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18:00
@Dennis If you have a better avatar idea, I'm all ears
Easterly send you one some time ago. I liked it.
yes
please
Sep 26 at 13:49, by Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ
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@Fatalize According to tiobe.com/tiobe-index, J is more popular than Julia, Maple, PowerShell, and SPSS.
@Dennis I wrote beeswax.tryitonline.net, and I tried to stop a beeswax program, but it didn't, so I tried refreshing, and I got the error
18:01
@DJMcMayhem
@KritixiLithos Does the error still happen? It loads just fine for me.
@Dennis To be fair the only user of Powershell in the world is Timmy
@Dennis It works now, that was the only time I saw the error
This answer deserves more recognition. I can't even grok it:
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A: Loading... Forever

udioicaVim, 35 bytes iLoading... \-/|<Esc>qqdb:sl250m<CR>p@qq@q The boring version. Here's a non-complying solution that's better: Vim (1 second sleep), 27 bytes idbgsp@@<C-U>Loading... \-/|<Esc>@. Using gs not only is much shorter, but you don't have to hit Enter. That means the macro fits in-line...

@Downgoat I'm deeply sorry, but I have a new steam friend and his avatar is a sheep.
18:03
@Fatalize Hey. I'm sure there are like two or three people in Microsoft that dabble in it...
can you forgive me for this
Prolog 37th hah
@TimmyD no. the 2016 powershell poll gave 1
@KritixiLithos The server was probably just overloaded, possibly because of the program you couldn't stop. :P
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Noooooooooooo!!!!
18:04
@Fatalize And Delphi is 16. How is that even possible?
I guess the scariest is COBOL and Fortran at 27 and 28
;___; this is unforgivable
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ It looks really ugly and squashed. I'll see if I can crop it
ok cool
@Downgoat from his profile: "I like sheep..."
18:05
@Dennis Good thing I learnt Object Pascal as my first language. Gotta put it back in my Resume then!
@Downgoat he's also a heavy main, anti-pyros in general
he doesn't w+m1 though unlike a certain pyro main
How the hell is Perl 10
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ excellent taste
Perl is a great language.
I've never met someone who seriously uses Perl
18:06
I used to write CGI scripts in it before PHP became a thing.
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ How's that?
When PHP became a thing, I switched to Bash.
@Fatalize You must have not met a lot of people then :P
@DrMcMoylex :D 10/10
"DJ Cat-in-Hat" or something would also be nice, but up to you
Perl sitting comfortably at #10
18:10
If you look at the long term history table you can see it slowly dying
Emphasis on slowly. It's still used as glue in one way or another in most big systems
(yes including a lot of modern ones)
Perl? You mean I can actually be useful in the modern programming industry?
18:13
Terrifying
@quartata in users or cat hats
I'd like to think both
@Downgoat please pull the relay and ChatExchange, I've added a pull command so I'll never have to bother you about it again
lol
@Dennis the previous version of this image made it to 8 stars, only fitting that this image breaks that.
I'm going a little nuts at this point; it's been broken for 5 days
Also the me field is wrong (I put the wrong ID in the initial commit)
18:17
@GabrielBenamy I know people who work with perl in bioinformatics
Please fix that
How did the whole "DR Seuss" thing even start in the first place?
@BlueEyedBeast That sounds cool. Maybe I can get a satisfying job one day.
18:23
@Dennis ahahaha
@Dennis Sometimes I encapsulation instead of using words I don't understand
Time to bring this back
I've said it before and I'll say it again: That "beef" suspiciously looks like something else.
At least it's not as bad as the time I graphed the tan function in such a way that it looked very indecent
18:27
I had horse meatballs at Ikea once. They weren't called horse meatballs but were very nice anyway
Doesn't Ikea sell furniture?
@Dennis yes
So furniture and horse meatballs. Huh.
Ikea is a dungeon that only allows you to escape once you've bought furniture. In the meantime, they also have a food court so you don't starve while you decide exactly which furniture is worth your escape.
but it's like a 2 hour drive and you stay there for ages so they have a restaurant as well
18:30
Maybe I'm just misremembering (it's been decades since I stepped into an Ikea store), but I don't recall them having food courts in Germany.
@Dennis they do
(actual map)
(and they did for as long as I can remember)
they do in CA, USA also
@BlueEyedBeast I was just gonna say, it only looks like the first image if you don't know how an IKEA works :P
18:32
they sell elderberry jam in pints
Huh.
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ they have crates stuffed with plushies
never noticed that here
like 2x2x1m ones
you're in UK, right?
@BlueEyedBeast wtf
18:33
yep
@BlueEyedBeast I doubt that Köttbullar are made from horsemeat. Traditionally they're made from moose apparently, but I'm pretty sure IKEA just uses beef or pork or some mix thereof.
@MartinEnder how often do you go to ikea?
seems like a lot to me :p
only when I have to
maybe twice a year?
@MartinEnder It's a running joke my friends have as we went during a scandal about horse-meat replacing beef
i've been there like twice in 5 years
18:35
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I go there whenever I do LARPING
I moved a lot over the past 6 years
@BlueEyedBeast why?
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ because it's literally 20 minutes away
why ikea though
what's good about it for larping
and sometimes we need furniture and it means we don't have to go anytime in the future
18:36
@BlueEyedBeast oh, I didn't know that scandal/joke extended beyond Iceland (the food chain)
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ labyrinthe.co.uk
The only cave-based LARPing place in the UK
@BlueEyedBeast Not sure what the problem is. My grandma loves horse salami.
@BlueEyedBeast you use it as a dungeon, got it
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ It's really cool. Light sources are a pain though
18:37
hm, okay
you don't get kicked out/yelled at by people?
we have to get glowsticks and sometimes hide them so other's can't see us
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ no it's a dedicated area
wait your ikea is okay with larping in it?
that's epic
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ not the ikea :D
it's in caves near the ikea
18:39
I'm pretty sure Easterly is just messing with you at this point :P
@BlueEyedBeast OH
>_>
@MartinEnder it was good while it lasted, but yeah that was confusing for a bit
@BlueEyedBeast TBF going to the ikea dressed like gandalf and doing larping inside the ikea would be amazing
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I am in my larping gear when I go in
Do get some strange looks
lol
"Mommy, what's the dude dressed in a weird robe doing" "hunting the goblins inside the store for us"
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

ETHproductionsAscending Sequence of Characters (I-something I-something) popularity-contest restricted-source The full printable ASCII set (chars 32-126) in ascending order looks like this: !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~ Your task is to cr...

(not in a cave)
nice pointy stick
18:43
@BlueEyedBeast Your face is more....
I have 2 but 1 isn't in the photo
Blank then I was expecting
(Accidently hit enter)
@BlueEyedBeast needs more pointy stick
@flawr 10/10
now walk over @BlueEyedBeast's pointy sticks
@DrMcMoylex squarish that you thought?
Have people seen OK Go's latest masterpiece? They've outdone themselves again.
3
18:48
what were they firing to break the white balls and then the glass?
some sort of bullet I guess?
@MartinEnder I wonder how many takes it took:)
@BlueEyedBeast BTW, ><> is not working, I think its because of the weird characters from Seriously
Probably not that many, seeing how expensive one take is (and how long it would take to set it up). I'd imagine they just practised all the bits and pieces over and over.
@BlueEyedBeast It is not working on TIO, but it is working on fishlanguage.com/playground
18:53
Perhaps nobody would listen to their songs if it wasn't for the videos ^^
@KritixiLithos I did have it as C+P only right?
with a link to that site
@Maltysen Ok the inverse of 1 is really tricky, you probably need some functional analysis, since the "delta function" is not really a function but a "distribution" (basically something that is only defined by the integral of it multiplied with other "test functions")
And I can now understand why rogues need to be really far away from the rest of the party to have a chance at surprise attacks
the fighters really do go clunk clunk clunk
and more
@BlueEyedBeast It does not say that in the co-op submission, that's why I'm adding that it
I've just finished Mostly Harmless. Douglas Adams is awesome.
Is And Another Thing... good? Should I read it?
18:59
@betseg I only got to So Long and Thanks For all the Fish before I gave up
@betseg I liked Last Chance to See
@betseg Not particularly. If you want quality Douglas Adams, read Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency next.
thx
To give you an idea: Given a function f find a function u such that u'' = f. This is not too difficult by integrating. But surely if u'' = f then u'' * v = f*v for all functions v which are "good enough" (i.e. smooth e.t.c.) but then integral(f*v over [a,b]) = integral(u''*v over [a,b]) = integral(u'*v over [a,b]) - u'(b)*v'(b)+u'(a)*v'(a).

Now you can show that (for some function spaces) you can also find solutions to the problem ` integral(f*v over [a,b]) = integral(u''*v over [a,b]) = integral(u'*v over [a,b]) - u'(b)*v'(b)+u'(a)*v'(a)`. But they are not necessarily two times differenti
@flawr but planes don't?
@GabrielBenamy :( and they made that into a shit tv show
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Are you referring to Dirk Gently (2012 TV series) or Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (2016 TV series)?
I wouldn't call it "shit", but it's not Dirk Gently.
The 2012 series was much better IMO
never watched that one
which isn't to say I'm not thoroughly entertained by the new one, it's just not really Dirk Gently.
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Sure, plane lives do matter. That is why we have to honour their ends:)
o ok
@GabrielBenamy I personally don't like it too much, but it's fine. but it's a shit copy of the book :p
19:14
It's not even meant to be a copy of the book. It canonically takes place after LDTTotS, and I enjoy some of the wild-ass humor ("LOOK OUT, HE'S GOT THE SHARK!") but Dirk is not meant to be an idiot, just a space cadet.
I need this so much:
why am i reading about the stress-energy tensor and the graviton instead of doing work
My keyboard decided to die on me :(
That's the first time that's ever happened to me
@TimmyD I tired it in 3 different computers
Yep, sounds dead.
Unless all three USB ports are dead.
@MartinEnder I saw that yesterday, it's crazy :-)
Apparently I have posted the 3333rd challenge on the Sandbox
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19:52
rip me, I'm about to fall asleep
@ETHproductions what about deleted ones though?
This makes now two people who wrote me mails asking if I want to join a ML project to "fight" ""fake news"". Maybe one should find the root problem. Because the question is why do they exist, and why do they spread. Nothing is produced for free. So clearly there's ad money to make with ""fake news"" (god I hate that term). Regulating ad syndicates and networks is long overdue and would solve this "problem" (or at least the majority of it). All without fancy ML.
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ That number includes deleted ones
On the meta homepage, it says 1k answers (1,312 specifically), which is the non-deleted count
19:58
@mınxomaτ hey, I have this idea to regulate ads, but it'll require some machine learning. Want to join?
01189998819991197253
@NathanMerrill Can't. I'm working on their other very specific and clearly well though-through proposals "Create a self-driving car" and "flag ISIS twitter accounts".
@mınxomaτ why stop at flagging twitter accounts? why not send automated drones to kill them?
and be careful not to hurt civilians or captives
I have a sequence:
f(x) = 1, 8, 588, 3088,... defined as such
The trailing digits of 2^f(x) contain only 1s and 2s, and 2^f(x) ends the same way as 2^f(x-1)
Find f(5)
2^1 = 2
2^8 ends in 12
2^588 ends in 22112
2^3088 ends in 12122112
@BlueEyedBeast Tweeting, self-driving tanks.
20:12
@GabrielBenamy 2^8 is 256 o.O
@Poke wait whoops I'm off by 1
I have a sequence:
f(x) = 1, 9, 589, 3089,... defined as such
The trailing digits of 2^f(x) contain only 1s and 2s, and 2^f(x) ends the same way as 2^f(x-1)
Find f(5)
2^1 = 2
2^9 ends in 12
2^589 ends in 22112
2^3089 ends in 12122112
@Martin or @Dennis, could you please unfreeze the Crayon room?
Thank you :)
ninja'd
winter has gone
My code cannot verify that such a number exists
20:19
lol ... golfing the "Numbers divisible by sum and product" challenge, and I somehow managed to mangle it into producing squares
@GabrielBenamy what dictates the desired length of the "suffix"
just consecutive 1's and 2's?
Output for 1 through 9 is now 1,4,9,16,25,...
But it has to be longer than the previous suffix
@TimmyD Producing that is easy, just square the desired output ;)
Output for 10 would be 144, which may or may not be what you mean
@ETHproductions Haha.
20:23
@GabrielBenamy Are you just using brute force? You're already getting into some pretty large numbers there
Oh, I see what I did wrong. Used a $_ instead of a $a. I don't know how it was deciding that squares made the if truthy though.
@Poke Yeah, I am. I'm doing it very naively because I can barely think straight and I'm literally just doing this to keep myself awake at work
@GabrielBenamy 2^89 ends in 2112
well there you have had f(5) all along
A quick JS program finds 315589 as f(6)
ends in 1212122112
2^8128089 ends in 11212122112
I'm going to run out of precision soon
@ETHproductions Woot, we just recently had the 2222!
@GabrielBenamy
@mschauer yeah?
see previous message
2^164378089 ends in 111212122112
as does 2^359690589, but I guess we don't count that one
20:38
wild
sadly I have a phone call to be on so I can't look at this stuff right now
should I put this problem in the sandbox?
something like "calculate the first 100 values of f(x)
100 values seems a little much, I've only gotten up to 8
okay, 15
Perhaps
New theory: after f(2) = 9, all answers end in 589 or 089
Time to consume a month and a half of B12 in a single drink
Wait a second-- the powers of 2 that end in 11212122112 are of the form 2^(39062500n + 8128089) where n is any non-negative integer
Perhaps there's something to be deduced here
Okay, I've found f(9): 945628089 (ends in 1111212122112)
So that makes the full list so far:
f(1) = 1 (2)
f(2) = 9 (12)
f(3) = 89 (2112)
f(4) = 589 (22112)
f(5) = 3089 (12122112)
f(6) = 315589 (1212122112)
f(7) = 8128089 (11212122112)
f(8) = 164378089 (111212122112)
f(9) = 945628089 (1111212122112)
21:00
now golf it
Here's the awfully slow code I'm using:
for(i=1,j=0;j<1e9;i=i*2%1e14,j++)if(/11212122112$/.test(i))console.log(j,i);con‌​sole.log("done")
I would appear that from here on out the solutions end in 8089, which may help somewhat
i wonder what a word cloud of PPCG or this chat would look like.
BTW: GitHub is hiring like crazy this month: jobs.github.com/companies/GitHub
> Oh yeah, I've done that [naming huge spiders that live in the house]. One time a huntsman was on the back of my laptop and when I closed it I nearly had a heart attack. Then I realised it was just Peter. Fucking Peter, man.
My recent challenge has 5 deleted (invalid) answers for only 2 valid ones :-(
.... is there a badge for that?
21:20
I drank an energy drink and now I'm exhausted but jittery
@MartinEnder yep
@ETHproductions wat
why am i front and center twice
dennis too
@ETHproductions How long would it take to do the entire history? :P
Nice though!
a while
but still pls do it
@El'endiaStarman ^
Dunno, I'm sure I can use TNBDE to scrape together the text of at least a few days
21:22
@ETHproductions yay my name is huge!
@ETHproductions That f(x looks very golfy :-)
Generating word cloud from the last 10000 messages on TNBDE... this might take a while
@ETHproductions what about from all starred messages
@ETHproductions I could maybe provide you a several megabyte file with the entire message contents of TNB...all 1 million plus messages... :P
21:26
You'd be better off asking @mınxomaτ for that though. Speaking of which, I want to get the raw contents of messages into the database somehow. Do you have a file or something somewhere where I can download it and transfer the data?
I can also provide you this but I'll throw in a free unicorn
@El'endiaStarman I have completely obliterated the notebook where that file was on.
ahahahahaha
@mınxomaτ ......well then.
Do you really go through that many computers in just a couple months
21:27
@El'endiaStarman I promise I'll redo that before Christmas (just remind me every day)
Hmm, I see a,b,c in the e of set
@ETHproductions remove all the common words first?
@quartata Oh that one was a complete clusterfuck. After finishing the file I wanted to export it. I couldn't mount anything, there was a fault in every port. Then I tried uploading it somewhere. The WiFi module died. Then I rebooted, which killed the notebook.
It then served as a doorstop for a few days before disposal.
@mınxomaτ oh my god?
It was dying for a long time. It lasted some 8 years.
21:31
@ETHproductions interesting that "furniture" is bigger than "program"
lulz
@Poke we did have a conversation about ikea
alright, everyone skew the data by saying obscure words like "syzygy" and "Zzyzx, California"
Antidisestablishmentarianism
@mschauer Explain what?
21:33
ah, hi
i was curious why your algorithm breaks down when the number of ones grows logarithmically instead of polynomially (or did I not get this right?)
Do you mean exponentially instead of logarithmically?
no, so initially i and some others thought that the number of new levels in the sequence is of logarithmic order
Well it is poly-logarithmic in the upper bound apparently
and you showed that it is infact polynomial in the length of the sequence
that's the same thing
21:37
we would have to send a LOT of random messages between now and whenever someone compiles all the data in order to skew it that much :(
How about we don't do that, eh?
unless we use a custom cloud generator where we can specify the impact-fullness of a word by appending *# to the end, like "asdf*1000" would count asdf 1000 times
to be specific, when i is the number of ones and k the length, I thought i = log(alpha,k) and you showed i = k^alpha
@Yodle thy ridiculosity perplexes me
@GabrielBenamy I actually have an uncle there.
21:40
Heh, maybe I should delete that message so nobody actually does it :(
well, lives near there
he's a professor of some sort
DAKISHIIIIMETE, MOU HANASANAI!
OTOHIME HEART DE CATCH!
@mschauer Yeah looks like it. BTW the script I used is gist.github.com/niklasb/a9acccec2d3f8d10847527d9d8e6db20 if you want to experiment more
thank you
i have a probabilistic way to compute it
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ How many aunts and uncles do you have?
(Almost typed "ants" there... :P)
21:43
@El'endiaStarman 18
@Yodle too late. i read the message
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Jeeeez...your grandparents were productive!
> Dennis, THINK
goat's quite big
@El'endiaStarman Don't wanna.
21:45
10 tricks to guarantee nobody ever offers to have you hold their baby again!
#7 When someone offers you their baby, shake your head and say "no thanks, I just ate"
I think one of all the challenges would be cool, too. I'd expect bytes, code-golf, shortest, etc. to be up there.
I think I should have just removed the HTML tags, not whole lines
@mschauer CodeGolf #2 idea: Print the 77^77'th number in the sequence :P
I think java should be larger because java is a great language. Everyone should learn java and code in java. java java java
/cough
@Poke That would give me more people to try to beat with C#
21:46
f(k0) = begin k=k0;i=0;while k > 1;i+=1; k = k*(1 - k^(log(10,9/10)));end; println(log(i,k0)); i; end
Perl is obviously where it's at
ɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC and Downgoat were up next in the "waiting to be drawn" queue when the program ran out of room
@NiklasB. f(k0) above is an estimate of i given k. a slightly improved version is
k=k0=big(7)^77;i=0;while k > 1;i+=1; k = k*(1 - (9/10)^(log(10,k)-2)*0.73);end;
the first formula is valid if only numbers with digit 7 are unspeakable, the second is closer when also numbers divisible by 7 are unspeakable
it agrees quite well with your graph
Let's try that again: i.sstatic.net/7w7wh.png
Oddly, Dennis kinda disappeared
21:57
spotted a "yup" at the side :P
CMC: 143/x == y/324. Find x and y (You can't use x=143 or y=324)
@ETHproductions Haha, that big "think". Looks like a weird motivational poster
"bytes, crap!" - me when golfing
@TuxCopter x=143, y=324
At least "code" is right up there this time, even if it meant removing Dennis
21:59
That microscopic "OOP".
@ETHproductions Nonsense, I'm right here.

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