The Nineteenth Byte

El'endia Starman

15:02

@PhiNotPi Interesting. Can it handle order of operations yet?

PhiNotPi

nope

Erik the Golfer

@EasterlyIrk Wait; will you make smallcaps again? Right now it's dead :(

My name was smallcaps, but it died... I have a note on my profile page (currently MD source available as a link)

PhiNotPi

I'm actually going to focus on a lot of other stuff before that. Order of operations will actually be one of the last features I add.

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Oooh, okay. Yeah, order of operations isn't necessary.

Does anyone else think it's really cool that Adam Savage of Mythbusters fame is a cosplayer and Imgurian?

PhiNotPi

I think I'm to add parsing for if and while loops next, and then subroutines.

After that... it going to be a lot of "fun" managing the symbol table.

Lynn

15:09

@Emigna How do I repeat a list in 05AB1E? [5,8] 3 → [5,8,5,8,5,8]

× doesn’t seem to work, or *

Or, hey, if anyone else here knows, feel free

They left!! Fine sheesh I’ll use Jelly :T

Yodle

I don't know either of those :(

The very evil ROFLcopter

Use Y

PhiNotPi

Y tho?

The very evil ROFLcopter

:32918403 github.com/tuxcrafting/y/blob/master/Doc.md

Geobits

Yeah, I realized it was hidden in the obscurely named Doc.md :P

The very evil ROFLcopter

15:19

lol

TimmyD

@Geobits Doctor Doctor?

Geobits

I thought it was a strange name, too. But it's a strange world.

ArtOfCode

@TimmyD I feel like a pair of curtains

Emigna

@Lynn You can do it like this. Might not be the best way depending on the rest of the code though.

The very evil ROFLcopter

(On the your-mom repo)

Clickbait level >9000

Geobits

15:27

<100 views != clickbait9000+

The very evil ROFLcopter

55 unique visitors

Lynn

@Emigna How strange. I had the outsider impression that 05AB1E has a built-in for everything, but it lacks some really basic ones. ?_?

I have no idea why/how it’s as competitive as it is! Magic

Emigna

It's really good at most things. Bad at others.

Geobits

@TheveryevilROFLcopter 55 is still kinda low though >_>

Lynn

I guess maybe it has some very surprising built-ins that come up more often than you’d think

The very evil ROFLcopter

15:29

CMC: Create a non stack-based language that do as good as Actually/GolfScript/CJam/Osabie (Hint: You can't)

Lynn

Like the bifurcate one

Emigna

Very useful command.

DJMcMayhem

@TheveryevilROFLcopter V is not stack based, and it's sometimes competitive with them

TimmyD

@ArtOfCode Pull yourself together, man, you have only 3 minutes to live.

Lynn

@TheveryevilROFLcopter How about Jelly and Pyth?

The very evil ROFLcopter

15:30

._.

DJMcMayhem

There's also pyth and jelly and ninja

The very evil ROFLcopter

Jelly have some very weird parsing rules and Pyth... Is Pyth

Lynn

Jelly’s parsing rules are so nifty, I swear I’m going to print the dyadic chain parsing rules on a T-shirt and wear it to GolfCon 2017

The very evil ROFLcopter

Those 'chains' are hurting my brain

Lynn

Now J, that’s tacit and truly baffling to read. With its adverbs and conjunctions and stuff, aaaa

Yodle

15:34

I think I have a good idea for a Halloween-themed challenge

Sherlock9

Thanks for the reminder that I still need to learn Jelly

@DJMcMayhem Ninja?

DJMcMayhem

@Sherlock9 yeah, Lynn wrote "pyth and jelly" while I was writing the same thing

Sherlock9

Ah, fair enough. I was kind of hoping someone created a language named Ninja

DJMcMayhem

feature-request

Geobits

Esolang Ninja: Given input as an answer URL, posts a copy of that answer to the same question, and "hacks" the SE database to change the time to four seconds before the original.

That's the entire spec :D

DJMcMayhem

15:43

It's fairly difficult to implement

Geobits

Yep

Sherlock9

Or ninja'd, so you could FGITW with Ninja'd, 13 bytes. Like the idea behind Actually, 13 bytes

Dang Internet connection

Geobits

> Verified 13 bytes

> Only 13 bytes

Fair warning to anyone thinking of naming a language for puns/jokes: They will never stop, you will get tired of them, and you have nobody but yourself to blame.

10

Ask Mego about it :P

Nathan Merrill

@PhiNotPi I've added "Pillar" which is a good response to clone-heavy teams

DJMcMayhem

Are you actually serious?

Nathan Merrill

15:46

you can only be sliced once a turn

(cleave is another good choice as well)

I also though it was crazy: If each character can clone, and each has a bear, then at the start of the game, there'll be 9 characters against your 3 :)

that said, it takes 108 mana on each character, which requires at least 11 of your 20 points be assigned to mana

Nathan Merrill

16:05

I killed chat. sorry :)

The very evil ROFLcopter

Silence?

PhiNotPi

> Agility: Reduces Speed by 1

I get what you mean... but it strikes me as a weird way to word it.

Nathan Merrill

better way?

I changed it to that in an effort to reduce terminology

PhiNotPi

normally reducing speed makes you slower

Nathan Merrill

Increases speed by -1?

betseg

16:11

So decreases speed by 1?

Geobits

If Speed is a delay between actions, it shouldn't be called Speed imo.

Nathan Merrill

what's a better name, then?

betseg

Qworpduista

Geobits

I don't know the full context, but some form of Delay or Action Interval, etc.

Increasing "speed" should never make you go slower.

The very evil ROFLcopter

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/36668/53745 :/ Why is this deleted

Nathan Merrill

16:13

also, I was really considering making it 2, until I realized that a player could get 40 extra points via abilities, so they would end up with 100-55*2 = -10 speed :)

DJMcMayhem

@TheveryevilROFLcopter because it's NAA

Geobits

> Deleted by owner

The very evil ROFLcopter

It's the most upvoted answer

DJMcMayhem

Doesn't make it valid

Nathan Merrill

logic doesn't follow democracy

TimmyD

16:16

The last comment literally says why it was deleted.

> Technically, we should have to downvote this because the rules say don't use code from other's programs

The very evil ROFLcopter

(>)*9    nine noses
(        open bracket
>-->     a fish
(>+>-)   I'm watching you
>+       headless man
)        close that bracket

^ This explanation is gold

PhiNotPi

What I would do... is perhaps define "speed" as higher=faster, but then calculate delays based on an inverse.

Geobits

That works too

Nathan Merrill

I'm going with the term Turn Delay

The very evil ROFLcopter

chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/31493620#31493620 lol this message have 13 stars

Geobits

16:19

Jul 31 '15 at 19:08, by Geobits

True. I can't help that everything I say is gold.

TimmyD

@TheveryevilROFLcopter Half-Life 13 confirmed.

betseg

And over starring message hasn't reached 100 stars yet ;_;

The very evil ROFLcopter

Nov 12 '15 at 22:26, by Doorknob

okay seriously stop abusing stars

Only 6 to go

PhiNotPi

Also, it's worth noting that speed also makes actions cool down faster.

The very evil ROFLcopter

Call the thing Cool down delay

Agility: Reduce cool down delay

Dennis

16:21

@NathanMerrill I don't think we have an epic tag. What would it be used for?

Geobits

Only the most [epic] of posts, clearly.

Nathan Merrill

@Dennis flair, obviously

Geobits

That, or long winded stories.

Nathan Merrill

@PhiNotPi and regeneration too!

speed is really powerful, which is why stuns are really powerful

because they operate on ticks not turns

as well as slows

Anonymous

@Lynn Wait is GolfCon a thing?

Anonymous

16:23

@Geobits :(

The very evil ROFLcopter

CMC: Create a stupidly verbose language called Only

PhiNotPi

how much damage does slice do?

The very evil ROFLcopter

## Only 100 bytes

Anonymous

0:5:3 damage

Nathan Merrill

@PhiNotPi primary attribute

betseg

16:25

I'll try making an overly verbose verbosefuck and name it only

PhiNotPi

okay, so if my highest attribute is 15, then it does 15 damage?

Nathan Merrill

yep. Aside from all ability modifers

well, that's not true

your primary attribute is fixed throughout the game

if your primary attribute goes down, it still remains your primary attribute

which makes Absorb quite powerful

Geobits

@Mego Am I wrong? ;)

The very evil ROFLcopter

Wait a second? What? — Rohan Jhunjhunwala Aug 5 at 12:07

17 upvotes

Anonymous

@Geobits Not even a little :(

The very evil ROFLcopter

16:31

Yes ;_;

Geobits

Flags? :/

The very evil ROFLcopter

?

Geobits

> You cannot counterflag your own message.

@TheveryevilROFLcopter Both the 'your mom' messages got flagged.

The very evil ROFLcopter

Oh lol

jokerdino

thanks for the invite o.O

Yvette Colomb

16:34

well it seems the community does not like it when people insult each other's mothers.

ok that handled I'm going

Anonymous

@YvetteColomb Who woulda thought?

Zalgo

Your-mom is a joke golfing language

Erik the Golfer

@jokerdino Apparently TheveryevilROFLcopter deleted the messages.

Dennis

sighs Who flagged those messages?

jokerdino

resists making the joke.

Yvette Colomb

16:35

well the flags brought people in here. So I don't know who flagged them

bye

Erik the Golfer

@Dennis I think it was Geobits, but I'm not sure.

Geobits

@EriktheGolfer You think I flagged my own message and got myself chat-banned? Yeah, no.

The very evil ROFLcopter

lol

Anonymous

Flags are anonymous for a reason. Let's avoid pointless speculation about the identities of flaggers.

10

Geobits

^

Erik the Golfer

16:36

@Mego They're not when you say "I flagged it"...

The very evil ROFLcopter

Yet another reason that calling this language your-mom was a Very Bad Idea™

Anonymous

@EriktheGolfer I don't see anyone claiming the flags, so I don't know how that's relevant here

Erik the Golfer

@Geobits Wait; were these your messages? And yes, you can flag messages yourself, but only for mod attention.

Anonymous

It's probably best we move on, now that the situation has been handled

Geobits

@TheveryevilROFLcopter Jumping on a sock account to make your case when you get chat-banned is also a Very Bad Idea, for the record.

7

The very evil ROFLcopter

16:37

...

Lynn

@Mego No but hey let's meet up at my place for pizza and call it GolfCon 2017. °ワ°

2

Anonymous

@Lynn I'm in. I'll bring the booze.

The very evil ROFLcopter

@Lynn wtf that emoticon

Geobits

Well now I wouldn't mind going to GolfCon

Lynn

(We can do it in as few bites as possible ha ha ha *stuffs her face*)

9

Erik the Golfer

16:39

@Lynn I'm in too! Let's eat pizza! Then we watch the match.

TimmyD

Did someone say pizza?

Geobits

Pizza and booze, for that matter.

The very evil ROFLcopter

Pizza? Pizza!

Erik the Golfer

@TimmyD No :P

Anonymous

@Geobits Pizza, booze, and I'm presuming some games and CMCs (convention mini-challenges)

Anonymous

16:41

@Lynn We'll be over in 5

Erik the Golfer

it seems everybody loves pizza so make it fast!!

Geobits

Where is this again? It might take me longer than 5.

Anonymous

Oh you mean you don't have access to Google's super-secret portal technology?

4

Lynn

GolfCon is truly me and Jens Renders awkwardly existing in the same university building while I write this

Anonymous

Jens Renders?

Erik the Golfer

16:42

^

Anonymous

Oh the OP

Lynn

The question asker

Geobits

@Mego Huh? No, everybody's got that by now. I meant I need to find a babysitter if there's gonna be booze involved.

Anonymous

@Geobits The babysitter is the booze!

Anonymous

It's a flawless plan

Geobits

16:43

@Mego Not until he figures that out for himself.

Anonymous

Nothing has ever gone wrong when children and alcohol mix. Ever.

Erik the Golfer

@Mego That one is true despite Geobits's saying!

PhiNotPi

@NathanMerrill consider the following strategy: pile all 20 extra points into strength, so str=25. Max HP = 250. Put all 4 abilities into Regenerate, so regen rate = 62.5 in total. Is there any way for the other team to put out that much damage per turn?

Erik the Golfer

@Mego Except for the moment when children go all crazy and start breaking stuff (no, not the Jelly jar, we need it!)

PhiNotPi

The only way I see them being able to, is if they likewise pour all of their points into STR.

Nathan Merrill

16:46

absorb, swipe, drain

all of those are really good against high STR enemies

Anonymous

Why does this sound like Transistor abilities?

PhiNotPi

is there any strong counterattack to that ASD combo?

Nathan Merrill

mobility

swipe depends on attacking the same character

absorb has a duration before reverting, and drain has a range of 1

Erik the Golfer

@Mego Google = Leader ya no am i →?

Geobits

Maybe it's just me, but the drupal.se logo looks an awful lot like a slime‌.

This could have something to do with me picking up a copy of DQ7 for 3DS recently.

DJMcMayhem

16:52

Can we make golfcon a thing?

Erik the Golfer

@Geobits Drupal Answers really looks like slime to me...

Geobits

@DJMcMayhem Only if there's pizza and booze.

PhiNotPi

@DJMcMayhem there's this thing: cnfrnc.net by Sparr

DJMcMayhem

(Ignoring the fact that most of us are thousands of miles away from each other)

Stewie Griffin

@Dennis, are you OK with me un-accepting your answer to the iloveyou-challenge? It was the first to reach 33 bytes, but the -3 bytes were thanks to @JonathanAllan who happens to be tied with you...

Geobits

16:53

@EriktheGolfer Yeah, that's what I linked o_O

DJMcMayhem

@Geobits I'll bring the pizza if you bring the booze

Jonathan Allan

@StewieGriffin - I'm not too bothered :D

Erik the Golfer

@DJMcMayhem Sure, it has pizza booze and a babysitter (which is the booze itself, by the way.)

Stewie Griffin

@JonathanAllan but maybe I am :P

DJMcMayhem

@PhiNotPi Ehh, but that's in san-Fran. I've driven to san-Fran before, and it's not something I'd like to do again

Jonathan Allan

16:54

such a great challenge mate

Anonymous

SF is nice to look at from a safe distance

Erik the Golfer

@StewieGriffin There are RULEZ and you ought 2 follow them, or else....... also, the content of a post matters, not the OP. If the posting date is earlier, then you should not unaccept. There must be a shorter solution in order to unaccept.

Dennis

@StewieGriffin I wouldn't mind, but you'd rob Mego and Jonathan of the chance to earn the golden Populist badge.

Geobits

...or else...?

Jonathan Allan

hehe good point!

Erik the Golfer

16:58

@Geobits You know that stuff...

Nathan Merrill

@Dennis when you become a mod, those badges clearly have a lot more importance :)

Geobits

@EriktheGolfer No. I really don't.

Anonymous

Ooh yeah I only need two more upvotes for Populist

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