The Nineteenth Byte

ASCII-only

4:00 AM

i don't think it matters though since you're only matchmaking once right?

Destructible Lemon

yeah, I guess

if I don't have an init, does that cause issues?

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon no

Destructible Lemon

kk might as well move the getting the bots list so I can get rid of init

totallyhuman

this

open the debug

Destructible Lemon

idea for programming language: the programming language is really casual, it crashes if your program has caps (not casual enough), or the words you use are too long (stop being pretentios). also you have to make tpyos to be casual

MD XF

4:04 AM

@totallyhuman -_-

Destructible Lemon

@MDXF that is a nice smelling face

but maybe it should have a nose

Wheat Wizard

Does anyone know why this always ends in nil?

MD XF

@DestructibleLemon >_>

Can anyone please help me out, I need input on this

Wheat Wizard

I can't figure it out, because you are not allowed to add nil to a list so the list [nil] most appear from somewhere

ASCII-only

@WheatWizard Because [][0] == nil

Wheat Wizard

4:07 AM

How can that happen?

Mendeleev

Ruby is cool

Use Ruby

Wheat Wizard

if x is empty shouldn't it execute the last bit?

ASCII-only

@WheatWizard because you don't check size of array?

@WheatWizard example

@WheatWizard No? [] is truthy

Wheat Wizard

what?!

then why does it ever hit a base case?

ASCII-only

@WheatWizard >_> Ruby isn't Python

@WheatWizard because nil itself is falsy

Wheat Wizard

4:09 AM

Oh and [][1..-1]==nil

ASCII-only

@WheatWizard here

Wheat Wizard

tfw your code works but you were not even close to understanding why

Destructible Lemon

ruby why

does your soul degrade from using ruby?

ASCII-only

@WheatWizard IIRC in ruby only nil and false are falsy

Wheat Wizard

Thanks.

Mendeleev

4:12 AM

@ASCII-only This is true

@DestructibleLemon No, it improves

Destructible Lemon

@Mendeleev I'm sure that is what the soul degraded would want to believe

Winston loved big brother

Mendeleev

Well then my soul is dead

99% of the code I've written in the past year has been Ruby

Wheat Wizard

I write ruby a good deal, I just have never golfed in ruby

Mendeleev

@DestructibleLemon PyCharm?

@WheatWizard Take a look at my user profile.

Destructible Lemon

@Mendeleev yes

Mendeleev

4:14 AM

codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/53551/mendeleev?tab=answers

@DestructibleLemon Which edition are you using?

Destructible Lemon

idk

idc really

Mendeleev

@DestructibleLemon Simple way to answer that: Is it free, or did you pay or get a student edition?

Destructible Lemon

freeeeee

ATaco

In JS, "1"==true returns true

Destructible Lemon

please no

the worst thing python has is 1==true false==0

actually "1"==1 is worst thing in js probably

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4:22 AM

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Q: Print your system's logo

This is a system-specific challenge, meaning you must use a language that was made for a system (e.g. Swift for Apple, Visual Basic for Windows). "System" can mean an operating system, or a specific computer (e.g. Commodore 64, Apple ][) The challenge Pick a system. Now pick a language that wa...

ATaco

Destructible Lemon

without making bad transivities count

Mendeleev

@ATaco destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat

ATaco

1 == "1" && !(true == "true")

totallyhuman

false?

ATaco

4:26 AM

(true)

Destructible Lemon

true == 1 though

ATaco

But true != "true"

Destructible Lemon

if true == "true", then "1" == "true"

ATaco

Because reasons.

Destructible Lemon

which would be many worse

ATaco

4:27 AM

Tell that to PHP.

ASCII-only

f=->x{x[0]?(x.min==x[0]?[x[0]]:[])+f[x[1..-1]]:[]}
f=->x{x[0]?(x.min==x[0]?[x[0]]:[])+f[x.drop 1]:[]}
f=->x{g=x[0];g ?(x.min==g ?[g]:[])+f[x[1..-1]]:[]}

Why do whey all have to be the same length :(

Destructible Lemon

PHP is satire, right?

PHP - (even) PHP Hates PHP

ATaco

php.net/manual/en/types.comparisons.php

That's the documentation on Comparisons.

ASCII-only

@WheatWizard BTW I have no idea how to make 000/001 work with 110/111 here haha

Destructible Lemon

... "php" == true

... "php" == 0

true != 0

ninja'd

ATaco

4:32 AM

PHP doesn't love you.

It's a rule.

Destructible Lemon

what kind of drugs were these people on?

maybe they just hated people so much

at least strict comparisons make sense

ATaco

"123456789012345678901234567890"=="123456789012345678900000000000" is truthy.

10

Destructible Lemon

A comparison table for <=,<,=>,> would be nice...
Following are TRUE (tested PHP4&5):
NULL <= -1
NULL <= 0
NULL <= 1
!(NULL >= -1)
NULL >= 0
!(NULL >= 1)
That was a surprise for me (and it is not like SQL, I would like to have the option to have SQL semantics with NULL...).

@ATaco wtf

ok at least you could excuse the other things

as being different types

but two entirely different strings being equal...

totallyhuman

Destructible Lemon

I think the creators of php are really confused as to why their lang got so popular

please star the sting comparison so the image appears just below it

> PHP's loose comparisons can be a huge convenience when used properly!

he truly is crazy (888s)

wait, isn't "a134"==134 as well

I don't actually know

ok, it isn't

ATaco

4:44 AM

PHP is here and there.

Destructible Lemon

"134a"==134

MD XF

Is this okay? I want to delete it right away if it isn't

Destructible Lemon

wait a minute

you lied

no it isn't truthy

ATaco

(On 32 bit machines)

You'll need to increase the size of the numbers for 64 bit machines.

@MDXF Sorry buddy, not a legal quine.

MD XF

@ATaco Darn, is that because everything is pretty much just echoed?

ATaco

4:48 AM

It's a "Literal Only" quine.

It's essentially reading the source code, with a parser in the middle.

Destructible Lemon

@ATaco how large?

user165474

I was literally just going to post an explanation for my downvote but I got delete-ninja'd :_:

ATaco

Destructible Lemon

but the number was already that large

you lied!

for stars!

a most heinous crime

ATaco

I didn't notice I got stars...

totallyhuman

4:51 AM

My gif still stands

Mendeleev

Destructible Lemon

maybe they updated it

ATaco

Patched at 5.4.4

Destructible Lemon

wait, in version 5, they were like, "hey, this is an issue"

not before

Martin Ender

@Christopher wrap the whole program in a group and use i on that. E.g. put i( in the first stage's configuration.

Destructible Lemon

4:52 AM

fifth major version and they finally fixed the stupidest language feature

8

user165474

I like how you avoid saying "bug" and use "feature" instead.

Destructible Lemon

@Mendeleev no, it is because vacuums keep sound still, and vacuum cleaners clean vacuums, and release the sounds out

@HyperNeutrino well, it was there for 5 language versions

user165474

ah i see

Destructible Lemon

Why would you even cast to float in a string comparison‽

it's like if python 3 was normal, but python2, as well as having print not be a function, and different function names for input and other trivia, all functions returning strings returned "string"+(actual output)

Mendeleev

How do you even get input in Python?

Destructible Lemon

4:57 AM

input()

Mendeleev

huh

Destructible Lemon

in python 2, that evaluated as python code the input

you would have to use raw_input()

Mendeleev

what

how did you

oh

Destructible Lemon

input() was mainly used for golf I guess

totallyhuman

Python 4 will feature raw_eval_input()

Destructible Lemon

5:01 AM

why would it do that?

raw_input is way deprecated

python updates: "you use input() now for raw input. if you wanna eval input, eval input"

php updates: '"123456789012345678901234567890"=="123456789012345678900000000000" is falsy now'

@ATaco I don't think you understand how small 2**64 is

18446744073709551615 = 2**64-1

ATaco

I am aware.

I was just citing the post I was reading tbh.

Jan Dvorak

@DestructibleLemon in PHP, or in reality?

Destructible Lemon

reality

I mean, it is still a big number

but not thaaaat big

user165474

I need professional help... my downvote button isn't working D: Geobits halp

user165474

oyay it worked

Jan Dvorak

5:07 AM

it's smaller than 1 / the probability that a random sequence of DNA will encode something capable of self-replication.

Destructible Lemon

how do you generate the sequence of dna?

Jan Dvorak

uniformly random of some length of your choice

user165474

what is a group of penguins called

Jan Dvorak

a murder, if I'm to take a stab in the dark.

user165474

ooo ok

user165474

5:15 AM

crows come in murders i know for sure

user165474

so maybe

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Q: exact arithmetic using huge numbers?

I'm not sure whether questions about programming puzzles, instead of questions posing a puzzle or code-golf, are welcome here---please let me know if I should move this to StackOverflow. I am looking at the "Shoot-out" puzzle problem on Kattis. In principle it looks straightforward: there are 2^...

probability-theory

user165474

colony

user165474

rookery

user165474

huddle

Destructible Lemon

5:22 AM

@HyperNeutrino penguins

user165474

>_>

Destructible Lemon

stationary setguin

totallyhuman

I think it's called a raft

Destructible Lemon

I like my second one best

user165474

hm. a random website tells me it's a colony/rookery/huddle :P

Destructible Lemon

5:28 AM

I still say stationery setguin

except with better spelling this time I think

totallyhuman

discover-the-world.co.uk/blog/…

> A group of penguins in the water is called a 'raft' – a group of penguins on land is called a waddle. Other collective nouns for penguins include: rookery, colony, and huddle.

ASCII-only

Anyone know if Mathematica's Predict is arbitrary precision?

totallyhuman

I bet that guy over in the corner knows, his name's tungsten

Mendeleev

This game is pretty awesome

bloodrizer.ru/games/kittens

ASCII-only

@totallyhuman I don't think Stephen Tungsten has a SE account

@Mendeleev It's also like 7 years old, I'm amazed you didn't discover it a few years earlier :P

Mendeleev

5:33 AM

It's being constantly updated

also, I'm only 15

ASCII-only

@Mendeleev I'm 16, I found it in Grade 8 (y'know, when Candy Box/Cookie Clicker/other early incrementals were popular)

Mendeleev

Cookie Clicker was popular about 3 years ago in my area

Never heard of Candy Box

Destructible Lemon

candy box is good

ASCII-only

@Mendeleev you what

Destructible Lemon

it is

you can throw candies on the ground

Mendeleev

5:37 AM

candies.aniwey.net

This one?

ASCII-only

@Mendeleev yeah (well cb2 is better imo) (candybox2.net)

Destructible Lemon

throw all the candies on the ground

Mendeleev

@ASCII-only link fail

@ASCII-only ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED

ASCII-only

@Mendeleev no that was intentional

Mendeleev

@ASCII-only ah

ASCII-only

5:38 AM

@Mendeleev fixed

Mendeleev

thanks

Destructible Lemon

oh i got ninja'd

how can I get the name of a class?

Mendeleev

@DestructibleLemon look on your school's website

Destructible Lemon

ಠ_ಠ

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon pls no

Destructible Lemon

5:43 AM

why not?

what's the problem with getting the name of a class in python

I want to use it for scoring at the end

@ASCII-only

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon then like str(class)[7:-2] or something :P

Destructible Lemon

I think str(class).split(".")[-1] will work?

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon idk, try it

totallyhuman

6:07 AM

class.__name__ ಠ_ಠ

instance.__class__.__name__ if you have an instance

Python gives it to you easy

Downgoat

Aww yiss new goat simulator is out

@ASCII-only are you only junior in HS or something then?

ASCII-only

@Downgoat no what i'm in ~~college~~ university

Downgoat

:O are you like genius

ASCII-only

@Downgoat ~~yes~~ no

Downgoat

In freedom land, 16 = sophomore or junior in high school

Jan Dvorak

6:25 AM

punches an eagle

totallyhuman

Well then

betseg

6:36 AM

Last xkcd is about eagles

It's cool, it's totally ethical--they're all programmed to hunt whichever bird of prey is most numerous at the moment, so they leave the endangered ones alone until near the end.

totallyhuman

Black hat! :D

Phoenix

6:50 AM

No one I know is patriotic or anything. We've basically agreed Canada is a direct upgrade to the U.S.

ATaco

Australia is pretty great.

Phoenix

Yes it is, I want to go there someday.

I want to live in Sweden tho

Anonymous

@JanDvorak Please don't stab penguins in the dark

Destructible Lemon

@totallyhuman this is what I wanted. excuse me for not knowing

Phoenix

Wat
What is this about penguin stabbing

Why would anyone do that

ATaco

7:01 AM

Apparently I'm a town.

Ataco

Ataco is a town and municipality in the Tolima department of Colombia. The population of the municipality was 20,060 in the 1993 census. The Colombian state has been accused of human rights violations in Ataco[1]. == References == Uribe Hands Colombia's Mining Resources Over to the Multinationals...

Phoenix

> the Colombian state has been accused of human rights violations in Ataco…

Jan Dvorak

I can accuse anyone of anything

Phoenix

You seem to have been accused of stabbing penguins

ATaco

Stabbing penguins is a major violation of the law here.

Destructible Lemon

my essay uses the term memetic virus. am I smart yet

Phoenix

7:13 AM

Well, you're one of the smartest lemons I know.

Destructible Lemon

my essay is finished, except for references

also I only have twelve minutes

music speeds up

Phoenix

@ATaco I think stabbing penguins is a felony basically everywhere, considering animal cruelty laws.

ATaco

At the very least it's rather rude.

Phoenix

You can do your references in twelve Minutes.

Destructible Lemon

I had troubles before

Phoenix

7:16 AM

By references, do you mean citations? Those don't take long.

Destructible Lemon

I'll be back in 10 minutes

Phoenix

Staying away from TNB willingly is a feat many have attempted but few have succeeded at.

ATaco

I used to have a userscript that limited by TNB usage.

I disabled it.

Phoenix

It's like holding your breath. You can do it for a short while but then it starts hurting and you go back to TNB.

Destructible Lemon

I did it

I'm back btw

so I emailed the work now

that was fun I guess

I would have looked up game music and listened to it on 1.5* speed, but I didn't have the time

Phoenix

7:28 AM

NJ

Destructible Lemon

thanks

Phoenix

What is a memetic virus?

Destructible Lemon

basically an idea that spreads like a disease

I use it to refer to pseudo medicines

betseg

Like placebo or acupuncture?

Jan Dvorak

but, placebo actually works

feersum

7:41 AM

Anything can be a placebo.

Therefore all treatments actually work.

betseg

@JanDvorak still, both are pseudo medicine in some way

@feersum :O

Adám

@HyperNeutrino APL, 11: ∨/=/2⊥⍣¯1⊢⎕

Jan Dvorak

define pseudo-medicine

betseg

not genuine medicine

Took that pseudo definition from Google :p

Anonymous

@Phoenix Disney soundtracks

Jan Dvorak

7:47 AM

define genuine. Those $1000 sugar pills surely did help me get rid of my symptoms of glucose deficiency.

Destructible Lemon

7:58 AM

Reiki is a pseudo medicine, for example

it is "medicine" not based on scientific evidence, but tries to pretend it has evidence

nowadays it calls itself CAM

so-called Complementary or Alternative Medicine

if you have so-called it becomes sCAM

The great thing about placebos is that the don't have harmful drug interactions

Anonymous

Could I get some more feedback on this?

Destructible Lemon

8:31 AM

I think my koth is just about done.

ASCII-only

@HelkaHomba That's not going to relieve the problem of TVTropes :P

Erik the Outgolfer

@HelkaHomba TooManyTabs

I use it successfully

Destructible Lemon

there is a squiggly line!

because I could make a function static!

aha, I disabled it!

Destructible Lemon

8:51 AM

just realised I'm not actually sure how I;'m going to implement the placings...

like I have to add cases for ties

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon use dominance matrices for ties :P

Destructible Lemon

9:24 AM

some crazy shit is going on with the hps.

also just in general

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon 0/10 that means something is wrong

Destructible Lemon

well, for one thing it isn't being outputted as what I assigned it to be

ASCII-only

idk how you even managed to make crazy shit happen at all lol

Destructible Lemon

also the break is being executed somehow, even though the health is > 0

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon pls pastebin

Destructible Lemon

9:27 AM

ok I figured it out

the issue is that the dungeon is only one card for some reason

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon um what

@DestructibleLemon pls pastebin?

Anonymous

10:07 AM

→ 20 messages moved to Trash

Anonymous

Good enough

Shaggy

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Set The Shapes code-golfarray-manipulationmath Updated on 23/05/17 with new shapes & questions Challenge Let s be the sequence of polygonal numbers with S sides and t be the sequence of polygonal numbers with T sides. Take the set union of the first n elements of s and the first n element...

Last call for feedback before I post it to main.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

The alphabet - my way Your pointy-haired boss gives you a list of words and tells you to sort them. So you give him back a sorted list. "Wrong!" he says. "I want them sorted according to MY alphabet..." Challenge Given a new ordering of the alphabet and a list of words, sort the words accor...

Shaggy

10:40 AM

@Mego, you don't think my Sandbox differs sufficiently in that it asks for the first n numbers, rather than just the nth number, of 2 shapes, rather than one, with the added challenge that the output be sorted and unique?

Anonymous

@Shaggy 1) First n elements isn't very different from the nth element. 2) Solving the challenge twice isn't very different from solving it once. 3) Performing a set union is a trivial addition. All three of those things together don't make it sufficiently different to not be a dupe in my opinion.

Shaggy

@Mego Fair enough.

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Q: ᴳᵉᶰᵉʳᵃᵗᵉ ᵀᶦᶰʸ ᵀᵉˣᵗ

Challenge Your program needs to take an input of a string, where the string has only letters, no special characters, no numbers, and no accents (they look all weird). Then, your program should output a superscript version. Example Input: Hello World Output: ᴴᵉᶫᶫᵒ ᵂᵒʳᶫᵈ Test Cases hello - ʰ...