The Nineteenth Byte

Redwolf Programs

00:00

If I picked the topics of US history that other countries learned about the civil war would probably not be near the top...it just makes everyone involved seem awful

Also fun fact the guy who was sitting next to Abraham Lincoln when he was assassinated is my fourth cousin n times removed

Lyxal

oof

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And the first president of the Republic of Texas is my second cousin

*was

Lyxal

no I'd definitely say "is"

clearly

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Sam Houston

Lyxal

b..but this guy is listed first

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00:04

Oh, I got the order wrong

Lyxal

no wait

something about that guy being interim

or something

idk

and idk how se let me type that many messages that quickly

viewing wikipedia has inspired me to have a crack at some more Wikipedia speedrun attempts

lol but first i need to remember my livesplit keybindings

Redwolf Programs

What's the objective of a Wikipedia speedrun? Get to Philosophy the fastest?

Lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms relevant video

Also I just realised why it's a bad idea to have control as the timer starter

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Ctrl clicking links?

Lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms no because it screws up using ctrl+f

ctrl+f is essential to any good run

because if I try to find something, it stops the timer

and that screws up the run

Redwolf Programs

00:13

YIL they sell 1 TB micro SD cards, which means you could fit 56 wikipedias on something the size of a dime

Lyxal

LETS GO

48.33

not my best

but pretty good seeing as how i haven't done much for a while

Cessford castle to American (word)

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CMQ: Is it better to stick to what's explicitly allowed for I/O, or allow small modifications (like leading whitespace) when mentioned in the comments?

rak1507

00:29

@Neil so did they not care about whether or not you did them all in one sitting?

Lyxal

@RedwolfPrograms just allow "reasonable and convenient" and clarify if needed

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Would you consider leading whitespace/separators reasonable?

Lyxal

yes

rak1507

unless for some reason having exactly 27 whitespace characters before the output makes it trivial, it seems fine

unless it's kolmogorov complexity, in which case it should be exact (imo)

Neil

@rak1507 they didn't appear to

rak1507

00:32

Huh

EasyasPi

03:15

@cairdcoinheringaahing I posted an answer which qualifies for your "unanswered questions" bounty, can you please take a look?

Redwolf Programs

03:35

What the frick I just rolled two yahtzees in a row on my first turns

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Match me if you can cops-and-robbers regular-expression restricted-source Related Cops' Challenge Write a full program that outputs a regular expression that matches the entire source code of your program. Rules: Your program may be written in any freely available language listed on Try It Onlin...

caird coinheringaahing

07:39

@EasyasPi Taken a look, bounty’s started. I’ll award it in a few days in order to give your answer more visibility

Anush

09:12

If I choose 134368 integers from the range 1..26^7, what are the chances of getting an integer 16796 or smaller?

the default.

09:51

0.244965 if my math is correct (and something else otherwise)

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Q: Best of CGCC 2020 - Now Accepting Nominations!

We have decided the categories for the "Best of CGCC 2020". We're going to go with all 14 nominated categories as users have offered upwards of \$5000\$ rep, so we can include all positively scoring categories (i.e. all of them). How this will work: I will post 14 Community Wiki answers to this q...

caird coinheringaahing

@rak1507 Having done both, they each have merits and drawbacks

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Print random integers until 0 You are to write a program which generates random integers between \$0\$ and \$99\$ inclusive, outputting each integer in turn, until \$0\$ is generated. You may choose which random distribution (uniform, binomial, Poisson etc.) so long as each integer has a non-zero...

rak1507

@cairdcoinheringaahing can the answer to that question be a function that does it?

caird coinheringaahing

@rak1507 You mean my latest sandbox? Yeah, "program" usually means "function or full program"

rak1507

cool

Unrelated String

17:43

@RedwolfPrograms huh, I never knew that parts of Texas were controlled by France

caird coinheringaahing

18:50

Any feedback?

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The intro paragraph doesn't make quite as sense now

> [T]here are so many possible edits I could make that I can't decide which is the funniest.

Seems kind of unrelated to the current challenge

caird coinheringaahing

Updated

Redwolf Programs

Looks good!

caird coinheringaahing

19:13

Pet peeve: clarifying the nitty details of a challenge that really shouldn't need to be said. "Can I output as a list structure instead of space separated integers?" Yes, of course! Golf your code, not your I/O! And stuff like that :/

pxeger

here, @cairdcoinheringaahing said "I don't think the standard is to output with zero-padding, so I'll say no" to outputting integers between 0 and 99 with no separator and only zero-padding. In this particular case I'm inclined to agree because it might trivialise the challenge, but would this be allowed in normal sequence or other challenges, if the output is known to be a fixed number of digits? Is there precedent for this?

caird coinheringaahing

There's this, but I doubt any languages output with zero-padding by default

There's also this, which I do agree with (see my pet peeve above :P):

> If a number has leading zeros (e.g. 00075), or doesn't have a leading zero of a decimal (e.g. .43), I'd say this is fine. An answer should really be focusing on solving the problem, not trimming leading zeros to conform to an overly-strict output format

pxeger

sorry if I got your pet peeve! But my pet peeve is overly restrictive IO rules, so I wanted to get clarification that more loose options were available

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger DW about it, it's a peeve rather than anything serious. I just wish I could add to my challenges: "output in the easiest, most convenient way" and people not immediately think "oh, I can bend/break the rules then"

pxeger

19:40

@cairdcoinheringaahing bending the rules is half the fun of code-golf for me ;)

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger As someone who prefers writing challenges than answers, I strongly disagree :P It's really annoying when you work hard on a challenge, then someone posts an answer that doesn't really follow the rules with the excuse of "oh, but it's kinda allowed if you look at it this way ;)"

Like, I didn't write this challenge for you to come up with ways to half-ignore the rules, I came up with it because I think it'll be fun to write an actual solution to it :)

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I had my favorite KoTH completely ruined by a mistake in the spec

caird coinheringaahing

And you can't even redo the challenge because (justifiably) we have strict rules on reposting and "I fucked up this sentence here and it ruined it" isn't a good enough justification :P

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I think in a few months I'll change some small thing and make up enough justification to close the old one as a dupe of the new one

rak1507

20:06

@RedwolfPrograms link?

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@rak1507 Bot Factory KoTH

rak1507

what was the mistake in the spec?

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> The winner is the bot which, after some number of rounds, has collected (or had workers collect) the most characters.

I had intended to use a different metric, the bots' scores

rak1507

Ah

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The problem with just counting the characters collected is that a bot can drop and pick up a character over and over again for near infinite points

Lyxal

22:08

Morning again y'all

Wus good?

rak1507

how's the land down under

Lyxal

Still in one piece

Kinda hot

But it might cool down

caird coinheringaahing

@Lyxal sad Tasmania noises

Lyxal

How's Scotland

rak1507

Cold, as usual

caird coinheringaahing

22:13

@rak1507 Still snowing?

rak1507

Not where I am, there hasn't been much snow, but there's been a bit in scotland overall

Unrelated String

there were like thirty seconds of almost snow earlier today in Chapel Hill

Lyxal

@UnrelatedString which one?

Unrelated String

NC

caird coinheringaahing

We had like a meter plus here a couple of days ago, and are projected another 40cm tomorrow

@mods Could we move the featured from the Call for Categories to the Nominations post for the Best of 2020?

CMC: Output [1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,4]

rak1507

22:35

4/⍳4 APL (⎕IO←1)

Adám

23:01

CMC: as ^^ but for a given N (i.e. N copies of each of the integers 1…N).

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám Jelly, 2 bytes Rx

Redwolf Programs

Seriously, someone random-downvoted my unsigned bytes table challenge and my rep is no longer a multiple of ten

Adám

@cairdcoinheringaahing A prescribed solution. Nice. Jelly should allow ℞ for that.

@cairdcoinheringaahing Let me guess R is range 1…N and x is replicate elements, and since there's no argument to replicate with, it falls back to use the single arg there too?

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám Yep. It's monadic, so N is used as both the left and right argument, and x grabs the right argument as its right argument

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I haven't done a KoTH in a while, I should really finish my spec for a Catan-like challenge

rak1507

23:13

APL 4 /∘⍳⍨

Adám

@rak1507 ~~Or simply /⍨⍳~~ No, wait, that doesn't work. Yes, yours is right.

caird coinheringaahing

Q: How many unearned badges do you have? Which of them would you most like to earn/get?

rak1507

1. lots 2. great answer probably

Redwolf Programs

38, I'd most want good answer

(out of the ones I could reasonably obtain)

caird coinheringaahing

1. 31 (counting the "impossible" ones like Beta or Sheriff) 2. One of Steward, Copy Editor or Research Assistant

Redwolf Programs

23:20

Wait why's sheriff impossible?

caird coinheringaahing

"impossible"

I could become a mod, but it's unlikely

Although, I guess of all the active non-mod users on the site, I've come closest

@RedwolfPrograms Constable's probably a better example, as pro-tem mods aren't a thing on the site anymore

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Poop in the Space In the year 3141, folks at the Huge Observatory observed a huge asteroid coming towards them. They knew this day would come, it was the time to leave the Earth for good. To find the right new home for the human race, a crew of scientists drawn up a list of 42 candidate planets a...

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@cairdcoinheringaahing 1; 52, not counting retired and tag badges. 2: Marshall

When I earn Marshall, I'll be the only still-active user who has it.

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