The Nineteenth Byte

DJMcMayhem

18:00

(rarely thankfully)

Anonymous

@AdmBorkBork PHP doesn't follow any rules, so it's not even relevant :P

3

AdmBorkBork

IEE 754-ish

Pavel

Ooh, are we hating on PHP now? I thought we were skill kicking around Node.js.

AJMansfield

@Mego the 2008 standard defines a total order function though that's different from the standard order though.

Anonymous

@Pavel We have multiple legs

AJMansfield

18:04

For this total order, I already have -
Inf<-1<-0<+0<+1<+Inf, and that +NaN/-NaN are also considered larger/smaller than any number, I just dont know if Inf<NaN or Inf>NaN

Anonymous

I don't think Inf<NaN and Inf>NaN are defined

AJMansfield

Or what order NaNs with different fraction parts go in

Helka Homba

Watching George Ezra sing is so confusing. How can his voice be that deep?

Pavel

Infinity < NaN
false
Infinity > NaN
false

AJMansfield

I'm referring to totalOrder(NaN, Inf), not normal <

AdmBorkBork

18:07

@AJMansfield found it

Jan Dvorak

In Ruby, <=> involving NaNs returns nil whereas normally it's either -1, 0 or 1 when NaN isn't involved.

AdmBorkBork

If x < y, totalOrder(x, y) is true.

totalOrder(−NaN, y) is true where −NaN represents a NaN with negative sign bit and y is a floating-point number.

totalOrder(x, +NaN) is true where +NaN represents a NaN with positive sign bit and x is a floating-point number

If x and y are both NaNs, then totalOrder reflects a total ordering based on:
i) negative sign orders below positive sign
ii) signaling orders below quiet for +NaN, reverse for −NaN
iii) lesser payload, when regarded as an integer, orders below greater payload for +NaN,
reverse for −NaN.

nothing about inf

Geobits

@HelkaHomba Yeah the first time I saw/heard him was on some late show singing live. Total surprise.

Helka Homba

be?

Geobits

Mobile is terrible, what can I say?

Helka Homba

18:09

Geobits = George Ezra? ...I doubt it

Kritixi Lithos

Do you use swipe on Google Keyboard or any other keyboard?

AJMansfield

Hmmm. The payload for Inf is all '1' in the spec

AdmBorkBork

@HelkaHomba First three letters match.

betseg

@KritixiLithos I do

Geobits

No swipe. It's worse if I do, trust me.

Anonymous

18:10

NaN > Inf according to totalOrder

Anonymous

(and -NaN < -Inf)

Geobits

@AdmBorkBork Damn, you found me out.

AdmBorkBork

Half-Life 3 confirmed.

Kritixi Lithos

I use swipe on Gboard (oh right, it's not called Google Keyboard anymore)

AJMansfield

@AdmBorkBork @Mego thanks, that's just what I needed to know.

Anonymous

18:14

Note that I read that from documentation and didn't actually test it myself in a language

AdmBorkBork

... someone just called me with a caller ID of "THOUSANDEYES"

Geobits

Be afraid.

AdmBorkBork

Yeah, I didn't answer it. I like being alive.

Kritixi Lithos

It's Geobits?

Pavel

If Geobits calls you, do you want to pick up?

Let's all consider this for a moment.

Geobits

18:17

Of course you do. How is that even a question?

AdmBorkBork

Sure, I would.

Geobits

If he called me, I'd definitely pick up, out of sheer curiosity.

Anonymous

@AdmBorkBork Was it a restricted number?

Anonymous

If Geobits called me, I'd be afraid to pick up. He'd somehow manage to downvote me over the phone.

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Geobits

When you get downvoted over the phone, you get downvoted in real life.

Pavel

18:18

> Be afraid.

AdmBorkBork got called by Geobits confirmed.

AdmBorkBork

@Mego No, but a reverse search doesn't yield much info.

Geobits

It wasn't these guys?

Kritixi Lithos

If Geobits called himself, Geobits would repeatedly downvote himself until there would be no more downvotes left in the world

Geobits

There are always more downvotes. It's downvotes all the way down.

AdmBorkBork

@Geobits Sure, could be. It was an Austin, TX area code, so that could make sense, too.

Pavel

18:21

@AdmBorkBork That... might actually be important.

AdmBorkBork

No, we don't contract with them. Never even heard of 'em.

Likely a cold call.

Geobits

If it was important they'd change their name so it wasn't so demon-lord sounding.

AdmBorkBork

@Geobits Monty Python beast from Holy Grail.

Helka Homba

CMC: Name a language that has a keyword (no imports required) no other language has.

AdmBorkBork

PowerShell

Helka Homba

18:23

Name the keyword too

Pavel

Just keywords are also builtin symbols?

AdmBorkBork

dynamicparam

Helka Homba

Or is that a keyword in MarioLANG?

Geobits

Does it count if the keyword exists in another language, but for a different purpose?

Kritixi Lithos

Processing, PVector (I think). I doubt any other languages have the same builtin, due to the name (Processing + Vector → PVector)

Helka Homba

18:24

@Geobits No. The string must be different

Anonymous

@HelkaHomba Python 3's nonlocal might count

Helka Homba

@Pavel builtin symbols can count too (e.g. APL probably has lots)

@Mego ooh, maybe

Basic Sunset

Assuming different variants of SQL don't count as different languages, I doubt anything else has AUTO_INCREMENT

Anonymous

@HelkaHomba In that case, all of the box drawing symbols from Actually :P

AdmBorkBork

dynamicparam is like param (which you've likely seen plenty of times on my answers), but you can somehow conditionally define them. I've never used it.

Helka Homba

18:26

Is that like default parameters but fancier?

Kritixi Lithos

@HelkaHomba Dyalog APL, ⍝

It's used in comments

Pavel

@HelkaHomba Mathematica, CellularAutomota

Anonymous

@KritixiLithos That looks like a toe

AdmBorkBork

@HelkaHomba No, it's a way of adding additional parameters to a function definition at runtime.

Geobits

As far as I know, only Java (and fake Javas like Groovy and J#) has strictfp.

Kritixi Lithos

18:28

What about Kotlin, is that also a "fake Java"?

Geobits

How about "things that target the JVM"?

betseg

_Alignof, C. I think.

Pavel

@betseg Not in C++?

@Geobits J# targets .NET

betseg

@Pavel Google'd, Wikipedia'd, only alignof in C++. I think.

Geobits

@Pavel It's still a fake Java to my mind, but YMMV :P

AdmBorkBork

18:32

@HelkaHomba powershellmagazine.com/2014/05/29/…

betseg

Basically, everything here seems C-only or C/C++-only

Helka Homba

@AdmBorkBork so many square brackets..

AdmBorkBork

@HelkaHomba Yeah, there's a lot of syntax if you want to write a "good" reusable cmdlet, like something I would use in production. Code-golf here is like 99% of that stuff stripped away.

Geobits

TIL there is such thing as "good" powershell.

AdmBorkBork

I'm happy you're finally starting to see the light.

Geobits

18:36

I'm happy you rotated your avatar to match mine. It's flattering.

AdmBorkBork

Nothing to do with voting. It's indicative of the desire to golf down submissions.

Anonymous

@Geobits Remove-Item "C:\Program Files\WindowsPowerShell" -Force -Recurse

AdmBorkBork

;-)

Geobits

We all know it's a downvoting powershell :P

Cyoce

How do I test if two strings are equal in J? I have eq =: 4 : '* */((_*(#x)=#y){.x)=((_*(#x)=#y){.y)' but that seems a bit long.

AdmBorkBork

18:39

@Mego Oh, you're going to get an access violation somewhere there. That'll be entertaining. I should spin up a VM at home just to try that.

Geobits

geobits@geobits-laptop:~$ Remove-Item "C:\Program Files\WindowsPowerShell" -Force -Recurse
Remove-Item: command not found
geobits@geobits-laptop:~$

Was that supposed to do something? :P

AdmBorkBork

Maybe you need to use one of the aliases for Remove-Item, like rm

Geobits

I doubt it's gonna find my C drive either way :P

Anonymous

@Geobits Looks like you're in the clear!

Geobits

phew

betseg

18:42

sudo rm /bin/sudo (warning: your whole system may become unusable)

Kritixi Lithos

CMC: what's your terminal prompt? (slightly inspired by Geobits' one ^^^^^^^)

AdmBorkBork

I do like how PowerShell has six built-in aliases for Remove-Item -- del, erase, rd, ri, rm, rmdir

@KritixiLithos PS C:\Tools\Scripts>

Anonymous

@KritixiLithos mego@kratos

Geobits

@KritixiLithos If it isn't clear in my snippet, that ~ is current path (in blue), while the user/etc is green.

betseg

@KritixiLithos something like "betseg > ~ >" but with cool power line font arrows and cool colors

Kritixi Lithos

18:45

Mine is kritixi@time:dir$ where time is the current time in HH:MM:SS and dir is the current directory

AdmBorkBork

@Geobits Oh, that's a neat poll. What colors do people primarily use? I'm a bright-green-on-black sort of person. My admin shell is bright-red-on-black.

betseg

Current time as in the time that prompt opened or "current" current time?

Kritixi Lithos

@betseg I gave up on the powerline prompt because it required me to have RobotoMono, but I just hate RM's semi-colon

@betseg The former

flawr

@Riker just watch 5 seconds from 16:44

Pavel

@betseg sudo apt uninstall sudo

DJMcMayhem

18:46

@KritixiLithos I'm boring and I haven't customized it, so it's just C:\Users\<first name>

Kritixi Lithos

@AdmBorkBork Just plain white on black :P But it used to be black on blue

Anonymous

@AdmBorkBork There are other options than classic green-on-black?

Geobits

Mine is slightly transparent black background, bold green for user, bold blue path, and light grey for user input.

betseg

@KritixiLithos there are lots of PL fonts github.com/powerline/fonts

flawr

@Pavel aka sudocide

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Geobits

18:47

I like it transparent so i can layer instead of ugly ass tiling :P

Kritixi Lithos

@betseg Is there a PL font for Menlo?

DJMcMayhem

Doorknob would be ashamed of you

Doorknob

yep

8

betseg

@KritixiLithos dunno that repo has meslo

DJMcMayhem

Wow, that was fantastic timing

Kritixi Lithos

18:48

@betseg I've already looked at other ones, Roboto Mono was the best of them, but still no Menlo :(

DJMcMayhem

@Doorknob Did you see my vim-riddle the other day? No one has solved it yet

Pavel

You can recover sudo with pkexec

Kritixi Lithos

@betseg meslo seems similar to menlo... but nah, I'm not going to bother

betseg

@KritixiLithos why do you hate it + it's an open source font you can edit it

Kritixi Lithos

I like it, it's just the semi-colon that bugs me

Geobits

18:50

Use a language that doesn't have them then.

Pavel

use fira code

AdmBorkBork

@Geobits Oh, that's a good point, the PowerShell ISE has lots of options for keyword highlighting. Below is an example.

Pavel

@Doorknob Why does this have 5 stars

AdmBorkBork

Doorknob

@DJMcMayhem Oh yeah, I was on mobile at the time. I'll give it a shot

Pavel

18:51

@DJMcMayhem What is it?

Doorknob

2 days ago, by DJMcMayhem

@Doorknob @Riker @Downgoat @allothervimusers: Vim riddle: What sequence of normal mode commands can you call so that the dot command repeatedly '.' moves the cursor instead of changing the text in the buffer?

Geobits

@AdmBorkBork I had mine detailed and intricate for lots of different stuff once. Once.

Kritixi Lithos

@Geobits Well, I mainly program in Processing/Java...

Geobits

Too much hassle trying to remember/save it if it got borked.

@KritixiLithos See there's your problem right there :P

Pavel

@Geobits Don't you use Java?

@KritixiLithos May I interest you in Kotlin?

Geobits

18:52

I didn't say the Java part was a problem...

AdmBorkBork

@Geobits Yeah. I go launch PowerShell ISE on some other machine (say, if I'm doing something locally on a server), and it's this ugly blue background with white text and just yuck.

Kritixi Lithos

There is no problem with Processing, it's basically just Java, but golfier and more amazing

Geobits

"Java but golfier" is a sin though.

Pavel

Processing == Noob Tube

Doorknob

@DJMcMayhem bah, cvl<C-r>" doesn't work because the register thing isn't reevaluated

Kritixi Lithos

18:55

@Pavel No, just no, that is so ಠ_ಠ

@DJMcMayhem Can you go into insert mode?

DJMcMayhem

Yes

@Doorknob ooh, cool idea

Too bad it doesn't work

Poke

the trick is golfing java; not writing a language that does it for you

2

:P

Pavel

@DJMcMayhem i, . will then move the cursor one to the right every time you use it.

DJMcMayhem

Is there an <esc> in there somewhere?

But that's pretty much what I had in mind

Kritixi Lithos

@Pavel 2 bytes: o<esc>

DJMcMayhem

18:58

That changes the text

Kritixi Lithos

Don't they both change the text?

DJMcMayhem

You could do o<esc><del> though

That'll change at the bottom of the buffer though

This is still by far my favorite answer on the site, by the way. I can't count how many times I've watched the GIF. — carusocomputing 3 mins ago

:D That's the coolest comment I've ever gotten

Anonymous

@Sherlock9 Factorio 0.15 playtest available Tuesday

Kritixi Lithos

sometimes cool comments like these make up for the lack of upvotes on your post, it lets you know that other people appreciate your work

Pavel

@DJMcMayhem Which answer? I want to see teh GIF

Geobits

19:01

Click the time link

Kritixi Lithos

You can click on the link to go to the comment, which is on the post

ninja'd

DJMcMayhem

If you click the 3 mins ago part it'll link you--- ninja'd

Pavel

Ooh, didn't know that, ty

Gif is cool, yes.

DJMcMayhem

@KritixiLithos That post isn't really suffering from a lack of upvotes. :P

Doorknob

@DJMcMayhem Interestingly, i<C-o>~<Left><C-o>~ (or replacing <Left> with <C-o>h) doesn't work and acts the same way as ~, for reasons I cannot discern

(But yeah, now I feel stupid for not having thought of i :P)

DJMcMayhem

19:04

o_O weird

I think I know why though

Try ihello<C-o>~<esc>. the dot is mapped to ~, not it i hello...

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Kritixi Lithos

@DJMcMayhem wait, is del the "delete" key? It doesn't do anything for me

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DJMcMayhem

@KritixiLithos oh. Huh, I wonder if that's cause of my config

Doorknob

19:20

it's probably either your terminal emulator or a difference between vim and neovim

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Q: Tips for golfing in Charcoal

Charcoal is a language created by ASCII-Only that specialises in ASCII art challenges. What tips do you have for golfing in Charcoal? Obviously I am looking for tips related specifically to Charcoal, not those which can be applied to most - if not all - languages.

code-golf tips

Jan Dvorak

@ASCII-only I believe I don't appreciate the language name. It's been already taken.

Geobits

The right time to mention that might have been six months ago :P

DJMcMayhem

19:37

@NewMainPosts Would it be appropriate to tag this with ascii-art ?

Pavel

Probably not, no.

AdmBorkBork

19:56

Ow, my brain hurts.

But hey, I golfed 17 bytes, so that's what's important, right?

flawr

Anyone up for a ~~cat~~ hat gif?

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AdmBorkBork

fluffy

Pavel

I +1 your floof

AdmBorkBork

feature-request clamp function for PowerShell.

flawr

@Riker is that you?

Pavel

20:06

@AdmBorkBork What would that do?

AdmBorkBork

clamp(x, min, max) means if x<min, return min, else if x>max, return max, else return x

Poke

i wish gifs in chat acted more like they do in discord

where they only animate on mouse hover

Pavel

I wish TNB chat was discord

Basic Sunset

I can't use Discord at work

flawr

@AdmBorkBork hm that would be quite useful.

AdmBorkBork

20:14

I also want a "{0:B}"-f$a functionality for binary numbers, like we have X for hexadecimal and whatnot. Instead of the ridiculously-lengthy [convert]::ToString($a,2).

I've actually gone into the PowerShell repository a couple times trying to track down how to do a PR to add that.

Nathan Merrill

were prototypes removed in ES6?

Down Christopher

@Geobits how did you become such a famous downvoter?

Mendeleev

Currently programming this in Scratch

TuxCopter

omg why

Pavel

@DownChristopher By downvoting everything and everyone..?

Down Christopher

20:28

@Pavel Yeah but I downvote (not much) but how did he become well known for it

Pavel

Geobits downvotes a lot.

Down Christopher

@TuxCopter It has no American flag so that is why it is bad

Pavel

No it does

Look closely

Mendeleev

@TuxCopter whyyyyy

rip my eyes

Down Christopher

@Pavel where?

Pavel

20:29

Hint: Horizontal alternating red/white lines, block in the top right corner

yesterday, by Thomas Ward

seriously don't abuse the flags

TuxCopter

It's the flag of British America but with the maple leaf of Canada

And a lot more lines

Down Christopher

Yeah

No AMERICAN FLAG FOUND. that is why it is bad

Pavel

> It's the flag of British America
> Yeah
> No AMERICAN FLAG

???

Down Christopher

Yeah at the last thing

Mendeleev

How do I count Scratch bytes in this?

Down Christopher

20:31

More lines

AdmBorkBork

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Q: How to count bytes FAQ

We've got a lot of questions asking how to count the bytes in different situations. This question is here to put them all in one spot. General questions How to count "interactive" answers and flags How to count REPLs How to count multiple files How to count lambdas How to count whitespace How ...

discussion faq code-golf answers scoring

Specifically, the ASCII output of Scratchblocks2

Mendeleev

ugh

I would rather use the suggested count in the OP

Pavel

Not how it works ;)

AdmBorkBork

+15/-3 is pretty close to "consensus"

DJMcMayhem

@KritixiLithos You might appreciate this: A V bug has saved me two bytes

Pavel

20:41

s/bug/feature

Geobits

@DownChristopher Hard work, and having an avatar that wasn't a memey knockoff :P

Down Christopher

@Geobits Subtle hint

DJMcMayhem

Nah, definitely a bug

Geobits

Subtlety is my specialty. I'm surprised you noticed.

Pavel

Nice to see you around by the way.

You kinda disappeared on us a while back

Geobits

20:44

Yeah, that whole "life" thing butted in.

Pavel

Or is this another "Geobits is back!" but then you go away for the next month again.

Geobits

Only time will tell.

Christopher

taada!

Wait

Geobits

Tune in for the next exciting episode.

Pavel

No it worked

Christopher

20:45

Ok good

@Geobits _must... resist... urge... do... downgoat geobits avatar

Geobits

Congratulations! I have no idea what that is because my phone is acting up, but I can tell what it isn't.

Pavel

@Geobits Bad show, I rate 1/5

Christopher

@Geobits My avatar? Another calvin and hobbes

Geobits

Much better :D

Christopher

Who was the @DownChristopher guy?

Poke

20:54

my avatar is a picture i took with a cellphone

those phone cameras are getting better and better

DJMcMayhem

@Christopher Hey, welcome back! I like this avatar/name combo more

Christopher

@DJMcMayhem :P Thanks

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I discovered TNB around the time of the winter bash, I think I asked DjMcMayhem how he got that hat at one point.

Christopher

You joined 2 months before me

TuxCopter

21:06

wtf

Pavel

Does anyone know if there's a way to determine OS with the C# preprocessor?

Riker

21:26

@flawr no proof I say

no proof

Mendeleev

We need Downbits

Riker

why

5

flawr

21:38

@Riker no proof, but a lot of floof

Riker

lol

this is correct

Conor O'Brien

22:08

satisfies me at least :P

Mendeleev

Do you think these people are legit?

ebay.com/usr/dealplanit

Bidding on a few Thinkpads from them

Nick T

22:40

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fəˈnɛtɪk

You can turn any n points into a function of degree n-1

Nick T

True, though not sure if writing a 7th degree polynomial would be the most compact thing in most languages

Downgoat

@ConorO'Brien D: you have surpassed me :P

Conor O'Brien

whoa I have??

Downgoat

I only have 19,034

Nick T

22:48

pleb.

Mendeleev

@NickT I only have ~2100

Nick T

viva la proletariat

Conor O'Brien

that went from roman to communist real quick lol

ASCII-only

@JanDvorak Yeah, I knew about that before naming the language, but you can say the same about a lot of other languages too

Nick T

I forgot the opposite of plebian...wasn't prole(tariat) but opposite of that is bourgeoise...

Patrician?

From "pater"/father?

Conor O'Brien

22:54

yeah, patricians

Mendeleev

afaik yes

ninja'd

Conor O'Brien

it's not ninja'd fwiw--it's extra confirmation

Mendeleev

This sci-fi story is pretty cool

Downgoat

TIL universal clipboard 10/10 most revolutionary thing apple has every made

Conor O'Brien

what does that do?

Downgoat

23:01

e.g.: copy on mac -> paste on ipad

Conor O'Brien

ok that's epic

Nick T

synergy can copy-paste between mac/windows/linux

Wheat Wizard

I really don;t like universal clipboard myself

Nick T

23:17

does Apple get to read everything you copy/paste?

Wheat Wizard

Probably not

undergroundmonorail

hey does anyone want to read my sandboxed challenge and tell me if they think it's good? :3c

i spent a long time writing it to try to make sure it was good and clear

Wheat Wizard

@undergroundmonorail Could you provide a link?

undergroundmonorail

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

D&D 5e HP Calculator code-golf I have trouble remembering everything I have to do when leveling up a D&D character. For whatever reason, one of the things that gives me trouble is figuring out what their new maximum HP value should be. For this challenge, you will write a program or function t...

i didn't want to link it if no one asked because i'd look needy :P

Wheat Wizard

Seems clear. I don't think it is a duplicate.

I can find no fault

undergroundmonorail

23:23

ty

there's a couple places that i want to touch up the wording, not for clarity reasons but just because it reads awkwardly because i used the same word twice in a sentence or whatever

Wheat Wizard

Yeah I had to read one sentence twice

undergroundmonorail

but if i get a couple more eyes on it and it still seems good i'll go ahead and post it

which?

Wheat Wizard

but I can't remember which one

undergroundmonorail

oh :P

Wheat Wizard

I don;t think there was anything wrong with the sentence

undergroundmonorail

23:26

I'm glad I'm giving it this once-over because i did find somewhere i used the exact antonym of the word i wanted

trichoplax

@undergroundmonorail Is there a "floor" missing in the formula under When Levelling Up?

undergroundmonorail

@trichoplax Every hit die has an even number of sides, so max_possible_roll / 2 will always be an integer.

trichoplax

Interesting. So "rounded up" doesn't mean what it does in other contexts?

undergroundmonorail

Well

The average roll on a six-sided die is 3.5

Because you can't roll 0

But 6/2 + 1 is 4, which is 3.5 rounded up

trichoplax

Oh I see. I was being slow. It makes perfect sense now - thanks

undergroundmonorail

23:34

np

trichoplax

I forgot that dice aren't zero indexed...

No that still wouldn't make a difference. Ignore me

undergroundmonorail

d10s are actually often 0-indexed because people often use two of them as a d100, with one as the ones place and the other as the 10s place, and it would be weird to roll a 10 on either of those

so instead, if you roll 00 it just counts as 100

and if you roll 0 on a single d10 it counts as 10

but technically the numbers printed on the physical thing are zero through nine

trichoplax

In that case all looks clear to me (and I have no D&D knowledge)

undergroundmonorail

cool

i'll probably leave it up in the sandbox for a while just in case but

i'm glad it seems pretty good to go

LegionMammal978

That's weird

SIMBAD claims that 2MASS J11143546-2112534 is a zeroth-magnitude star in the visible spectrum

And I've certainly never heard of that star

trichoplax

23:39

@undergroundmonorail Yes more perspectives sounds good (especially as I've just proved myself half asleep...)

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I CAN NEVER REMEMBER HOW MANY WORDS IN DE JA VU

TuxCopter

23:58

@NewSandboxedPosts It's "déjà vu"

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