The Nineteenth Byte

Razetime

13:04

@pxeger I like it

Wezl

<hint> I have a bounty for sed answers </hint>

Razetime

sadly I am only addicted to vim now

Wezl

if vim had started with having sed instead of ex mode, it wouldn't need vimscript :P

and no I don't mean an icky unicode thorn

thþþthþththththþþththþthþthþþththþthþthþþthþththththþþththþthþthþþththþthþ

you can only decode my binary message if you don't have a userscript that converts from th to þ

pxeger

> heehee

Wezl

that was just the prototype

I literally ddw 'heehee to binary' and ran sed 's/0/th/g;s/1/þ/g'

pxeger

13:13

ddw? duck-duck-went?

Wezl

yeah

user

How would you say you're going to use DuckDuckGo in the future? ddwg?

pxeger

"will duck-duck-go"

because "duck-duck-" is part of the verb

like we say "will undo" not "un-will-do", but still "undid"

user

Ah, that makes sense

Adám

To duck might work…

caird coinheringaahing

13:20

@user Pronounced "dawg"

pxeger

yo dawg, I heard you liked private search engines, so I put privacy in your search engine

Wezl

@Lyxal yes, want some? ;P

pxeger

@Lyxal no

Wezl

@RedwolfPrograms mhm pepperoni is so problematic. You should use vegan pepperoni, which is probablly denser and won't fall off :P

Redwolf Programs

No, if it was denser more would have fallen because the pizza was at an angle :p

Plus vegan pepperoni probably smells worse when it catches on fire

user

13:25

I kinda like it when stuff gets burned a little, it's nice and crispy

Redwolf Programs

There is quite the difference between "burned a little, ... nice and crispy" and "partially on fire at the bottom of the oven" :p

Wezl

besides, quesadillas are superior to pizza in every way

Redwolf Programs

Not sure if I can agree with that, they're good for different reasons

caird coinheringaahing

@Wezl Y'all have clearly never had pizza crumpets :P

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing do not get me started on crumpets

caird coinheringaahing

13:28

@pxeger As soon as you do, you'll eat a whole pack :P

pxeger

þat's precisely what I mean

user

@pxeger Oh dear, it looks like you've turned to þat side!

Wezl

I've only tried handmade crumpets

pxeger

@user really stretching it þere to find somewhere to put a þorn in þat sentence

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger I was very confused for a second, cause I thought I'd turned that userscript off and had to double check :P

Wezl

13:30

@Wezl I prefer crêpes to those

user

Those are awesome

I like the cheesy kind with chicken in it

pxeger

crêpes and crumpets are completely different categories þough

Redwolf Programs

I like tank tracks more than wheels but I wouldn't put them on my bike :p

Wezl

okay is my ignorance showing? :P

user

@pxeger So? They may be apples and oranges, but I like apples more than oranges.

2

Wezl

13:31

I'd star this but I like oranges more :P

pxeger

@user I'd give you a star too if it weren't for þe fact þat oranges are better þan apples

Redwolf Programs

Actually a bicycle with tank tracks is totally the kind of thing I would want to own

pxeger

context?

user

Meh, some oranges are better than some apples, but I usually find apples less disappointing.

@pxeger Why do you need context? A bike with tank tracks is always a good thing.

Wezl

I find apples extremely disappointing

1 min ago, by Redwolf Programs

I like tank tracks more than wheels but I wouldn't put them on my bike :p

caird coinheringaahing

13:33

@user Pears are better than both

Redwolf Programs

You know that feeling when you're riding your bike and suddenly reach the front and there's all sorts of trenches and mines? It's way more convenient to have tank tracks.

user

I once gave someone I didn't like apples, and I too was pretty disappointed because there doesn't seem to be a lot of cyanide in them, but I've gotten over it now.

Wezl

@cairdcoinheringaahing true

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing The crisp kind are, but I hate it when they get old and mushy.

Redwolf Programs

@cairdcoinheringaahing Pears are objectively bad :p

pxeger

13:34

pears are like... yeah ok? but why wouldn't you just eat an apple?

user

@RedwolfPrograms I think you dropped an ass there

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger Because apples != pears

pxeger

@user ass-pears?

2

Redwolf Programs

That sounds awesome with or without context

Wezl

If I hadn't had breakfast this morning you all would be toast

pxeger

13:35

what if I already am toast

Redwolf Programs

@user I liked the old one because of the ambiguity :p

Wezl

@pxeger ~~pears~~ asparagi (?) are objectively bad

user

@RedwolfPrograms Should I revert to it?

Redwolf Programs

Yes

pxeger

@Wezl asparagus is an uncountable noun, so it'd just be "asparagus is"

Redwolf Programs

13:35

@Wezl Asparagus is the best vegetable

You just have to cook it right

user

@user Just to clarify, I meant "badass"

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Courgette (zuccini) is better

Wezl

@RedwolfPrograms touché, I probably haven't had it cooked right

caird coinheringaahing

A good ratatouille is divine

user

@RedwolfPrograms There are plenty of better vegetables that you don't even need to cook right.

Why is it that the TTNB keeps coming back to food?!

caird coinheringaahing

13:36

Because we're all hungry

pxeger

@user because it transcends ~~cultures~~ golf

Wezl

@user because programs was making food

Redwolf Programs

That was more than 12 hours ago :p

user

Redwolf, stop making food and/or consuming it.

Wezl

@RedwolfPrograms and then I replied way too late

user

13:37

@RedwolfPrograms Don't post about the food you make in here, I'm hungry because of y'all.

Redwolf Programs

Usually I make asparagus by mixing it with some olive oil, salt, parmesan cheese, pepper, and a little bit of garlic power (or real garlic), then putting it on a baking sheet and baking it at 425 °F for about ten minutes. You have to cut off the woody part if you want it to be good, though. The thin ones are the best, resist the urge to get the biggest asparagus to get your money's worth.

user

See people like me don't do all that

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms What's that in non-freedom units?

pxeger

> garlic powder

You heaþen!

Redwolf Programs

It's actually better than actual garlic for this imo

Wezl

13:40

@pxeger I disagree

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing ~220°c

user

Potatoes are objectively better because you just chop them up, fry them, and dip them in the blood of tomatoes

And then you can say you ate French cuisine

Wezl

although I am growing garlic and hopefully I can use real gralic more after this

pxeger

@user or really do anyþing wiþ þem and þey're still great

user

Indeed

Crispy potatoes = heaven

Redwolf Programs

13:40

Potatoes are ~~good~~ one of the best foods but I don't really consider them vegetables

Wezl

@user they're not even French

pxeger

@user bUt FrEnCh fRiEs WeRe InVeNtEd In BeLgIuM

user

@Wezl It was a joke about French fries

Wezl

potatoes are awesome, but they're boring fried

user

@pxeger Belgium ≈ France :P

@Wezl Season them with some oregano and spices and you're set

Wezl

13:42

@user that is correct

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms If you fry steak on a griddle, then fry salted asparagus on the used griddle immediately after, the juices from the steak flavour the asparagus and it's great :D

Add a dash of pepper and Worcestershire sauce to make it even better

pxeger

> If you fry steak on a griddle, then fry ~~salted asparagus~~ literally anything on the used griddle immediately after, the juices from the steak flavour the ~~asparagus~~ food and it's great :D

FÞFY

Redwolf Programs

That sounds good, but then your steak would get cold :p

@pxeger FTHFY?

user

Fixed That For You -> Fixed þat For You -> FþFY

pxeger

@RedwolfPrograms þe first letter of "þat" is Þ

Redwolf Programs

13:43

Makes sense

user

CMP: In a fight between potatoes and Superman, who would win?

Wezl

@user potatoes hands down :)

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger TBH add Worcestershire sauce to anything and it makes it better :P

pxeger

@user Obviously superman

caird coinheringaahing

@user Potatoes aren't a vegetable (at least not according to the UK government IIRC)

(Technically they are, but they don't count towards one of your 5 a day)

Redwolf Programs

13:45

Ha, the UK gov't agrees with me on potatoes!

user

@pxeger Aww, you ruined it :\

pxeger

@user I see your sneaky edit, I raise you anoþer sneaky edit

caird coinheringaahing

@Wezl I need to know your reasoning here :P

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing So I can eat as many potatoes as I like without gaining calories? Good to know :P

Wezl

@cairdcoinheringaahing I need to know your ~~reasoning~~ seasoning here FTFY

pxeger

13:47

@user context for posterity (and for þe purposes of ruining þe joke): þe message originally said "Which is the better vegetable: potatoes or asparagus?" and it was þen edited to say "In a fight between potatoes and Superman, who would win?"

Wezl

@Wezl basil garlic oregano salt

caird coinheringaahing

@Wezl Paprika, salt, pepper, tabasco and Worcestershire sauce

user

@pxeger >-(

Redwolf Programs

@user See, potatoes have much larger fighting forces, and much more popular support. Regardless of how strong superman is, potatoes have more time on earth to get familiar, considerably larger forces, get stronger after being cooked or mashed, and don't care if you threaten innocent civiians in order to push them around.

Wezl

@cairdcoinheringaahing I really should try paprika more

pxeger

13:48

@cairdcoinheringaahing I'm not quite wiþ you on þe Worcestershire sauce tbh

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger TBH I typically add it only with a specific "format" of potatoes

Wezl

they're so flexible

caird coinheringaahing

Dice them up, throw them into a frying pan with olive oil and those seasonings, fry until crispy brown and eat

Redwolf Programs

I should try that

caird coinheringaahing

And by dice, I mean inch long (side length) cubes maximum. Smaller is even better

Wezl

13:51

s/olive/cheese/ g

caird coinheringaahing

@Wezl Cheese... oil?

4

Wezl

yes

from quesadillas

caird coinheringaahing

Isn't that just butter?

Redwolf Programs

Cheese oil does not sound like something I would voluntarily eat

Wezl

no bc it's flavored

user

13:52

I'm not sure I understand this, but I guess anything that comes from cheese must be good.

Redwolf Programs

@user Except some weird molds

user

@RedwolfPrograms Oh right

Wezl

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ people eat them, they can't be that bad

^ not true for everything, obv

user

People also eat each other

caird coinheringaahing

Not often

Redwolf Programs

13:54

2

Great combination

caird coinheringaahing

I'm just guessing here, but I think more people eat blue cheese than people

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing I'm sure there's some overlap, though

:P

caird coinheringaahing

I suppose I can't argue with that :P

Redwolf Programs

Blue cheese salad dressing isn't awful

But it only goes with very specific stuff

Wezl

very very true

but ranch is easier to make so I don't have enough experience

caird coinheringaahing

13:57

@RedwolfPrograms Things like blue cheese salad dressing and ranch are foods I will never not associate with americans

I don't think I've ever heard of them outside the states, let alone seen them

pxeger

> foods I all never not associate

???

user

caird now has a prion disease

Redwolf Programs

@cairdcoinheringaahing That's interesting, blue cheese dressing seems like it'd be some fancy thing us americans wouldn't be able to find

caird coinheringaahing

Nah, I just can't type :P

Hell, I've bought Twinkies in my local Asda, but not ranch

user

I've never actually had blue cheese dressing

Redwolf Programs

13:59

The first four digits of my class's zoom password are 6942 but they ruin it with a 5 after that :(

Wezl

@RedwolfPrograms what are the rest? ;)

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Are there any Subways near you? They may have ranch

Wezl

guacamole

user

@Wezl You do realize you gain nothing by joining his class's zoom, not to mention you also need the meeting id?

caird coinheringaahing

@user I'll keep an eye out the next time I go ot Subway

Wezl

14:00

@user yeah

caird coinheringaahing

@user Wezl can gain the insightful knowledge provided by the Texas education system

Redwolf Programs

Fun fact: Agrobacterium is a genus of bacteria which inject DNA into trees, causing them to switch to producing food for the agrobacteria colony

user

(I know you were kidding, but I like to try to make people feel dumb)

Wezl

I trust programs's school more than mine

user

Why?

Their school doesn't even care if their students aren't paying attention during class :P

Wezl

14:02

aw now that's politics not food

user

School isn't politics

And I'm told school cafeterias have a substance resembling food :P

Redwolf Programs

I ate tomato soup with a spork yesterday

Apparently they got the salt mixed up with pepper though because it didn't taste at all salty, just very peppery

user

Easy way to make salt: get some water from a swimming pool and dump sodium into it, and voila, sodium chloride!

Redwolf Programs

Instructions unclear, I blew up my house and I'm now in the hospital with severe burns and no tomato soup

caird coinheringaahing

Nah, just go to your local beach and dunk the soup into the tide

pxeger

14:07

^ a real Life Pro Tip right þere!

user

@RedwolfPrograms Good, now ask the hospital staff for tomato soup :P

Redwolf Programs

@cairdcoinheringaahing My local beach is four hours away and the water is dark brown :p

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Good, the color of the soup won't be diluted :P

Also, as someone who lives on an island, the nearest beach being 4 hours away is completely alien :P

Redwolf Programs

Also do y'all usually talk about the distance to a place in miles/kilometers or minutes/hours?

Wezl

I talk about it in seconds :)

pxeger

14:11

Depends. If I'm planning to go there, or talking about going there, then time; otherwise, miles

user

@Wezl "I talk about it in milliseconds" - The Flash

Redwolf Programs

> Is Galveston a beach or ocean?

I hate google's suggested questions

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Typically time

For example, Andromeda is 2.5 million light years away, and it's possible to do the Kessel run in 14 parsecs

Wezl

@Wezl N seconds to go downstairs, N seconds to get into the kitchen ::)

user

It's been so long since I've talked to someone other than my parents in person

Redwolf Programs

14:22

Talking to people in person is overrated

I forgot how to do talking so I just nod and say "yeah" and think about code golf

user

@RedwolfPrograms Can't argue with that :P

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Q: Interpret control characters like a terminal

Given a ASCII string containing control characters, compute what it should look like when printed to a terminal. Imagining the behaviour of a cursor, this is how to treat each character in the input: 0x08 backspace (\b): go left one (if already at the start of a line, do not go up) 0x09 horizont...

user

Unfortunately, people think people skills are a good way to judge people :\

caird coinheringaahing

Being able to fake people skills is an invaluable skill

user

@NewMainPosts Wow, NMP, you're only 25 minutes late this time!

Wezl

14:25

1 hour ago, by Wezl

<hint> I have a bounty for sed answers </hint>

* first sed answers

Adám

@user Truly unfortunate, because that thought shows lack of good judgement, but then they're obviously going to judge people ― based on people skills.

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Does Sandwich meet your "new and interesting languages" bounty?

Redwolf Programs

I think it might, thanks!

I've got three active interesting new language bounties right now lol

New bounty for an interesting new language just went up. If you're interested, check out Sandwich!

caird coinheringaahing

14:47

@RedwolfPrograms Are you planning on editing them into the bounties page after awarding the bounties?

Redwolf Programs

Yes, that's what I usually do because I forget and am lazy

How many people need to approve a tag wiki edit?

caird coinheringaahing

2

Unless one is a mod

I think it takes 2 approvals or 2 rejections to decide it, so it might require 3 if one person disagrees

StackMeter

I have an idea

how do you convert a 9*9*9 rubix-cube to a 3*3*3

trust me here

because if you do that

you can solve the 3*3*3

user

15:10

Glue 3x3 blocks together, maybe?

New Main Posts

15:23

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Q: Make it prime with the smallest suffix

Given a positive integer as input, output the smallest positive integer such that appending its digits (in base 10) to the end of the input number will form a prime number. Examples 1 --> 1 2 --> 3 8 --> 3 9 --> 7 11 --> 3 20 --> 11 43 --> 1 134 --> 11 349...

code-golf primes

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15:37

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

The Great Battle Conundrum- Who are Alive? Maximillian is the chief commander of the Great Greek Army and he is leading his forces into a crucial war with Spain. If all the enemy soldiers stand in a straight line incrementally marked starting from position 1, and a particular soldier at position ...

caird coinheringaahing

@NewMainPosts CMC: Given a positive integer as input, output the smallest positive integer such that prepending its digits (in base 10) to the start of the input number will form a prime number.

caird coinheringaahing

15:56

Any feedback or any feedback?

user

16:13

@cairdcoinheringaahing Husk, 10 bytes: ``ḟ1öṗr+⁰s (a trivial modification of my original answer)

Wasif

oh sorry didn't notice the change

Try it online! Python 3, 82 bytes

This seems to exceed the recursion limit?

user

Seems to be working fine

Wasif

The result seems to huge... It is still running in my Ipython

user

If the inputted n is an even number, though, it's never going to find a prefix

Wasif

@user does odd numbers work, 3 returned 1, but 5 is stuck.........

user

16:20

@Wasif Because there aren't primes greater than 10 that end in 5

caird coinheringaahing

Numbers ending in 1, 3, 7 and 9 work, everything else doesn't

user

They're all divisible by 5

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing Does it work for all numbers ending in 1, 3, 7, or 9? Edit: Yes, because the only ones that don't are ones which share prime factors with our base, which is 10 (so 2 and 5)

caird coinheringaahing

I think so

pxeger

CMC: what does this Python code print?

x = ([],)
try:
    x[0] += [1]
except:
    pass
print(x)

Adám

16:29

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ".code.tio", line 1, in <module>
    (coming)
NameError: name 'coming' is not defined

Wasif

NameError: name 'coming' is not defined

pxeger

that was just until I finished writing it, so the message wasn't split up

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger ~~([],), as tuple contents aren't modifiable~~ Stupid tuples

Wasif

([1],)

Redwolf Programs

@cairdcoinheringaahing It'd be a reference though, right?

user

16:31

@pxeger Wouldn't x be [] first and then [1]?

Because it's deconstructed

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing it's actually lists, not tuples, that are at fault here. They have an __iadd__ method, which mutates them and tries to change the reference

@user no? I'm not sure what you mean

You can see the difference here:

x = []
y = x
x += [1]
print(y)
x = []
y = x
x = x + [1]
print(y)

user

nvm I don't understand Python :P

Wezl

perfect. My italian teacher has to talk about food too

user

How could you not? Italian food is awesome

Raise your hand if you like lasagna

Wezl

@user "There should be one— and preferably only one —obvious way to do it." Except when you're making a language and you decide that there should be tuples and arrays, += and .. = .. + .., newlines and semicolons

@user have raised my hand. Vegetarian lasagna is good

StackMeter

16:43

no I mean such that there is an algorithm

caird coinheringaahing

@user Not really tbh

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

Redwolf Programs

Yeah, there are much better thing to do with pasta than lasagna

StackMeter

@user in relation to the previous posts

user

You can put layers and layers of chicken and cheese in lasagna

Redwolf Programs

16:45

That sounds good

user

@Wezl You should try lasagna with meat

Redwolf Programs

But typical red sauce, meat, and white cheese does not go well together in my opinion

Wezl

@user nope nope nope nope nope

user

@RedwolfPrograms Huh, it feels right to me

Redwolf Programs

Do we haaaaave to wait five more days for the voting, the counts haven't changed in 24 hours

user

16:48

Give me a minute

caird coinheringaahing

13 hours ago, by Redwolf Programs

Stop voting for me people, I want Lyxal to catch up!

Redwolf Programs

It doesn't seem like that's going to happen though

caird coinheringaahing

I got downvoted (thanks Lyxal) less than 24 hours ago

Redwolf Programs

Well they haven't changed meaningfully at least

caird coinheringaahing

Besides, it can't hurt to wait a few more days

Redwolf Programs

16:49

It can hurt my productivity :p

Wasif

How many days are left?

Redwolf Programs

Five

Wasif

For the election to end

Wezl

If you get elected it will hurt your productivity :)

Redwolf Programs

Not really tbh

Wasif

16:50

@Wezl Room owners don't have too much load...

Redwolf Programs

All I should need to do is pin something occasionally, and even then caird would probably get to it first

Wezl

true, there will be several

user

If I'm elected room owner, here's what I'll do:
1) Kick all the other room owners
2) Make the room private so no one else can chat
3) No one will chat in here
4) ...
5) Profit!

caird coinheringaahing

The most effective way to reduce noise is to kill chat :P

Redwolf Programs

Maybe move some off topic messages sometimes, but ususally I'm half the cause of those so ¯\_( . .)/¯

Wasif

16:52

I want to know what is inside the ...

caird coinheringaahing

@Wasif .

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing I believe one of the Federalist Papers said somewhere that you could stop factions from occurring by removing oxygen from the planet. They said it was infeasible, but ...

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Q: Does a Vim submission have to end in a certain mode?

This question came up recently in a discussion of the validity of my answer to this question. It was argued that the answer was a V submission, not a Vim submission. It is widely agreed that displaying text in Vim is a valid form of output. However, this brings up a question: Is a script/program ...

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Wasif

Funny CMQ: How do you imagine the users here like, I mean how do you imagine they might look in real life, you can say about 1 or more users, unless they don't mind!

Redwolf Programs

I've now lost rep two days in a row

Wasif

16:58

@RedwolfPrograms I am building an esolang, you might lose more

caird coinheringaahing

@Wasif I imagine everyone is an exact clone of me, copying my exact movements at all times :P

rak1507

@Wasif I imagine Adám looks at least somewhat like his profile picture

same with Razetime

Redwolf Programs

I think user looks like their profile picture, a blue spiky square :p

rak1507

other than them everyone is an amorphous blob

3

Wasif

It would be more interesting if you say about users who don't have their image in pfp

Wezl

16:59

@rak1507 yeah, same for caird, pxeger, dzaima, lyxal and redwolf

Redwolf Programs

Okay Lyxal probably does look like their profile picture. A person saying frick.

caird coinheringaahing

I think Adam and Thomas probably look like I think they do :P

Wasif

@cairdcoinheringaahing who is thomas

caird coinheringaahing

Only 90% sure Bubbler isn't Kirby

rak1507

lyxal looks like a regular person but he's upside down of course

caird coinheringaahing

17:02

@Wasif Thomas Ward

He used to have lazer eyes, but I guess he doesn't use them anymore :(

Redwolf Programs

Deadcode's probably a bird :p

Wasif

Sorry But i imagine everyone like profile picture, like I imagine caird like a puppy and wezl like a weasel (with laser eyes)

Wezl

pretty sure hyper-neutrino is invisible

Redwolf Programs

Maybe none of us actually exist and we can't actually see each other in real life

Wezl

@RedwolfPrograms yeah of course but pretend like we do

user

17:13

@Wasif I imagine everyone with a non-identicon profile picture is their profile picture

@RedwolfPrograms ngl that'd be pretty cool

Wasif

@user and who has identicons?

user

@Wasif I meant the default gravatar thingies, like my pfp

caird coinheringaahing

Well that's a fun new question that just got posted :/

user

rak1507 also has one

rak1507

@user hi

caird coinheringaahing

17:14

> the language needs to:

Have at least 100 questions asked about it in the last year on stackoverflow

user

@rak1507 Hi

caird coinheringaahing

Well, no golfing languages allowed :/

rak1507

lmfao

the question on leetcode is terrible too

user

Leetcode doesn't generally meet our standards

Someone please help close it

Redwolf Programs

17:37

I was doing super well in chrome dino game then the wifi came back

I like playing at double acceleration no max speed

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18:17

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Q: Golfing Expressions

We can write mathematical expressions using the standard math operators (,),+,*,/,- available pretty much universally. We allow the symbols a, b, c, d and integers (e.g. 1, 45, etc.) but will restrict to just these four symbols. (Bonus points if you can handle more.) The goal is to take an expres...