The Nineteenth Byte

TuxCopter

16:04

Hi

betseg

hi

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing BTW it's number + sequence :)

LOL

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder Is that the chat message thing?

Mr. Xcoder

Yes, and PPCG is in the middle of the icon :-/

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder status-norepro. It's under the close thing for me

Mr. Xcoder

16:09

Still there for me :-/

TuxCopter

norepro for me too

Mr. Xcoder

Let me finish writing the task now

betseg

its like that for me too

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder Can you wait for a couple of days to post, so that Deorst v2 can compete? :P

betseg

its like that for wheat wizard too

Mr. Xcoder

16:10

@cairdcoinheringaahing Non-competing is not a thing

It applies to WheatWizard as well.

And to Erik

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder It is when the language isn't complete

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Sorry, I'll post it today. You can compete in the future, after you finish it. I think it's quite fun

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder Meh, I've got Python and Jelly TIO pages open, waiting for it to be posted

Mr. Xcoder

Yeah, Python is not the best tool for the job, and it's moderately hard as well in Jelly.

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16:30

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

The Compressor code-challenge test-battery You are given this list of 100 positive integers that are at between 7 and 18 digits long: [list to come] You need to generate 100 snippets that will produce these numbers in some language (either as a numeric or string). Your score is the total leng...

Pavel

Does anyone know how to square a number in APL? Other than *2 of course.

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Do you want me to ping you when I post it?

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder You can, but I may not post as I'm working on Deorst atm

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing I will post it in a few mins.

Erik the Outgolfer

16:47

@Mr.Xcoder stands on alert for new question

Mr. Xcoder

@caird Done.

Erik the Outgolfer

ah forgot caret reply doesn't work in chrome 61

Mr. Xcoder

@Erik Done.

Erik the Outgolfer

saw a parenthesis on the tab's title that's how I realized

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder I have to ask, are you sure you want to go Fib after Fibtraction?

Mr. Xcoder

16:48

Whoops forgot to change title >.>

@cairdcoinheringaahing yes, sure

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder In that case, brb, VTCing as dupe :P /s

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Make sure to read it though

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Q: Implement Fibonacci... Shifted to the right

Background We all know the famous Fibonacci sequence, where each term is the sum of the previous two, with the first term being 0 and the second one being 1. The first few elements are: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, 1597, 2584, 4181, 6765 What we are going ...

Mr. Xcoder

That was fast

If you feel like there is place for improvements, tell me and I might move it to the sandbox

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder Where is the OEIS link? Without that, how will I use the really easy formula provided?

Why'd you delete it?

Mr. Xcoder

16:51

@cairdcoinheringaahing No OEIS for it

@cairdcoinheringaahing Because of random downvotes

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder what happened?

Mr. Xcoder

Sorry

I will move to the sandbox

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder One downvote shouldn't be a good reason to delete it. I was about to +1

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer Ugh, I now realize you have answered it >.>

Erik the Outgolfer

well I realized my answer would sometimes print leading 0s

and now I can't delete it :(

Mr. Xcoder

16:52

@cairdcoinheringaahing Let me move it to the sandbox. I will ask you for feedback and I'll move it back to main in a few minutes

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder I can give you feedback right now: remove the second bullet point. Answers can't be compared if they do different things. Otherwise, its fine

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer Do you think I should allow leading zeros?

Erik the Outgolfer

no

it was just my answer that was printing them in error

Mr. Xcoder

Why?

I mean, why not?

Erik the Outgolfer

you can allow them if you want

DJMcMayhem

16:54

CMC: Given a number, shift every digit to the right

Erik the Outgolfer

btw I fixed my answer

DJMcMayhem

For example, "1247" --> "2358"

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMcMayhem Add a test with 9

DJMcMayhem

"98720" --> "09831"

Sherlock9

Ah, that is different from rotation

Wheat Wizard

16:55

@Mr.Xcoder Don't bother moving it to the sandbox. Its not a problem that the sandbox can fix.

caird coinheringaahing

Never mind, misread the question

DJMcMayhem

V, 8 bytes: Try it online!

Mr. Xcoder

@WheatWizard I will remove the second bullet point and make it find the Nth term. Do you think there is room for immediate improvements?

Erik the Outgolfer

@cairdcoinheringaahing he needs leading 0s

(also you stole that from my answer didn't you? :p)

jelly, 5 bytes (full program): D‘%⁵V

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer Yes and ಠ_ಠ damn it

Wheat Wizard

16:56

@Mr.Xcoder I just think the question is boring. I would personally just go back to the drawing board. But that's my opinion, plenty of questions I think are boring get tons of upvots

Mr. Xcoder

Ok

@DJMcMayhem Can we take and return as lists?

DJMcMayhem

Ehh, sure

Erik the Outgolfer

jelly, 3 bytes: ‘%⁵

thanks to list i/o allowance :p

Sherlock9

Python 3, 46 bytes "".join(str(int(i)%10+1)for i in str(input()))

Working on a Python 2 version

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMc Pyth, 5 bytes: .rQUT

Erik the Outgolfer

16:59

pyth, 3 bytes: meh

16

caird coinheringaahing

@Sherlock9 You can remove str() around the input()

Mr. Xcoder

huh

Sherlock9

@cairdcoinheringaahing It also needs fixing, hang on

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer Welp... Come on... Last digit

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder I didn't ask for stars, it just happened to be so

DJMcMayhem

17:00

@EriktheOutgolfer Beatiful

Sherlock9

Python, 41 bytes: "".join(str(-~int(i)%10)for i in input())

Mr. Xcoder

Just in case, I will repost the challenge shortly.

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ The hyperlink for my Deorst parser on TIO is too long to fit into a chat message

Erik the Outgolfer

@DJMcMayhem it was an accident :p

Mr. Xcoder

@Sherlock9 lambda k:[-~int(i)%10for i in k]

Erik the Outgolfer

17:01

it's actually mehdQ but the last two chars are implicit

Sherlock9

@Mr.Xcoder Ah right, you are allowed to output as a list. Well done

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer meh, the first one is better (pun intended)

Sherlock9

I've been meaning to ask, caird. Where does your name come from?

Erik the Outgolfer

@cairdcoinheringaahing I don't need a pun to choose the golfiest I can get to!

caird coinheringaahing

@Sherlock9 Hold on, checking the transcript for all of the times this has been asked

Sherlock9

17:03

Sorry, was afraid to touch the search function. It's buggy in there.

caird coinheringaahing

@Sherlock9 From this

Erik the Outgolfer

also on an unrelated note chrome 61 colors are sickening

Mr. Xcoder

zeros or zeroes???

DJMcMayhem

Brain-flak, 116 bytes: {({}()<>)<>}<>{(({}))(((((()()()){}()){}){}()){})([{}]{})((){[()](<{}>)}{}){(<‌{}({}[(()()()()()){}])>)}{}({}<>)<>}<>

Sherlock9

@cairdcoinheringaahing Interesting. And very weird

One day, I may go back and try to understand Brain-Flak like I figured out Parenthetic

DJMcMayhem

17:05

Readable version

Sherlock9

Probably not tonight though

@DJMcMayhem Never mind then. Bless you, sir

caird coinheringaahing

@Sherlock9 I couldn't decide on a name, and thought it would be fun to make people to type it. I have been thwarted by autocorrect.

Erik the Outgolfer

> Readable

DJMcMayhem

@Sherlock9 s/readable/semi-readable

Sherlock9

Ah, no comments

sigh

DJMcMayhem

17:06

Yeah, just indentation

I can add comments if you like

Sherlock9

If you would, I would appreciate it

Meanwhile I'll dig up the Brain-Flak docs to look at

DJMcMayhem

@Sherlock9 Like I told carusco (however you say their name) last night, it's not too daunting if you start small. And it's much easier to write than it is to read

Sherlock9

Parenthetic is almost the same way until your variable names get too big

DJMcMayhem

@Sherlock9 Actual readable version: Try it online! </s>

Erik the Outgolfer

hey new main challenge it's not mr xcoder's!

caird coinheringaahing

17:08

@DJMcMayhem I think its pronounced "Magic Octopus Urn"

DJMcMayhem

Oh yeah, they changed it

wizzwizz4

Do we have a definition of bytecode?

Sherlock9

@DJMcMayhem >_< I am amazed at your commenting skills

Mr. Xcoder

Reposted

And I will be back in a couple of minutes to address any concerns :P

Sherlock9

@wizzwizz4 Bytecode in which cases? For just scoring or for other stuff?

caird coinheringaahing

17:09

ಠ_ಠ Search says I've only posted 15 questions and 17 posts in the sandbox

Sherlock9

I'm not familiar with what meta has or hasn't decided on bytecode

wizzwizz4

@Sherlock9 For a representation of a program.

@El'endiaStarman We're having on-topic, non-spammy discussion now. Please come back!

Python is an example of a language with bytecode.

DJMcMayhem

@Sherlock9 Here's an actual readable version, with waaay more time spent on comments than I usually do. I also added some links so that you didn't think I wrote everything manually:

Shoot

URL is too long lol

Just a second

Mistah Figgins

hey starman!

El'endia Starman

@wizzwizz4 On-topic and non-spammy discussion is a necessary but not sufficient condition for me to be interested in chatting.

DJMcMayhem

17:14

Sorry for sketchy bitly link: bit.ly/2wN6sk4

Sherlock9

@El'endiaStarman EL! Dude, how have you been?

I haven't seen you in ages!

El'endia Starman

Hey! I've been doing well. Life's going well for me thus far. :D

Sherlock9

I'm really glad to hear it :D

DJMcMayhem

@Sherlock9 If you're interested in learning more, you're always free to hit me or wheatwizard up in the third stack

Sherlock9

Sorry to hear that you don't frequent TNB much anymore. What have you been up to in the meantime?

El'endia Starman

17:16

@DJMcMayhem Ha, clever name.

DJMcMayhem

Haha, thanks. The reasoning behind it is pretty cool actually

Sherlock9

@DJMcMayhem Noted. And many thanks for taking the time to comment :D

DJMcMayhem

Always glad to help! :)

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A: Tips for Golfing in Brain-Flak

Use the Third Stack If you have read the title you might be a bit confused. Surely there are only two stacks in Brain-Flak? However I assure you that it exists and it is one of the most powerful if not the most powerful tool in writing and golfing Brain-Flak. What is the "Third Stack"? Eve...

Erik the Outgolfer

@DJMcMayhem yeah it's a really cool golfing tip :p

El'endia Starman

@Sherlock9 Aside from work, I've worked on a couple personal projects. The big one is my update of TNBDE, which I announced in here yesterday.

Erik the Outgolfer

17:17

ninja'd

DJMcMayhem

It's also just a really fun name

And it feels kinda similar to The Nineteenth Byte

El'endia Starman

@DJMcMayhem Oh, I thought the chatroom name was a joke based off of there being only two stacks in the language itself, so the third stack was the chat.

DJMcMayhem

It's that too

But it's also a fun reference to a more advanced understanding of how brain-flak works

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Q: Measuring a pile of logs

Introduction This is a log of length 5: ##### I want to pile a bunch of these logs on top of each other. How I do this is that I slide a new log onto the topmost one from the right, and stop sliding when their left or right ends align (don't ask why). If the new log is longer, it slides all t...

code-golf array-manipulation

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Q: Implement the Fibonacci sequence... Shifted to the right

Background We all know the famous Fibonacci sequence, where each term is the sum of the previous two, with the first term being 0 and the second one being 1. The first few elements are: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, 1597, 2584, 4181, 6765 What we are going ...

code-golf number sequence fibonacci

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Q: dog and cat puzzle

Angus,Basil,Craig and duane have pets. 1.Angus says : "If Duane and I each have a dog,then exactly one of basil and Craig has a dog" 2.Basil says: "If Craig and I each have a cat,then exactly one of Angus and Duane has a dog" 3.Craig says: "If Angus and I each have a dog,then exactly one of Basi...

programming-puzzle

TuxCopter

Wait you can use Brain-Flak's parsing stack for computation?

DJMcMayhem

17:20

Back when @WheatWizard Was making cults on my behalf, he named me The Third Stack

One of the highest honors I've been given

@TuxCopter Yep! How much brain-flak do you know?

TuxCopter

nothing except () evaluates to 1

iirc

DJMcMayhem

OK

I'll make a simple example

Sherlock9

@El'endiaStarman Sorry late reply. IRL stuff for a moment. I saw the update. Nice :D

I always assumed that the data stuff from SE was SE's creation though

TNBDE was your own making?

DJMcMayhem

So {} pops a value off the current stack, and {...} repeatedly runs the code ... until the top value is 0. But it also evaluates to the sum of everytime the code was executed.

El'endia Starman

@Sherlock9 Maybe you're thinking of the SEDE? Stack Exchange Data Explorer? I deliberately named TNBDE to echo that.

DJMcMayhem

17:23

So if there were three non-zero values on the stack, then {{}} would be equivalent to {}{}{}, which evaluates to the sum of each element

So this: Try it online! will sum every element of input by incrementing the current value by {} everytime it's run

Sherlock9

Oh I see

Mr. Xcoder

Ooh, Brain-flak class going on

DJMcMayhem

Or Try it online! would sum every (element of input + 1) by incrementing the current value by {}() each time it's run. So the () has no direct effect except for changing the end evaluated value

Erik the Outgolfer

brain-flak is simple to understand, yet hard to make anything useful out of it

DJMcMayhem

In essence, the () is incrementing "The Third Stack"

El'endia Starman

17:25

@Sherlock9 Yeah. Definitely contributed to me getting my job. :D

DJMcMayhem

@TuxCopter Does that make sense?

Sherlock9

Ooh, what do you do now?

TuxCopter

ooh

Sherlock9

For a living, I mean

Damn it brain autocorrect

DJMcMayhem

That leads to some super awesome polygonal number calculations, for example, ({({})({}[()])}{})

(Mega cookies to anyone who can explain that one to me)

Sherlock9

17:27

@DJMcMayhem ooh

El'endia Starman

I work for WB New York. Our main product is Hydra Studio, which you can google, and basically, we do a lot of backend support and development in concert with other game studios in Warner Bros. Games, such as NetherRealm Studios for Injustice 2 and Monolith for the upcoming Shadow of War.

Mistah Figgins

cool

Sherlock9

... You're helping to make Shadow of War?

Erik the Outgolfer

@DJMcMayhem you mean ({({})({}[()])}{})

you edited it in apparently

Sherlock9

I don't believe the emoticon exists for how cool I think that is O_O

El'endia Starman

17:28

@Sherlock9 Yep.

Erik the Outgolfer

@Sherlock9 I think I've seen ven using the emoticon Ω_Ω

DJMcMayhem

@EriktheOutgolfer Yeah

El'endia Starman

I also helped with Injustice 2. That was the first game (well, pair of games) we helped launch after I started working last December.

TuxCopter

@Sherlock9 😮_😮

Sherlock9

Flipping cool :D

Erik the Outgolfer

17:33

ono dennis gonna outgolf me help

oh he actually commented on mine

Sherlock9

(
 {
  ({}) (pop sum)
  (
   {} pop
   [()] neg 1
  ) sub 1
 } run while TOS nonzero
 {} sum
) print

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer I am very surprised Dennis didn't just outgolf you

(yet)

Erik the Outgolfer

well maybe his turned out too similar to mine

but sometimes he does things a bit slower

Mr. Xcoder

Wait... Jelly with STDIN?

Sherlock9

@DJMcMayhem So I think what's happening here is that we're popping n every time and subtracting 1 from another n as a counter until the counter hits zero, then we some all the ns add pop

But I could be wrong

Erik the Outgolfer

17:39

@Mr.Xcoder yeah

it's a trick for the ¡

it automatically gets its second argument from stdin if there aren't any command-line args

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder Only Dennis and miles ever actually use it

Mr. Xcoder

>_>

Erik the Outgolfer

and then default niladic chain has implicit 0s

Mr. Xcoder

a new user has posted an incredible answer... And he is extremely similar to an old user...

Poke

@DJMcMayhem squares a number

Sherlock9

17:40

@DJMcMayhem No wait, I get it. ({}) pops n, then ({}[()]) pops n-1. You keep popping until you reach 1 and 0. The sum of 1..n and 0..(n-1) is n(n+1) plus n(n-1) which is n**2

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder I think I have seen them before?

DJMcMayhem

@Sherlock9 That's mostly accurate, but ({}) is actually going to be push(pop)) which is basically just peek(). And the last {} simply pops off an extra 0, and the surrounding (...) is push rather than print (the printing is implicit)

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer They are very similar to “Vote to Close”

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder VoteToReopen?

DJMcMayhem

@Sherlock9 Yes exactly!

Mr. Xcoder

17:41

Yes

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, they used to have an account here. I think it got deleted as a sock though

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder no the VoteToReopen name alongside 1 rep and 1 bronze badge got me déjà vu

and it says

> Member for 3 months

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder for lolz, this is the parser for Deorst :P

wizzwizz4

@El'endiaStarman What would it take?

Sherlock9

@El'endiaStarman Sorry I got preoccupied with Brain-Flak for a bit there. I did have another question or two before you disappear for a bit again. What are you working on now (work-wise, personal-wise)?

DJMcMayhem

17:43

Weird. Vitsy is still around though

But they haven't been around for a month or so

Mr. Xcoder

I have just asked them

caird coinheringaahing

I know people don't like talking about them, but I'm just gonna say it, I think they might be a sock. Just my 2 cents.

Erik the Outgolfer

@cairdcoinheringaahing if they don't like to talk about them it's suspicious to me

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer As in people don't like it when other people are accused of being or having sock accounts

El'endia Starman

@Sherlock9 Work-wise, a new software component. It's been a great learning experience using Java, which I'm coming to really appreciate with a good IDE. Personal-wise, I hope to start a new project soon that I'm calling "IdeaGrapher" which is intended to be a tool for visualizing networks (graphs) of ideas.

Sherlock9

17:45

Ooh, like a mega mind map

Erik the Outgolfer

if they're accused in the bad sense abuse ensues usually

Sherlock9

Or at least, that's the first thing I think of

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing I don't think anyone would name their sock that way... It's too obvious... Maybe they have forgotten their old account password?

El'endia Starman

@Sherlock9 Yeah, basically.

Poke

@DJMcMayhem TryItOnline!

Sherlock9

17:46

@DJMcMayhem Belated :D

El'endia Starman

I'll probably post a link in here once it's in any semblance of a usable state.

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder brb, making a sock called coird coinheringaahing

DJMcMayhem

@Poke Kewl

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer Can you please add an explanation to your Jelly answer?

Erik the Outgolfer

sure

Mr. Xcoder

17:47

It's incredibly hard to read your code

Poke

@DJMcMayhem do i get cookies now

DJMcMayhem

@Poke 🍪 🍪 🍪

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder Its Jelly, you should be worried about your challenge if the Jelly is easy to read

Poke

that'll do

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing I'm no longer worried about it

DJMcMayhem

17:48

C++ lambdas can get confusing

I just found myself writing that ^

Mr. Xcoder

Wait, C++ and lambda in the same sentence

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem ಠ_ಠ Stupid compiled languages. Clearly interpreted languages are better

Sherlock9

@El'endiaStarman Good to know. Have a good day, dude. Hope to see you again soon :D

DJMcMayhem

@Mr.Xcoder Yes. Since C++... 14 I think?

Mr. Xcoder

>_> We use C++::11 in school

El'endia Starman

17:49

@Sherlock9 You too man.

DJMcMayhem

That's actually not too bad

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder We use Python :P

DJMcMayhem

Schools tend to lag way behind

caird coinheringaahing

(and brainfuck)

DJMcMayhem

I learned pseduo-C++11 without any of the the features that makes C++ decent

Mr. Xcoder

17:50

Now Conor tells me it's a dupe... I don't want to disagree

TuxCopter

Hm, did feersum ever release how he/she made the Seed hello world?

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder done

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMcMayhem Mind if I ask what makes C++ decent?

@EriktheOutgolfer Thanks

DJMcMayhem

@Mr.Xcoder I'm not sure I'd agree :P

But what they taught us was horrible. With the modern features I've learned since, it's a lot better

Sherlock9

Now that I've seen El come back (and I realize now that I didn't really realize he'd disappeared) I almost want to play a game of "Hey, what happened to that guy?"

DJMcMayhem

17:52

Stuff like actually using the classes that are built in instead of re-inventing every single wheel. Stuff like vectors/maps/lists/etc. and corresponding iterators. Auto. Boost

caird coinheringaahing

Jul 20 at 20:14, by trichoplax

To escape closure, a fibonacci challenge has to be as good as the previous 2 fibonacci challenges put together

DJMcMayhem

All of those would have been super useful

Sherlock9

Not sure I want to start that though. Might take ages to wade through all the people and it would probably end up really off-topic

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMcMayhem @EriktheOutgolfer hammered my own question.

Erik the Outgolfer

yeah saw that

although that's not what we call "hammering"

Mr. Xcoder

17:53

@EriktheOutgolfer I know.

caird coinheringaahing

@Sherlock9 Whenever someone comes back, I always think of this guy

Mr. Xcoder

Although I would like to disagree, I don't want to argue with 3 users with more rep than me. I prefer closing it.

El'endia Starman

@Sherlock9 You could probably use TNBDE for that stuff. :P

Sherlock9

That's a better idea that clogging chat. I'll go take a look

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder why did you hammer it then?

Mr. Xcoder

17:55

> I don't want to argue with 3 users with more rep than me. I prefer closing it.

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder At least they didn't hammer. Peter Taylor hammered my 5 dupe question without a single comment

Sherlock9

@El'endiaStarman What's the query syntax for "Last post from <user>". I feel like I'm going to be using that most

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder well, at least you could've waited for others to close it, doing it yourself would indicate agreement...

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer Mostly because you'd say my arguments are not strong enough to keep it open.

Sherlock9

Actually, "most recent post by every user who's ever typed in TNB" would be an interesting query on its own

Mr. Xcoder

17:56

After 3 users commented, I highly doubt my judgement.

And I slowly begin to agree...

Erik the Outgolfer

oh, and talking about posting challenges, I'd like a last inspection on this one before I post

Mr. Xcoder

I am about to get myself a dupe-hammer... Need 150 more votes

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder Wait for another Trump-related question to be posted, then learn Trumpscript (or something like that)

Mr. Xcoder

Oh, 150 is easy to get

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder ಠ_ಠ

DJMcMayhem

17:59

I usually need more posts rather than more votes

Which reminds me, I'm one quine away from bronze quine

Any recommendations?

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