chrome dev mobile, the bar is below now, and its awkward using SE chat with the bar below

huh

@Adám BST which is GMT+1

Nailed it

@Nobody Can you send an image of that?

gist.github.com/xem/206db44adbdd09bac424

@Adám In terms of making custom operators, I decided to have two stages of execution after the entire thing is converted into lists of (Python) functions, where the first will apply the operators using overloaded operators and the second will apply the resulting functions

:D I can edit SO posts now without needing approval

@HyperNeutrino Uh, ok. I'm not sure I understand, but then again, I don't care much about how things are implemented, as long as the UX is good. However, you wanted feedback on your bracket/parens/braces notation. Did you conclude anything regarding operators?

I decided to use alpha and omega to represent the left and right operands as functions and two other characters to get n operands to the left or n operands to the right, and essentially it just treats alpha and omega as an n-ary function (depending on the function). So essentially instead of writing +/ you can also write +(<alpha>/)

It'll make more sense when I actually implement it :P

What are you implementing, @HyperNeutrino?

how custom operators (like in APL) will work in my golflang

oh, nice

Have you named it yet?

nope

@HyperNeutrino user-defined functions or operators?

both

using a Dyalog-like mechansm?

kind of

the golflang is heavily inspired by Jelly and APL :P

> NASA: After experiencing a hair-raising systems failure during a space walk, the team started looking into Node.js

(I mean the ⍺(⍺⍺F⍵⍵)⍵ thing)

yeah that's inspired by APL

Using ⍺⍺ for left operator doesn't make sense though because it's 2 bytes and that's too long :P

true :P

So ⍺⍵ for left/right functions and something else for values

I'm also overriding some functions to work on functions

@Downgoat that's... interesting, I guess?

@J.Salle I call The Onion!

@Ven perhaps

what is an onion

something perl users love to state

?

@HyperNeutrino A (practically) untraceable routing system

oh something like TOR?

(wait... tor is just The Onion Router isn't it?)

TOR stands for The Onion Router

ah ok

it's a 'browser' that implements the onion routing routines

ok

it's firefox isn't it?

But what @Ven meant was that fake news site

oh ok

...I'm not sure I'd call that a "fake news" site.

Also the joke wrt perl was about yearly perl talks named "The state of the onion"

Well not fake news

Satyrical news is more accurate

how about an "alternate facts" site

hi DJ

Hey

@HyperNeutrino if you named your golflang v would it be too close to V?

probably

I mean given that this is the internet and people tend to not capitalize things properly (like I just did, and like you just did :P), it would get confusing

Even if you call it nu ?

@HyperNeutrino what's the golflang?

He hasn't named it yet

@cairdcoinheringaahing list/number-oriented unnamed language

@HyperNeutrino You mean like Cthulhu?

idk never looked at cthulhu

@HyperNeutrino ... Unfortunately, it looks like someone (Xcoder) beat you to that idea as a language :P

well I know list/number isn't an original idea :P

Btw @cairdcoinheringaahing I think there's a typo in your latest sandbox post at (...)and the robbers, given the final grid, have to find the rules used by the robber. Shouldn't it be to find the rules used by the cop ?

I'd comment in the post but I don't have enough rep >.>

@J.Salle Ah, thanks for spotting that. Fixing

@J.Salle brb, upvoting you :P (although I think I've already upvoted your Python answer)

No probs o/

I never posted a python answer though hahahah, only java and jelly

@J.Salle Huh. I must have you confused with another new user.

> only java and jelly

Probably hahahah

the least golfy language and the golfiest language :P

Yeah the Java answer was a trial, then I went to jelly because apparently I hate myself that much

@HyperNeutrino I heard least golfy

@HyperNeutrino Do like ngn/apl; use ⍶ and ⍹ instead of ⍺⍺ and ⍵⍵.

@cairdcoinheringaahing a language literally made by Satan's Son.

+1 to that.

@J.Salle Yeah, that's me :P

@Adám huh that looks cool :D

Yeah I noticed. The dog gave it away

@J.Salle here, take this slap from a language enthusiast.

For any J users out there, is the following really true?

@cairdcoinheringaahing True. But I think it gets more used by mathematicians and scientists.

@cairdcoinheringaahing I've heard that too

J is similar to APL in that it looks like a golflang but is not actually :P

ಠ_ಠ What is wrong with the finance industry?

The finance industry uses K for speed and APL for applications.

@JohnDvorak I don't think I get it? rofl

wait so there's R, S, J, K, C, and D; what other letters are there? ಠ_ಠ

@HyperNeutrino A, B and F

lol

there's also F#, C#, C++

ilke y D:

@cairdcoinheringaahing ~CAPITALISM~

also V but that's a golflang

@HyperNeutrino beza1e1.tuxen.de/one_letter_proglangs.html

Haha, "D is the better C++."

^ see the messages that follow there.

lol

@Adám 49 bytes

Chat uses markdown, right?

@cairdcoinheringaahing Hey, it says M# but not Dennis' M.

@J.Salle Broken markdown, yes.

@Adám Jelly, 0 byte?

@Adám Yeah, I think it only counts production languages

@Adám He's got you there:P

Nope, it lists I and O.

> I is a J-inspired language, which wants to widen the focus on arrays to more data structures.

> O is a stack based language with one letter commands. For example, "io" reads a line of input (i) and then prints it (o).

@cairdcoinheringaahing Listed on TIO as recreational (per my request)

Yeah I just did that because of that page caird linked

@cairdcoinheringaahing The O Language is an esoteric programming language used for code-golf.

'twas a jest >.>

tis but a jest?

P′′ seems like a fairly interesting language: P′′ is primitive formal language from 1964. It was the first language without GOTO proven Turing-complete. Brainfuck is P′′ plus IO.

Huh

@Ven 'twas*

> The E programming language is a quite unique language. It focuses on distributed programming and especially on making that secure through capabilities.

also, GOTO is evile. Use COMEFROM instead

@Neil you missed the CMC tag

(Intercal lol)

@HyperNeutrino You do know why that is, right?

yes

@cairdcoinheringaahing has anyone answered the OEIS challenge in malbolge yet?

Jelly automatically Python-evals input if possible without erroring

Still, it's fun to mess around with it though

@J.Salle There are almost 200 languages used. I can't remember them all. But I don't think so

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah I know, I just thought anything in malbolge would be easy to remember hahahahah

@J.Salle use code snippet to search ಠ_ಠ

@HyperNeutrino no idea how to do that, I'm a SE n00b

CMC: Output ¡¢£¤¥¦©¬®µ½¿€ÆÇÐÑ×ØŒÞßæçðıȷñ÷øœþ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmno‌​pqrstuvwxyz{|}~¶°¹²³⁴⁵⁶⁷⁸⁹⁺⁻⁼⁽⁾ƁƇƊƑƓƘⱮƝƤƬƲȤɓƈɗƒɠɦƙɱɲƥʠɼʂƭʋȥẠḄḌẸḤỊḲḶṂṆỌṚṢṬỤṾẈỴẒȦḂĊ‌​ḊĖḞĠḢİĿṀṄȮṖṘṠṪẆẊẎŻạḅḍẹḥịḳḷṃṇọṛṣṭụṿẉỵẓȧḃċḋėḟġḣŀṁṅȯṗṙṡṫẇẋẏż«»‘’“” (Jelly code page). You may use any inputs if you want.

@cairdcoinheringaahing Jelly, 2 bytes: ØJ

@HyperNeutrino I can do it in 0

well yeah if you take the codepage as input

that doesn't count ಠ_ಠ

but fine Jelly, 0 bytes: tio.run/##y0rNyan8DwLJ@Smp8QWJ6akA

@HyperNeutrino Yay for Jelly hacks :P

ಠ_ಠ

:P

Someone should code a lang called ಠ_ಠ

@J.Salle Already been done

Really?

People are amazing

They can read minds of people ~in the future~ ⚆_⚆

@J.Salle Why do you keep prepending/appending ~ to some words?

emphasis probably

@cairdcoinheringaahing it's a common practice doing that here, it's like the word is waving its arms or something?

'here' as in where I live

@J.Salle If you say so :P

it's ~fancy text~

~very fancy~

_*~**very very fancy**~*_

what is wrong with markdown

hello world ?

Of course, you could just use these?

:P sure

but I'm done I just needed to see if nesting markdown is bad which it isn't

@cairdcoinheringaahing that's waaaay too fancy

@J.Salle Gives you good copy paste practice, a necessity when learning Jelly :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing That's indeed good training

having two monitors also helps a lot

Wait, can the Community user edit locked posts?

I froze my Stack Exchange page

@Neil Good luck. I cannot output clean strings without double quotes.

@Adám took me a few seconds to understand that

@J.Salle Statements about programming languages tend to take much longer for people to understand when about I than about other languages.

@HyperNeutrino What? I doesn't have network capabilities, afaik.

That's completely comprehensible.

@Adám well my MSE format sandbox answer page :P

anyway gtg now o/

@HyperNeutrino cya o/

@Adám I don't think he meant the language

chat is confuse

@J.Salle Especially when people make spelling errors :P

huh, I got starred for that?

@cairdcoinheringaahing it was on purpose though

@Neil 3 times, apparently

Can everyone else see github profile pictures?

They're showing up fine for me

@cairdcoinheringaahing i.sstatic.net/CIYGw.png bad onebox

Huh, they don't work for me. Weird

CMC: Given a list of vectors, determine whether the final shape "drawn" is a regular shape. Example: [(3, 4), (4, -3), (-3, 4), (-4, -3)] => True (forms a square), [(1, 0), (1, 0), (0, 1), (1, 1), (-3, -2)] => False

Define regular shape

@DJMcMayhem regular polyglon

Hmm, this actually looks quite difficult. Any thoughts on transferring it to main?

I don't think it's difficult, it's just complex to implement

Challenging, I guess?

@cairdcoinheringaahing check if it's a duplicate lol

@Adám I just realised that you put Fourier on the app ad :D

@BetaDecay the transform?

which answer from codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/143772/… should I accept?

@Lembik Since you tagged it as code-golf, you should probably accept the overall shortest answer?

@J.Salle ok but I feel that the javascript one needs to be tested and I don't know how to do that

can you test it?

Hello

@Mr.Xcoder You're back!

Yeah I am

Are links on profiles of suspended users disabled?

@cairdcoinheringaahing You up for some Jelly training? I miss it soo much

@Mr.Xcoder As in the links on your profile? Yes, so that you can't be targeted as a "punishment" for getting suspended

o ok

@Mr.Xcoder I feel really bad now. I have a bunch of homework so have to do, so bit right now unfortunately D:

@cairdcoinheringaahing Good luck doing them all! I've had a ton too today, and finally I'm done with them

@Lembik which answer is it?

@Mr.Xcoder Huh, weird. You can chat, but your profile still says you have 1 rep

it doesn't?

@cairdcoinheringaahing It takes a little while for the rep to be reinstalled

@EriktheOutgolfer it does for me too

not anymore now

for me it says "3475" which is also weird

if you mean that

Nope 12551

@HyperNeutrino Now I have to catch up with you

@J.Salle codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/143796/9206

12551 is your normal

yes

That is displayed for me

for me it...what is displayed for you? for me it displays that cache 3475

Yeah, it's back for me now

but not on chat? Weird

it could need up to an hour to catch up?

That is the network rep, which is not reinstalled yet

Woah a penguin with sunglasses

@Mr.Xcoder I renamed the Deorst/Cthulhu room for the new name of 2Deorstv (Levant)

Good

actually, can anyone test codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/143810/9206 for me please!

I saw but couldn't respond

I have no idea how to do it

@BetaDecay It is just the userscript background.

@Mr.Xcoder Yep. Imagine what your profile would look like with sunglasses :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing Umm, you will see how it looks soon

@Lembik this is hard to test because rottentomatoes' policies on their API usage

@J.Salle It's highly unclear to me what they mean for us. I mean I haven't signed a contract with them

and I am not even in the same country as them

and I am not selling anything or making any money

@Lembik I've said it before. There is no point in accepting an answer. Most code golfs don't, and it just isn't done a lot anymore. Plus, you avoid all this hassle about it

not much can be done about it though

@cairdcoinheringaahing ok :) Although Shaggy might be disappointed

I would still like to know if the Stratos answer works!

@Lembik Shaggy's an adult, I'm sure he'll get over it :P

@Lembik No one can really test it, because it is Java-based

@cairdcoinheringaahing how do you know!?

@Mr.Xcoder is that a Java joke? Sorry for being dim

No

why can't Java based code be run?

It can be ran

@Lembik He is quite open about being older than basically everyone here :P

Not on TiO = hard to test

@cairdcoinheringaahing ah :)

@J.Salle yes!

It's just that no one bothers to install a JavaIDE to test it :D

ah yes :)

Anyway, I have homework to do, toodles o/

\o

@cairdcoinheringaahing cya \o

in any case... I have added a bounty now for the more interesting (in my view) find-a-movie challenge

@cairdcoinheringaahing bye

it's even almost useful :)

If anyone knows of a news source or website that decides to feature the Tetris in CGOL challenge, could they post it in a comment on that challenge?

that was pretty cool

hacker news did iirc

hence an uptick of off-topic questions :p

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15246348

@Lembik I just read that same comment hahahah

@Lembik heh that's a comment there

CMC: Given an integer N, return all the integers K such that 1 ≤ K < N and gcd(K, N) = 1.

@EriktheOutgolfer yes!

56 -> [1, 3, 5, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 23, 25, 27, 29, 31, 33, 37, 39, 41, 43, 45, 47, 51, 53, 55]

Basically all the coprimes with N in the range [1, N)

jelly, 6 bytes (untested): ṖgỊ¥Ðf

@Mr.Xcoder SOGL, 7 bytes: H∫gH‽FO probably correct

@dzaima Incorrect, it includes N itself

that's weird, given gcd(N, N) = N

Bug probably

@EriktheOutgolfer Also g³ỊµÐf (6 bytes)

I'm sure we can do it in 5, not sure how though

but does Ðf make a range?

Yes

Doesn't it?

no it errors

What @EriktheOutgolfer?

hmm...

still doesn't save any for my approach though

@Mr.Xcoder SOGL, 6 bytes: ∫gH‽FP - the reason itself was printed because I didn't use an implicit printing disabling output (and which I attemted to fix by decreasing the number of iterations before..)

@Mr.Xcoder Jelly, 5 bytes: g€=1T

Now Leaky comes in and outgolfs us..

Lol

@LeakyNun I can do it in 4.

yes me too

and the approaches are similar

No we cannot

Actually

It doesn't work

yeah

but we can do it in 5

VTC request?

@Mr.Xcoder Jelly, 4 bytes: gRỊT

This sounds like a reverse auction

@LeakyNun Yeah, I had smth like that in mind

"Here's 6 bytes" "I can do it in 5!"

@Adám Huh, I didn't know that

@Mr.Xcoder APL, 6: ⍸1=⊢∨⍳

@LeakyNun Are you up for some Jelly training?

And Erik too?

not rn

I just went to my room

ok

He's up for some grit.

I got a million things to do

Ok, sure

Good luck I guess

wait

I think it's actually gṖỊT

gRỊT and gṖỊT both work

but the former includes n

keep gRỊT for the lulz

what's Ṗ? Searching Jelly's wiki is failing me

@EriktheOutgolfer Well GCD(N,N)>1, so it gets excluded

oh

@Neil z[:-1]

anyways the latter is more effective

ಠ_ಠ

nvm

how does that replace R?

@Neil It forms R[:-1]

Basically

Like [1,N) instead of [1, N]. It operates on an implicit range

@EriktheOutgolfer @LeakyNun 3 bytes now: gÐṂ

@Mr.Xcoder nope

why?

@Mr.Xcoder you win

1 -> [1]

doesn't it return a list of 1s or am I tired?

@EriktheOutgolfer the latter

btw not really focused atm

nor am I

just a random idea

wait

am I mistaken or you just outgolfed Dennis???

@EriktheOutgolfer I did

it's quite different approach imo

should post it

I am

@EriktheOutgolfer Posted. Thanks!

Woah Yass! It's a first for me :DD

btw dennis being 100% optimal is a total myth, I have outgolfed him in the past too, and user61231 did too