The Nineteenth Byte

Nathan Merrill

03:00

what would def myfunc(a = b.prop, b = a.prop) throw when I call myfunc()?

which variable isn't fully defined?

or would you list both?

Sherlock9

@xnor Sorry that I and/or my avatar confused you on that "hook length product" answer

Hello everyone

Nathan Merrill

hi

@El'endiaStarman what about myfunc(a = static_func())? Do you evaluate the function every time the parameter isn't passed in?

Helka Homba

Someone give me a topic to do a challenge on

Nathan Merrill

Sandwiches

El'endia Starman

@NathanMerrill The error message would have whichever one is needed first.

Nathan Merrill

03:10

@El'endiaStarman oh, so a would be lazy evaluated?

El'endia Starman

@NathanMerrill I suppose that's accurate enough.

Destructible Watermelon

TIL duckduckgo has a feature to shuffle lists

O.O

it also does random

Nathan Merrill

@El'endiaStarman and how would the function example work?

Sherlock9

@HelkaHomba Have we done a challenge on the burnt pancake sorting problem?

El'endia Starman

@NathanMerrill I don't know yet.

Helka Homba

03:19

@Sherlock9 not sure

Does anyone remember if I made a challenge about a program editing it's own source code? I'm sure I did...

Like "Write a program that outputs the number of times it has been run" because each run slightly modifies the source code

Conor O'Brien

CMC: write the shortest program that produces the phrase "Do X without Y" without any of the characters in "Do X without Y"

@HelkaHomba it sounds familiar

Nathan Merrill

@HelkaHomba I remember a challenge of "you can only run this once"

Helka Homba

@NathanMerrill How did that work? (link?)

Dennis

@ConorO'Brien Jelly, 11 bytes: “øWṇ÷ÆẹẉḟẠ»

Conor O'Brien

ah, yes, string compression

Dennis

03:27

The straightforward compression had a u, but the second try worked.

Conor O'Brien

Let this Jelly answer be an example for future "Do X without Y"-challenge makers

Nathan Merrill

177

Q: Code that will only execute once

Goal The goal of this challenge is to write code that will execute once and only once. This means basically that it damages the program, script, or environment in some way. If rebooting the system allows the code to run again that is permitted. Scoring Number of votes. All assumptions must ...

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Conor O'Brien

:p nice answer, string compression is cool

Nathan Merrill

it's not necessarily a good challenge by our standards, but it's the one I was talking about :)

Helka Homba

Ah right. Thanks

Dennis

03:30

Alternatively, GolfScript, 20 bytes: golfscript.tryitonline.net/… (most unmentionable characters)

Sherlock9

Oh dear. Dennis is airing out his unmentionables

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@LeakyNun SILOS now has powerful graphical output methods :)

Conor O'Brien

there was this dude called Ray who used racial slurs all the time. when he finally died, they buried him in what is now called "Ray's Cist" </badjoke>

Helka Homba

Mini-challenge: Summarize the plot of a favorite movie/book in 29 bytes or less.

The let other people guess the title

Conor O'Brien

@HelkaHomba pplANGRYpplFINEdefendantGLTY?

oh wait 29

not 23

there we go

Sherlock9

03:39

ClowningVigilantics

Conor O'Brien

nope

Helka Homba

> Boy & tiger, big imagination.

Conor O'Brien

Calvin and Hobbes

Helka Homba

easy :P

Sherlock9

That's not a guess, that's my summary of another movie

Conor O'Brien

03:39

ah

@Sherlock9 Batman?

Sherlock9

Right, but which one?

Conor O'Brien

The Dark Night?

Sherlock9

Yep. How about "74aliens"

El'endia Starman

@ConorO'Brien Minkolang, 26 bytes: "Hs$\${mxlsyx$]"I[4-1R]$O.

Sherlock9

Or "urwiz"

DLosc

03:41

> superfamilyVSdad's#1fan&robot

Helka Homba

@ConorO'Brien Not sure. 12 angry men?

Conor O'Brien

@HelkaHomba nailed it.

El'endia Starman

@Sherlock9 Harry Potter?

> Yer a wizard, Harry!

Sherlock9

Yep :D

Helka Homba

@Sherlock9 lol!

@DLosc Incredibles

DLosc

03:42

@HelkaHomba Yep!

Sherlock9

"MarshmallowDoesNYC"

DLosc

Sherlock9

And has no one guessed my "74aliens" yet?

Destructible Watermelon

@DLosc why

El'endia Starman

@DLosc That...actually looks pretty interesting.

Looks like she has armor.

Helka Homba

03:43

@Sherlock9 Ghostbusters?

Sherlock9

Yes!

Conor O'Brien

13*3|3+5+7+11+13&!statements;

if someone gets this, I'll be proud

El'endia Starman

@ConorO'Brien Wild guess: Primer? :P

DLosc

@El'endiaStarman The style was this page from Gunnerkrigg Court.

Conor O'Brien

@El'endiaStarman never heard of it

so nupe

Sherlock9

03:45

"JournalistInvestigLastWords"

DLosc

@Sherlock9 Citizen Kane

Sherlock9

Too easy haha

DJMcMayhem

@HelkaHomba hermit tells boy "kill dad"

El'endia Starman

@DLosc Woah, I don't remember that page...

To be fair, I probably won't remember most of the pages of that comic. :P

@DJMcMayhem Star Wars.

Sherlock9

There are several xkcd pages that you guys have posted in this chat that I have no memory of reading before haha

El'endia Starman

03:46

Specifically, episode 4.

@Sherlock9 That happens to me too.

DLosc

> JewishLadyBlackDriverFriends

Conor O'Brien

> Dog not eaten but plays well.

El'endia Starman

Well, technically, Luke didn't find out that (SPOILERS!) Vader was his father until episode 5, I think? Or episode 6.

DJMcMayhem

@El'endiaStarman dammit too easy

Sherlock9

@DLosc Driving Miss Daisy, if I remember the name correctly

DJMcMayhem

03:48

@El'endiaStarman yeah, I meant 5

DLosc

@Sherlock9 Correct!

Helka Homba

"1NiceRoyalDaughter2Ungrateful" (technically a play but it's been made into movies)

Sherlock9

@ConorO'Brien Airbud, Beethoven, or one of those other crazy dog movies

Conor O'Brien

@Sherlock9 good enough

DLosc

@HelkaHomba King Lear!

Helka Homba

03:48

Yes!

Leaky Nun

@RohanJhunjhunwala ??

El'endia Starman

Well, I was gonna guess Cinderella, but I've been saved from that embarrassment... :P

And that was a different story anyway.

Helka Homba

That kinda works too

DLosc

@El'endiaStarman Royal

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@LeakyNun I added a graphical output functionality, documentation forthcoming, but it should be interesting, sorry I didn;t get to the challenge :(

El'endia Starman

03:49

@DLosc She became royalty...

Sherlock9

"MarryMeForENGThoughIDontLoveU"

Leaky Nun

@RohanJhunjhunwala can you showcase it?

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@LeakyNun currently it can draw fixed output shapes

Sample code as follows

Leaky Nun

@RohanJhunjhunwala post TIO link please

El'endia Starman

"GuyHelpsOtherGuyTalkBetter"

DJMcMayhem

03:50

"OrphanKillsUncleInFire"

Sherlock9

The King's Speech

DJMcMayhem

@El'endiaStarman the king's speech

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@LeakyNun TIO does not support graphical output... It will only function in the desktop implementation...

DJMcMayhem

Ninja

Conor O'Brien

> beggar finds unexpected magic

El'endia Starman

03:51

@DJMcMayhem I think I happened to see part of that one. No idea what its name is though.

Leaky Nun

@RohanJhunjhunwala Alright

Sherlock9

"PuckAllOfYou"

El'endia Starman

@Sherlock9 The Mighty Ducks could possibly work.

Sherlock9

Oh yeah

DJMcMayhem

@El'endiaStarman Really? The title's pretty memorable

El'endia Starman

03:51

@ConorO'Brien Aladdin.

Conor O'Brien

@El'endiaStarman yup!

Sherlock9

But no, I was thinking Shakespeare :D

Conor O'Brien

I like that movie :3

DLosc

> GirlGrannyWolfActor&Bunny

El'endia Starman

@DJMcMayhem I never saw or heard the title.

Sherlock9

03:53

"OgrePullsRescueOutOfHisAss"

Conor O'Brien

@DLosc it sounds like red riding hood :P

DLosc

@ConorO'Brien Is there a bunny in Red Riding Hood? ;^)

Sherlock9

Looney Tunes version of Red Riding Hood

El'endia Starman

"LostRoyalGirlLearnsShesQueen"

@Sherlock9 Shrek.

Sherlock9

I wanna guess Sleeping Beauty

El'endia Starman

03:54

And that's a fantastic summary.

@Sherlock9 Almost, but no.

Sherlock9

XD

Conor O'Brien

@ConorO'Brien "The 39 clues"

El'endia Starman

"FoxAndBunnySolveMystery"

Sherlock9

Zootopia

Conor O'Brien

Zootopia

damnit ninja'd

El'endia Starman

03:56

Yeah, it's hard to not give that one away immediately. :P

Sherlock9

Nobody on "74aliens", "MarryMeForENGThoughIDontLoveU", or "PuckAllOfYou"

Last one was not The Mighty Ducks

Last two are Shakespeare

Conor O'Brien

idk

El'endia Starman

I don't know Shakespeare, so...

Conor O'Brien

@Sherlock9 A Midsummer Night's Dream on the last one

if I remember where puck comes from

El'endia Starman

@El'endiaStarman Hint: Russian.

Sherlock9

03:57

Yep

Alright for the second one, I may be misremembering Richard III

Helka Homba

"EvilEnigmaCaptShanghaisWriter"

Sherlock9

@El'endiaStarman Anastasia

El'endia Starman

@Sherlock9 Bingo.

Sherlock9

And "74aliens" is Independence Day

DLosc

@Sherlock9 After looking up Looney Tunes' Red Riding Hood, I'm gonna say it doesn't fit "Actor".

Helka Homba

03:58

@Sherlock9 74?

Conor O'Brien

@DLosc wild guess, "who framed roger rabbit?" :P

Sherlock9

July 4

In American date format

Helka Homba

ohh

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba I feel like it's Rush Hour, since that's like the only Chinese movie I can think of that would fit. :P

Conor O'Brien

oh, 7/4

DLosc

03:59

@ConorO'Brien Ha! ^_^ No...

El'endia Starman

Oh, clever on the 7/4 -> 74.

Conor O'Brien

> this one dude messes shit up.

Sherlock9

Yeah, I figured that's where you guys may have got confused. Sorry :D

Helka Homba

@El'endiaStarman No. I'm using that word as a verb

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba Inception?

Conor O'Brien

03:59

@ConorO'Brien ah, that's too vague

DLosc

@HelkaHomba Is it The Third Man?

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