The Nineteenth Byte

Funky Computer Man

00:19

@Pavel Thanks that was pretty fun.

Pavel

Thanks!

Funky Computer Man

It is the kind of challenge that I really enjoy in Brain-Flak

It looks like I have the longest answer though

here's to hoping someone answers in Java

Pavel

Someone did

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A: Dizzy integer enumeration

Java 8, 15 bytes n->~n/2*~-(n&2) EDIT: Is Java really the shortest of the non-golfing languages?! o.Ô Explanation: Try it here. I'll use the table below as reference of what's happening. ~n is equal to -n-1. Since integer division in Java automatically floors on positive integers and ce...

Funky Computer Man

Oh well.

I did notice there is a clojure answer that is longer than mine anyway, so I guess I got what I wanted

Pavel

Yep

Kinda dissapointed you have the only esolang submission.

HyperNeutrino

00:35

@Mr.Xcoder At this rate I'll never catch up to your reputation; I keep bountying lol. I'm pretty satisfied with the amount of reputation I get and it's going up, but way more slowly than yours :)

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Q: "KNOT" or "NOT"?

Write a program that processes an ASCII art representation of a tangled string and decides whether or not it can be untangled into a simple loop. The tangle is represented using the characters - and | to represent horizontal and vertical segments, and + to represent corners. Places where the stri...

HyperNeutrino

Hey I forgot you existed @NFQ!

PhiNotPi

Is NFQ broken?

HyperNeutrino

I don't think so...?

It just linked "KNOT" or "NOT" which I just bountied a few minutes ago

PhiNotPi

Like, maybe I haven't been paying attention, but I haven't seen it very often at all, when it's supposed to post everything that gets a bounty.

HyperNeutrino

00:47

IIRC we don't get bounties extremely often, but I forgot about NFQ because I haven't seen a post from it in a while now

maybe it was broken previously

ಠ_ಠ NFQ rickroll wtf

Also just making sure, language-design is still on-topic here right?

PhiNotPi

yes

HyperNeutrino

k

I have a general idea but I'm not sure if it's specified enough

The idea is to make a programming language that only uses balanced (), kind of like Brain-Flak but much more restricted

I'm not sure if that's well-specified or interesting enough so I'd have to sandbox it first to see if it's well-received

anyway gtg for a bit lol

Scrooble

(Unary)

HyperNeutrino

01:00

yeah I might ban that but that's not really an objective ban, so I might just design the task so that a similar approach wouldn't be very competitive

@Scrooble Is your profile picture something from The Great Wall or is my memory failing me?

Scrooble

Nope. Worldspine Wurm from the game Magic: The Gathering.

HyperNeutrino

huh ok

it looked like that one worm thing from that movie and since it's extremely green I thought it was that :P

Scrooble

This one?

HyperNeutrino

well from that movie yes

didn't the weird demented thingy side have like worms drill through a mountain to release units or something like that

I can't find the scene on YT but I remember something... unless that was from another movie rip

Scrooble

01:24

Dunno. Haven't seen it.

HyperNeutrino

ah ok

HyperNeutrino

01:37

waiting for nmp

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Q: Distinct Reversible Primitive Binary Necklaces

Introduction - What is a necklace? A necklace is something that OEIS people are obsessed with. The OEIS challenge has like 5 necklace sequences. A binary necklace of length n is a loop with n beads that are either 0 or 1. Two necklaces are the same if one can be rotated to become the other, and...

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HyperNeutrino

@NewMainPosts thanks!

Luis Mendo

02:03

@FunkyComputerMan It's also the average of code points rounded

Funky Computer Man

Oh wow. Thats a pretty funny coincidence

Luis Mendo

:-)

Funky Computer Man

I wonder how many ways there are to do that

Luis Mendo

I smell a challenge

HyperNeutrino

lol I thought that J being the average of APL's codepoints was the original intention by the statement "Is J the average position of APL" lol

[too bad it's not the exact average :(]

rip I can't get any upvote notifications until I've gotten at least 100 reputation

waiting for NSP this time :P

I really hope this isn't a dupe; I tried finding this challenge but didn't find anything lol

anyway gtg lol

Adám

02:24

@FunkyComputerMan Wait, that wasn't your intention?

Funky Computer Man

No I meant its the average of the positions on the keyboard

or at least my keyboard

Adám

@FunkyComputerMan How do you measure avg kbd position?

Funky Computer Man

I took their positions as vectors and averaged them.

It wasn't terribly scientific. But after getting out a tape measure I have confirmed that J is the average position on the keyboard

Luis Mendo

Probably with "rounding" too

Funky Computer Man

yeah it lands somewhere on the key

Luis Mendo

02:33

So J is the center of mass of APL

John Dvorak

You are assuming QWERTY

Funky Computer Man

I'm assuming a bit more than QWERTY

if you have a different horizontal shift it might not work

Luis Mendo

? If horizontal shift is the same for all keys it shouldn't matter

Funky Computer Man

If the rows are shifted relative to each other much more than on my keyboard its likely to be H instead

John Dvorak

on DSK, J is on the bottom row but neither of A, P, L is.

Funky Computer Man

02:36

On my roommate's keyboard it is H

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Finding Snakes in a nest code-golf binary-matrix decision-problem Challenge Given a binary matrix and a binary string, determine if that binary string can be found starting at any point in the matrix and moving in any direction at any subsequent point to form the binary string. That is, can the...

Luis Mendo

@FunkyComputerMan Ah, true. I thought you meant shift as distance among neighbour keys within each row

Adám

@FunkyComputerMan I think that the rounded avg is much neater: tryapl.org/?a=%u2395A%5B%u230A0.5+3%F7%u2368+/…

Funky Computer Man

I don't know what I'm looking at :P

Pavel

02:52

@Adám I can finally say that I know what some of those characters are for.

Funky Computer Man

Here's some haskell to calculate the average keyboard position of a word:

https://tio.run/##fZLbUtswEIbv/RQbTz0jTZwQuXcM7kxaoAdCG07lULhYExF7KlseWRAuePd05djEMEkv7JF29//0r1YpVn@lUstllpfaWNhHi8NTtJn2PKMXFcTwxz@5PDg9v774/mvqh/74bP/w67cfRxNa31x9@f3557F/53mPRYUP8lDa@xSkkrksLLBU4mxXZZXlHry8huMYXILQIxfWNpVmkVWSAgL6sInkGOB5c2mnusrIXQFKWitNy222wJzpXm/ECcZGgQi7tPc1geBb9KLWC9Kz7QDBeV8EH7cxopoR/Z8RESNqGN2LYAN3uPvxuu1Jo8IwqbErNcOyNPo5y9FKQM57vU6AJTAA9q6EjiJgN2bcsAtUzkG7hj1qHgKoWxi9zcSrVH1DYtP8jH4sZuSwVQxagTv4SRqcSyibKVYOQFCqUbKY23SdCVYzuK1bHnxiuKPCZEdxzh60mimXECFGLnXLEhEm9RJFP3HhPm2p1L0A@vgrlTwstJmNGx8xrO92CK27IbAcS@i8NpLlmBVxabLCfugS/PF04i@X/wA

Pavel

@Adám How does ⍳ work when you apply it to a string?

Adám

@FunkyComputerMan Rounded average of "APL": ⎕A⍳'APL' indices of the characters in the Alphabet. +/ sum. 3÷⍨ div-by-three. 0.5+ add a half. ⌊ floor. ⎕A[…] index into the Alphabet.

Pavel

Ah, I didn't know what ⎕A was.

Funky Computer Man

Ok makes sense. I can't see most of the characters unfortunately

Adám

02:55

@Pavel Remember. APL doesn't really have traditional data-types, only arrays. X⍳Y finds the indices of the major cells of Y among the major cells of X. A "string" is just a character vector, so the major cells are character scalars (i.e. characters) and ⍳ will find the index for each one.

@FunkyComputerMan Really? What do you see?

HyperNeutrino

Is the box before the A meant to be a box?

Funky Computer Man

⎕ and ⍨ are boxes for me

Pavel

@FunkyComputerMan ⎕ actually is a box

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Funky Computer Man

Oh ok

Is that the first one or the second one?

Pavel

The first one

Adám

02:57

@FunkyComputerMan The second is a "frown": fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2368/index.htm

Funky Computer Man

It looks different for me when I type it vs when Adám types it.

Pavel

@Adám That should be ctrl+~, right? But that gives me ⌺.

Adám

How about this? ⍨

@Pavel No, it is APL+Shift+T (for Tilde). APL may be Ctrl by you.

Pavel

Ah. Right.

Funky Computer Man

Actually I don't think it ever was a box, I just needed to zoom in.

Adám

02:59

@FunkyComputerMan Wow, that must be som seriously small text if ⍨ looks like a box.

Funky Computer Man

HyperNeutrino

that looks like a smudge to me lol

Funky Computer Man

I didn't really get a very good look at first. Once I saw one box I assumed there would be more.

Pavel

That looks like a speck of something on my screen

How do you TNB zoomed that far out

Funky Computer Man

Its only 50%. Firefox doesn't support a wide variety of levels of zoom and I can't stand be any more zoomed in

Pavel

03:04

._.

Adám

⍨

Pavel

You are a very odd wizard.

Funky Computer Man

If you guys don't want be reading your messages you can just use <sup></sup> :P

Pavel

@Adám ⎕A[⌊0.5+(+/⎕A⍳'APL')÷3] is way more understandable.

Adám

@Pavel I personally dislike parentheses.

ASCII-only

03:06

Help

I think I broke my mouse

Pavel

?

How do we help with that

Adám

@ASCII-only Call a vet!

Pavel

I do have to wonder why Iverson decided Right-To-Left was better than Left-To-Right.

HyperNeutrino

having the order for operators and functions be different does seem to make sense from what little I know of APL

Adám

@Pavel Me too. Too bad we cannot ask. I think that it is because the fits better with how one reads descriptions in English and possibly because that is more natural when declaring things. Remember, APL was originally a new mathematical notation – not a programming language.

@Pavel Consider ⌊0.5+(+/d)÷3 which can be read "the floor of one half added to the sum of d divided by three".

Pavel

03:12

{⎕A[⌊0.5+(+/⎕A⍳⍵)÷⍴⍵]}

Adám

In "backwards APL", it would be d+/÷3+0.5⌊ which reads "d, summed, divided by three, added to a half, floored"

Pavel

Well, in regular notation, for operators with the same precedence it's still left-to-right.

Adám

hardly normal English.

@Pavel Except power and negative.

HyperNeutrino

maybe it's because I'm slightly used to reading postfix but that makes perfect sense as normal English to me lol

Pavel

Wait, is a^b^c a^(b^c)

Adám

03:15

@Pavel Yes.

Pavel

Now I remember why I always have parens when writing exponents

Adám

@HyperNeutrino As description of a procedure to be done, but APL was never meant to be procedural.

Pavel

What paradigm would one assign to APL?

Adám

@Pavel Originally it was just an ironed out mathematics, so I guess declarative functional.

Pavel

ಠ_ಠ Wikipedia lists J as an implementation of APL.

Oh, nevermind, as a dialect of APL.

I got the sections confused

Adám

03:21

Today, (Dyalog) APL is truly multi-paradigm: Tacit and explicit, functional and imperative, declarative and OO, interpreted and compiled.

Pavel

I can't figure out wether or not R and S are the same language.

Adám

@Pavel QuadR and QuadS?

Pavel

@Adám No, the statistical analysis language(s).

The wikipedia page for S lists R as an implementation, but the page for R lists S as an inspiration for, but seperate language from, R.

Nobody

Hmm

What are we talking about here

ASCII-only

@Adám Interpreted/Compiled aren't paradigms :P

@Adám Also what about reflection :P

Adám

03:25

@ASCII-only True, more like features. Should I add structured and unstructured? Array oriented and scalar?

Pavel

Dyalog is a .NET language, so I suppose it supports .NET reflection capabilities.

Adám

@ASCII-only APL can certainly modify its own code and the meaning of existing code at runtime. I wouldn't recommend it though.

Pavel

@Adám How would you generate a random number in a certain range in APL?

Like randint(1, 10)

Adám

@ASCII-only Self-modifying APL!

Pavel

Wuuttt.....

Adám

03:31

@Pavel randint←+∘? (Assumes ⎕IO←0. Lower bound is left arg, upper bound is right arg.)

@Pavel commented version

Pavel

Ah.

Why does putting First in the input field work, and why not just write ⎕←First?

Adám

@Pavel You could do that too. The reason is that TIO's Code defines the "APL workspace" while TIO's Input defines the "APL session". It is as if the user started APL with the selected (i.e. typed) workspace, and then typed into the session to get things started. If you add ⎕←First to the "Code" it is as if the workspace contained its own boot-strapping mechanism. An APL workspace have that; just assign an initialising command to ⎕LX (Latent Expression)

Pavel

So basically the Input field acts as the REPL.

Is there anything you can do in it that you can't do in the code field?

Adám

@Pavel Yes, in the session you can use system commands, e.g. )load and user commands, e.g. ]load

Pavel

Ok. It just seems weird, no other language on TIO behaves like that

Adám

03:40

@Pavel Also, the Input has implicit output while Code doesn't.

@Pavel J :-)

Pavel

Doesn't count.

(Also K, probably)

Adám

Actually, a colleague and I are in the process of pushing behaviour into Dyalog APL which will put it more in line with what "the world" knows these days.

Pavel

So writing scripts in APL will finally make sense? Sounds lovely.

Adám

(That is when I can get him away from speeding up APL. He's obsessed with that ;-) and won't stop until interpreted APL is several times faster than compiled optimised C.)

Nobody

Can anyone tell me why this throws an error

var f=(x)=>((1/6*(2x+1))+1/2)*(x*(x+1))/2;
console.log(f(5));

"Uncaught SyntaxError: Invalid or unexpected token"

Adám

03:50

@Nobody 2x?

Nobody

Oh ok ;)

Pavel

JS error reporting is shite.

Seriously anything else would have given the exact location where the error was caused

Nobody

true

ASCII-only

@Pavel ... JS does too

Nobody

instead it shows a line

wth js

Pavel

03:53

@ASCII-only No

The only output is "Uncaught SyntaxError: Invalid or unexpected token"

ASCII-only

@Pavel ... and the exact location on the right...

Adám

@Pavel Even APL has done that since the beginning (although I must admit that Dyalog APL isn't always brilliant about that.

Pavel

Please show me where the location of the error is listed

ASCII-only

@Pavel ... the right...

Adám

Can anyone figure out why the following does not error in APL? x←5 ⋄ ((1÷6×(2x+1))+1/2)×(x×(x+1))÷2

Downgoat

03:55

> 2x

Pavel

@ASCII-only 2x isn't the 100th or the 1st character.

And it's defeinitely not at the VMth character

ASCII-only

@Pavel ... it's a link

Downgoat

@Pavel this is why we should all use safari. REPL error position are correct

ASCII-only

To the exact location

Pavel

Ooooh

I see

Nobody

04:12

btw I was solving GAU numbers

I think the examples are wrong

or I am

ASCII-only

@Nobody This

Nobody

err

this what

ASCII-only

Do you think it's more likely all the current answers are wrong, or you are? :P

DJMcMayhem

06:20

→ 1 Spam moved to Trash

Pavel

I think that may just be the first time I've seen NMP moved to trash.

HyperNeutrino

I'm wondering why that spam question got tagged halting-problem...

DJMcMayhem

Cause it has to have a tag?

HyperNeutrino

But why that of all things

I'm assuming it was a random choice by spammer pressing random key but still :P

Well gtg now o/

Erik the Outgolfer

07:40

@Pavel it isn't though iirc mego moved another nmp spam to trash too

Pavel

> I've seen

Erik the Outgolfer

just sayin' just in case

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer I have no idea if I have done that but I'll go ahead and agree with you :P

Erik the Outgolfer

Mar 10 at 9:59, by Mego

→ 1 message moved to Trash

now you can be sure too :p

Anonymous

Yep, I just found it in Trash

Erik the Outgolfer

07:43

btw I found it because I remember how you said "goodbye spam"

Anonymous

That sounds like something I'd say

Lembik

09:17

hi @LeakyNun

Leaky Nun

hi

Lembik

I decided to have a go at web scraping myself but then realised I know nothing

:)

I was wondering if you could help me reproduce what you did (I am in python using beautifulsoup but the principle should be the same)

what did you look for in the page to extract the title and rating?

ASCII-only

@Lembik 1. go to the page 2. right click 3. inspect element 4. eyedropper 5. click title

Lembik

@ASCII-only I am not sure I follow. Why go to page 2?

ASCII-only

@Lembik :| 2 is meant to mean step 2

Lembik

09:24

oh I see

ok let me see

I don't know how to get this eyedropper

ASCII-only

nvm it's a rectangle with a cursor on it

what browser do you use

Lembik

I can use either firefox or chromium whichever is easier

but in firefox right now

ASCII-only

It's on the top left in Chromium

I think there's an equivalent in Firefox but I'm not used to it so I'm not sure

Lembik

ok so I did that in chromium

but I still don't see how to extract the rating

ASCII-only

Usually the rating and title will have an id (just use that in beautifulsoup to select)

Sometimes they will always be e.g. the nth child of an element with an id, or be the only element with a certain class

Lembik

09:32

I see things like bpaste.net/show/10a01918f06b

ASCII-only

Hmm what does $('.js-headline-text') give in JS console

Lembik

$('.js-headline-text')
<span class="js-headline-text">

ASCII-only

If there's only one thing the that's great :P just use BeautifulSoup to (somehow) select the elements with class js-headline-text and get the first element ([0]) of that

Lembik

I am so failing :)

print soup.find_all("div", class_ = "js-headline-text"))

just prints out a lot of the web page

ASCII-only

10:00

O_o weird

undergroundmonorail

10:30

look at this cool guy codegolf.stackexchange.com/revisions/143548/16

Leaky Nun

CMC: Given non-zero integers a,b,d with d divisible by gcd(a,b), find integers x,y such that ax+by=d (Bezout's lemma)

trichoplax

11:27

"There is no existing code that does this" Does this mean you generated the example image by hand?? — trichoplax 31 secs ago

I really can't follow what's going on with this question

ASCII-only

@trichoplax >_> I would have done it by hand tbh

Sherlock9

12:20

@trichoplax Why does this guy hate his own challenge so much?

dzaima

@Sherlock9 probably because he didn't intend it to be a challenge

Sherlock9

Sigh, alright

Leaky Nun

@Sherlock9 nice to see you

Sherlock9

Hey Leaky

I've been hopping in and out

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Q: Six Flags over HTTP

Let's say you need to transmit six boolean flags in a URL string. Obviously you could do it with six ones or zeroes, but you want better compression. With a little math you can pack them into two characters using 0-7 octal. But how about mapping all six to a single ASCII character? Here we have...

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Q: Make a 2d menger sponge

A menger sponge is a fractal made out of cubes within cubes within cubes... If you start with a cube, on each face there are 9 squares. The middle square becomes empty (or 0). The other 8 squares iterate this process. They each get split up into 9 squares and the middle square face is taken out....

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ArtEze

Try write with your keyboard: QAZSEDCFTGBHUJMKOLP

ASCII-only

@NewMainPosts Also known as a Sierspinski... ninja'd already

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Six Flags over HTTP Let's say you need to transmit six boolean flags in a URL string. Obviously you could do it with six ones or zeroes, but you want better compression. With a little math you can pack them into two characters using 0-7 octal. How about mapping all six to a single ASCII charact...

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Predict a Game of Life Just a rough draft for the moment, will expand later Given a matrix of ones and zeros m, and a positive integer n, return m modified as if it was a board for Conway's Game Of Life after n generations. For example, if the matrix was 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0...

Erik the Outgolfer

14:56

@Scrooble did you just request access to the jelly hypertraining room?

the room is intended to help in learning the Jelly golfing language

ASCII-only

I read something on Arcade lounge chat

reddit.com/r/funny/comments/71szbu/…

Scrooble

@EriktheOutgolfer Yeah... Jelly is certainly a language I want to learn.

Leaky Nun

@Scrooble hmm

Erik the Outgolfer

have you read the tutorial? it may help

Scrooble

Yeah, I have

Erik the Outgolfer

15:01

hmm...

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ Too many people are learning Jelly. It's no longer for the elites :P </joke>

Erik the Outgolfer

it's for helping them be the elites ;p

(although we can't just inject the knowledge :p)

caird coinheringaahing

Is it possible to change the direction of a glider gun in GoL?

Scrooble

Build the gun pointing the other way :P

Reflector (cellular automaton)

In cellular automata such as Conway's Game of Life, a reflector is a pattern that can interact with a spaceship to change its direction of motion, without damage to the reflector pattern. In Life, many oscillators can reflect the glider; there also exist stable reflectors composed of still life patterns that, when they interact with a glider, reflect the glider and return to their stable state. == External links == New stable 180-degree glider reflector, Game of Life News, May 30, 2009 New stable 90-degree glider reflector, Game of Life News, May 29, 2013...

Erik the Outgolfer

@Scrooble putting you in

Scrooble

15:05

@EriktheOutgolfer Sweet. Thanks.

caird coinheringaahing

@Scrooble That doesn't have a seed for the reflector though :(

ASCII-only

@cairdcoinheringaahing Why do you want to know this

Yes flip it

caird coinheringaahing

@ASCII-only Because I'm messing around with a GoL simulator

ASCII-only

@cairdcoinheringaahing ... there's something called LifeWiki

@cairdcoinheringaahing e.g. conwaylife.com/ref/lexicon/lex_r.htm#reflector

TuxCopter

The author of this challenge is annoying :/

Is there a way to edit-protect questions on SE?

caird coinheringaahing

15:17

@TuxCopter Yeah, flag for a moderator to lock the question

dzaima

@cairdcoinheringaahing the question is good, just the author isn't

caird coinheringaahing

@dzaima If the author is vandalising the question, the moderators should revert the vandalism, lock the question to prevent more vandalism and talk to the author. Then they can unlock it. Also, I think there is a lock that only prevents editing, not answering

dzaima

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh huh, didn't know that there was an edit lock

Erik the Outgolfer

@TuxCopter flagged

dzaima

I wonder if he even attempted to contact SE to anonymize the question or if he's just continuously hoping that vandalising will fix all problems

caird coinheringaahing

15:20

@dzaima Yeah, locks are designed to be different to things like closing, so it would make sense if there is a edit lock]

Erik the Outgolfer

well, the "edit lock" will also prevent answers

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, according to this that question should definitely be locked (temporarily)

Erik the Outgolfer

eugh another strike I had to roll back

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Lembik

15:41

anyone got any ideas how I can look up mpaa or bbfc movie ratings (in code of course)?

ASCII-only

@Lembik pls bpaste ty

Lembik

@ASCII-only what is ty?

caird coinheringaahing

@Lembik Thank you

Lembik

oh.. then please paste what? :)

given a movie name, I want to return its rating

Taylor Scott

So what's up with the revisions on the Generate Special Period Image Challange

like the original poster has just been editing it and stating that they hate the challange

ASCII-only

15:44

@Lembik soup.find_all("div", class_ = "js-headline-text") should work

caird coinheringaahing

@TaylorScott Check the conversation above the NMP onebox

ASCII-only

@TaylorScott Yep

caird coinheringaahing

Damn it, had to roll it back again.

Taylor Scott

ah - yeah

ASCII-only

And we can't stop him from nuking it

Lembik

15:46

@ASCII-only sorry I mean these things en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… . It's not on the same web page

caird coinheringaahing

@ASCII-only Yeah, only the mods can :( Here comes edit policing

Taylor Scott

:( I enjoyed answering that question, I hope that they don't nuke it

Lembik

at least I don't think it is

ASCII-only

@Lembik Look up?

Lembik

@ASCII-only do you mean soup.find_all("div", class_ = "js-headline-text") ? Which web page is that for?

ASCII-only

15:47

@Lembik The other one >_>

Lembik

sorry can you paste it again? I don't seem to see it

ASCII-only

@Lembik What exactly do you mean by look up? What is your expected input/output

caird coinheringaahing

If underhanded questions were still allowed, this would be the go-to help page :D

ASCII-only

@Lembik The one you asked about before >_> <_< I never found out what website that was

Lembik

@ASCII-only the input is a movie names. E.g. "Star Wars"

the output should be the MPAA rating for it

or the BBFC rating.. I don't mind which

ASCII-only

15:49

@Lembik Exact movie name?

Lembik

@ASCII-only Let's say in the first instance

caird coinheringaahing

@Lembik You should make that into a challenge. A bit more specification, and that could be fun

Lembik

@cairdcoinheringaahing I would be happy to but I fear someone will say "It's just web scraping"

caird coinheringaahing

@Lembik I may be dump, but what does "web scraping" mean?

ಠ_ಠ The spelling errors really didn't help :P

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On the webpage "www.filmratings.com/Search?filmTitle=%s" % title.replace(" ", "+")it's the inner text of the first element with the class _filmRating

Assuming you don't mind using filmratings.com's relevance order

caird coinheringaahing

16:00

I hate Python 2

Erik the Outgolfer

because True is a valid variable name

ASCII-only

@cairdcoinheringaahing Even better

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer Just because it works, doesn't mean it should

Erik the Outgolfer

well in python 3 it doesn't

caird coinheringaahing

You'd think that this wouldn't let you assign to None, but instead, it doesn't know what False is D:

Erik the Outgolfer

16:04

python 1?

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer Of course.

Erik the Outgolfer

it uses 0 and 1

caird coinheringaahing

Perl is weird

And XML is even weirder. <_><:>:_>:/:_<:</:></_> is valid code

TuxCopter

@cairdcoinheringaahing Why? That seems useful

caird coinheringaahing

@TuxCopter You could just use die "Not yet implemented"

TuxCopter

16:07

... is shorter tho and v

ASCII-only

@cairdcoinheringaahing Do you really want to type that every time

also no risk of spelling errors

Erik the Outgolfer

he can make a function to do it?

ASCII-only

Sure, but would you prefer { ... } or { die_not_yet_implemented() }

caird coinheringaahing

@ASCII-only how about { f() }?

ASCII-only

or even TODO()

Lembik

16:10

@ASCII-only oh that's an interesting website!

ASCII-only

@cairdcoinheringaahing well that isn't very descriptive/intuitive is it

caird coinheringaahing

@ASCII-only Neither is ...

Lembik

@ASCII-only They might get annoyed if I do 9000 lookups

ASCII-only

@Lembik Yes they might >_>

Lembik

@ASCII-only but thank you. In theory imdb.com has all this data

@ASCII-only I wonder if there is a similar way to look up BBFC ratings

caird coinheringaahing

16:12

@Doorknob could you lock this question for the moment, as there appears to be an edit war happening

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@Lembik Actually I'd contact them about doing lookups, because I think that website is run by the MPAA

Doorknob

@cairdcoinheringaahing For future reference... repeatedly rolling back the post does not help the situation. Just flag it and move on.

Lembik

@ASCII-only Why contact them first?

in case they have a simpler way?

or to ask for permission?

ASCII-only

@Lembik Yeah, this

caird coinheringaahing

@Doorknob I think its been flagged, but it doesn't appear as though anything has happened

Lembik

16:15

which one was "this"?

ASCII-only

@Lembik TBH I don't really think they'll mind

Lembik

oh I see.. a simpler way

got you

Shaggy

@cairdcoinheringaahing He's been suspended.

Lembik

they might even provide a list!

Erik the Outgolfer

@Doorknob but we were just rolling back so as to keep the challenge visible

ASCII-only

16:19

@EriktheOutgolfer I'd agree with Doorknob

The challenge doesn't need to be up all the time

@Lembik on "http://www.bbfc.co.uk/search/releases/%s" % title.replace(" ", "%2B"), the image the first child of the first element with class symbol, once you have the src attribute of that you can do string.split('_')[1] (or any method to extract the text between the underscores)

Looks like you can't filter for just films though

Lembik

@ASCII-only interesting!

I am doing this all in beautifulsoup

and I still wonder if it could make a PPCG challenge

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DJMcMayhem

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Erik the Outgolfer

@DJMcMayhem jelly, 3 bytes (0-indexed): ^1‘

also already done

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem Jelly, 4 bytes (all ASCII, 1-indexed): ^1+2

(100% original :P)

Erik the Outgolfer

I meant this

caird coinheringaahing

Never mind, mine doesn't work

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