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Zacharý

22:03

Stasoid has 60 necromancer badges... wtf

FreezePhoenix

@Zacharý uh.. your answer is invalid

Zacharý

@FreezePhoenix How so?

FreezePhoenix

42 > 40, and 42 > (30% * 0)

Byte count

Zacharý

o_o

FreezePhoenix

@DJMcMayhem What would we do in this case?

Zacharý

22:14

I Fixed it, no need to worry about it.

FreezePhoenix

:P The bytecount needs fixed also

Zacharý

It's fixed now

FreezePhoenix

Thanks :)

FreezePhoenix

22:27

And D has the same comments as JS

Zacharý

wut

FreezePhoenix

I'm trying to write an answer

Zacharý

@FreezePhoenix And C, C++, C#, Java, Dart, ...

@FreezePhoenix I think Somme really killed it

FreezePhoenix

What... is that

No! I have been foiled!

Zacharý

@ConorO'Brien ... nice job.

This might help: D does not have backslash line continuation.

FreezePhoenix

22:31

OOOOHHHHHHHHHH

Hm...

/opt/somme/somme.rb:74:in `exec': opcode 79 ("o") does not exist (RuntimeError)
	from /opt/somme/somme.rb:61:in `step'
	from /opt/somme/somme.rb:66:in `run'
	from /opt/somme/somme.rb:331:in `<main>'

Zacharý

And also: that

FreezePhoenix

That's an error in his code :P

Zacharý

I know, he's fixing it.

FreezePhoenix

Fixed. This is turning out too fast paced for me to answer :P

why should programs have to run without error? it seems rather arbitrary — Conor O'Brien 1 min ago

@ConorO'Brien congrats... you beat me to writing a JS answer

Zacharý

And they haven't even arrived yet.

Conor O'Brien

22:38

oh you're here

@FreezePhoenix yeah I second this, this guy knows whats up

FreezePhoenix

@Zacharý No, they haven't.

Conor O'Brien

@Zacharý it's so easy tho, it can be literally anything

Zacharý

Well with that terminate in there now, of course

FreezePhoenix

Wait... should we count the help file you wrote?

Conor O'Brien

huh?

Zacharý

22:40

No. That's likely just a file to make sure the code works...

Conor O'Brien

that's how I generated the code: I wrote a base program and that helps me fit it in with other rows

that's why its dead easy to use :P

I wrote that code months ago, I just hadn't committed it

Zacharý

@ConorO'Brien the dest part.

Conor O'Brien

what about it

I count that as "data" not part of the code

I wrote the "code" months ago, not the data bits

Zacharý

Do spaces count in the summation?

FreezePhoenix

73 is with spaces

Conor O'Brien

22:43

check the link under explanation, it explains how columns are summed

tl;dr: no, spaces count as "0"

and ! is 1, etc, " is 2, # is 3, etc.

FreezePhoenix

So... you tried to get to [101, 109, 109, 111, 83]

And used Ruby to generate your code that gets there,

Conor O'Brien

I handwrote the code under the explanation and used ruby to encode it

FreezePhoenix

Gosh you're fast

Conor O'Brien

I know my languages :P

FreezePhoenix

So... how is void main(){import std.stdio;"D".write;} transformed into Asi:8+::2+:47*-m,;? via this formula: 1j U8=XPC#18M<<}9F ,+;q,+;?

Conor O'Brien

22:49

column-wise addition

FreezePhoenix

You guys were both editing at the same time :P

Conor O'Brien

read the answer

> Somme adds up each column and treats the result as commands. For example, the first column is v/1*, which sums to this.

FreezePhoenix

Ah....

Now I get it

Conor O'Brien

@Zacharý wrong format

but that's pretty clever :D

FreezePhoenix

Now, don't you two get into it too far :P

Conor O'Brien

22:53

yeah I'm abstaining until another answer

or two

@FreezePhoenix how does 30% of the code size round? floor? ceil? half up/down? (e.g. if the code was 173 bytes long, could the next answer be 51 bytes longer or 52 bytes longer?)

FreezePhoenix

down.

Zacharý

This is a fast way to gain rep.

FreezePhoenix

Don't you dare

@Zacharý thanks :)

Zacharý

I can't answer again until somebody else does.

Conor O'Brien

and I'm not answering quite yet

Zacharý

23:05

And if stasoid/chance answers, no one'll get a chance.

FreezePhoenix

Current answer

Conor O'Brien

@Zacharý who?

FreezePhoenix

@stasoid or @chance

Zacharý

@ConorO'Brien The two guys who did pretty much all of the answers for the behemoth.

Conor O'Brien

lol

Dennis

23:09

@EriktheOutgolfer That's not how Dodos works. If you try to call main(v) from main(u) and v ≥ u, then main(u) returns u.

FreezePhoenix

hi Dennis

Erik the Outgolfer

@Dennis uh...alright, I thought it worked the other way...

> the function call attempting to compute f(y)

yeah, I thought this was in fact f(y), but I don't really see how to explain it better

Dennis

I'll replace and its argument is returned unchanged with and f(x) returns x.

@FreezePhoenix o/

Erik the Outgolfer

if you aren't in the mood of doing so, I can PR it so that you can just click a button to do it when you are :P

hm, so it looks like I'll have to change some stuff over here (note: there's a hidden link to a library of Dodos functions I've made in there)...

for example

-Rev
	dot -Rev dip

I mean, how does this compute (x, y) → (y - x,) (that's what made me stumble on that issue)

FreezePhoenix

23:26

I dunno.

Erik the Outgolfer

yeah, not everything I say is understandable by all audiences :P

FreezePhoenix

Dodos seems like another one of those borderline languages

Not weird like LOLCODE, and not overly easy to use like javascript

Erik the Outgolfer

well, I don't think it's Turing-Complete though

Zacharý

Even LOLCODE is borderline when it comes to esoteric languages. The only thing really strange are the keywords.

FreezePhoenix

I HAS A COLOR ITZ "GREEN"

Zacharý

23:35

And what does that do?

FreezePhoenix

Sets the variable COLOR to "GREEN"

repl.it/languages/LOLCODE

I HAS A VAR ITZ 0
IM IN YR LP UPPIN YR VAR TIL BOTH SAEM VAR AN 5
  VISIBLE SUM OF VAR AN 1
IM OUTTA YR LP

(save me please)

var j = 0;
for(j = j; j != 5; j++) {
  console.log(j+1);
}

Zacharý

Exactly.

Except j <= 5 isn't there (I think) in the LOLCODE, it's more like j != 5.

FreezePhoenix

Its possible LOLCODE is an ECMAScript variant

Zacharý

Nah, it'd be a derivative of one of the BASICs

FreezePhoenix

(Remember: ECMAScript is the standard, javascript is the language.)

Zacharý

23:44

        @
>1+::.5`|
^       <

FreezePhoenix

? is that

Zacharý

Befunge, AKA actually esoteric

FreezePhoenix

github.com/ConorOBrien-Foxx/Emotinomicon

This has some use:

github.com/ConorOBrien-Foxx/spaced

Zacharý

JSFuck as well...

FreezePhoenix

I'll be scraping this maybe:

github.com/ConorOBrien-Foxx/ffuncs

Zacharý

23:50

NO! He's one of those guys who needlessly uses let!

FreezePhoenix

@Zacharý let is more efficient that var. Trust me.

Zacharý

Still...

FreezePhoenix

@ConorO'Brien you have no problem with the memoize function from github.com/ConorOBrien-Foxx/ffuncs being added to a repo of mine, do you?

OK, I'll just add it to my todo

Thanks!

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