The Nineteenth Byte

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

15:02

If I made an american burger, what's a good idea to steal from german cuisine?

{mayonnaise olives tomato lettuce cheese bacon pickles}

Martin Ender

@trichoplax ah damn, I now realise that was a missed opportunity.

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

15:35

So many people are joining, but not talking.

time.is seems like a very convenient time converter, useful for the globalness of TNB.

It's the afternoon for germans.

Afternoon for most of europe, late (10-ish) morning for the americas.

Flp.Tkc

yep, 3:40 here in UK

(pm)

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

Q: Do britons have starbucks for tea? Not necessarily a chain.

my ntp server is apparently 3.6 seconds ahead

Flp.Tkc

meh, starbucks isn't that nice. normally I just make my own tea

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Builder's_tea <-- the good stuff

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

Apparently I touched my settings a little bit (didn't change them), and now my clock is within 0.4 seconds accurate.

0.2 behind now... nvm it's within the margin of error

El'endia Starman

Probably due to latency.

Flp.Tkc

15:45

> +0.045 seconds (±0.154 seconds).

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@El'endiaStarman time.is calculates the accuracy

> Your time is exact!

After just poking the settings a bit, it autosynced.

Flp.Tkc

according to that the sun is going down in 8 minutes here

well, I can't see the sun, just grey clouds

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

The sun never sets on the british empire... /s

Q: How do they teach the American Revolutionary war in history class? In ours it's like "EVIL BRITISH, TAXES TAXES TAXES"

Flp.Tkc

I took 20th century history, so I honestly have no idea

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

So they didn't teach how America got it's independence?

Also they say "independence from England", making scotland, wales, and northern ireland very sad.

Flp.Tkc

15:50

not really. although we did do the civil war, and America in the 20th century

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

What. Mind blown.

Flp.Tkc

obviously we looked at the declaration of independence etc, because it's relevant to politics all the time, but there was no in-depth study about the revolutionary war itself

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Flp.Tkc History lesson: British put taxes on us (like taxing tea and letting soldiers stay in your house even though they had day jobs and pay from mother britannia) to pay for the french-and-indian war.

Lembik

does anyone have a feeling for how much slower multiplying two complex numbers should be than multiplying two floats?

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

We spent like a half-semester talking about it, then another semester about before/after.

Flp.Tkc

15:53

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC I know about it, I'm just saying they don't teach it in British schools

Martin Ender

@Lembik much. I remember I was able to speed up some numerical code by a factor of 5 or so, just by extracting the multiplication of a (complex) common factor from a loop, so that there was only a complex*real multiplication left inside the loop.

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

Oh. Tell theresa may!

Lembik

@MartinEnder Well that's surprising!

Martin Ender

why?

a float multiplication is a single processor instruction

Lembik

@MartinEnder Because on paper you seem to need 3 mults two multiply two floats

plus 2 additions

Martin Ender

15:55

@Lembik best way to tell is to write a simple C script with real*real, real*complex and complex*complex, run it through valgrind --tool=callgrind and count the cycles for each

Flp.Tkc

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC oh yes, the Prime Minister that nobody elected.

Lembik

@MartinEnder that would be good you are right

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

@Flp.Tkc We didn't elect donald trump, the electoral college did; y'all didn't elect theresa may, parliament did.

TuxCopter

> C script

2

u wot

Lembik

@MartinEnder stackoverflow.com/a/25728515/2179021

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

15:57

@Flp.Tkc Was going to have a thought but my memory leaked.

Flp.Tkc

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC The sun still hasn't set. That timing website is wrong!

DJMcMayhem

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC what-if.xkcd.com/48

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PhiNotPi

who all might be interested in participating in the "ASCII Collab Club" project this month (over winter break)?

DJMcMayhem

What is it?

Flp.Tkc

@PhiNotPi I just popped into the room and it looks interesting. If you're doing more Python projects (like the hangman one), I'd be interested

PhiNotPi

16:03

It's where a bunch of users get together to make some sort of game (typically). In past years we've made chess and checkers programs/AIs.

We are still in the concept phase for this year, so we need to figure out who's interested in participating and what people want to do for the project.

Flp.Tkc

alright. I'll keep an eye on the room

Dennis

@TuxCopter The Tiny C Compiler allows you to write C scripts, with shebang and everything

Lembik

@Dennis Hi.. Another simple question. Did you implement Glynn or Ryser?

I am guessing Glynn

Dennis

(I thought I replied to you yesterday.) I don't remember the name, but it's the slower one of the two.

Lembik

@Dennis oh sorry I must have missed the reply. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computing_the_permanent#Ryser_formula this one?

So not the one where you divide by 2^(m-1) at the end?

Dennis

16:17

@Lembik No, not that one. I was going to implement it for even dimensions, until I saw the C++ answer had done the same. At some point, I just gave up.

Martin Ender

@Lembik I'd imagine that also doing 3 additions, 2 subtractions and requiring several temporary pieces of float data will be a bit more expensive than 3 multiplication processor instructions, but I have no intuition by how much

Lembik

@Dennis why might it be better for even dimensions? I haven't understood that yet

Dennis

@MartinEnder Depends on the CPU. The latest Intel processors do 64-bit multiplications in one cycle (latency of three cycles).

@Lembik It's better for all dimensions. However, all multiplicands in odd dimensions will be odd, meaning that gcc's 128-bit type only gets you so far. When the dimension is even, the multiplicands are all even, so you can divide by 2 in each step.

Lembik

@Dennis I still haven't fully understood your code. What is happening here permanent % BILLION, permanent /= BILLION; ? I mean, what part of the formula does this correspond to?

@Dennis aha!

Dennis

@Lembik That's not related to the formula. There's no built-in way to print 128-bit integers (printf only works up to 64 bits), so I have to do a little base conversion.

Lembik

16:24

@Dennis oh ok that's really helpful. In case you were wondering, I am trying to write fast code to compute the permanent for floats. I was hoping to leverage your genius :)

but my coding skills are nowhere near yours

Dennis

When it comes to floats, they might very well be. I avoid them like the plague.

Lembik

@Dennis as far as I can tell it will mostly just involve removing parts of your code

that were specialised to ints

I assume there is nothing special you can add

and you may be pleased to hear that Intel have acknowledged a bug in their compiler based on your code :)

DJMcMayhem

7

Woot woot! \o/

Dennis

@Lembik Yeah, much of the code deals with optimizing for large integers, such as the part that does a bunch of 64-bit multiplications first to avoid the costly 128-bit multiplications.

@Lembik Wait, seriously? :D

Lembik

Yep

turns out openmp can't handle your 128 bit int type

well not properly

Dennis

16:30

@DJMcMayhem Congrats! Remember: With great badges come great hammering privileges.

Lembik

the fix is to replace your pragma line with

Dennis

@Lembik I'm surprised it supports it at all. I though __int128 was a GNU extension.

Lembik

#pragma omp declare reduction(add128: int128_t: omp_out = omp_out + omp_in) initializer(omp_priv = 0)
[...]
#pragma omp parallel for reduction(add128:permanent) num_threads(NUM_THREADS)

DJMcMayhem

> When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

I'm gonna go close a bunch of challenges now!

Lembik

@Dennis it works fine without openmp

DJMcMayhem

16:31

(Kidding obviously)

quartata

@MayhemgoatDJ A plugin is leaking memory

That would also explain the watchdog crash

Wait, did I ping the right person?

Anyways disable all the SourceMod plugins and re-enable them one by one

There's no way it's TF2Goat :P

Lembik

ok so code-golf challenge idea. Consider a matrix where each column describes a discrete probability distribution. That is each column is made from floats in the range 0..1 which sum to 1

MayhemgoatDJ

@quartata uh huh totally

Lembik

the challenge is sample one row per column according to the respective discrete probability distribution

is it easy in Jelly ? :)

DJMcMayhem

@quartata Yes you did, lol

quartata

16:33

@ConorO'Brien mkHUD

DJMcMayhem

I'm gonna have to change my name pretty soon here to keep up my end of the bargain. :P

quartata

@MayhemgoatDJ No, really. It's pretty damn unlikely.

My money is on TF2Items

Kritixi Lithos

Wait, why is there no badge for polyglot?

quartata

New update probably caused problems

MayhemgoatDJ

@quartata AFAIK TF2Items isn't even autoloaded?

DJMcMayhem

16:37

Whoops

MayhemgoatDJ

ಠ_ಠ

@mod can you fix this problem for us :3

DJMcMayhem

I can change it on a different site?

MayhemgoatDJ

:/ I guess

PhiNotPi

You can change which site is associated with your chat profile, to change your chat name.

DJMcMayhem

Yeah, I know

Kritixi Lithos

16:38

@DJMcMayhem Can you add an explanation to your V answer?

Dennis

@MayhemgoatDJ status-declined There's a reason these things come with limits.

DJMcGoathem

@MayhemgoatDJ There. Better?

Oh, it didn't update my avatar

MayhemgoatDJ

:D 10/10

Dennis

MayhemgoatDJ. DJMcGoathem. Sighs.

Luis Mendo

@DJMcGoathem Congrats!

BTW what's the quote in your profile?

"We did not invent The Algorithm. The algorithm is banned in 47 countries..."

@Dennis Same here :-)

MayhemgoatDJ

16:41

@DJMcGoathem \o/ \o/ \o/ congrats, that is awesome achievement!

DJMcGoathem

@LuisMendo Oh, haha it's from xkcd

@KritixiLithos Yeah, sure. I'll go do it

Luis Mendo

Hehe. I like the depiction of Primer's plot. I couldn't understand a thing when I watched it

@DJMcGoathem @MayhemgoatDJ At least don't change your avatars

MayhemgoatDJ

I just added Dr Seuss hat

DJMcGoathem

I did, but it hasn't caught on yet

Oh, there it is

Dennis

A cat on top of a goat? It has been like that for a few minutes.

MayhemgoatDJ

16:44

:O this is best avatar you have had so far

Dennis

Bah, the real cat in a hat was way cuter.

DJMcGoathem

Nah, I like the cat one more.

Luis Mendo

^^

Anything with cats is cuter

MayhemgoatDJ

:(

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

> On June 1, 2006, YouTube was taken down temporarily for maintenance. The phrase "ALL YOUR VIDEO ARE BELONG TO US" appeared below the YouTube logo as a placeholder while the site was down. Some users believed the site had been hacked, leading YouTube to add the message "No, we haven't be [sic] hacked. Get a sense of humor."[9]

Luis Mendo

16:46

@MayhemgoatDJ Hm ok, cute too :-)

DJMcGoathem

@KritixiLithos Would you be interested in a "Tips for golfing in V" question? A lot of the vim tips apply also, but there are some V specific tips that could be really useful

Kritixi Lithos

All right, now that I set up V :)

TuxCopter

2

xD

DJMcGoathem

@KritixiLithos Added an explanation now. :)

TuxCopter

@DJMcGoathem lel

Gabriel Benamy

17:00

I had to get rid of my ugly-ass ternary operation

I'm so sad

Kritixi Lithos

@DJMcGoathem Wow, the regex is so much shorter in V

DJMcGoathem

Yeah, I love it.

And it's not even that complicated

Kritixi Lithos

I was thinking about doing the terminal wave using regex, turns out it might not be such a bad idea

TuxCopter

Big Ben

@big_ben_clock, Up a tower.

The first, established November 2009 & entirely unofficial. Copyright details here: http://t.co/q8UCMopfd5, but still apparently imitated everywhere.

60.4k tweets, 485k followers, following 0 users

20/20

DJMcGoathem

Would d<C-v>5j$p be shorter?

I know exactly how to do the animating part, I just don't know how to make the initial wave

Kritixi Lithos

17:07

But it has to go the opposite direction

DJMcGoathem

Oh. Then $d<C-v>5j0P

Kritixi Lithos

And, of course, the time delay, so :sl100m

DJMcGoathem

17:22

@KritixiLithos I've updated the V wiki. I added insert mode and motions

TimmyD

@TuxCopter Hah! That's amazing. Also, fun fact: "Big Ben" is the bell, not the clock or tower (though they are also referred to as "Big Ben" in popular nomenclature).

Dennis

@TimmyD Had the hardest time figuring out why sort sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. Turns out that's by design; Microsoft removed all conflicting aliases from "PowerShell for every system", so you're actually invoking Linux's sort.

DJMcGoathem

Wow

Kritixi Lithos

@DJMcGoathem Nice

DJMcGoathem

Let me know if everything makes sense

TimmyD

17:28

@Dennis Oh, that's a lovely feature. :-/

Kritixi Lithos

Everything makes sense

:)

Dennis

I'm thinking about creating a separate interpreter that restores all aliases, for full "Powershell for Windows" compatibility.

Would you mind running Get-Alias in the "real deal"?

DJMcGoathem

Sweet, glad to hear it

BlueEyedBeast

CommandType Name Version Source
----------- ---- ------- ------
Alias % -> ForEach-Object
Alias ? -> Where-Object
Alias ac -> Add-Content
Alias asnp -> Add-PSSnapin
Alias cat -> Get-Content
Alias cd -> Set-Location
Alias CFS -> ConvertFrom-String 3.1.0.0 Microsoft.PowerShell.Utility
Alias chdir -> Set-Location

Dennis

@BlueEyedBeast Thanks! Are those all standard aliases? Just asking because I read somewhere there were 155.

BlueEyedBeast

17:35

@Dennis There might be some nonstandard ones in there as I've got MinGW

I'm not sure if that changes it though

TimmyD

Running (gal).count on my machine (Win8.1, ISE v4) shows 150

Dennis

10/10 very consistent

Would depend on the version, I guess.

MayhemgoatDJ

Golfing help request: I'm trying to golf [^a-z\d-], [\W_] won't work though because I need to exclude -. Is this possible?

BlueEyedBeast

Oh - changing name back to muddyfish

DJMcGoathem

What lang?

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

17:38

gooood

BlueEyedBeast

no - may change in 2 hours

Kritixi Lithos

@MayhemgoatDJ You also have to fix the -g^ot- testcase

TimmyD

@Dennis Yeah. v1 to v2 was the biggest change -- v1 is practically unusable, and why I preface most of my answers with "v2+" ... v3 added some new commands and aliases, but not as big of a jump. Same with v4. I don't think v5 added any new aliases, but I could be wrong.

MayhemgoatDJ

@DJMcGoathem Retina

ohh

oops

Dennis

@TimmyD And the version I have is supposed to be 6.

Kritixi Lithos

17:40

@DJMcGoathem Is there a shorter way of doing: Ó \*\*/**** ?

MayhemgoatDJ

btw, does retina have an alias for a-z

TimmyD

@Dennis Yeah, that's on their alpha release branch. I've never used it. v5.1.something.something.something.something is the latest stable. I would imagine that the Linux branch is considered alpha or beta, so that would make sense.

Kritixi Lithos

@MayhemgoatDJ a-mn-z?

:P

MayhemgoatDJ

@KritixiLithos fixed

Kritixi Lithos

You have to update the TIO link, but other than that, all is fine :)

Luis Mendo

17:46

@DJMcGoathem Outgolfed ya :-P

Dennis

@TimmyD Yeah, v6 was the first open-sourced version.

ais523

@Sp3000: what's the blank line in the polyglot for? I found a promising language to add but it doesn't like blank lines

in other news, I have a rules question: say you release a language via putting an interpreter online, then after that someone posts a problem to the sandbox that that language would be good at, then you realise that you want to make changes to the language but they don't affect the problem

if you change the language, how can you prove that you didn't make changes to help with the problem? nobody can tell that you didn't update the interpreter

(the spec's also online on Esolang, so you could see when the spec was edited…)

MayhemgoatDJ

brb writing plugin which auto-generate TIO permalink for your answer

TimmyD

@DJMcGoathem Saw the footnote regarding placing flags on beaches. Expected Eddie Izzard. Clicked link. Was not disappointed. 10/10

Martin Ender

@ais523 without looking, I'm guessing it's for Retina

ais523

17:52

that seems less likely after the Retina robustness changes, but it's possible

Martin Ender

@ais523 good faith?

@ais523 you definitely can't remove the line without breaking Retina, but it doesn't need to be empty

Luis Mendo

how can you prove How is good faith a prove? :-)

ais523

ooh, I have another problem

DJMcGoathem

@KritixiLithos Well, you can use <M-*> so that you don't need to escape the asterisk, but other than that I don't think you can do anything shorter

ais523

I've found another good language to use, but the released interpreter online contains a typo

it's obvious what the typo is, though, and it's trivially fixable

does that count as having an existing interpreter?

Martin Ender

17:55

@LuisMendo the answer is you can't, because that's not even a well-defined question

hence good faith

Kritixi Lithos

@DJMcGoathem I can't make the **** shorter?

MayhemgoatDJ

@MartinEnder I did something like it once for cheddar so I don't think the parsing sould be too complicated but adding something like \l for lowercase alphabet and \L for uppercase alphabet would be super-cool feature (for Retina)

Martin Ender

@MayhemgoatDJ the problem is that it would require parsing the regex at all, which I'm putting off for as long as possible

DJMcGoathem

@KritixiLithos Not that I'm aware of

Martin Ender

well at least I'd have to tokenise it

but yeah

Luis Mendo

17:58

@MartinEnder I know. I was just being nitpicking :-P

DJMcGoathem

@LuisMendo Not cool man, not cool... :P

Now I'm gonna obsess over it

Luis Mendo

:-P :-P

@MayhemgoatDJ I like vihan.org's dark mode better :-)

I didn't know you had so many languages. Does it use TIO under the hood?

MayhemgoatDJ

@MartinEnder ((?:^|[^\\])(?:\\.)*)\\l -> $1[A-Z] seems to work pretty good :P (though it doesn't exactly work in character groups

@LuisMendo yup, they are merely different front-ends, but both use the same backend (TIO's)

Fatalize

@MayhemgoatDJ is that Downgoat or the real DJ?

TuxCopter

It's DJDowngoat

Luis Mendo

18:06

1 hour ago, by Dennis

MayhemgoatDJ. DJMcGoathem. Sighs.

Dennis

Feature request: Stop messing with your user names.

10

Luis Mendo

^

TuxCopter

brb messing with my username

flawr

Feature request: Remove all goats from TNB.

3

TuxCopter

ಠ_ಠ

2

Dennis

18:06

@TuxCopter Too late. You did that already.

TuxCopter

right

Luis Mendo

Hm I did too

But at least it was recognizable (an anagram)

MayhemgoatDJ

@Dennis It was DJs idea not mine :|

DJMcMayhem

Sorry. It was less funny than I thought it would be

MayhemgoatDJ

@flawr :( -1 for racism

Dennis

18:08

Hey, you're back!

Martin Ender

@MayhemgoatDJ yeah sorry, that's not gonna do ;)

MayhemgoatDJ

@Dennis okay, I don't think I can change my username back though, so can you?

Dennis

You actually changed it on main? o_O

MayhemgoatDJ

I realize now that that was stupid idea >_>

Kritixi Lithos

Whaddaya know, goats are goats :P

TimmyD

18:09

@Dennis Oh c'mon, it'd be funny if you and I swapped avatars and names. People would think that this new PowerShell TIO thing has gone to your head, and that I somehow got really good at Jelly. :D

3

Luis Mendo

:-D

Dennis

@Downgoat Eleven'd.

Downgoat

@Dennis thank you for fix :)

Kritixi Lithos

^^^^ star if you agree

TuxCopter

Wait, mods can even eleven names?

flawr

18:11

@Downgoat Do you still think that spamming the word goat in every message is funny? By now it is really nothing but anoying.

Downgoat

@flawr What???

Luis Mendo

What's the origin of the eleven term for mod intervention? (If that's what it means)

Dennis

@TuxCopter Of course. What if you change it to something offensive? Deletion seems harsh.

Downgoat

You guys have been saying goat more than me???

seriously?

TuxCopter

@LuisMendo !!!*11*!!!!!!11!!1111!!!!

I think

Dennis

18:11

@LuisMendo Mod abuse!!!11!!

Nathan Merrill

hey, I'm doing this for the first time: how do I connect my internetbs domain to a digital ocean droplet?

DJMcMayhem

@LuisMendo Your turn:

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A: URL-Friendly Titles

V, 41, 40, 37, 36 bytes VuÍ[ .,\/]/- Í0-9a-z] Í-«/- Í^- Í-$ Try it online! or Check all test cases at once! As usual, here this contains a bunch of unprintable and non-ASCII characters, so here is a hexdump: 0000000: 5675 cd5b 202e 2c5c 2f5d 2f2d 0acd 8430 Vu.[ .,\/]/-...0 0000010: 2d39 61...

Downgoat

We make a bad joke and now it's all like "Hey you used to do that thing. You're annoying, can we kick you from TNB"

Luis Mendo

Hm thanks for the "explanations" @Dennis @TuxCopter :-P

@DJMcMayhem Awwww

Downgoat

I mean for gods sake I haven't even said the word "goat" in the past page of the transcript before you mentioned it

Kritixi Lithos

18:13

s/gods/goats

TuxCopter

for goats sake stop goat puns

DJMcMayhem

I feel like we need a change of topic. CMC: Given a number, if it's positive print this ASCII art upvote, and if it's negative (or you're geobits) print this ASCII art downvote:

Downvote:
______
\    /
 \  /
  \/

Upvote:

  /\
 /  \
/    \
------

H Walters

Don't pay attention to them @Downgoat... they're just goating you

TuxCopter

@DJMcMayhem Unfair advantage for Geobits

-1

Downgoat

@DJMcMayhem Wait, how do I check if I'm Geobits ._. (is it input?)

DJMcMayhem

18:15

Addendum: If you're geobits, you can assume the input will always be negative. :P

TuxCopter

Geobits still has an unfair advantage

Downgoat

Brb, changing name to "Geobits" :P

Luis Mendo

@DJMcMayhem You should make that an actual challenge (less the Geobits part)

TuxCopter

-2

DJMcMayhem

@LuisMendo OK, but I'm gonna add a circle around it

TuxCopter

18:16

@LuisMendo Duplicate of the 9000 trivial kolmogorov-complexity challenges we already have

Downgoat

:O I'm winning challenge. I'll savor this moment until someone posts Jelly answer :P

Luis Mendo

@TuxCopter Hm yes it would be similar to others

DJMcMayhem

How the heck do you make an ASCII art circle?

TuxCopter

magic

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Q: What changes can be made to an existing interpreter before it counts as postdating the challenge?

I've been considering answering a question in Super Stack!, specifically via use of this interpreter. However, the interpreter fails to compile, because there are two mistakes in it: it's incorrectly escaped (the '' in the interpreter source code is interpreted as italics in the markup dialect ...

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Downgoat

18:19

@DJMcMayhem simple: ▯

crap that's unicode nvm

TuxCopter

@Downgoat ◌ FTFY

Pavel

Draw a goat in the fewest bytes

No accessing the internet

TuxCopter

FOG, 1 byte: g

Pavel

Use Mathematica's ImageIdentify to objectively determine wether something is a goat or not

TuxCopter

gib trophy now

ErikGolferエリックゴルファー

18:22

@Pavel That is a standard loophole you know ;)

@TuxCopter [after 12 minutes] accepted!

Pavel

Wha't a standard loophole?

TuxCopter

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Q: Loopholes that are forbidden by default

I've been thinking for a while that this would be useful, and some recent discussions have strengthened that belief. There are a number of standard loopholes which experienced question-setters seek to explicitly close. However, inexperienced question-setters may unintentionally leave them open, ...

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It's "What's a standard loophole?" too

Downgoat

@TuxCopter This is second challenge that built-in has been used in :D

ErikGolferエリックゴルファー

@Downgoat Lol how were you able to revert your username back??? Don't you need to wait for thirty days???

TuxCopter

Unrelated but I found this neat game today

@ErikGolferエリックゴルファー Mod eleven

ErikGolferエリックゴルファー

18:27

Wait, did he actually request a mod to change his name back? Or Dennis just did it? I have never 11'd my name before lol

Downgoat

I've probably already asked this but have we come to consensus if the lanugage fetching from internet" counts as loophole? AFAIK we allow it because of mathematica, but this contradicts with the loophole

TuxCopter

Dennis did it

Downgoat

@ErikGolferエリックゴルファー I asked dennis to ~~change~~ eleven back

TuxCopter

> lanugage

Downgoat

inb4 someone rants about minor typo

DJMcMayhem

18:28

CMP: What's a good Christmas gift for an artist/writer?

H Walters

Hmmm... apparently my goat is a floppy disk

Downgoat

@DJMcMayhem writer meaning someone who physically writes (or just author)?

DJMcMayhem

What's the difference?

Downgoat

I mean you can get one of those fancy weighted pencil kits, but if you like type then it's not super-helpful :P

DJMcMayhem

Oh. Both probably

Pavel

18:31

So should I go post on the sandbox, or what?

Downgoat

@Pavel Regarding the goat challenge? In my opinion it's rather broad. Primarily since you haven't objectively defined "goat". Can I call a solid black image a "goat"? Additionally you'll need to specify whether output should be like ASCII art, or like a picture, etc.

Mega Man

Hello :)

Pavel

It's a goat if mathematics says it's a goat

Kritixi Lithos

print("goat")

Mega Man

There's one sheep it Scotland which is at least black on one side XD#

in

Pavel

18:35

See, that won't pass image identify @KritixiLithos.

Downgoat

@Pavel Mathematica requires a license, what if I don't have mathematica?

Mega Man

General question: Is there anyway to PM someone on SE?

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat is it faster to do /[A-Za-z0-9]/.test(e) than to do "ABCD...XYZabc...xyz012...789".indexOf(e) >= 0?

Pavel

Image identify has a re website dedicated to it

Mega Man

@Downgoat: Go buy a Raspi, it's cheaper then Mathematica :-)

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Pavel

18:36

imageidentify.com

Kritixi Lithos

@Pavel It might be a goat in an alternative universe

Downgoat

@ConorO'Brien probably, .test is probably better optimized for such a task. I can run a perf though

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat please do, though I have no idea what that is

H Walters

The print word "goat" is a cross of Lorraine, as is apparently every other black-and-white pixelized thing I've tried greater than tiny sizes (those are floppy disks)

Pavel

I don't care if you think it's a goat,y oh just gave to make mathematics think is ah past

On phone

Autocorrect

DJMcMayhem

18:38

@MegaMan does raspi come with Mathematica?

Downgoat

@ConorO'Brien regex is consistently faster (by a fraction of a second though ~20ms for 1M runs)

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat thanks :D

Mega Man

@DJMcMayhem Yep it does. I'm currently writing on one XD

Conor O'Brien

I was using a big-honking regex to parse my language and now I'm rather adverse to it after it took 5s to parse two consecutive comments.

Mega Man

Huh.

DJMcMayhem

18:39

@MegaMan :O I have one, wth? How did I not know that?

Downgoat

@Pavel that isn't very good though :( it identifies me as jack-o-lantern

Kritixi Lithos

I almost got soul-ninja'd by @MegaMan: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/33967555#33967555

ErikGolferエリックゴルファー

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A: Shortest infinite loop producing no output

Cubix, 0 bytes Alternatively, any single character does exactly the same. Test it online! Cubix is a stack-based 2D language, created by me in March 2016. Cubix differs from ordinary 2D languages in that it's not strictly 2D: the code is wrapped around a cube. Any one-byte program wraps to ...

The time Cubix beat Jelly. Record.

Pavel

That's part of the challenge. Also, you're upside down.

Downgoat

@ErikGolferエリックゴルファー I mean in this challenge. Cheddar v0.0.315 beats Jelly :P

Mega Man

18:41

@DJMcMayhem Well, it's in the fast-access bar or whatever the name is

ErikGolferエリックゴルファー

@Downgoat I was talking about another thing lol.

Downgoat

proof

Mega Man

@KritixiLithos Best name I've ever heard :) Reminds me of this Swords and Souls game on Kongregate or Newgrounds or Armor Games or where I've played that

Is there any way to pm someone on se?

DJMcMayhem

Not unless you're a mod

Mega Man

Oh damn

Downgoat

18:46

@MegaMan You can always ask them to send you their public key, and then send encrypted message over normal chat

Mega Man

@Downgoat eye roll XD

DJMcMayhem

That sounds way too complicated. Why not just exchange emails?

Mega Man

@Downgoat found the profile on github, so I don't think it's necessary XD

Downgoat

@DJMcMayhem because then your email address get exposed! :P

Mega Man

@Downgoat I'm not even showing my email on SE...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

18:48

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Mega Man

The most unreadable lang ever... just look at the parser mappings XD github.com/TuukkaX/Floroid

How do I include this?

DJMcMayhem

@Downgoat use a throwaway. I have one just for SE related stuff

[my username] [at] [google mail]

Kritixi Lithos

I have a throwaway, but I don't even want to expose that :P

Mega Man

How do you get them without making annoying accounts where you need your true e-mail?

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

ninja'd is just the result of a race condition

Mega Man

18:55

So call it "beat in a race"

DJMcMayhem

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