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3:00 PM
Okay, now ask your favorite lang: What is pi?
 
PS C:\Tools\Scripts\golfing> [math]::PI
3.14159265358979
 
e^pi -pi = 20
 
Python: import math; print math.pi
 
@orlp Hm, all right
I'll benchmark it for myself then
 
JS: Math.PI
> 3.141592653589793
 
3:01 PM
3.14159265359
 
M.P does the same in Japt
 
use Math::Trig;
pi;
 
for now JS have the most decimals
 
Knows 10 digits after comma, and fower digits behind JS. :3
Speaking of pi: there are nice programs to compute pi to large amounts.
 
Unless I increase the precision
 
3:03 PM
@TùxCräftîñg Mathematica: π
 
PS C:\Tools\Scripts\golfing> "{0:R}"-f[math]::PI
3.1415926535897931
 
@Sp3000 Nice one!
 
in Beep Boop Maggot, 15 secs ago, by ETHbot
Pi is 'ReferenceError: pi is not defined'.
 
And as Mathematica knows pi exactly, Mma is the winner :D
 
@ETHproductions Well, you just broke math.
 
3:04 PM
Dammit, I found a great library that's better than nltk but it's Python 2 only
 
Port it :P
 
It's huge
Someone tried but the last time the fork was updated was 2 years ago
 
$ echo "#include <math.h>
#include <stdio.h>
int main(){printf(\"%f\",M_PI);}"|gcc -x c - -o pi && ./pi
3.141593
$ grep PI /usr/include/math.h
# define M_PI           3.14159265358979323846  /* pi */
wat
 
?
 
program outputs 3.141593 but declaration is 3.14159265358979323846
oh ok fixed
$ echo "#include <math.h>
#include <stdio.h>
int main(){printf(\"%.15f\",M_PI);}"|gcc -x c - -o pi && ./pi
3.141592653589793
kinda
whatever
 
3:09 PM
float is a 32-bit number
try with a double (64-bit)
 
It's just that %f has only 6 digits by default
It has nothing to do with the type
 
@quartata yeah figured it
 
ah i tought it can be a precision problem
 
@TùxCräftîñg nope doesnt work, borks after 16 digits
oh thats the precision right
 
Do challenge creators need to explicitly restrict the use of built-ins for a challenge
 
in Beep Boop Maggot, 35 secs ago, by Laff-O-Tron
@ETHbot And be what is I .
 
@Lynn Little nitpick: I think the official term is section, not slice.
 
@Poke IIRC, the general consensus is "built-ins are allowed because they highlight the different strengths that different languages have"
 
@Poke Builtins are allowed by default
 
3:31 PM
The consensus used to be in favour of banning builtins by default but it's since moved into neutral territory
 
It seems like built-ins are more likely to be banned for harder challenges
 
Two votes till death of my new challenge. ;_;
 
And more likely to be allowed for easier ones
@zyabin101 yeah I saw that. It doesn't make any sense to me, it has nothing to do with the turtle challenge
 
Yeah.
Now say it in the comments, with more reasoning why it has nothing to do with the turtle challenge. :3
 
if you want to get sad about the future
 
3:35 PM
The sad part is that the reporting on The Newsroom is usually better than actual news.
 
i like watching fox
it makes me feel like nothing's wrong
 
@zyabin101 I'm kinda curious who actually is voting to close it as a dupe. If it does get closed, you'll have my vote to reopen it.
 
Okai :3
 
@betseg How is that possible? Their whole MO seems to be using big scary graphics :P
 
The one who thinks it's a dupe is Nathaniel.
aaaaah, rate limiting is contagious
 
3:40 PM
@TimmyD it's Nathaniel, mbomb, and Erik the golfer
Can you not see the review history?
 
@DJMcMayhem Ah, didn't think to look there. Good call.
 
Where does it show that? (as in where do I access this "review history"?)
 
Huh, I didn't know that existed :P
 
I watch the review queue like a hawk cause I'm trying to get the reviewer badge
Iirc I only need 18 more
 
3:44 PM
Oh, I had the page half-screened so "history" was cut off - no wonder I didn't see it :P
 
Nope, 17
 
I rarely ever check the review queue because every time I do it's empty :P
 
@Sp3000 Same.
 
Try SO instead? :P
 
Eh, no thanks :)
 
3:46 PM
Hahaha
 
(not that I even have sufficient rep on SO)
 
SO is really useful, but I really dislike the culture
Nothing about it makes me want to contribute to the site. Not even rep really
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@TimmyD I guess this makes sense but if I'm writing a challenge i'd prefer seeing a cool golfed solution rather than a built-in/library invocation (unless it's on the scale of built-ins to identify goats in pictures)
I guess it depends on the type of challenge
 
Yeah. Something like the prime catalog makes sense to allow built-ins
 
4:18 PM
Okay now, I want to play seeded UnNetHack.
Does anyone want to watch? :3
Thanks. I identified fower people who hate my question.
So bad, that Peter, the dupe eater, cancelled out all my hard earned work.
And I don't even get to accept the answer.
 
> Peter the dupe eater
 
@TimmyD the question is closed as dupe.
Your turn to recover it.
 
Hmm. Peter dupe-hammered it. :-/
 
@Sp3000 Thanks a lot. I was seconds away from voting before you hammered. :P
 
It's Peter who hammered it.
 
4:27 PM
Yeah, sp3000 hammer opened it
It goes both ways
 
... I didn't realise dupe unhammer was a thing :/
 
Dupe Unhammer.
 
I only meant to cast a vote :/
 
With great power apparently comes great potential for surprise.
 
4:28 PM
:D
\o/ \o/
Thanks @Sp3000 :D
 
@Sp3000 Don't worry about it. It probably would have been reopened either way. Does it need four?
 
I almost want to rehammer to undo that so I can let the community decide, but now that's going to look really weird
 
Cause I was just about to be the 4th
 
Well it might have been reopened either way, but I feel like it matters a little whether it was by hammer or by 5 votes. Or maybe I'm just overthinking it
 
Well, it was three votes and a hammer to close, and now two votes and a hammer (and a verbal third vote) to reopen.
That seems pretty "community decides"
 
4:31 PM
Well there is a reason the mjolnir exists. After enough contributions to get one, you've probably earned community trust/respect. I wouldn't overthink it.
Unless it gets reclosed, in which case it should probably go to meta
 
Good evening everyone
 
Good barely afternoon
 
Good still late morning
 
Evening?! it's hardly even lunch time!
 
Good evening part of everyone
 
4:33 PM
it's 18:33...
 
DJMcMayhem you borked the sequence XD
 
@DJMcMayhem Don't pay him any mind. IIRC, he's from Wales :P
 
Oh.
I'm from the middle of the US and even I know about the Welsh. ;-)
 
@Geobits yeah I know
 
Yeah, they're kinda like the Minnesota of the UK >_>
 
4:35 PM
I just got two new notifications in my SuperCollider MegaDropdown(c)(r)(tm), but both were wats from Zalgo. XD
 
@Geobits Seeing as how the Twin Cities is consistently ranked healthiest and best places to live, I'll take that as a compliment.
 
new xkcd
 
@TimmyD Having two (one?) decent cities doesn't salvage the whole state. I mean, c'mon, look at Florida ;)
 
Sure it does.
Name one decent city that Florida has.
 
Florida?
Adirolf?
I Rofl Ad?
 
4:42 PM
@TimmyD If you're still going by "healthy, happy", then Naples and/or Sarasota are usually ranked pretty highly there.
 
If Ad, Rol?
 
@Rust ಠ_ಠ
rust is weird
 
@zyabin101 I of Lard
 
@TùxCräftîñg brb changing name to Rust and claiming that ping
 
4:59 PM
better way to do '0'|'1'|'2'|'3'|'4'|'5'|'6'|'7'|'8'|'9' => { /* do stuff */ } in rust?
wait found
 
5:21 PM
sooo silent
 
@TùxCräftîñg best way is to drop rust and learn cheddar
 
no finally i will use ruby for my project
 
;_;
 
and ruby is better than ches because ches is interpreted and the interpreter run on node
 
5:26 PM
y u no us ched
 
so neoscript is better in perfs than cheddar because neoscript code is compiled to js and then executed
 
@TùxCräftîñg ;_________; Q_____________Q Y U SAI DIS EIVL PENGUIN
@TùxCräftîñg yea but ches is better than neoscriot
 
well it has more features :P
 
but neoscript have all the features of JS
 
5:28 PM
ajd it's being ported to C++ as we speak so it'll be super fast
@TùxCräftîñg yea but it's esolang not even real lang
so does cheddar
chdddar has node interfacing
 
wat no neoscript is real lang
~> < esolang console:log("Hello, World!") < real lang
 
Yea but syntax is esoteric ;_;
 
example?
 
a='A:[]:'Zeach n=0:[]:25console:log(a[n]*n+a:slice(n):fuse());
 
5:32 PM
y neoscript also such bad practice
 
Implicit next statement identification
 
becuz i dont see the utility of a statement separator
 
...
 
@TùxCräftîñg Done.
 
5:33 PM
Because, of course, implicit must mean esoteric.
 
but sometimes there is some problems like f((a) (b)) is not translated to f((a),(b)) to f((a)(b))
 
considering how high level it's semantics are it has clearly sacrificed readability for golfynees
 
i effectively made some golfy decisions
and finally the lack of statement separator is a Very Bad Idea™
 
6:01 PM
Is anyone here playing Rocks'n'Diamonds? :3
 
Basically an arcade, where you collect diamonds and avoid boulders.
It's editable :D
 
So it's Dig Dug, but 30 years later?
 
Nope, it's not just Dig Dug, but also Boulder Dash, Emerald Mine, Supaplex and Sokoban in one.
And on top of that, it's open source and includes a level editor. :3
 
{:type=>:Root,
 :parent=>nil,
 :childs=>
  [{:type=>:Call,
    :parent=>{...},
    :childs=>
     [{:type=>:Name, :parent=>{...}, :value=>"puts"},
      {:type=>:String, :parent=>{...}, :value=>"Hello, World!"}]}]}
ast of (puts "Hello, World!")
my parser works \o/
 
6:10 PM
\o/
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Beta DecayRound to n Sig Figs code-golf Challenge Given a number x and a number n, round number x to n significant figures and output the result. Significant figures The significant figures of a number are digits that carry meaning contributing to its measurement resolution. This includes all numbers ...

 
@Nathaniel Our accepted guideline for two challenges being duplicates is whether answers from one can be reused (competitively) on the other with little or no modification. Whether challenges bring something novel to the table is not part of that guideline. Please use downvotes for challenges you want to discourage or just ignore them if they don't think they're interesting and let those who do enjoy them. — Martin Ender ♦ 2 hours ago
Here, the right word from the mod.
In the meantime, the question will be eligible for a bounty in 18 hours. Instead of a bounty, at that time I'll accept the answer. :3
Is an edit to change inline code to code blocks okay?
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A: Output an upside-down tent

BackFromExileC#, 215 bytes string t(int N){var n=N<0;N=n?-N:N;var t=new string('_',4*N);for(int i=0;i<N;){var f=new string(i<N-1?' ':'_',2*N-1);var p=new string(' ',2*N-2*i-2);t+='\n'+new string(' ',i++)+'\\'+(n?p+'/'+f:f+'\\'+p)+'/';}return t;} There's a possibility to save some bytes when using using s=st...

 
@Geobits OK, but those aren't Minnesota.
 
@TimmyD ? You said name a decent city in Florida...
 
Yes. Therefore they don't count, because Minnesota is awesome and Florida is America's wang.
:p
And also, la la la I can't hear you
 
6:27 PM
so... no one is playing Rocks'n'Diamonds? :/
 
6:40 PM
@zyabin101 This confirms my suspicion, that if this challenge does get closed, it will be reopened almost instantly
 
It already happened
 
So, only I do play R'n'D :I
 
Research & Development is a game??
 
Nope, Rocks'n'Diamonds
 
6:51 PM
i started the download of RnD 5 minutes ago, it's still downloading
#badconnectionconfirmed
 
<root xmlns:json="...">
    <json:object>
        <json:item>
            <json:key>
                <json:string>
                    <json:quote>Yo!</json:quote>
                </json:string>
            </json:key>
            <json:value>
                <json:float>
                    0
                </json:float>
            </json:value>
        </json:item>
    </json:object>
</root>
 
it's my worst nightmare
 
@orlp PowerShell ConvertFrom-Json
 
6:55 PM
Well, at least it compresses well
 
> 9.9 Kb/s
my download speed
 
9.9 knock outs?
 
Kilo-Octals
 
Kilo octets... i have the french version of FF
 
killer octopuses
 
6:59 PM
am I the only one that hates that the standard size of a can of soda is 330ml?
it's never enough to quench your thirst =/
 
I think we somewhere had a list of the shortest brainfuck programs to produce a certain output, does anyone remember that?
 
@flawr it's the first result on google for 'shortest program brainfuck'
 
>>> a = copy.deepcopy(basestring)
>>> a is basestring
True
 
i never drink soda
 
python's pure OOP edgecases
 
7:00 PM
actually
@TùxCräftîñg well it's the same for carbonated water
beer often comes in 500ml cans though, they know what is up
 
carbonated water in can ಠ_ಠ
 
@orlp Can't find it. Remember that google shows different results for different persons
 
@flawr I also linked it
 
@orlp thanks!
 
>>> a = copy.deepcopy(basestring)
>>> a is basestring
True

python
 
7:01 PM
why is your profile pic a cute snek?
 
it's not a snek
 
?
is it a danger noodle?
 
:O:O:O:O:O:O:O RnD finally downloaded
 
or a nope rope?
 
@orlp blind worm
 
7:03 PM
@orlp Usually if I drink a soda, it's in a 20oz (~590mL) bottle. That's a good size. I agree that the 12oz cans are too small, and there are even 8oz (~235mL) cans, too!
 
@TùxCräftîñg Good! I'll publish my first level tomorrow.
 
>>> a = copy.deepcopy(basestring)
>>> a is basestring
True
is is identity
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC we know
 
@TùxCräftîñg a blind worm with two large eyes?
cmon man
 
halp how to play research & devlopment
 
7:05 PM
@TùxCräftîñg Use the arrow keys. Look in the Tutorial for more.
 
@TheNumberOne I just saw your comment on my blog, which had been sitting in the spam queue since forever. Approved.
 
The Anguis fragilis, or slow worm, is a limbless lizard native to Eurasia. It is sometimes called a blindworm. Its German name, "Blindschleiche," is derived from the Old High German plintslîcho meaning "blinding creeper", perhaps because of its lustrous scales. Slow worms are semifossorial (burrowing) lizards, spending much of the time hiding underneath objects. The skin of slow worms is smooth with scales that do not overlap one another. Like many other lizards, slow worms autotomize, meaning that they have the ability to shed their tails to escape predators. While the tail regrows, it does not...
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so they're not blind?
what a terrible name
 
@orlp nope
@orlp yep
@orlp I hope you noticed the bowtie, classy AF
 
'classy AF' is a bit of an oxymoron :P
@flawr can the blindworm bite a human?
if so it's still a danger noodle
 
7:09 PM
gtg
 
@orlp No, they are not that big
 
@Geobits sorry for the delay, but this is how you print "no":
var n=217623950511702;do{n=+(p=n[q=
"toString"](4+(2<<(2<<n>>~-(2<<2<<2
)&1^(2<<2))>>4)))}while(n==+n);n=([
m="(\"",25[q](a=7<<2),a&&m.replace(
/[(](.)/gim,"$1)")]);n.unshift((+"\
8680439")[q](a+~[~2]))&&eval(n.join
("").replace(/"/g,[]+[]))
(works on web browser only)
 
They are basically long lizards without legs.
Completely harmless.
 
@ConorO'Brien No it isn't. That's not even a coherent language :P
 
it's obfuscated, what did you expect
 
7:11 PM
No, I mean the language itself, obfuscation aside.
 
ha
haha
 
Anything that starts with var is bad :P
 
-.-
@Geobits replace it with let on ES6 browsers.
 
@Geobits Come on, C# isn't that bad.
 
That's news to me ;)
 
7:13 PM
@Geobits varGeobits
varFlorida
varAnyLanguageThatsNotPowerShell
 
FWIW, I agree that varGeobits would be bad.
 
github got a whole ton of new features today
bigggg update
also ubuntu is made by a corporation
 
7:31 PM
@BetaDecay You need to write a better documentatin of fourier
 
documentatin is the main component of the exoskeletons of bugs
 
any idea how to fix my borked fonts?
 
Looks better than regular Zalgo to me. Don't change a thing ;)
 
@MartinEnder you wanna say no documentatio, no bugs?
 
minimalist zalgo
 
7:46 PM
i emailed teslacoil for a bug in nova launcher, got a reply in 3 minutes. da best launcher eva
 
@flawr Haha what's wrong with it? I explain everything
 
@mınxomaτ mınxomaτist zalgo
 
@BetaDecay I didn't really find anything about how the memory works =)
 
@flawr In what way? Were you looking for an explanation of the accumulator or variables or something else? :)
 
@BetaDecay I assume mainly the accumulator.
> x{a}{b} If the result of a equals the value of the accumulator at x then run code b.
What is x?
 
7:51 PM
Well there's not much to it. It's a global variable and all functions use the accumulator as their only input
@flawr x is the value of the accumulator
For example, in 5+6{a}{b}, 5+6 = x
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Projects look pretty much like Pivotal Tracker :D (not necessarily a bad thing)
 
Anyway, I've got to go now
 
@BetaDecay then I think you should remove the x from x{a}{b}
because the accumulator could have set before, right?
you could have something like 1{1}{2}{2}{3}
 
@MartinEnder how so?
 
8:03 PM
if gaot eyes were on the front
user image
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@MartinEnder and how is github similar?
 
@flawr I've edited the Esolangs page. I'll change github tomorrow
 
@El'endiaStarman eh, why are you quicker than I?
 
8:15 PM
https://repl.it is down?
 
> No such app
rofl.it
 
8:28 PM
@flawr: Ahhh, I really get diagonalization now!
 
bop.it ... twist.it ... pull.it ... pass.it
 
@TimmyD Harder better faster stronger!
 
@El'endiaStarman I hope he also does a video on SVD=)
 
@TimmyD broke.it :(
 
@flawr I think he said at the end that the next video is the last one in the series, and it'll be about abstract vector spaces.
 
8:35 PM
PrincessBrideBot is now running in Beep Boop Maggot, if anyone's interested
 
@ETHproductions Does it only talk in quotes? :P
 
@mınxomaτ Oh, sad day.
 
It makes a random chain of words from the script
 
in Beep Boop Maggot, 12 secs ago, by ETHbot
@Zalgo True. You killed my father used to Florin channel, so this farm boy, All it Inigo? You're alive. I will never left eye, and Buttercup is in is, but one.
ok it's cool
 
0
Q: Counterfeit Coins on a Pointer Scale

Compynerd255You sell gold coins. Each gold coin you sell is supposed to be 1 ounce. However, you find out that one of your coin suppliers is cheating you. By alloying the gold material with something else, their coins weigh only 0.9 ounces. With a help of a pointer scale (one that shows the exact weight of a...

 
8:41 PM
in The Block, 1 hour ago, by Marky Markov
@Geobits oh, i'm not a little little little little little little little little little little little little little of the of the of the of the of the of the of the of the of the of the of the of the of the of the of the
I see I missed some great things
 
Hello
 
I'm back
After like 2 weeks :(
 
taco cat is a palindrome
 
in Beep Boop Maggot, 17 secs ago, by ETHbot
@Zalgo Mawwage.
wat
 
8:48 PM
@TimmyD brb, changing my name to something
 
15 colors
 
@mbomb007 repl.it is back up.
 
Holy pixel art
 
<:"=> this spaceship is a palindrome checker in straw
 
8:50 PM
@orlp That is gorgeous.
 
+1 to them for being on the site early enough to get "fool" as a username
 
agar.io
diep.io
slither.io
**Coming soon!** eie.io
 
there is also splix.io
 
8:54 PM
@mbomb007 And also oeaia.io.
 
You get it? ♫ Old McDonald had a farm. eie.io ♫
 
@ETHproductions Awww, I was thinking of doing exactly that earlier :/
 
There is also draw.io
That's a great site
 
Woo, Bumpy has now become my most popular challenge
 
@zyabin101 eie.io is a premium domain. Soon to auction?
 

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