The Nineteenth Byte

@EriktheOutgolfer Good idea. I'll also get rid of the requirement that the string length will be divisible by chunk length, anything left over at the end will be considered its own chunk.

Erik the Outgolfer

@Pavel Maybe also ban built-in functions for separating into chunks?

ETHproductions

@EriktheOutgolfer I don't think that would go over well, but then again, you never know

Pavel

In some languages that would bump from one byte to two bytes and in others it would mean adding an entire for loop.

Erik the Outgolfer

I feel that otherwise it would otherwise be as easy as ~/-1% in GS otherwise, for example.

Taking input as "abcdefgh" 2 for example.

Basically, 1) split into chunks 2) reverse.

Pavel

5:16 PM

But how can I get onto HNQ if I ban the trivial solutions?

Besides, if you want a challenge, you could always try answering in something harder like brain-flak

Riker

@DJMcMayhem >:U

is there another way than vp then?

@Pavel related? codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/71427/…

Pavel

Related but not a duplicate at all

Riker

definitely

Erik the Outgolfer

Huh? I wouldn't have linked...

Riker

@ETHproductions I read 9 at first

and was confused

@EriktheOutgolfer it's my challenge so I thought of it somewhat fast

but it's related in the splitting bits of strings

not that closely though

Erik the Outgolfer

5:20 PM

Yeah, although splitting in chunks of specific lengths is an entirely different splitting.

Conor O'Brien

@DJMcMayhem o_O which JS knockoff are you using??

Helka Homba

CMC: Guess when NMP will post my new challenge in chat to the nearest minute.

Riker

prolly es5 or something

Helka Homba

I'll say 25 after the hour

Riker

@HelkaHomba is it already posted on main?

Conor O'Brien

5:20 PM

@HelkaHomba 15 minutes after the hour

Riley

@Pavel Brain-Flak 29 bytes: ([]){{}({}<({}<>)>)<>([])}<>

Riker

@ConorO'Brien it's already 21 after >_>

Erik the Outgolfer

@HelkaHomba yes it will

Conor O'Brien

@Riker es5 has filter >_>

Riker

idk

Conor O'Brien

5:21 PM

@Riker oh.

Riker

;p

Helka Homba

@Riker yes

Riker

@HelkaHomba 26 after the hour

New Main Posts

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Q: Turn me 22.5 with a rose

Given a string that is one of the directions on a 16-point compass rose output the two directions that are immediately adjacent to the input direction, in clockwise order. Specifically, you need to handle these (and only these) input/output pairs: Input Output N NNW NNE NNE N NE NE ...

Helka Homba

...

Erik the Outgolfer

5:21 PM

YAY! I WON!

Helka Homba

21 after

Riker

hahahaha

@EriktheOutgolfer no you didn't

you didn't give a time

Helka Homba

^

Riker

"to the nearest minute." != "yes"

@HelkaHomba i guess you won?

o/ @MetaEd

Erik the Outgolfer

Yeah, I assumed it would be "next minute".

MetaEd

5:22 PM

@Riker \o

Riker

you didn't say that tho

@MetaEd what brings you to our lair

MetaEd

I lurk here pretty often.

Helka Homba

@Riker I was thinking the winner had to get the minute exact, but I guess :p

Riker

lol

@MetaEd ah k

tfw you both outgolf and out-get-votes dennis

Erik the Outgolfer

^ LINK?

Riker

5:24 PM

that square polyglot one

i just noticed I hit 31 votes, he has 28

ffs @UpWat really?

Erik the Outgolfer

Oh I upvoted that. Literally though, it even reads "YOU!"

Riker

that's not original

>_<

@EriktheOutgolfer lol

contrary to most 1 byte solutions, that did indeed take effort, so I'm satisfied

Erik the Outgolfer

Like "YOU! Dennis! Not this time ;)"

@Riker Yeah, I agree that we should probably stop copying Downgoat. Copying Downgoat doesn't help in being a diverse community at all >_>

Riker

no it's not that

it's not about the copying as much

Erik the Outgolfer

And as Dennis noted it often appears as Down <???>, and it gets boring...

Riker

5:27 PM

it's about it being hard to differentiate them, and when told to be "original" he just switched to being up

which isn't original at all

Erik the Outgolfer

Downgoat was Upgoat once, so no.

Helka Homba

@EriktheOutgolfer I keep thinking you are NMP talking

Erik the Outgolfer

My avatar huh? Yeah I have chosen that about a year ago.

Riker

nmp has had it for a lot longer ;P

Erik the Outgolfer

But it isn't exactly the same.

Mine is high-quality, contrary to NMP's.

Riker

5:30 PM

yours is a clone of the site favicon

DJMcMayhem

@ConorO'Brien QML (qt markup language)

Riker

> QML (Qt Meta Language or Qt Modeling Language) is a user interface markup language. It is a JSON-like declarative language for designing user interface–centric applications. Inline JavaScript code handles imperative aspects.

ah, the inline JS isn't full JS?

DJMcMayhem

@Riker uhhhhh ph"_x?

Riker

>:U

that's a lot longer

DJMcMayhem

@Riker unfortunately not

Riker

5:34 PM

eh I'll work on it later

DJMcMayhem

@Riker unfortunately yeah

Conor O'Brien

5:45 PM

@DJMcMayhem you could always roll your own JS filter

does it have es6 features?

Conor O'Brien

5:56 PM

@betseg you program in C right?

betseg

yes?

Conor O'Brien

do you have any suggestions for a lightweight hash/dictionary library?

betseg

i dont even know if someone actually made a library

Conor O'Brien

hm, ok

betseg

php used to use strlen for hashing. seeing php as one of the most used projects, i'd say give it a try :P

Conor O'Brien

6:02 PM

wait what that seems like such a bad idea

betseg

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

php

AdmBorkBork

"shrug, php" seems about right for my experience with it

UpWat

@Riker Why not? It's easily differentiatable from @Downgoat and I spent a bit of time making it

Also, please check out inventory.dk0.us

It's hosted on Heroku now

betseg

@UpWat what's this

UpWat

@betseg Part of a system to manage items in a school's tech lab.

I'm completely rewriting it, this is alpha 0.0.1 of the rewrite

Riker

6:11 PM

16

UpWat

@Riker what's with the cat in the hat hat on Downgoat?

Riker

that's his current avatar

lol thanks for stars

@UpWat who are you?

oh

wat/dmitry/down wat

6:12 PM

@JanDvorak Click my profile picture

Riker

/tomato

/mendeleev/alt f-4

UpWat

It's all in my chat profile description, just click the profile picture

Jan Dvorak

... oh. The guy who keeps changing his identity.

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Riker

@UpWat basically: you were asked to change your profile picture, as it was both too similar and part of a more annoying trend of copying people's avatars

and people said to be 'original'

aka don't copy somebody's avatar

UpWat

No one said that

Riker

6:13 PM

or even base it off theirs extensively

2 days ago, by mbomb007

@DownWat There's only room for one Downgoat. If you're going to change your name, just be original about it. It's not cool to copy someone else. Especially if you're even copying their avatar style.

UpWat

I was just told that it had to be easily distinguishable

Riker

> 15 stars

UpWat

Oh, that. one sec

Riker

> just be original about it

UpWat

also, why didn't @DownChristopher get the same warnings?

Riker

6:14 PM

he's not that anymore I thouht

he also hasn't been in chat very much since he changed his name/the day after that

Jan Dvorak

Because it was less stale back then?

Riker

true

it was always as irritating but it wasn't as stale

but I think it's mostly because he hasn't been in chat

AdmBorkBork

brb, changing name to DownRiker

UpWat

@Downgoat please clarify

Jan Dvorak

You want a clear rule? You'll get a clear rule. Use your real name, please.

AdmBorkBork

6:16 PM

Oh, oh, wait ... Thomas Riker

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UpWat

@JanDvorak That was about something completely different. He was asking a vague question about nginx reverse proxying

I was asking him to clarify that

Jan Dvorak

... oh?

UpWat

:(

Click the reply arrow.

Riker

@AdmBorkBork I approve of this /s

Jan Dvorak

Oh.

Riker

6:17 PM

have a star though that made me lol

AdmBorkBork

Yay, stars. My reason for trudging through my daily torment of existence.

Riker

@JanDvorak brb changing name to lt william riker of the USS enterprise

@AdmBorkBork r/2meirl4meirl

that also sounds like something from smbc

AdmBorkBork

And that subreddit sounds like someone had a mouth full of cereal and was trying to use speech-to-text

Dennis

@JanDvorak I wouldn't do that, personally. I value my privacy.

Riker

@AdmBorkBork lol

UpWat

6:19 PM

Name poll

Riker

@AdmBorkBork :( I should've done that for april fools

oh well

I'll try next year

UpWat

@Dennis This. I had my real name as my username at one point, things got kinda creepy with lots of doxxing/revealing of personal information

Riker

@UpWat well no dur when you have a quite uncommon name

and when you're not that private in general

UpWat

@Riker That was in 6th grade!! I didn't know much about the internet then.

Riker

then don't go on the freaking internet

UpWat

6:21 PM

ugh brb changing that profile to hidden

Riker

SE has a 13 year old limit for a reason

Conor O'Brien

I'd use my real name but then people would get confused

UpWat

@Riker come on my decisions in 6th grade should not affect my current life to that extent

Riker

too bad

with the internet, everything is forever

UpWat

That's true. however, I can hide the info a little.

Riker

6:22 PM

well then do that

AdmBorkBork

@ConorO'Brien Wait, that's not your real name?

TIL

Riker

@AdmBorkBork the world shall never know...

Conor O'Brien

it may or may not be

Riker

i think it's actually conan o'brien

UpWat

Also, even right now if you google my name, all you get is some other Dmitry Kudriavtsev's, my Stack Exchange Profiles, and my Twitter account

AdmBorkBork

6:23 PM

Yeah, I'll just go door-to-door to each of the 200,000+ people in the world with that name. knock, knock // door opens // "Do I know you from the Internet?" // facepunch

UpWat

Not the huge blurb of middle school me that was there before

Riker

@AdmBorkBork no, you need to verbally say "picard facepalm dot gee eye eff"

DJMcMayhem

@ConorO'Brien I have no idea, but I don't think so

Jan Dvorak

"gee eye eff", really? It's either a gif or a jif, not a gee eye eff.

Conor O'Brien

@DJMcMayhem if let k = 3; doesn't work it isn't es6

Riker

6:26 PM

@JanDvorak GEE EYE EFF! GEE EYE EFF! GEE EYE EFF!

UpWat

I spell out the name btrfs because I have no freaking idea of how to pronounce it

Jan Dvorak

Me, I'd say jif.

Riker

that's what I say

but for true internet_irl status you need to say GEE EYE EFF

Jan Dvorak

I may allow gee eye eff if I disallow gif.

AdmBorkBork

@UpWat b'troofs

Stewie Griffin

6:27 PM

I want to post this one, but I need a little feedback first. Is it OK to let people time their solutions themselves?

UpWat

If you want me to change back my username, please vote on my name poll. strawpoll.me/12746442

Riker

@UpWat .... the file system?

UpWat

@Riker yes

Riker

@StewieGriffin I don't think so

Jan Dvorak

@UpWat isn't that poll a placebo?

Riker

6:27 PM

mainly because people have different computers

it's not going to stay the same

Dennis

@StewieGriffin No, that's not objective. Apart from being unverifiable, it's somewhat of a fastest computer contest.

Riker

somebody can have a really slow submission that runs really fast on their beast computer

UpWat

@StewieGriffin People have very different computers. You would have one guy with a 1800X or 7700K and another with a Pentium 3

@JanDvorak please clarify

Stewie Griffin

What I thought too, but I can't test it myself... :/

AdmBorkBork

@Dennis Well, but the wall time isn't the main point of the challenge

betseg

6:28 PM

@Riker P2W challenge confirmed

UpWat

@StewieGriffin Get a $5/mo Droplet from DigitalOcean and test it there. They're virtualized Linux servers.

Jan Dvorak

@UpWat will the poll results affect what name you change your username to?

UpWat

@JanDvorak Yes.

Riker

@betseg yea

@UpWat ... why?

Jan Dvorak

Correction. Will the name you change your name to be the top voted one in this poll?

UpWat

6:29 PM

> can't test myself

Dennis

Looks like we need Time It Online.

Stewie Griffin

@Dennis hehe :)

UpWat

@JanDvorak Yes.

Riker

@UpWat I assume because he doesn't have the software

and a clean linux server won't either

UpWat

apt install

AdmBorkBork

6:30 PM

If the winning metric is number of reversals, then the wall time is just to put an upper bound on submissions.

Riker

@StewieGriffin why can't you install it?

@StewieGriffin well, if you restrict submissions to languages on TIO, that would work

Stewie Griffin

@AdmBorkBork is right though, it's not fastest code... But people might try to optimize it so that it runs in approx a minute.

AdmBorkBork

Well, so make it like 20 minutes

Even a 486 should be able to run some Python code in 20 minutes

I'm pretty sure your rationale behind the time limit is to prevent an all-and-out brute force style

UpWat

So by majority, I'm going with Alt-F4.

Any objections?

Stewie Griffin

@AdmBorkBork Yes, it's possible to brute force it, and that ruins the winning-criterion.

Dennis

6:33 PM

@UpWat Majority? That's tied with your real name.

Stewie Griffin

@Riker I lack the skills to run it, and my computer is rubbish.

Riker

ah, okay

@StewieGriffin if you want, I'd be happy to test anything I could for you

UpWat

@Dennis When I loaded the page my name only had 1 vote. I am also retracting the poll entry for my real name. for privacy reasons.

Riker

if you don't end up using a fastest-algorithm instead

just noting: those are cool colors on the poll results

AdmBorkBork

I don't see a problem with letting people verify their own submissions run under a minute.

Riker

6:34 PM

I've never seen pink or purple

UpWat

Everyone who voted for my real name, please clear the strawpoll cookie and vote for something else

Stewie Griffin

@Riker That would be great! :)

Riker

@UpWat listen: at this point, just pick a name and keep it

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AdmBorkBork

Or two, or five, or whatever.

Riker

it doesn't really matter that much as long as it's not a clone of somebody elses

okay?

UpWat

6:35 PM

@Riker That's what I'm trying to do. (Sorry capslock)

Dennis

@UpWat So much for democracy.

Riker

don't ask people for opinions IMO

@AdmBorkBork oh, it's under a minute? I thought it was full fastest-code, not jst a limit

UpWat

all right, I've chosen a name. omg why does this have to be a big deal

AdmBorkBork

@Riker The wall time limit is just to put an upper bound on the submissions. The actual scoring is number of reversals.

Stewie Griffin

@AdmBorkBork I too think it should be OK, maybe I'd just go for it, it's easiest :)

AdmBorkBork

6:36 PM

I mean, we already allow people to say "Well, it works on my machine / on my compiler / on my environment" etc.

Dennis

@Riker TIO is a very bad choice for timing submissions. It's currently using three different arena servers (each of which is slightly faster or slower than the others, and you never know if your submission is going to be the only one running at this point.

Hence the need for Time It Online, where all submissions would run on the same server, one after the other, never in parallel.

AdmBorkBork

Like those esoteric-machine-from-the-80s-assembly programs. Pretty sure practically no one but the author can verify if it works, but those are still allowed.

UpWat

@Dennis Please eleven my chat profile.

Stewie Griffin

Do you (not directed at anyone in particular) think 100 numbers are too few, too many? And is one minute an appropriate limit?

Conor O'Brien

6:51 PM

for what?

user165474

@UpWat Really...? Up Wat now? :P

Riker

@Dennis ah ok

UpWat