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> Member for 11 months
yeah a year has 12 months :p
@EriktheOutgolfer I know.... I cannot even remember joining meta!
@Mr.Xcoder Done.
@Mr.Xcoder because you "joined" it just by visiting it
I am member for 11 months but I have started posting about 6 months ago :o
Wish I Googled Fibonacci sequence in Python earlier than I did (that's how I joined PPCG)
@EriktheOutgolfer What was your solution (13 bytes) to the JHT challenge?
10:31
@Mr.Xcoder I joined from HNQ
Okay
@Anyone know anything I can do with browser JS (or any other browser lang) (e.g. canvas) when I have bad internet?
@Mayube O_o all those globals, move them into a class and braingolf's source will be 100% better
yeah, not gunna happen though
using recursion to parse loops would save a ton of time too
@ASCII-only implement "Pixcoal"
@Mayube Just steal Charcoal's parser </shamelessselfpromotion>
@Cowsquack I thought that was supposed to be in Java Processing
Idk it's your language, so it's your choice what language you want it to be
@ASCII-only nah, I've moved on
10:36
@ASCII-only why?
@Cowsquack Not much interest I guess?
I was hoping to revive it soon...
Plus I'd much rather write a VSL OS than a JS one
@Cowsquack Oh okay
how would you recommend one to try it (the OS) out?
10:46
okay, what's the difference between creating the disk image and building the kernel?
Hello!
I'm beginning to like Crystal a lot :P because it has Ruby syntax and it's super fast
@Cowsquack creating a disk image is creating an iso file (or similar) that can be written to installation disks or mounted on external drives. Building the kernel is compiling the kernel's code
@Qwerp-Derp hi! btw I saw your dart regex thing, are you planning to port it to JS any time in the future?
@Cowsquack Maybe
But I don't want to write JS...
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I'm considering writing my regex in Crystal, but I need to make a tree structure first (for my parser)
@Mayube so by creating a disk image, I can actually run the OS
10:49
I would assume so
The only reason I wrote that regex in Dart was because Dart uses the shitty ECMA-guideline regex :(
@Cowsquack Yes
I'm thinking of writing a language with arrays as its main data structure
So a function that tests if the length of an array is even could be:
rate idea from 1-10: oeis builtins for charcoal
@ASCII-only but then I would need a VM, right?
10:52
@Cowsquack yep
well you could dual boot too
although that's not very useful
In computer science, array programming languages (also known as vector or multidimensional languages) generalize operations on scalars to apply transparently to vectors, matrices, and higher-dimensional arrays. Array programming primitives concisely express broad ideas about data manipulation. The level of concision can be dramatic in certain cases: it is not uncommon to find array programming language one-liners that require more than a couple of pages of Java code. Modern programming languages that support array programming are commonly used in scientific and engineering settings; these include...
@Qwerp-Derp it's called MATL :P
so a dual boot means that I can choose to boot my computer as its default OS or as avocadOS?
@ASCII-only :(
@Cowsquack That name is actually super good
@Cowsquack Yes although avocadOS doesn't do much atm :P
If you want I can try to continue working on it
@Qwerp-Derp Also Octave, R, Julia and NumPy
maybe even J/APL/K
10:55
What is this avocadOS
@Qwerp-Derp Abandoned OS meant to be jQuery based
Yikes that is abandoned
Still, it's a better idea than NodeOS :P
@Qwerp-Derp :| why
@ASCII-only What are you trying to say?
10:57
@Qwerp-Derp Why is NodeOS so bad
It's an OS
written in Node
@Cowsquack Do you think it's okay to build it off NodeOS
@Qwerp-Derp No it's a Linux OS
NodeJS is pretty bad already TBH
With Node as its primary shell
@Qwerp-Derp How
WDYM? It's honestly bad - the environment is bad, there's 50 libraries that all do the same thing, it's based off a not-good language (JavaScript)...
I tried linking two libraries together and I got a headache
11:00
@Qwerp-Derp Did you just say JS is bad
@Qwerp-Derp You what I don't even undersand
I don't like JS that much :p
Everything is my opinion BTW you guys probably have different opinions
@Qwerp-Derp Yeah that's the power of open source, 50 different libraries is 50 different APIs to choose from, and 50x higher chance for an optimized library
I tried linking a library for sending mail and a library for retrieving mail, with zero success
@Qwerp-Derp what happened
what do you even mean by link???
I basically tried to get stuff from my email, and tried to pipe it to a library that handles retrieving mail (to make a bot, basically)
But 0 success
11:02
@ASCII-only I think avocadOS would be a better learning experience if it is not built from an already existing OS
@Qwerp-Derp yeah how did it fail
btw what VM do you use/recommend?
@Cowsquack True. Should we use the Linux kernel though
I forgot, but it was just bugs amongst bugs
I don't have a good experience with JS, JS doesn't like me :(
@Cowsquack qemu, low overhead, low/no setup
@Qwerp-Derp >_> then don't use suspicious-looking libraries
11:04
is it very big (the installation)?
@Cowsquack qemu? idk
@ASCII-only Idk, what does the current kernel do?
@Cowsquack Almost nothing :P we barely got keyboard interrupts to work
@Cowsquack Installer is 44MB, I'm guessing it's ~100-200MB installed
@Qwerp-Derp well maybe because node wasn't exactly meant for mail management?
Eh still I don't like JS that much :(
11:10
@EriktheOutgolfer All done. Thanks. — Adám 54 secs ago
@Qwerp-Derp :| why js is good and does all things
wait no that's jQuery
LOL :P
I just don't like the language itself, you need like 10 libraries just to get up and running without spaghetti
There's no import system in JS
The DOM manipulation is super weird without JQuery
document.getElementById doesn't fit in
Chat's one-boxing is a bit strange. If I reply with just a link to a post, then it one-boxes. But if I use @ to address someone with just a link to a post, then it doesn't. The two messages will look identical though, save for the one-boxing part.
JS = one-file philosophy, because it's either put everything into one file or do multiple scripts, or use the plethora of libraries which just clutter your code
@Qwerp-Derp Uh no
@Qwerp-Derp then use coffeescript
@Qwerp-Derp uh no? you can require other files...
11:14
I do use CoffeeScript :P
I'm still complaining about JS
@ASCII-only Not in client-side, still doesn't work yet
@Qwerp-Derp well coffeescript is just syntactic sugar over js
@Qwerp-Derp ...clientside = browser?
sigh We're at a stalemate here
@ASCII-only yep
@Qwerp-Derp well isn't JS one of the very few languages you can use clientside
@Qwerp-Derp also closure compiler is a thing you know
@ASCII-only For client-side? It's pretty much the only language you can use
@Qwerp-Derp You can use Clojure/Python (maybe Ruby too) as well
11:17
Well yeah
But much less support
than just vanilla JS
@Qwerp-Derp And browser side is meant to be single-file, you know
sigh Fine I'll stop complaining about JS, happy?
@Qwerp-Derp IDK I just think you're hating JS for the wrong reasons >_>
Look I just don't like JS that much, compared to other languages out there
Compared to something like (IMO) Crystal, it loses on syntax (IMO Ruby > JS with syntax) and efficiency
@Qwerp-Derp also yeah you're not supposed to do intensive calculations in the browser
@Qwerp-Derp well of course, it was intended for script kiddies after all :P
11:22
@ASCII-only ???
Unless you're using wasm of course
@Qwerp-Derp JS is basically Java with as few errors as possible
I'm confuse, are you talking about JS, or Crystal?
Cause you didn't mention language
Anything that might be a typo works as it was actually intended a lot of the time
@Qwerp-Derp JS
@ASCII-only Java's too verbose :P JS > Java
Apparently I can write JS.
Still not sure on that one though.,
11:25
@Qwerp-Derp JS isn't verbose enough :p Java > JS
@dzaima You sure? document.getElementByClassList
document.getElementsByTagName("body")
@Qwerp-Derp $ in command line though
jQuery isn't real.
@ATaco no Chrome has a jQuery-esque commandline function
Well multiple actually
Also document.querySelector for jQuery
11:36
What would be a good keyword for Python's list comprehension that I could use for Ruby syntax ([1, 2, 3].*insert keyword here* { |x| x * 3 if x % 2 == 0 })
Hello?
11:52
Posting this soon:
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Step HenPredict a Collision: Will the robber get away? code-golf decision-problem Think of a road as a number line, starting at 0 and continuing indefinitely: ................................................................. There are two cars on the road: C and R. C is the cop who is trying to catc...

@ASCII-only You sure? I think it's just that every website you have tried it on has jQuery
@StepHen nope
It specifically says command line API
@Qwerp-Derp map
@ASCII-only :( That's already a keyword, and just map is not what I want
And filter
@Qwerp-Derp well yeah python list comprehensions are just nested/chained maps and filters
Well I want one keyword, not two
@Qwerp-Derp doesn't exist
IIRC most things just use mapFilter or something
12:06
What do you mean "doesn't exist"? I'm looking for word ideas
@ASCII-only oh cool, never knew that
@Qwerp-Derp a suitable word doesn't exist :P
12:29
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Q: Running second maximum of a list

jimmy23013Given a list of integers, your task is to output the second largest value in the first k elements, for each k between 2 and the length of the input list. In other words, output the second largest value for each prefix of the input. You can output an arbitrary value for the first element (where ...

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Q: Patch the Image

flawrIn a popular image editing software there is a feature, that patches (The term used in image processing is inpainting as @mınxomaτ pointed out.) a selected area of an image, based on the information outside of that patch. And it does a quite good job, considering it is just a program. As a human,...

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Q: The Equal Problem: Algorithm Design

SindicoI am trying to solve the Equal problem https://www.hackerrank.com/challenges/equal/problem here is my code import java.io.*; import java.util.*; import java.text.*; import java.math.*; import java.util.regex.*; public class Solution { static List<Integer> memo = new ArrayList<Integer>(); ...

@NewlyFeaturedQuestions what the heck is going on here?
@flawr Chaos! and Disorder!
lol I have no idea, you just opened yourself to an odd response ;)
greetings to all
greetings back to you :)
@ThomasWard I assume you came here for the initiation ritual to devote you life to the gods of code-golf?
@ThomasWard well it is just strange to see this as a newly featured question, when it actually is quite an old challenge.
@flawr i'm not new here :P
12:52
@Dennis I really think one could clean up those comments now, the ones that are actually relevant to the challenge got burried too deep, the only one that might be important is Mego's link to his meta question.
@ThomasWard I know but you never participated in code golf!
Which is heresy!
@flawr user23013 bountied (presumably) minxomat's answer for 500 rep
@flawr Depends on your beliefs :p
@ASCII-only Hm, time to fix the dead LaTeX, and images I guess.
@ThomasWard And mine is obviously the only correct one.
@flawr Dangerous argument to make.
Esp. when there'd DIAMONDS and ROs in play.
12:54
@ThomasWard Worship the code-golf gods or go to hell code review.
@mınxomaτ remind me what's against the chatiquette again? does ^ that qualify
or am I just not caffeinated enough :P
that's what I thought.
grabs Mjolnir
D:
walks back to Ask Ubuntu to swing the hammer at the flags queue
12:56
I don't see how people can actually like coffee.
@flawr caffeine addiction :P
@ASCII-only ah that is why it is raining rep again :D
buys rainrep tank
@ThomasWard what if you break the queue
@ThomasWard oh so you username has keming, it's actually Thor-nas Ward?
@ASCII-only haha=)
13:24
@ASCII-only sh qemu.sh gives tons of errors, I can't build it. But I can run the iso file directly using qemu
all the errors are from make
make: /Users/#######/opt/cross/bin/i686-elf-gcc: Command not found
14:04
@Lynn I want to apologize for my reaction yesterday. It wasn't even so much about about the actual language of the title, but what bothered me was having people repeatedly editing the title (which for me was a part of the work of creating this challenge) of my challenge without discussing it first. I experienced that as rude.

I obviously did not expect anyone to have strong opinions about such a title, as I got nothing but positive feedback from the sandbox. But judging from the response of Megos meta-poll there seem to be a lot of people who care about this.
is there anywhere on Meta that actually requires answers to have a header with the language?
:P
Well for Code-golf I think this is a defacto standard
I totally agree, but I can't find anywhere actually enforcing it
the closest post I've found is a meta post requiring that if you are using libraries then the header needs to be "Language + Library"
Well do you consider it as a problem?
nah, this is coming from curiosity
14:19
Well I did not find anything=/
But honestly the meta is quite a mess. It would be nice to have a wiki system (like wikipedia) for documenting and searching all the decisions and rules.
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Q: Let's customise the "How to Answer" pop-up

Martin EnderIt was recently suggested in a comment to point at our standard loopholes (and potentially other implicit community rules) next to the Answer text area (similar to the How to ask? sidebar when writing a question): Wouldn't there be a way to customize the "answer" box so that there is a warnin...

It's on the "How to answer" pop-up
@WheatWizard I think that this is finally working quine in lost with % and ! don't messing up. Now trying to make it shorter.
@WheatWizard Wrong link, can't edit =\ This one is good
Okx
Okx
14:36
@DeadPossum it outputs with a newline
What was the problem with the one Wheat-Wizard wrote??
https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/39357304#39357304
@officialaimm If IP starts at % going down or up, it will have wrong output
@Okx Oh, yeah... well, I guess that lost output everything with newline. Adding newline to the source will make it all good, and won't affect anything
Okx
Okx
ok
@DeadPossum Oh...
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Q: Can you mix an Esolang with HTML?

Magic Octopus UrnCan you mix an Esolang with HTML? I've seen tons of Javascript + HTML answers, however... I was wondering if it's okay to compete in a graphical-output challenge such as: Use 16 colors while writing Hey! 4 times Using an 05AB1E answer like this: 05AB1E, 52 bytes 16F"Hey!"N4%èžz<N÷h3×"<font c...

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@AdmBorkBork oooh, nice find!
I should rewrite my answer in Rust. Maybe it'll be an actually useful tool with the right speed.
@mınxomaτ Is rust a lot quicker?
@WheatWizard 327 bytes
worst python error ever
TypeError: sum() can't sum strings [use ''.join(seq) instead]
Hello guys
14:52
Hi
Does anyone know of a list of operators for EmojiCode? The documentation describes all the complex stuff like classes but all I need to know are the operators ಠ_ಠ
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Q: Mix pi and e to make pie!

totallyhumanEverybody knows pi the mathematical constant, the ratio of a circle's circumference to its radius. 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510... You probably also know e the mathematical constant, the base of a natural logarithm. 2.71828182845904523536028747135266249775724709369996....

@DeadPossum Nice
I just woke up
I'll respond to all your other comments momentarily
15:10
@flawr Faster than VB? Yeah. Also, the image lib has better cross-platform compatibility than the C library I#m using in my current version (not the answer one).
@WheatWizard whats your timezone? :D
Est :P, but I have today off
@WheatWizard Lucky you :D
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

MTCosterSmooth Usage code-golf popularity-contest We've all seen CPU usage graphs like this one: Doesn't that look ugly? It would look much nicer as a lovely smooth sine wave... Challenge Write a program in the language of your choice that will infinitely produce a regular sine wave in Task Man...

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Q: Build a working game of Tetris in Conway's Game of Life

Joe Z.Here is a theoretical question - one that doesn't afford an easy answer in any case, not even the trivial one. In Conway's Game of Life, there exist constructs such as the metapixel which allow the Game of Life to simulate any other Game-of-Life rule system as well. In addition, it is known that...

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Lol. I put a 50 rep bounty just to say I was first at giving a bounty for Tetris GoL
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Q: Construct a tournament bracket

AdmBorkBorkGiven an input list of non-empty strings, output an ASCII art representation of a tournament, based on the following drawing rules: The number of strings is guaranteed to be of quantity 2,4,8,16,etc. The first two strings play each other, and the next two play each other, and so on. This is the...

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@DeadPossum There is currently a bug in Lost where whitespace at the beginning of the program is trimmed off.
@WheatWizard There are no whitespaces in the begining of quine
That was a reply to an older message asking about spaces being noops
@WheatWizard Oh, cool
@BusinessCat ninja'd
I probably would've posted it first if I had actually been able to find information on what the operators were and how to print numbers
15:46
i didnt print numbers, i returned them from my function and printed in the main function
Yeah I was writing a function too but I couldn't test it very well
to my advantage, i've been using the lang for a while now
@WheatWizard Congrats!
@2EZ4RTZ why 50 0.o people are going to be handing out 500s left and right
I have been looking all around PPCG, but I can't seem to find any challenges that a Intermediate Python programmer can solve! (That haven't already been solved with a heavily golfed Python 3 answer.) Is there any way of finding challenges that haven't already been solved?
15:58
@Bobawob most intermediate-difficulty challenges have answers
and everyone knows python
so good luck. This is unanswered questions: codegolf.stackexchange.com/unanswered
but those are by and large difficult, that's why they are unanswered
@Jordan that's meta not main :P

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