I think your problem is that you're using windows

get linux and everything will be there

and it will work without weird emulator

@Lynn CW?

community wiki

@Fatalize Ah OK. Thanks!

TL;DR don't use SWISH for IO :p

@TùxCräftîñg i know what CW stands for I'm saying CW is solution

kkk

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ಠ?ಠ

wat

6KBPS 2 quick 4 u m8

wat, i just did spped test and im get 125mbps :O

this is surprising because comcast usually only delivers 10% of promised internet speed

bison definitively dont work

share source so we can halp debug?

and i dont want to rewrite again a shitty recursive decent parser

@TùxCräftîñg ಠ_ಠ

recursive decent parser is best bad parser

I'm thinking of making an esolang based on a tape of stacks. What do you think?

»  bison
C:/MinGW/bin/bison.exe: error while loading shared libraries: ?: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Elie@elie-asus — /d/Neoscript
»  bison --help
C:/MinGW/bin/bison.exe: error while loading shared libraries: ?: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Elie@elie-asus — /d/Neoscript
»  bison ಠ_ಠ
C:/MinGW/bin/bison.exe: error while loading shared libraries: ?: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Elie@elie-asus — /d/Neoscript
»  bison, use greet!

(my shell always start at /d/Neoscript for an obscure reason)

you didn't compile bison correctly

i didnt compiled it...

i used this

try use cygwin

maybe try cd and then run?

Elie@elie-asus — /c/MinGW/bin
»  ./bison.exe
C:/MinGW/bin/bison.exe: error while loading shared libraries: ?: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

is MinGW/bin in ur PATH?

»  echo $PATH
/c/Users/Elie/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/c/Users/Elie/Desktop/cmder/vendor/conemu-maximus5/ConEmu/Scripts:/c/Users/Elie/Desktop/cmder/vendor/conemu-maximus5:/c/Users/Elie/Desktop/cmder/vendor/conemu-maximus5/ConEmu:/c/Program Files/ImageMagick-7.0.2-Q16:/c/Users/Elie/AppData/Local/Programs/Python/Python35-32/Lib/site-packages/PyQt5:/c/Program Files (x86)/OpenLibraries/bin:/c/Wiz:/c/Perl64/bin:/c/iverilog/bin:/c/Tcl/bin:/c/Program Files/nodejs:/c/Program Files/LLVM/bin:/c/MinGW/bin:/c/ACME:/c/Windows/System32:/c/Program Files/Java/jre1.8.0_91/bin:/bin:/c/Program Files/do…

yes it is

so i think this mean... yet another recursive-decent parser ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

idk, only thing i can say is try cygwin

i use git bash

+ mingw + msys

+ a lot of things

@Syxer approved. that makes 3 of us. sadly nowhere near each other.

I'm gonna hit up a few coding meetups in SF, particularly at makerspaces

I'm thinking of making an esolang based on a tape of stacks. What do you think?

#stackcats

I'm invisioning something comepletely different from Stack Cats

ik, but stack cats also use a tape of stacks AFAIK

effbot.org/zone/simple-top-down-parsing.htm

question: can i use #pragma once?

That's about as meaningfull as asking "Can I use if(x == 2) without knwoing what your code is

even if it's a non-standard thingy

@Downgoat Martin says it isn’t.

It isn't perfect solution but until SE addresses some of our site-specific requests (i.e. never) it's best solution imo for now

> Only $99. Buy It.

> $99

clearly a very affordable product

In file included from D:/LPSC/src/tokenizer.cxx:3:0:
D:/LPSC/inc/tokenizer.hxx:19:19: error: invalid declarator before 'tokenize'
 std::queue<Token> tokenize(wchar_t *code);
                   ^

wat

@TùxCräftîñg you're probably missing a semicolon somewhere

wat is cxx

ah ye i am stupid

@Downgoat the civilised extension of C++ files

what is wrong with cpp?

It's very obviously .cpp

@quartata I can't tell if joke or not :|

@Downgoat That was in reply to his message, you ninjad me

Contrary to popular belief, the proper file extension is not .cpp, it is actually .py.

^

@DanTheMan s/py/cheddar/

@DanTheMan s/py/neo

u dont need the last / with vim

@Downgoat Why not .ched?

ched is ambiguous with "chad"

Then how about .chedd?

nah. that's half-way between golfy and verbose

@Downgoat ugh 7-char extension

if you're not gonna make it golfy just make it verbose anyway

MS-DOS will not like

^ to all MS-DOS users

@TùxCräftîñg I'm sure all the MS-DOS users will be furious.

MS-DOS and CBM BASIC are the best OSes

if u dont like .cheddar pls suggest alternative 3-char long ASCII extension

chd

che

cdr

@TùxCräftîñg taken

.chdr would also be good.

@TùxCräftîñg taken

@DanTheMan that looks ugly imo

Does anyone know these two comic characters?

uhhh... afs

Idea: .ches

.chddr?

.chez?

.gcr (Goat CheddaR)

@Downgoat *.clf

(Cheddar Language File)

.c

^ Taken.

even better: .ಠ_ಠ

No unicode

or alternatively .STFU

@TùxCräftîñg i am liking this one

.WTF

What if there was a programming language where the program was encoded in the filename extension?

@flawr taken

@Downgoat .SUX

taken

@Downgoat :D:D:D

Aren't probably all of them already taken?

.cheddaristhebestlanguageinthewholeworld

@DanTheMan hello.print.Hello, World!.

seems legit

.cheddartheprogramminglanguagenotthecheese

.chedar

@zyabin101 ambiguious with a propietary format used by cheddar-producing machines

.chder

@Downgoat .thisisasourcefileforthelanguagecheddarbutthisextensionisoverlylongloremipsumdo‌​lokistop

@Downgoat ;_;

@DanTheMan TIL this is 3-char long

*.csf

(Cheddar Source File)

ambiguous with computer science file

.;_;

.chdr

;-;

^^ already suggested

@Downgoat *.cpl (Cheddar Programming Language)

Wait, that's taken by Windows control panel applets.

.cpf Cheddar program file

@Downgoat .chz (short form of cheese)

@TùxCräftîñg this is best suggestion so far

.cex Cheddar executable

@TùxCräftîñg susceptible to typo

rofl

.rofl

@Downgoat Literally anything is susceptible to typos.

@Maltysen taken by Quill's cheddar naming convension

.cp Cheddar program

@Downgoat wait seriously?

.( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@DanTheMan yes but this is like 1.5 keyboard keys away from typo

.dot

.CHEDDAR: Cheddar Hates Extensions; Downgoat Doesn't Appreciate Reality

@Geobits .ಠ_ಠ

@Geobits ... that is what was proposed so long ago

now we are just going in a loop

what's next chd?

idea: .ch1

@Downgoat that's the joke >_>

@Downgoat how about just .ch

@Maltysen .taken

@Maltysen ambiguous with Cheddar Hater

.dg

> posts challenge right after adding to Jelly

@Downgoat .nch (Not a Cheddar Hater)

@flawr ambigous with Downgoose

.egt (Evil Gaot)

You must be trolling at this point

@TùxCräftîñg ;_; y u sai dis eivl pengiun

@quartata yes. I am going with .cheddar

In the two Cheddar programs I have written I actually used .ches

@Downgoat .no (No oN)

@quartata :O you have written cheddar program??

i use .txt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

lol

i could allow multiple fiel exntesion

@Downgoat file extensions are just convention

it doesn't really matter

^^\^

@Downgoat If by Cheddar program you mean Hello World and Fibonacci then yes

@Maltysen the way cheddar's module system is designed they actually do matter

ಠ_ಠ

@Downgoat oh, like python?

I think this was back in 0.3 or something

@Maltysen no way cheddar's module system is no where as bad as python :P

heh

@Downgoat that's what python does though

cheddar module system is different

kinda like Java kinda like JS

python package system is... meh

Does it make sense to have a hyperbolic and toroidal field? How would that work?

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Question: I don't have cable ties. Is it good idea to table wires together?

@Downgoat rubber bands or tape works well

Some love for a matl answer? My Matlab answer gets all the votes even though it is way longer.

</shamefulselfpromition>

@flawr A) FGITW B) MATL is just shorter version of MATLAB AFAIK so I don't tend to upvote it

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^ this is not real rectangle

@Downgoat Nope, MATL is written in Matlab, but it is an entirely different language.

It's stack based for one

@flawr wait wat. so it's not like Pyth/Python?

this is new info

@Downgoat I don't know Pyth

Also Pyth is not like what you're describing either

Pyth has many many more built-ins than Python

but it compile to python

Generally writing Python code and porting it to Pyth will not be as short as the "pyth-onic" way

@Downgoat Well it does have some similarities, but the whole stack/clipboard/memory/function design is lightyears away.

@TùxCräftîñg Neoscript compiles to JS

ye

Would you say they're the same and it doesn't deserve upvotes?

no

OK.

@quartata that doesn't make it any more interesting too me. Code-golf is not about who can write the first answer in language with most-built-ins, it's who can abuse quirks and features of the language and use crazy tricks to squeeze out the most bytes.

Sure you might feel a different way and that's OK too

@Downgoat I'd reply to this but something is happening

This is happening again and it turns out last time I didn't have my headphones

I'm hearing an incredibly loud PC buzzer noise

Definitely a message

by aliens?

...and it stopped

this is probably aliens

What is this

ninja'd

This is definitely either BIOS failure or aliens

Leaning towards aliens

@quartata try tightening usb cable

yeah the latter is more probable

Last I checked USB cables can't cause my buzzer to start making the same noise it does when it's run out of battery and is about to hibernate

halp how I doz binary modulo/division?

OK. I think it's stopped.

As I was saying....

@muddyfish (`0b${a}`/`0b${b}`).toString(2) in JS

@Downgoat This is perfectly valid but it's definitely a different point from "Pyth == Python"

@Downgoat I meant with bitshift operators and stuff only

All I was trying to say was that they aren't really the same

Also this happened yesterday and I didn't notice:

> Member for 1 year

I don't have the badge yet though...

woo!

One year though? Yeesh.

babby's first post

Speaking of time wasted on PPCG. I should be approaching 500 consecutive days in a month or so :D

In[14] = f[1] = 1;
f[n]=1+f[n-1];
Echo[f[10]];
>> f[10]

wat

@quartata I did my first Pyth answer in that challenge

I remember being petrified when I posted it because the challenge was a week old and I had no idea whether there were rules about bumping challenges

All I knew was that this wasn't SO

which is more than what most new users know apparently

TIL i need to use N[expr] to evaluate the expression

wolfram language is stupid

N is used to evaluate a symbolic expression to a certain precision

You shouldn't need it in this case though

Try dropping the Echo[

Well yeah.

But most other functions won't need that

It's because it's better to keep a sine symbolic

Avoids floating point error among other advantages

@BetaDecay I know you said you'll add details but I have no clue what the output has to do with the input for your new sandbox post.

@ETHproductions you here?

...I guess I asked my question earlier at a bad time...

@El'endiaStarman I think toroidal and hyperbolic geometries are different things?

@NewSandboxedPosts Can u explain some more?

@El'endiaStarman What was it about?

Yes, I'm playing Baseball GM. :3

@El'endiaStarman possibly relevant: math.stackexchange.com/q/1888727/50421

Which is part of Zen GM, a series of online single-player sport management games, which don't suck.

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ how do i plot a thing in wolfram language

wait i think i found

ArrayPlot[{11,911,112,666}]

wait i think it timed out

@flawr Is it possible to have a playing field that is both hyperbolic and toroidal?

What exactly do you mean by hyperbolic?

@El'endiaStarman I didn't see it, what was it?

@El'endiaStarman this?

@flawr Hmm, mostly the sense of having more space than usual, so to speak.

@ISP ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ

@quartata Look two messages up. :P

Oh, woopps

Hmm

@flawr To put it another way, in a game with continuous movement through a space, one can normally reach at most pi r squared area for a given travel distance. Hyperbolic geometry means you can reach more area than that.

f[1]=1;
f[n]=n+1;

f[1] output 1 but f[2] output f[2] (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

Likewise, toroidal geometry means that if you move beyond the boundaries of the world, you reappear on the other side (roughly). It seems to me initially that these two geometries are not mutually exclusive, just from the given definitions.

@MartinEnder It's kind of mapping the coordinates from the trigonal grid (in the input, there will be points plotted on it) to a 3d cartesian grid

@El'endiaStarman This isn't my field, but I think that there is no hyperbolic metric on the torus (I think if you "go around" the torus to your starting point, you will find that the metric cannot be both "expanded" as hyperbolic space demands and also the same as when you started)

You could probably attach a hyperbolic third dimension to a flat toroid, though

question: how to repeat a list in mathematica

I don't know for sure, because I've barely done anything with hyperbolic space, so I'll stop speculating for now unless I think of a better argument

@El'endiaStarman What prevents you from cutting a "circle" or a "square" out of a hyperbolic surface and "gluing" the opposing sides together?

@EricTressler It doesn't have to be a strict torus. Part of my question is whether one can tweak the concept of a torus to get the desired attributes.

@TùxCräftîñg List_Repeat[list, number]

@Downgoat hi

@TùxCräftîñg Depends a bit. Is your list in a variable? is it a constant? is it a function parameter?

a Range

that just defers my question to the parameter of Range

well, you could take S^1 x the poincare disc

@El'endiaStarman no idea if relevant

it makes a difference whether you have Range@5, Range@x or Range@#.

@flawr Two things mostly, I think. One is seamlessness, and the other is whether it's really hyperbolic.

the parameter of range is a constant

Although if you have a range the easiest thing is probably to get a larger range and use modulo

e.g. Mod[Range@15,5,1] instead of, say, Table[##&@@Range@5,3]

@Downgoat Why, do you need me for something?

@flawr I think your metric would be discontinuous on the boundary

you could do it as a space, for sure, but what you end up with isn't nice

halp how i install talkd

@ETHproductions So I have been working on a toolsjs overhaul meaning it can now be used to select modules and put together a project on which you can start on. Though A) I have no idea what modules to add B) idk how to make an effective search to filter through modules. I'm working in this branch so if you have time and could help on it, that would be cool :3

Pet peeve: "I'm working in this branch" when the project only has one branch ;P

>_> shit I meant trpo

Is there an online webpage for it yet?

no but i have screenshots

k

@Downgoat fuzzy filter?

idk wat that is and too lazy to google

ex: github.com/mattyork/fuzzy

My old algorithm just check for matches between search terms and the module name, the module's tags, the module's description, etc. then gave the ones with the best match

(with name and tag matches being worth more than description matches, etc.)

literally the most useful builtin i ever seen :P

@TùxCräftîñg checkout MandlebrotSetPlot, it come close

wat it dont have a builtin to smulate a register machine ಠ_ಠ

but it have one to plot the mandelbrot set ಠ_ಠ

Chat challenge: figure out how to stitch a finite number of heptagons (more than two) edge-to-edge such that there are at least three heptagons around every vertex and each edge is shared by exactly two distinct heptagons. Alternatively, do this for four hexagons around a vertex. (cc @flawr and @quartata)

Chat mega challenge

Brb, getting loads of 50 pence coins

I wonder if that would be a suitable Math.SE question (reworded appropriately, of course).

Probably.

School starts tomorrow yay

School star... nevermind I don't got to school anymore

@El'endiaStarman Do the n-gons have to be flat?

@flawr I'm not sure how that would make a difference. At least, topologically, there isn't a difference, right?

does the above look good?

@El'endiaStarman lets try

CMC: Roll the Dice: 1d29. Count the number of rolls to 11.

@El'endiaStarman heptagons = 7-gons

right

Yes.

@Downgoat Looks pretty good. The + and i icons should be the same width tho (and obviously don't use that description :P)

@Downgoat What's that for?

BTW, I'm scared of your graphic design skills

@BetaDecay Tools.js.

@BetaDecay ;_; is it that bad?

@ETHproductions :P yeah, that description is just for testing

@El'endiaStarman seems to be impossible

@Downgoat And for Lodash: «Lodash is a dash for low goats.» :-P

@zyabin101 fq;O29

(if I understood your question correctly)

its how many time do i roll till the d29 says 11, right?

@Downgoat It's beautiful ;_;

@Maltysen Yeah.

That's the question.

@zyabin101 pyth.herokuapp.com/?code=fq%3BO29&debug=0 then

pls hapl how to flexbox

parent is expanding to child height

even when I explicitly specify flex: 1 0 auto

@El'endiaStarman I'm trying to apply eulers/descartes formula for planar graphs here.

@flawr Hmm, interesting tactic. That's the V - E + F = 2 formula, right?

Yep

For the 7-gon case: We have certainly V-E+F=2, Then if you look at each vertex: V=3*F/7

Why do you think a solution would necessarily be planar?

or V <= 3*F/7

doh

I was trying to think of something convex-ish

New CMC: Roll the Dice: 1d71, roll until two consecutive rolls match. Count number of rolls till that.

For instance, 15th roll is 50. 16th roll is 50, too. Finish and return 16.

@zyabin101 pyth.herokuapp.com/?code=fq~NO71N&debug=0

one of the coolest uses of post-assign i have done yet