The Nineteenth Byte

Destructible Lemon

12:00 AM

@JoschKraus I don't quite understand you? my point is is that the programming language itself is art somewhat

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon I think he's saying the analogy isn't exactly correct haha

@trichoplax More so in fastest-code than code-golf :P

trichoplax

@JoschKraus Also, not every challenge on this site is about short code ("code-golf"). There are also other types of challenge like fastest-code, code-challenge and king-of-the-hill, which are more likely to use more familiar languages

Josch Kraus

I consider the output of a programming language the "art", and the language itself the means to create the art. Understand me there, I was just curious about your motivation

Christopher

@JoschKraus Do you know javascript?

Josch Kraus

@trichoplax Nice, gonna have a look there

trichoplax

12:02 AM

@ASCII-only No I mean even with golfing languages the new paradigms give new ways of thinking about approaches to problems

Josch Kraus

Yes of course

ASCII-only

@ASCII-only Wait nvm

Christopher

@JoschKraus Opps. Do you know Python?

Josch Kraus

Don't use it much I do simulations for satellite navigation mostly in matlab and python

ASCII-only

@trichoplax Yeah I know, I'm just saying more people would probably benefit from the fastest-code ones because they can be applied in more situations I guess?

Christopher

12:04 AM

@JoschKraus so if you know python :39020645 This is a current King of the Hill challenge every answer is in python (has to be for this challenge) you may want to try your hand

Also if your bot wins then you get 100 rep bounty

That is the only KoTH that is in python right now (afaik)

Destructible Lemon

@JoschKraus well, you know that things don't need to be exactly analogous to the way art is produced to be artlike

trichoplax

@ASCII-only I'd say they're both useful in different ways. Real world programming often doesn't need as much speed optimisation as people want to do anyway...

clap

just out of curiosity how does one type Jelly + 05ab1e? it seems really impractical for typing imo

Business Cat

Jelly can be typed with an international keyboard (but I don't know the details on that) 05AB1E I assume is just copy-paste

Josch Kraus

Haha you guys are crazy, haven't thought at all that there is a community about these kind of things this afternoon :DDD

clap

12:06 AM

ah

ok new question. how do i learn Jelly

Destructible Lemon

@JoschKraus how dare you 😡

Business Cat

We have a chat room dedicated to helping people learn Jelly

clap

oh shit really

thanks

is it the hypertraining room

Business Cat

Yes

clap

or just the one labeled Jelly/

ah ok

Business Cat

12:07 AM

But one of the ROs has to give you access

clap

thanks!

Business Cat

And neither are online atm as far as I can tell

trichoplax

@JoschKraus :) Plenty of people here didn't know about golfing or any of these languages before they found the site. But then they got drawn in...

Phoenix

@Dennis What did you golf in before that

Destructible Lemon

python probably

Business Cat

12:08 AM

Dennis has a fair few CJam answers under his belt

Josch Kraus

@trichoplax so how would you people consider me being part of the gang, do I have to be able to write a google replica entirely in Fish or whats a good place to start right here. Fish surely seems to be the most funny while not being flat stupid like whitespace

Destructible Lemon

it is ><>

trichoplax

@JoschKraus I've never seen a community so welcoming of newcomers. You don't need any prior knowledge, just jump in.

Josch Kraus

@DestructibleLemon what on earth is that

Business Cat

You can go ahead and start using anything you know, more experienced golfers are happy to give tips

Socratic Phoenix

12:11 AM

Reading @JoschKraus question, I wonder if a related meta question along the lines of "resources for discovering and learning obscure/golfing languages" would be helpful.. There's always the list of user-created languages, but that only scratches the surface...

Destructible Lemon

@JoschKraus I made a typo

Business Cat

For easy esolangs to learn, I think ><> and Befunge are probably good, though I haven't used either much

Josch Kraus

I guess you made some weird programming language and now you try to suck me into it :D

Business Cat

CJam is probably the easiest golfing language to learn, at least from my experience

Christopher

Why was I kicked? codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/10184/… says that it is OK to promote your posts if it is relevant. I was trying to tell a new user about a challenge they may enjoy.

ASCII-only

12:12 AM

Easy esolangs? Charcoal :P

Dennis

@Phoenix Bash, then GolfScript, then CJam.

ASCII-only

well idk, but it has a verbose mode which is C-style

14 mins ago, by Dennis

@JoschKraus I didn't know the first thing about Python before I implemented Jelly in it.

Destructible Lemon

oh right

ASCII-only

@JoschKraus fish is a shell language like zsh/bash, ><> is the esoteric language you're probably thinking baout

Destructible Lemon

ecks dee

trichoplax

12:14 AM

> It's done in moderation.

ASCII-only

@trichoplax This is kinda embarrassing but I have to admit I was drawn in via HNQ

trichoplax

@Christopher If it hadn't been linked so many times the past few days, it would have been fine

Christopher

@trichoplax >, but if you are sharing links to your posts more than 3-4 times a day, or multiple times in under 20 minutes, you're doing it wrong

Josch Kraus

@Christopher actually found that quite useful I'll see what I can do about this as soon as its not 3 AM in the night any more

Business Cat

@ASCII-only So was I, I think most people were. But I was kind of sucked in as soon as I saw it

Dennis

12:16 AM

@ASCII-only I don't think I've ever used Python before PPCG. After reading enough answers, I was curious enough, so I implemented my own languages in it: first ShapeScript (which is really simple to implement), then Jelly (which actually made me learn Python).

trichoplax

@Christopher That's an extreme example, not a limit. There's no strict boundary, but it's seemed excessive the last few days

Destructible Lemon

hey dennis posted python answers before jelly answers

I was right apparently

Christopher

@trichoplax You also appear to be on every time I am XD

trichoplax

@Christopher Yeah I haven't been asleep much recently... Notice that I didn't remove the post, so it can still be useful as intended. It wasn't that post in itself that was the problem, just all the ones before

Christopher

@trichoplax removes all the other posts ok i get it

ASCII-only

12:18 AM

Oh no SOGL has become so golfy

Christopher

Oh no I have become so short

trichoplax

@ASCII-only Where do you think I came from...? :)

ASCII-only

Okay what:

5

A: Code point sum quine

Charcoal, 1 byte, sum = 180 (Charcoal SBCS) ⁴ Try it online! In Charcoal's code page, ⁴ has a code of 0xB4 = 180, while the output is 4 -s which is 4 * 45 = 180.

Business Cat

Don't you love when others teach you about your language

Dennis

@DestructibleLemon I might have mixed up the timeline a bit. I definitely didn't know enough Python to do anything serious in it before I implemented my languages in it.

trichoplax

12:20 AM

@ASCII-only I read that as 4 - s and took a long time to work out what it really meant

Dennis

@ASCII-only Embarrassing? I joined PPCG because of code trolling. >_>

8

trichoplax

What??!?

Dennis

Yep. Kept showing up in HNQ and looked interesting.

trichoplax

You can blame Geobits for my arrival - I came here for Hunger Gaming

Destructible Lemon

I joined because of that string pacman challenge I think

Business Cat

12:26 AM

I don't even remember my first post...

Destructible Lemon

I think it might not have been my first post

wait, yeah it was

trichoplax

@BusinessCat My first post was later, but that was what drew me in

Christopher

You know, dennis has hit the repcap more than I have answered most likely

Destructible Lemon

I don't post much

trichoplax

You know, not everything has to be phrased in terms of comparison with Dennis

Dennis

12:28 AM

This might be true though. I've rep capped 421 times.

Christopher

Yeah that is true (what I said)

ASCII-only

Yeah Martin deserves comparison with too

Christopher

@Dennis You also have answers that earn more rep then me

@ASCII-only Martin is less active in chat

HyperNeutrino

Well that off-topic question got enough upvotes to get the user into chat :P

trichoplax

@Christopher I can manage that one too...

Christopher

12:31 AM

@trichoplax If he got 5 rep ever time he repcapped he would have more rep then me

Dennis

@Christopher Sadly, most of my popular answers aren't actually good.

Business Cat

Surprisingly, my highest voted answers aren't super trivial

ASCII-only

@Dennis Are they just Jelly answers? :P

Christopher

@Dennis I can kinda say the same but my most popular answer is +7

Business Cat

Well, the top 2 aren't, then I have some trivial ones just below that...

HyperNeutrino

12:32 AM

My highest-voted answer is for the Extreme Fibonacci challenge lol

trichoplax

@Christopher I was referring to having your rep from a single answer...

Dennis

@ASCII-only Worse. My top answer is just the F00F bug.

Christopher

@trichoplax I know

trichoplax

Oh OK

HyperNeutrino

My third top answer is the crack to Wheat Wizard's first Make Your Language Mostly Unusable CnR attempt by just setting the recursion limit back xD

Business Cat

12:33 AM

My highest-voted is for Regex-Paper-Scissors-Lizard-Spock

trichoplax

6 out of my top 10 answers are on a single closed question

HyperNeutrino

lol

Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino pranked

Business Cat

Which didn't take me long to make but at least it's not completely trivial

Christopher

you all have so much rep :_(

Dennis

12:35 AM

My secret: less chat, more answers.

Destructible Lemon

I'm still trying to think of good koth ideas

Business Cat

ಠ_ಠ

HyperNeutrino

My secret: Be here for a long time. I get rep eventually :P

(Ignore the fact that my profile says I've been a user for 2 months)

Christopher

oh. I may have solved one problem with pop cons.

ASCII-only

My secret: Charcoal

Christopher

12:35 AM

@HyperNeutrino that is wrong

HyperNeutrino

@Christopher yeah of course I've been here for almost 2 years by now, I think.

ASCII-only

@Christopher It's correct, just that user specifically is 2 months old

trichoplax

My secret: graphical-output answers get disproportionately many votes

Christopher

@trichoplax gug

HyperNeutrino

@ASCII-only Okay true :P

trichoplax

12:36 AM

@Christopher What does that stand for?

ASCII-only

@trichoplax :| I should really start making a Pixel art Charcoal derivative

Christopher

@trichoplax huh

typing fast since starting game of Dota

trichoplax

Ah

Christopher

Annd someone left

programmer5000

My top voted answer is curl ai.

trichoplax

12:37 AM

@Christopher Most of my rep is from answers to graphical challenges

HyperNeutrino

ಠ_ಠ voters these days...

Destructible Lemon

hmmm

maybe I should submit my graphical output program I made

HyperNeutrino

lol if you look at my daily rep gain graph it's just a pretty rough "terrain" until the end where it's just a solid chunk of green. No idea what happened these past few days xD

Business Cat

10,10,10, was my highest-voted answer for a while

ASCII-only

Also what why do I have two starboard messages

HyperNeutrino

12:38 AM

Because you're special

:D :P

trichoplax

Apart from the answers to the closed challenge, my top voted answer is my very first PPCG post, and remains my avatar

HyperNeutrino

Oh that's what your avatar is!

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino Wait what you know Anyfix completely :O

HyperNeutrino

Oh it's the weird spinning turtle thingy

@ASCII-only well there isn't much to know... xD

ASCII-only

I'm sure Neil knows Charcoal better than I do now haha

HyperNeutrino

12:40 AM

I'm sure some golfing expert would know Anyfix better than I do if it were worth using in the first place xD

Business Cat

Challenge accepted

trichoplax

@HyperNeutrino Just realised someone answered that this year in Excel

HyperNeutrino

lol

@trichoplax uh wat :o xD

trichoplax

It's kind of square but still works

HyperNeutrino

Interesting.

trichoplax

12:44 AM

@HyperNeutrino The profile says they prefer to keep an air of mystery about them, so perhaps you should check with them IRL before blowing their cover...

HyperNeutrino

hm

Yeah I'll do that actually. I shouldn't talk about users' non-internet identities over the internet without their given permission :P

trichoplax

I know I'd appreciate that if it were me :)

HyperNeutrino

:)

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino He posted one answer and it's invalid >_>

HyperNeutrino

rip

ASCII-only

12:47 AM

Next one is easy but IDK if using charcoal here is a waste EDIT nvm invalidated

HyperNeutrino

I'm trying to use brainf**k

Brian J

Sorry to the people on the OEIS challenge

didn't see that 91 was invalid

so 92 is as well

HyperNeutrino

Guys can we delete 91?

Just give it a downvote and we can start deleting it. I'll flag it as NAA but I'd prefer we delete it before someone chains onto it again

ASCII-only

I could try #91 but I have no idea how to do this haha

Business Cat

Or Dennis could just nuke it

HyperNeutrino

12:51 AM

Dennis nuked it xD

Brian J

Now to figure out what a trivalent graph is lol

Business Cat

It looks like the values for 91 are only known up to A(12)

Does that mean those 12 could just be hardcoded?

Actually there's only 10 since it starts at 3...

Brian J

I'm trying to follow the formula given, and follow it as it keeps going into other sequences

HyperNeutrino

A trivalent graph is a graph for which all vertices have degree three. Makes sense. It has girth n, which means its shortest cycle is of length n. This part is trickier to understand for me, at least in terms of how to program it.

So first, we construct a cycle of length n.

Business Cat

Then figure out how you add more nodes to it without making another cycle longer than n

Err, shorter than n

HyperNeutrino

1:00 AM

Yes.

ASCII-only

And ensure connected edges never exceed three? (Also continue until all nodes have three connected edges

Business Cat

Would be cool if we could A42 again somehow. How else would Retina get to be used on this challenge

HyperNeutrino

lol

@ASCII-only yeah

ASCII-only

@BusinessCat Well Retina can do math

Business Cat

Actually A30 would be just fine as well

Yes it can but it's very awkward

Brian J

1:01 AM

@BusinessCat I'm reading the part at the top, and think I agree with you

Current lower bounds for a(13)..a(32) ....

Current upper bounds for a(13)..a(32) ........

@BusinessCat I was so stoked when I thought I was solving A30

HyperNeutrino

rip it's unsolved

Brian J

Is there a contingency plan for it? Or is the challenge over now, with the 90 answer the winner?

HyperNeutrino

Unsolved sequences have been done before.

Namely, the one about the number of halting Turing machines :P (which cannot be solved)

Phoenix

hmmm...

Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino isn't that infinite?

Business Cat

1:05 AM

Should try to use brainfuck for this one somehow since all the values are <255

HyperNeutrino

@DestructibleLemon no, it's unsolved though

*unsolveable

Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino I mean, there must be infinite halting turing machines

HyperNeutrino

Well for some number N there's some restriction

I think it's "number of unique turing machines that halt in the given number of states"

Destructible Lemon

oh ok

ASCII-only

Well I think the intended method is brute-force

Destructible Lemon

1:17 AM

I'm still trying to think of a good koth idea

Step Hen

@Downgoat @HyperNeutrino someone cracked it

HyperNeutrino

Ooh.

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

code-golf decision-problem It doesn't work on TIO Your challenge is to make a submission that when run on TIO outputs 1 consistent value1, but when run elsewhere outputs another consistent value1. more to come soon... 1Any 2 consistent values work, truthiness doesn't matter as long as they ...

programmer5000

That was fast.

ASCII-only

@StepHen BTW for spoilers just prepend each line with >!

Step Hen

1:24 AM

@ASCII-only I did (it's in peer edit) but it's screwy

ASCII-only

IIRC multiple consecutive lines results in a block spoiler

Step Hen

Not when I tried it, it resulted in a block with literals !s at the beginning of each line

ASCII-only

@StepHen you did have a space after the ! right? (Also two spaces at the end of each line?)

Step Hen

@ASCII-only Also two spaces at the end of each line? not that, thanks

That did it, thanks, dunno why it needs those two spaces

ASCII-only

@StepHen Markdown needs two spaces after each line to signify newline, a single space is just a line continuation because Markdown recommends source lines <80 chars long

2

Step Hen

1:31 AM

@ASCII-only Ah OK, very nice to know, thank you

@cairdcoinheringaahing for the next oeis, can we just hardcode the ~10 numbers in, and undefined behavior outside of that range?

@HyperNeutrino I got more rep on PPCG from NaN != NaN than you did on SO, so ha

ATaco

1:48 AM

I've been having a bit too much fun with my Lua Protoexpressions.

escape = gsub(text, "%W", "%%%0")
palindrome = gsub(text,".*",#gsub(reverse(text),"("..escape(sub(text, -1, -1)).."*)(.*)",#(reverse(b)..a..b)))

A function which palidromises the input, sensitive to repeated characters.

HyperNeutrino

@StepHen >.< evile xD :P

ATaco

If you don't care about being sensitive to multiples, eg. abcc becoming abccba and instead accept abcccba you can use palindrome=gsub(text,"(.*)(.)",#(a..b..reverse(a)))

Downgoat

@Mr.Xcoder do you happen to be proficient in core-graphics? I was wondering if you could help me with this problem >_<

CMP: what was the first post you upvoted on PPCG

@StepHen wuh... O_o how did he...

ATaco

84

A: Golf all the 16 logic gates with 2 inputs and 1 output!

Dominoes, 122,000 bytes or 72 tiles The byte count is the size of the saved file which is 0.122 MB. Domino computing was the inspiration. I have tested all of these up to symmetry (and beyond!) via a virtual-reality Steam game called Tabletop Simulator. Details I/O Start - This is included...

Step Hen

@Downgoat I dunno, I really don't

Downgoat

1:58 AM

huh, also their very first post as a new SE user

trichoplax

@StepHen It's on your profile if you want to find out

ATaco

You can check on your profile.

Go to activity, votes, upvotes, go to the very end.

Step Hen

@trichoplax @ATaco Not about the votes, about my cipher that someone cracked

trichoplax

222

Q: Survival Game - Create Your Wolf

The Board The Board is a two dimensional array of cells. Cells are populated by Animals. Every day, all Animals on the Board simultaneously make one move. If two or more Animals move to the same cell, they fight until one remains. The possible moves and attacks are as follows: Moves - { Move.U...

@StepHen Sorry I misread the link to the previous message

Business Cat

14

A: Showcase of Languages

Cheddar Cheddar is a high-level, functional + object-oriented programming language designed to make programming easier, faster, and more intuitive. Due to the fact Cheddar is still in development, running Cheddar programs can be rather difficult. Ping me in chat, @Downgoat, and I'll help y...

It's true

Downgoat

2:02 AM

:O really

:O screenshot for proof?

Step Hen

6

A: You Are the User: Create the Requirements

Answer 1 - 05AB1E Requirement: Prints 0... without a 0 in the source code ¾

HyperNeutrino

2:34 AM

This is sad ;_; I can't solve a Jelly Hypertraining challenge that I'm fairly confident I didn't struggle so much with when I first did it ;_; probably means I need to train/practice more ofter :P

New Meta Posts

2:54 AM

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Q: Do we need an introductory knowledge base? / Do we need a new language showcase?

So recently, a new user asked a well-meaning question, that was along the lines of "How did you learn all these things and at what point in your life/career did you make the decision to learn a golfing language." Although I don't think this precise wording fits on meta, it did strike me that we d...

discussion

enderland

hm I'm not sure I am able to make the TIO for a challenge I want to answer

Dennis

What's the problem?

enderland

I'm not sure how to ask this without making it obvious what I'm trying to do, lol

ATaco

@ArnoldPalmer I've written somewhat of a tutorial now.

Destructible Lemon

I would like to participate in the formic functions koth but js is evil

enderland

3:08 AM

also for this, it seems trivial to crack most of these by calling them with incorrect args? codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/135363/7924

ATaco

That's the challenge for the cops to try to resolve.

enderland

I'm pretty sure this cracks every python submission.. — enderland 55 secs ago

RIP python? lol

Dennis

Only those that eval the input.

Without any sanity checks, that is.

ATaco

Eval isn't the only way to parse numbers, but it is the shortest. Shame this isn't a golf challenge first :P

MD XF

3:30 AM

Good news - in a couple hours, ppcg.ga and tnb-chat.ga will be a thing

Phoenix

Was tnb.ga taken?

Also, why .ga?

MD XF

Global Access. and it was the only domain available for ppcg, so I decided to be consistent

tnb.<everything> was taken :/

Phoenix

And here I was thinking of the Gabonese Republic.

MD XF

That might be what it stands for, but hey, .tv stands for Tuvalu and everyone calls it Television

Dennis

@MDXF That already existed, no? Did it disappear?

Destructible Lemon

3:39 AM

yes

MD XF

Did what disappear?

Dennis

ppcg.ga

codegolf.stackexchange.com/search?q=ppcg.ga

Destructible Lemon

what are all the other ppcgs

MD XF

Oh yeah it disappeared after a year 'cause whoever registered it was cheap

(cough me too, it'll disappear after a year)

Oh or 3 months if they were incredibly lazy

Dennis

Famously used as (eww"ppcg.ga").

Destructible Lemon

3:40 AM

eww emacs

Dennis

curl ppcg.ga already shows a PPCG frame and some scary JavaScript.

MD XF

Yep

DNS is registering

Destructible Lemon

javascript is bad and I hate it

MD XF

tnb-chat.ga is being slower because I registered eight at once

Dennis

DNS propagation is instant; only clearing DNS caches is slow.
That frame is not going to work though. SE refuses to render in cross-origin frames.

Destructible Lemon

3:43 AM

uh oh?

Dennis

Refused to display 'https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/' in a frame because it set 'X-Frame-Options' to 'SAMEORIGIN'.

Phoenix

<html>
  <head>
    <title>ppcg.ga</title>
    <meta name="description" content="ppcg.ga">
    <meta name="keywords" content="ppcg.ga">
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
    <script type="text/javascript">
        var _gaq = _gaq || [];
        _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-23441223-3']);
        _gaq.push(['_setDomainName', 'none']);
        _gaq.push(['_setAllowLinker', true]);
        _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
        (function() { var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;

curl ppcg.ga ^

MD XF

@Dennis Oh crap, I'll change it to 301 redirect instead of frame cloaking

Phoenix

I just get a blank page when I visit it.

MD XF

All right, modified to HTTP 301 forwarding

should register in a few

It's up

New Main Posts

4:02 AM

1

Q: Take the square root of a string

Motivation In this challenge your task was to multiply two strings, this naturally introduces a way to take the square root of a string. How does it work? Given a string (for example pub) the first thing you need to do, is to determine the ASCII code for each character: "pub" -> [112, 117, 98...

code-golf string printable-ascii

Bruce Forte

4:29 AM

@ATaco Is it better now?

Or would you allow for random strings to be returned?

ATaco

Personally, I suggest any behavior to be allowed, or more accurately, allow the writer to assume such an input would never be provided.

Bruce Forte

Ok, I'll update it again.

Cheers for the feedback!

Mr. Xcoder

4:53 AM

3 hours ago, by Downgoat

@Mr.Xcoder do you happen to be proficient in core-graphics? I was wondering if you could help me with this problem >_<

I am afraid I cannot really help you @Downgoat. If I have any ideas, I'll share them with you

Destructible Lemon

5:22 AM

hmmm I have an idea for a game maybe

your bot has two parts: a simple automaton controlling the walker

and a watcher part that manipulates the grid

you get to move walls around while the walker moves around. you have to try and collect coins or something

how about a "build the wall" two sided koth? yeah I'm still trying to think things up

or maybe just team based with two walls

I also think it would be useful to have supplies in the base, so a team gets an advantage by allowing there to be a way back into the base, but only being available to their own team somehow

New Main Posts

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Q: Map of India - minimum number of bytes

Your challenge is to make a program(less number of bytes than what the below program takes) that should print the map of India with any special character of choice. #include <stdio.h> int main() { int a = 10, b = 0, c = 10; char* str = "TFy!QJu ROo TNn(ROo)SLq SLq ULo+UHs UJq " ...

string ascii-art kolmogorov-complexity

Downgoat

5:39 AM

:| I am trying to buy a notebook and only computers are showing pu

Destructible Lemon

:| still can't get a good koth idea together

Downgoat

@DestructibleLemon idea: they are sheep which are trying to take over world and you program goats to defeat them

You can add thing like climbing vertical cliffs which sheep can't do

Destructible Lemon

kinda vague

Downgoat

goal is to 'destroy' sheep by navigating to all of them

Destructible Lemon

I was also thinking of something simplistic like, called "graph wars"

ATaco

5:45 AM

Destroy the sheep

Destructible Lemon

also that would be a code challenge

ATaco

local r = io.read
io.read = function(s)
	local s = r(s)
	if(s:find("sheep"))then
		return error("Invalid STDIN provided")
	end
	return s
end

Peter Taylor

6:01 AM

@ASCII-only Are you asking for an opinion or asking me to edit them in? Because if it's the former, I think any improvement to OEIS prompted by PPCG qualifies, and if it's the latter the answer is a community wiki so you can do it yourself without treading on anyone's toes.

Phoenix

def gets
    unless $LINES
        $LINES = $<.readlines
    end
    out = $LINES[0]
    $LINES.shift
    abort 'Invalid STDIN provided' if out.contains('sheep')
    return out
end

Downgoat

6:14 AM

has anyone here used a smartpen before?

Phoenix

CMC: Replace your language's input method with one that rejects 'sheep'

Mr. Xcoder

@Phoenix Can we throw a fatal error if the input is sheep?

Phoenix

Yes

Downgoat

@Phoenix JS: a=prompt,prompt=c=>~(b=a()).search`sheep`||b

DJMcMayhem

@Phoenix would çsheep/ZQ count? (Quit if input contains sheep)

Mr. Xcoder

6:23 AM

def readInput():
    i = input()
    if i == 'sheep':
        raise ValueError('Sheeps are evil ceatures that destroy our beautiful planet. Therefore, we cannot allow sheep to enter our field.\nAccess: Denied.')
    return i

print(readInput())

Phoenix

@Mr.Xcoder The idea is you redifine your normal input function.

Mr. Xcoder

@Phoenix Ahh

Downgoat

:| so apparently the notebook is supposed to be microwavable but apparently it's actually just the pen so you buy $30 notebook but actually useless because you need to buy their pen

Phoenix

Did you microwave your notebook

Downgoat

@Phoenix don't worry you're supposed to

it's a smart notebook

Phoenix

6:25 AM

I just downloaded a .zip.tar.bz2

I should stop what I'm doing before my computer dies again.

Mr. Xcoder

@Phoenix It would work if I called it def input().

NVM ^

ATaco

Lua, 83 bytes. r=io.read io.read=function(...)s=r(...)if s:find"sheep"then error()end return s end

Mr. Xcoder

@Downgoat You received a comment on SO. Did it solve your problem?

Downgoat

unfortunately not because apparently .mask shows only upon the text rather hiding only the text if that makes sense

like in here:

I think CoreGraphics is the only way to go

really surprised there is not better way given this effect is seen all over iOS

Mr. Xcoder

@Downgoat Swift development has lots of strange stuff

Gtg! See ya

Downgoat

6:29 AM

@Mr.Xcoder cya .o/

Downgoat

6:41 AM

2017: can launch a 130 ton rocket and have it land perfectly on a moving platform in the middle of the ocean and do it again
2017: cannot make text transparent on iPhone

ATaco

2017: can create artificial intelligence capable of creating photorealistic images based on only sentances alone
2017: cannot vertically align a div

Mayube

8:03 AM

A CSS clause walks into a bar. A barstool in a different bar across town falls over

Keyu Gan

8:29 AM

Which reason is used to reject an edit on other's answer in code-golf? The edit uses a different method to solve the problem in same language. Should it be 'Clearly object to author's intent' or 'This edit was intended to address the author of the post and makes no sense as an edit. It should have been written as a comment or an answer'?

I chose the latter