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7:00 PM
Yeah but he has some extraordinary solutions oftentimes
 
because he has much math
 
Yes
 
but iirc ÐṂ existed back then
 
Just about to ask lol
 
saw that
 
7:01 PM
@Mr.Xcoder Whoa how did I pull ahead of you so quickly D:
 
Maybe It's the "non-competing" thing that was removed?
 
Well he actually made the language. One would expect him to come up with solutions most people wouldn't think of straight away
 
@J.Salle mostly chain breaking
 
@Riker Stormtrooper heads are upside down
 
@HyperNeutrino Just came back and got +30 in 3 mins, so you should manage to keep up :P </badjoke>
 
7:02 PM
:P
(+1 to :P messages)
 
Will that answer get an explanation?
 
@Neil Done.
Mine or someone else's, in fact?
 
ah, so this is auto-ranging again
 
Kind of, yeah
 
and btw I think I can prove your answer is correct
input 1: [1] g 1 -> [1] -> [1]
 
7:06 PM
Well it is always correct.
Because n ≥ 2
 
input 2: [1, 2] g 2 -> [1, 2] -> [1]
 
seems right so far... go on
 
input 3: [1, 2, 3] g 3 -> [1, 1, 3] -> [1, 2]
input 4: [1, 2, 3, 4] g 4 -> [1, 2, 1, 4] -> [1, 3]
after that it would always be correct
 
Yeah
Nice
 
I feel like posting my sandboxed challenge right now but I'm not sure if I should >.>
 
7:09 PM
although I'm not really sure if there's any n such as ([1, 2, 3, ..., n]) g (n) Ṃ > 1
 
@J.Salle link?
@EriktheOutgolfer well 1 g n is always 1...
 
@EriktheOutgolfer of course not
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

J. Sallecode-golf string String Stairs Disclaimer: This is the first challenge I propose. Any and all feedback is welcome. If this is a duplicate, please point it out. I'm currently at work, so I'll edit this post later today with more information if necessary. Goal The goal of this challenge is to, ...

 
@EriktheOutgolfer course there isn't
 
@HyperNeutrino yup
 
7:10 PM
lol ninja'd
 
Will keep this in the archives, like, forever
 
@Mr.Xcoder frame it and hand on a wall
hang*
 
@J.Salle Good idea
 
I think you probably can; it's been there for around 48 hours and has +4/-0 so it can probably be posted now.
@J.Salle you can edit chat messages lol
 
48 is considered little now iirc
I think now it's 72
 
7:11 PM
really
 
Oh come on
 
I sometimes keep it in there for a week
 
yeah, since caird correctly noted the sandbox is kinda declining
 
I sometimes have like 2-3 or more week old challenges that just rot and die
 
@HyperNeutrino I know, it's just that doing the * thing comes automatically
 
7:12 PM
@J.Salle Are you gonna be available on PPCG for the next couple hours? I post challenges when I'm gonna be available for as long as I could. Just if any clarification is needed
 
ah ok :P
 
If it is well received after like 1 day go ahead and post it
 
@HyperNeutrino I have months-old challenges in there that I don't feel have been looked on by enough eyes yet
 
I once got +3/-0 in under 10 minutes so I posted after 15 hours
 
@dzaima probably, I only leave work in 2 hours and I'm not doing anything right now hahahah
 
7:12 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer that too
 
for example 0/0-score 0-comment challenges I don't really feel are ready at all
 
@dzaima I make the mistake of posting right before I have to leave school sometimes which gives a 30 minute gap for my question to be downvoted and closed. Never happened yet though...
@EriktheOutgolfer yeah for those I link into chat if I think it's worth it; sometimes I just let it die
 
in my case I just don't know what I'll do with them yet
 
TIO should have the following features: 1. Include the [bytes](link) thing for languages that require it and 2. CMC mode
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one of them is "[ABANDONED]"
@Mr.Xcoder 1 should be trivial, 2 should be too although not completely sure
 
7:14 PM
in talk.tryitonline.net, Sep 15 at 15:29, by Pavel
@Dennis : In the CodeGolf permalink format, for languages with a SBCS make bytes a link to the codepage used.
 
Okx
CMC: Fetch a particular URL's content. do not follow redirects
 
@Okx That was a main challenge IIRC
 
@dzaima I know all those have been feature-requested, but Dennis doesn't want to add them (or doesn't have time)
 
Okx
/shrug
 
We keep asking for CMC mode for months now
 
7:16 PM
@Mr.Xcoder lately dennis's activity has been declining...?
 
@EriktheOutgolfer I think 2 is trivial and 1 harder
 
@Mr.Xcoder ATaco's userscript
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Slightly
 
Ok I'm gonna post it. brb
 
7:18 PM
o/
 
bye
 
@Mr.Xcoder The problem is that that doesn't work if the code contains newlines
 
@DJMcMayhem Oh didn't consider that. Umm, you are right. Maybe he could do something like [Language, X bytes](link) though.
 
Or Language, X Bytes: [Try it online!]()
 
7:22 PM
@DJMcMayhem That too
 
Oh yeah, also what if the code contains backticks?
 
@DJMcMayhem I assume calamity will ensue?
 
@DJMcMayhem He would use double backticks, those escape the `
You know what, markdown?!
Would fail if the code is one backtick though
 
``` doesn't work does it?
Nope
 
@J.Salle backtick-slash-backtick-backtick does
 
7:25 PM
CMC: Output <backslash><backtick><backtick><backtick><backslash><backtick> but all displayed in code-markdown
 
ugh...
 
oh god
 
Someone should link to Sandbox
 
You're welcome

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...
 
Thanks! (P.S: ಠ_ಠ)
 
7:27 PM
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Q: Build me some string stairs

J. SalleString Stairs Disclaimer: This is the first challenge I propose. Any and all feedback is welcome. If this is a duplicate, please point it out. Here's a link to the sandbox post. Goal The goal of this challenge is to, given a string and an integer, print the string into blocks of that integer'...

 
Bonus points if you additionally output the markdown you used to display it, also in code
 
\ ` ` ` \ ` works apparently
 
That looks like it has spaces
 
that's because it has spaces
rofl
 
Then it isn't valid
 
7:29 PM
\```\` this won't work probably
it does
 
@J.Salle You can play with that in the Sandbox
 
@J.Salle Nice! What's the markdown on that?
(I'm a jerk)
 
@Mr.Xcoder Already did and it already worked
 
Oh ok then
 
7:31 PM
The markdown is ` \```\` ` I guess?
 
Can I get some feedback on this? (Ignore the current comments; I changed the challenge entirely)
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

HyperNeutrinoDeep Search a list code-golf decision-problem For this challenge, a list is considered valid if and only if it consists entirely of integers and valid lists (recursive definitions \o/). For this challenge, given a valid list and an integer, return a list of all depths at which the integer can be...

 
@HyperNeutrino I like it
+1 from me
 
@HyperNeutrino Why do I think that there is a really easy/sort Jelly answer for that? I can't be bothered to try and find it, but it seems like there is
 
yay :)
@cairdcoinheringaahing the best method I can think of right now is to go through each depth (using depth and range builtin or depth and foreach), and see if that element exists at that depth
 
I think it should be short, short in Jelly (as caird said)
 
7:39 PM
well Jelly is (almost) always short, so... yeah
 
No, like, way shorter than other languages
 
@HyperNeutrino +1'd for the recursive definitions
 
But I may not try it since it is in the Sandbox
 
:P
@Mr.Xcoder Hm maybe. I might try it and see how it compares to Python (I can try it :P) and I'll get back to you on that one
 
CMC: Find a challenge from 2011 or earlier, and outgolf the current winner.
 
7:41 PM
That should be trivial
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing current competing or non-competing winner?
 
@J.Salle either. Duplicate languages aren't allowed though :P
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Done
 
7:55 PM
@J.Salle Sorry, I somehow failed to see that spec
 
@Mr.Xcoder Hahahahah no problem
 
You can delete your comment now, deleted mine too
 
Done :)
 
8:12 PM
@Mr.Xcoder Jelly: 8 bytes; Python: 140 bytes
I don't think it's too biased.
 
@HyperNeutrino ಠ_ಠ
 
@NewMainPosts ..that challenge is perfect for Charcoal. Surprised it isn't less
 
Also I think it can get shorter in Python
 
ah ok
 
Think (?)
 
8:14 PM
should I post now then? (then you can try to outgolf me :P)
 
You can post it whenever you want
 
Oh I'm stupid! I left one of my helper functions in the bytecount which I pasted into the final single lambda! facepalm
(90 bytes actually, lol)
 
Hence the I think it can get shorter
 
If you post it within the next few minutes, my mom is not going to tell me to go to bed while solving it :-)
(actually I might not post any solution)
 
8:18 PM
@Mr.Xcoder posted
 
Not there for me yet
 
capped
huh I should've waited for cap to reset to post lol ;P
 
Why would you post a challenge when you cap lol
 
I had like +196 and I totally forgot
because I've been getting like no rep for the past 2 weeks
ayy 2017 rep on SO dab
 
@HyperNeutrino ಠ_ಠ
 
8:22 PM
nvm I lied
I've been getting more than I recall huh
my rep graph went flat near the end of august lol
 
Have you deleted it?
 
oh wait of course that was when I was on vacation ಠ_ಠ
@Mr.Xcoder ?
 
nvm
@HyperNeutrino Can we return 1-indexed results?
 
yes
see specs
 
posted
 
8:24 PM
owow you outgolfed me by a lot :P
However, your solution is invalid.
so rip
 
I just saw too
Lol
 
(when it somehow works for the first test case and seems correct but actually isn't rip)
 
My solution was completely off
lol
 
lol
I have no proof but I think my 8 bytes is optimal or at least very close
 
@HyperNeutrino Guess it uses ¡ or smth?
 
8:28 PM
I won't disclose any information about my solution to you until a Jelly answer is posted, sorry.
 
ಠ_ಠ ok
I won't bother to try again anyway
 
actually telling you that info doesn't help you anyway
my answer is no it doesn't use that :P
 
gtg o/
 
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Q: Deep Search a List

HyperNeutrinoFor this challenge, a list is considered valid if and only if it consists entirely of integers and valid lists (recursive definitions \o/). For this challenge, given a valid list and an integer, return a list of all depths at which the integer can be found. Example Let's consider list [1, [2, [...

 
@HyperNeutrino Clearly someone got to you first. Who was it, the CIA? The FBI? :P
 
8:32 PM
o/
@cairdcoinheringaahing ???
 
@HyperNeutrino You aren't talking about your Jely solution, clearly someone has bribed you not to reveal it :P
Just ignore me, I tend to ramble :D
 
?
I'm still not used to seeing deleted posts disappear in SO lol
 
@HyperNeutrino I'm guessing that there are a lot?
 
not too many that I see that get deleted as I'm on that page
 
Clearly I am good at golfing. Posted a answer and in the first minute, someone golfed off 6 bytes.
 
8:47 PM
:P
(and then you got outgolfed by 30+ bytes)
 
@HyperNeutrino Well there's a reason I'm making Verbosity :P (new language)
 
See, if I downvote you for every time you posted just ":P" (or anyone for that matter) who'd run out of rep first, you or me?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Neither, because he doesn't have 6,000 posts for you to downvote
 
ಠ_ಠ
Obviously you would; you'd get to 1 a lot faster. It's called suspensions.
 
8:54 PM
Oh, I hadn't thought of that
 
And also I have (way) over double your rep so you duh :P
 
@HyperNeutrino Yeah, but I don't lose rep for downvoting questions
 
He has 321 posts, so the max number he could lose is 642
 
but since most of my posts are answers, and I have over 3 times your rep, you lose
 
8:56 PM
@HyperNeutrino +1 for the number of posts :P
 
:P
(there goes another 2 rep)
 
@HyperNeutrino You get downvoted?
 
well I posted another :P :P
 
CMC: Output your rep/post ratio
 
39.83800623053 rep per post
:P
 
8:58 PM
39 posts per rep
GG
 
65.7639405204 here.
 
@DJMcMayhem Approximately 4 rep per post
 
Posts per rep?
Think about it
 
well everyone wrote it backwards :P (everyone = both of us)
 
@Christopher2EZ4RTZ Well doi
 
8:59 PM
> CMC: Output your rep/post ratio
 
Fixed
 
@DJMcMayhem 34.28089887640449
 
@Christopher2EZ4RTZ How many 0 vote posts do you have?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing you do not have 842 posts ಠ_ಠ
 
I have 32
rep per post
@cairdcoinheringaahing 16
 
9:01 PM
@HyperNeutrino I can't math. ~40 rep per post
 
huh 1/6th of my answers are at 0 votes
 
I've given away more than I've earned in bounties, so if you factor those out, mine is actually 68.8308550186
 
Almost 40% of my answers have zero
 
is this a CMC or a get outrepped by DJ
 
9:04 PM
@DJMcMayhem Post means both answers and questions?
 
Yes
 
@Christopher2EZ4RTZ Judging from the comments, I'd ask Jacob
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Well he was wrong about it and we talked about it in chat
 
@DJMcMayhem 40.21169355
 
1/7 of my posts are 0 voted, and 12 of those 15 are from Add++ answers :P
@DJMcMayhem I still can't math. 33.9126214 here
 
9:06 PM
40 of my 262 answers (15%) are 0-voted and most of those are from back when I was an inexperienced golfer and when I used Java
 
brb making java answers -1
 
@HyperNeutrino are you still doing that thing where you get people to awed bounties to unappreciated answers?
 
23.5859!

R doesn't get a lot of love here...
 
I tried but it died after people didn't seem enthusiastic enough about it
 
@Giuseppe Lol that was making fun of DJ's typo
 
9:08 PM
If you have an answer you would like to see bountied, you can ask me in chat and I'd consider it
 
@HyperNeutrino i have one
 
@HyperNeutrino Shame. 3 of my answers got nominated, then it stopped before the bounty got awarded :(
 
rip :(
 
I wonder how many of my 0 voted answers are in the top 3 best score in the question
 
9:11 PM
@HyperNeutrino I do have a few that are kinda cool if you wanna see them
 
how many? if it's not too many you can just paste the links here all together (to block oneboxing)
 
@DJMcMayhem Pyth: "roughly 33";P
 
@HyperNeutrino on my brain-flak that is not as golfed as the answer up top (Riley wrote a sub 200 byte answer)
 
Hm. I think these are interesting but I wouldn't consider bountying any of them because in my honest opinion I don't think they're bounty-worthy. I might consider the ASM-Brainfuck one.
and also I can't bounty that one right now :P
also I really shouldn't've posted that question right before capping :P
 
9:16 PM
Wonder why. Looks around
 
@HyperNeutrino why couldn't you bounty it anyway? That makes no sense XD (not that you should but you said can't)
Also rep cap? nice never done that
 
@Christopher2EZ4RTZ there's already an active bounty on it
(I meant right now :P)
 
Lol
The odds
 
huh I wonder why I have over 1.6k profile views
 
Me mostly
I have gotten 3 bounties in total on 2 answers
 
9:19 PM
@HyperNeutrino A way more interesting conjecture is who would get to 1 first if I would downvote everytime you say :P. Because we are closer in rep (ignore suspensions, just in theory)
 
probably me
 
Not sure though
 
depends; do we keep getting more rep as time progresses?
and does repcap and votecap exist in this hypothetical war?
 
@HyperNeutrino Yes, the rate should be known in order to capculate those (bah)
@HyperNeutrino they do exist
 
9:20 PM
grr
and also how many of my posts have you voted on already? because you can't change your vote on many of them
 
@Christopher2EZ4RTZ Shh I never received a bounty! Like ever
 
Also I can survive your attack by just not posting because I literally do not have enough posts to run out of rep
 
@HyperNeutrino not sure. You would probably lose a lot of rep if "I was deleted"
 
you can at most remove 644 of my rep which is just over 5% of my rep
@Mr.Xcoder huh maybe
 
@HyperNeutrino also true
 
9:21 PM
@Mr.Xcoder I don't even have accepts :P despite having shortest answer
 
@HyperNeutrino Indeed. None of us would reach 1.
Interesting
 
I have an accept from a for FGITW'ing everyone
@Mr.Xcoder thus, like every war ever, nothing is really achieved in the end
:P
 
@Mr.Xcoder I have this bookmark in my browser:
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A: Convert a TIO answer to a CMC answer

NeilJavaScript (ES6), 73 bytes f= s=>s.replace(/...(.*)](.*)[^]+ (.*)[^]+: (.*) ".*/,"$1$2: [`$3`]($4)") <textarea rows=8 cols=75 oninput=o.textContent=this.value==f(this.value)?``:f(this.value)></textarea><pre id=o>

 
@HyperNeutrino What war?
 
well not really a war I guess just a reputational assault :P
 
9:23 PM
@Adám yep, I know of that to
 
now a more interesting scenario is whether or not I'd get down to 1 if I lost 2 rep for every message I post only containing :P
 
@HyperNeutrino I have a proposal: Let's stop comparing each other's reputation from now on. Agree?
 
@Mr.Xcoder The only time a PPCG answer was really truly useful – well, for codegolf anyway.
 
@Mr.Xcoder Sure, agreed :P
@Adám Conjecture: PPCG things are never useful outside of PPCG
(not true btw; half of the coding I've learned is from you guys :P)
 
@Adám there is also a challenge regarding styling a matrix by Stewie Griffin which is actually very helpful oftentimes when It comes to challenges with matrix formats that do not match your languages's standard "template"
Way too many repetitions
 
9:28 PM
@HyperNeutrino I actually once posted a codegolf challenge because I couldn't find an algorithm I needed for real work.
 
so you used codegolf as help center ಠ_ಠ (:P /s)
 
@HyperNeutrino Yup. Brazenly. Or call it outsourcing, if you want.
 
CMC: 7 random small items to put in a pill bottle
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Ian H.Digital Calendar Given a date, output the X and Y position of the current day of the date on a digital calendar. The digital calender is sort of the calender that gets shown when you click on your computers clock (atleast on windows), and it looks something like this: If we assume that the gi...

 
@Christopher2EZ4RTZ 7 types of pills
 
9:31 PM
@HyperNeutrino Different items
 
@Christopher2EZ4RTZ APL, 3 bytes: ?⍨7
 
Like a die
 
@Mr.Xcoder "roughly 33 is golfier
(BTW, I don't speak Pyth)
 
gtg o/
 
@Adám which challenge? Now I'm curious
 
9:37 PM
@Mr.Xcoder There's a TacoScript for that.
 
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Q: Convert header levels to numbers

AdámIntroduction Nodes in tree structures (e.g. headings in a long document, law paragraphs, etc.) are often created by assigning a specific header level (h1, h2, etc.) to each item, but outputted with additional node numbers for each level (1., 1.1., etc.), e.g.: 1. Intro (h1) 1.1. About this (h2)...

 
9:58 PM
@HyperNeutrino Have you not done that? It's actually more helpful than going to SO :P
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Dominic A.Got Your PIN! code-golfcombinatorics math sequence I bet I can write down your PIN! 0000 0001 0002 0003 ... 9999. Task: Write a program that outputs a string containing all possible four digit PINs. The string should not contain any whitespace (trailing newline is okay). Score: Length of p...

 
10:21 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing I find TNB is often more helpful than SO because question asking style doesn't exist :P
also \o/ my 8 byte solution is exactly the same as Dennis's answer for deep search a list :D :P :P
 
Well yah we are like why does this not work?

n hj87"PO{P{}PL:{}}"
 
:P
that's true, half of our help questions are completely not understandable by any "foreigners"
 
The answer is I should not have the last L:
I want to make a language called keyboard mash
 
@NewSandboxedPosts Oooh, I really like that challenge
 
@HyperNeutrino Imagine me getting APL help on SO?
 
10:29 PM
:P
@Adám there are APL questions and answers on SO but very few :P so yeah I guess :P
 
CMR (chat mini riddle) what's the shortest possible sequence that contains all 4 digit PINs?
Sequence, not sauce dangit
 
@DJMcMayhem Oh, I thought the sauce thing was the riddle.
Now it is just a CMQ.
 
@DJMcMayhem sauce?????? how did you even get that
:P
is this a trick question or is it just the length-10000 sequence of numbers 0000 - 9999
 
@HyperNeutrino It is for the new sandboxed challenge.
 
oh I get it now
 
10:33 PM
@HyperNeutrino mobile. Autocorrect
 
ah lol
 
10:50 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Peter TaylorCount bicubic graphs fastest-code graph-theory sequence This question assumes basic knowledge of graph theory terminology. A cubic graph is a simple graph whose vertices each have exactly 3 edges. A bipartite graph is a vertex whose vertices can be divided into two disjoint sets such that ever...

 
hello
is barely working code considered a game/challenge?
 
What?
Please expand
 
@Webster No. We have challenges to make new code to solve specific tasks.
 
I'm trying to get some javascript to work
if it had to be put in a question it might be "why doesnt this work" or "how do I get this to work"
i'm looking for js help
any suggestions where I can find that?
 
@Webster But thank you for asking. A lot of people post non-functioning code here, asking us fix it. Their questions invariably get downvoted and deleted.
 
10:57 PM
oh yeah its not ready to be a question
its readyto be fixed though
can you think of a resource I can use to help me solve this?
 
@Webster This site is for competitions usually allowing answers in any language. And each answerer comes up with their own algorithm.
 
I've seen that, looks very fun
 
I can see how programming can be fun
 
Good! if you need help with JS i may be able to help
 
10:59 PM
@Webster It sure is, but if you get started here, you may never get around to solving the problem you came for. Just so that you have been warned!
 
I'm just a designer that put "web developer" on his resume
now my neck is on the line
 
@Webster Look it over a bit more, and if you still don't know why it doesn't work ask over at Stack Overflow
 

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