was like 200+ i think and the messages existed in both places for like a minute and chat history here was completely borked

caird coinheringaahing

→ 54 messages moved to Synesthesia

@hyper-neutrino Luckily, the CMC split it up a bit, so I could do two batches :P

Martin got +10 in <15 mins :P

Wezl

9:50 PM

+100?

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, +10 score

Wezl

oh whoops

caird coinheringaahing

10:02 PM

CMC: You can reference the letter "e", without using it, by saying something like "that fifth glyph" (or various different ways). "z" could be "The 26th letter". Are there any letters for which it is impossible to do this?

ngn

@cairdcoinheringaahing define "letter"

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing "t", perhaps

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms That doesn't contain any "z"s

Redwolf Programs

Oh wait it's the letter not e

caird coinheringaahing

@ngn The 26 letters of the alphabet

Redwolf Programs

10:05 PM

@user "glyph number 19" (or whatever number t is)

user

If you're allowing digits, then I don't think any qualify

ngn

@cairdcoinheringaahing you can reference any of them with "the n-th letter", so..

Adám

@ngn Except thenl

caird coinheringaahing

I'll change the CMC to be "reference with only letters, spaces and characters used as punctuation"

So z could be "the twenty-sixth letter"

natural-language challenges are annoying to properly specify :/

New Main Posts

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Q: Generate a uncomputable number

An uncomputable number is a number that some digit can't be computed in finite time. Now you're to generate and output one of them, in decimal(base 10). You can(and need to) use \b to undo an outputted byte, but every byte should stop changing since some time. An example solution, assuming stepN(...

code-golf

Redwolf Programs

10:17 PM

I like how immediately after a relevant room was created, we went off topic from that

Adám

A: First letter
B: Second letter
C: Third letter
D: Fourth letter
E: Fifth char
F: Sixth letter
G: Seventh letter
H: Letter consisting of two vertical bars joined in the middle
I: The vertical bar letter
J: Tenth letter
K: Eleventh letter
L: Char with an underscore to the right of a top-down bar
M: Thirteenth letter
N: Letter with a diagonal and two vertical bars
O: Fifteenths letter
P: Sixteenths letter
Q: Seventeenth letter
R: Eighteenth symbol in the abc
S: Nineteenth letter
T: Char with an east-west line on a line going down

Redwolf Programs

H: Letter with a number after seven

Wait no

with

Adám

:-)

H was one of the hardest.

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám "vertical" contains "I", "diagonal" contains "n", multiple ones for "T" have "T" in

Adám

Ugh.

Redwolf Programs

10:19 PM

The up and down bar letter

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám But still, very impressive :D

Wezl

T: s/with/which has/

Adám

N: Letter with a backslash to merge two vertical bars

caird coinheringaahing

"east-west": across

Adám

T: Overbar-on-a-line-going-down char

caird coinheringaahing

10:21 PM

@Adám That's so convoluted, I love it :)

Adám

Did we get them all now?

caird coinheringaahing

I think so, yes

Wezl

CMC: Validate a submission to ^

Adám

That's much easier.

Wezl

(don't need to validate whether it describes a letter)

caird coinheringaahing

10:23 PM

Jelly, 1 byte: e. Outputs 1 for False and 0 for True. Assumes v

Adám

I figured. Can we assume all lowercase in the submission?

@cairdcoinheringaahing Wat?

Wezl

@Adám no

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám It checks if the letter is in the description

Redwolf Programs

I'm designing a chat thing, can someone tell me if this (rough) layout looks nice?

Wezl

sed -En: s/^(.).*\1/&/pi, outputs non-null for false

caird coinheringaahing

10:24 PM

@RedwolfPrograms No star system?

Adám

Wait, don't we have to check an entire submission of 26 lines?

Redwolf Programs

@cairdcoinheringaahing There might be later on, but this is just a general layout

Wezl

@Adám yes

Redwolf Programs

I'm not sure if the boxes at the top and bottom leaving a gap in the corner looks bad

caird coinheringaahing

Then slightly more bytes than 1 in Jelly :P

Wezl

10:25 PM

your solution is the input format

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Looks good to me

Redwolf Programs

I'll just leave it alone then :p

Wezl

@RedwolfPrograms keep the theme too

colors are overrated

Adám

Dyalog APL Extended, 6 bytes: ⍱⎕A∊¨⌈
https://tio.run/##zZLBbhMxEIbvPMXccvKJJ0BVK5AQSKQvMLueXRsce2U73aZXpKqqSAUH3oEDEkLiCfoofpEw9m6Fk3DjQC6WZ2zP/PP7w8EIuUHjekHXkawkudul7c/08PVFurt//JY@3e26dPs5bR/S/ce0/Z62vx5/PE@3X/jK8t0Zr5cvXy13HSwutA8RDMVIfgGLJbXOyj/xpdK@Ci/c2kdVxbrjsFVY3urr@mxJV2TrxOuyAW4QdIja9uA6iKODK/JRt2igQR/gvdOWJGgLURGstJSGihLau1hp3G9zbg4bn7E@GDWn0MKa7fKhdZ4gutLC617FrAU5MwjpRpsbzNNH@usUUzmQGntnWRGya0ezzA6VCqFyho06yhXRB73Os7IpFzarxpknV7Bp@fgNG3X4ZG9WwhDFSPmD@So4y4rLrnfZ/jxpnnLkEhvR7ZMwZ8MREAQ3ur/Bfs5NzZw1G14IGsYRBi5fPng9VPUP2KmNjMoTFWkBVkTl7REAs6CasmcnSfAkWUwgz56th4LIE1ynQW@D7YdgMKhcbE…

Redwolf Programs

On a scale of zero to terrifying, how bad is it to have mathjax for a chat program?

Wezl

10:34 PM

terrifying minus one

Redwolf Programs

Yeah that's a very easy billion laughs attack just waiting to be laughed. Maybe if I disable macro expansion it'd be better?

TIL \[ and \] can be used for display math on CGCC along with $$

Adám

Huh, I also didn't know.

Wzl

@RedwolfPrograms :O can you do that on CGCC?

caird coinheringaahing

And if you've got things that use \begin and \end markers (e.g. \begin{matrix} ... \end{matrix}) you don't even need $$ or \[ ... \]

Redwolf Programs

There's a limit of 10k expansions I think.

caird coinheringaahing

10:43 PM

Wow

Redwolf Programs

> This looks like a healthy Stack Exchange site and I want to try and make it better.

Feb 28

caird coinheringaahing

There has literally been no activity on WindowsPhone.Meta.SE in the last 60 days

hyper-neutrino

idk why they even bothered graduating it lol

user

Why hasn't it been shut down yet?

hyper-neutrino

not that it actually matters

caird coinheringaahing

10:48 PM

So long as they have users willing to keep the site moderated, SE doesn't really care about graduated sites

It's interesting that it got graduated, but Retrocomputing didn't

Redwolf Programs

RC isn't graduated?!

But Windows Phone is?

caird coinheringaahing

Windows Phone was 7 years old (or older) when this happened, RC wasn't

Redwolf Programs

Oh, makes sense

caird coinheringaahing

Not really

It's an explanation. Not a sensible one, but an explanation :P

Redwolf Programs

Makes sense as in there's a reason :p

rak1507

10:52 PM

https://tio.run/##VVHbbtRADH2fr/BbNrAg2koIjdSHtlAoLNDbcmlVISdREmtn7WguWsLPL550t4i3sX185pzjYYy98NGbwW@3rXj4BcQFFs8OX1sDOK@OiYcUZ@XLMDiKs8JCURoYPHGc4Rzui06kKeZFhU3xcI@6DRUoT937mfhmhuXzo8Pyv/bBq4PHxkO53Z5YOCcfojndPaAWDsLI0ZxZuO3JNxnsSEfSgsOoVRjXlbhg3uqSJB97JUZv3mWOdl@dW7ih3/vq/RO/VpmxFzfCGtl8sHCdumqETtDBICrmwsKJmhSWxOajFpcLaHFNuvEi74xQJXKqJID5tBtndzhQxCw1mIWFs91PSkmRhMGLTCY6LyGYzxYuGJAhsUv1anzCmS@qPKKfsD26FuJGzFclJF8np2YuVTJsSE@XIjSEnQbmzJUqcRscg4pJ3EwAWJprbTfJRaB2Hxw0AtgRd@ZmSnAPzs4Gl7yS3eYIalmvVbd6W2UjqA6wMUsLC9QkWUf/rvVNRQ@0ygmFVIVIMU2mczDL6YT5dOa7hTvq/mBnflhY8oplw@anhVOPXPcqSaFRsmMYNAIN@O7…

Adám

@rak1507 I don't think a submission includes ⎕:

rak1507

Ok - will adapt

https://tio.run/##VVFdaxsxEHzXr9g32W0KcVJKMRjqBgKFPJS4fmkIZe@O0y3W7Qp94F5Dfru7utRN@yJWq9HszGyY8iB8/THE0wk39pM1vUT4AcQW7ZurD2sDuGmHuJDYLXD5drU00GyIQ8kLLUMkzovePuHzGp6a9fvLZ3sBD9aJdPbCNtjZxwdUNmhAef8hur5a/tdeXa5eGo/L0@mWYspmPqEVTsLI2XwbKHYV40n70oPHrLc0jY34ZG6lxDwoGUb92p/LHf187c6EWlaWQfwEI7K5L66ZwAl6CKJzt2pLWAqb7dc76HEkBb6r0AmaQl6HJnh5q@IxUMYqKZmbP9RKQ5mEIYrMSl2UlMwXBmQo7Et7mP6CzC5jnFED@h7yUcwNxbZ4VXwPR9IFlQwdodMYvNn6I05JRxfu5lfYm21XfAbqz1lAJ4CO2NVQzrAqP/gSK4emOo6qTw0cqmBUpdiZO9R8WPuvoe8CHar7VJqUKZfZVvW9nzdRN2C@k/uFzuz5wHJk8zkit4NOV0SWagiCOtTMKv9v

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