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4:00 PM
@TimmyD Right, it is!
 
@flawr Post it! Now I'm really curious...
 
Well it is not ready yet.
I'm still figuring out what specs make sense.
@Theo I should be a slide rule scale.
 
Does anyone happen to know where on meta it is specified that changing from the default behaviour of a compiler/interpreter requires adding extra bytes?
 
Beat me by half a second :-/
 
Thanks both :)
 
i saw some answers like "# Perl 45 + 6 (`-flags`) = 51 bytes"
 
I think TIO may be borked
 
@BusinessCat which
 
4:18 PM
Brainfuck
 
Backend appears to be fine
 
@BusinessCat It's because of the newlines in the code
 
I don't think so
 
@BusinessCat unbalanced ]
 
4:19 PM
Or does it break if you have too many or something?
 
@LeakyNun Oh yeah, just noticed
 
@LeakyNun Does Leaky Nun actually mean something?
 
I am aware of the brackets near the bottom
 
@Optimizer You have my permission. I wouldn't call it an exclusive copyright or anything, but yes you have permission :)
 
@flawr anagram of my real name
 
4:21 PM
:( I wanted an exclusive.. apart from you of course
 
What did you have in mind?
 
i was trying this and about to say not newlines brainfuck.tryitonline.net/…
@LeakyNun is ninja
 
a few things to begin with.. couple of challenges per episode
 
Oops wrong link
 
I guess it broke because of the brackets
But shouldn't it not care if it doesn't reach that point?
It prints a null byte before it reaches them
 
4:29 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

pajonkRemove first encountered elements from a list Inspired by this question on Stackoverflow. The task Let's have two lists/arrays of integers: L1 and L2 of equal length. You need to remove from L2 the first occurrence of each number and from L1 the values on the corresponding positions. Then pr...

 
@Optimizer Really? Sounds like a lot. Make some and I'll consider giving them an official endorsement :P
 
XD
 
(I'm not sure I can dictate "exclusive copyright" anyhow. It's fair use for anyone to link my videos on SE...)
 
TIL the plural of sheep is sheep
wtf English
 
Same thing for moose and fish
 
4:37 PM
+ deer
 
@HelkaHomba link - fine. but base the challenge along the story line of the episode.
 
And elk, and caribou
I'm seeing a trend
 
And shrimp
I never really thought about this until now...
 
flies?
 
No, that's flies
 
4:37 PM
@BusinessCat so the plural of canadian is canadian?
 
hahahaha
 
I am cat not moose ;_;
 
@HelkaHomba TIL
English is really weird.
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei cervines or elephines also work I think
 
> bat: pteropine
6 mins ago, by Fatalize
wtf English
 
4:43 PM
> ass: asinine
Checks out
 
> goat: caprine, hircine (smelly)
^ just mean
 
@Downgoat ^
 
in my language we just use the name of the animal
 
To be fair, I've never heard of 99% of these words
 
5:00 PM
im bored
 
> Buzzfeed, Wattpad
:(
 
Best sites on the web!!1!
 
5:05 PM
CMC: reverse a number
input will not end in 0
e.g. 345 -> 543
 
Wat iz cmc:(
 
chat mini challenge
 
@LeakyNun I assume this is to show off the obvious Brachylog r.
 
Brb gonna walk my dog
 
@quartata eh... partially
 
5:07 PM
s/p.+/yes/
 
@HelkaHomba ;_; y u do dis
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ;_; y u do dis
 
Jokes on you though because R works properly on numbers in 05AB1E too :P
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei there is difference between having hooves/golfing speech and intentionally spelling bad...
@Fatalize you can always say sheeps a lot and hope it catches on
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei solution: halp fix cheddar argument parsing :D
 
5:15 PM
@Downgoat wat's rong
 
@LeakyNun try doing ()->nil
@LeakyNun cheddar: n->("%d"%n).rev
 
@Downgoat Also, exit doesn't work
 
@LeakyNun wait wat
thats your bashes fault
nake sure to do process.stdin.setRawMode(false)
 
@Downgoat i'm on windows
 
5:24 PM
Back
 
@LeakyNun if you go into node REPL and so process.stdin.isRaw what is outputted?
idk how 2 windows
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Photoshop. Clear as day.
 
@Downgoat sorry
people said come to canada, see, im getting used to it
 
Hey I've got one day left on the "Golfing Fourier Strings" bpunty
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei it's fine, just that here is one of the few places on the internet not dominated by "hai iz me" and most of us don't want it to dissolve into that
 
5:27 PM
I don't really want 500 rep just to go to waste... :P
 
@LeakyNun CJam, 6 bytes: riAbW%
 
@BusinessCat nice
 
@El'endiaStarman the text actually says something like "Half Life: The 3 editors something something"
 
@BusinessCat Why not rW%?
 
@βετѧΛєҫαγ brb posting shit answer last minut to get half of bounty
 
5:29 PM
@FryAmTheEggman because that's cheating
 
Oh, it has to be a number?
 
@Downgoat I'd probably give you all of the bounty
 
Missed that, my bad :P
 
@βετѧΛєҫαγ :D
Can you link to question?
 
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Q: Golfing strings in Fourier

βετѧ ΛєҫαγChallenge Given a string as input, golf down the Fourier program which outputs that string. In Fourier there is no easy way to output a string: you have to go through each character code and output that as a character. Fourier The language is based upon an accumulator, a global variable which...

^
 
5:32 PM
... you disallow all most basic computing elements... how is gaot supposed to answer :/
> User Input
wat wat wat
 
Use Gaot++
 
@Downgoat it is false
 
@Downgoat Wut. I don't disallow anything...
 
@LeakyNun .___. Idk how that is supposed to work wat
 
@Downgoat when did it start to not work
can you trace back the version number?
 
5:35 PM
Oh I see, those things which are disallowed are allowed for the bounty
 
@Downgoat Can you trace when v38 is published?
 
I cleared some stuff up in an edit for gaot
 
@LeakyNun Badly golfed hexagony: hexagony.tryitonline.net/…
 
@FryAmTheEggman mirror is your friend
 
@LeakyNun that's going to be very difficult... haven't written tests for back theb
 
5:40 PM
@Downgoat ignore that
 
won't work on Linux: #include<conio.h>\nmain(c,v)**v;{printf("%d",atoi(strrev(v[1])));}
 
@Downgoat just tell me when v38 is published
 
@LeakyNun uh idk check github under releases
 
@Downgoat ok thanks
 
It was released a week ago
 
5:47 PM
@Downgoat Is there a time it worked?
I tried v20, v23, v25, v30, v38
All do not work
I try ()->1 and ()->(1) and ()->(2*2)
 
i found an anagram for my name "A Dual Urn" (i definitely didn't looked anagram sites nope i didn't i found by myself)
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei pls no
Anagrams are old
 
10/10 gaot needs typing lessons
 
Gaot can't type with hooves
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ >_> in class don't want teacher catching me
 
5:53 PM
lel kk
 
@Downgoat hey
I'm about to sleep
 
@Downgoat can someone explain
 
@LeakyNun not that I know about
@LeakyNun oh kk, g'night .o/
 
@Downgoat so it hasn't worked all the time?
but I remember creating 2^100 from convolution of 2^50
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

PhaezeCalculate an integer's Complement. I like to do my subtraction using the Complements Method but I'm really bad at figuring out the complement so I want a program to do it for me. Definition: A complement is a number to add to the original to get to the next power of 10 so for 3 the complement ...

 
5:55 PM
@LeakyNun no idts. It's really odd though it uses the same parser as arrays and those work
Though those expressions return success even enpty
 
@Downgoat that was saturday
 
@FryAmTheEggman nice
 
@Downgoat ah, we were using ->(1)
 
6:02 PM
Oops i miissed the "input will not end in 0" part
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ wat
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei #include<conio.h> \n main(c,v)**v;{printf("%s",strrev(v[1]));}
 
@LeakyNun Dammit, I was going to make V builtin
 
@DJMcMayhem eh, lol
 
i wish glibc sring.h had something like strrev()
 
6:06 PM
Instead I have to do this garbage
 
v3: #include<conio.h> \n main(c,v)**v;{puts(strrev(v[1]));}
 
@LeakyNun V, 10 bytes ^
 
alright
 
The other answer is more fun though. :)
 
just fixed a huge issue that a large client was having only on live. Turned out it was caching XP
 
Caching Windows XP, eh?
 
Must be nice to be a VC investor. You can tell people to finish 120+ page annual reports in like 5 days >.>
 
@DJMcMayhem it says something like "Half Life: 3 editors who wrote it" or the likes
:P
 
I'd be interested to survey the political leanings of skeptics.SE
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei y u use c
y u c + heddar
 
6:31 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ bcoz c iz nice
Also, i can c!
 
it's not
it's objectively not
 
Objective-C?
I've just noticed that i wrote sring :(
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Half-Life 3 confirmed.
 
6:35 PM
0
Q: What does Golf mean?

Adamawesome4What does "Code Golf" mean? Is it a language/technique? I also don't understand why this does not fit SE's "quality standards."

 
lol
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ but why ;_;
 
@El'endiaStarman it actually isn't btw
 
@NewMetaPosts pls help what is site
 
6:43 PM
is wobsite
is addicting
 
btw, why c isnt nice ;_;
 
but
everything you code is based on C in some point
everything
 
what about raw assembly
 
nobody codes that
 
6:51 PM
Sure
 
tell that to rollercoaster tycoon
 
I beg to differ
 
:[
 
@flawr this is amazing
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei wtf do you think operating systems are written in
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ C
 
6:52 PM
tiny bits yes, but mostly asm
 
=)
 
lol
nice joke
linux is 98% C and C++ github.com/torvalds/linux
 
RollerCoaster Tycoon is 99% x86 assembly
 
any other examples?
 
@Poke that's actually really cool
 
6:56 PM
btw in the rct release date lots of things were in asm
now, not
 
you need MORE? that game was THE shit
 
Tons of microcontroller stuff is still written in assembly
 
there are some golfs in assembly
 
Huh, the Quick Golf did pretty well for an unsandboxed challenge
 
7:04 PM
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei Practically the entire demoscene.
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei that looks weird because both i and g are sed flags also
so i keep seeing s/g/i/g and s/except/asm/i`
 
lol
everything you code except asm is based on C in some point
 
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Q: trying to create anagram program from think python

user58641I was making a function that recursively searches directories for files with a particular suffixes. TypeError: slice indices must be integers or None or have an index method pointing to this line: if path.endswith('.',sf)==True: l.append(path) .endswith() returns a boolean and is us...

 
That great moment when your mods manage to close a question before the main posts bot even has time to post it
 
lel
doorknob's record is like 17 seconds after posting
 
7:08 PM
the f5 king
btw, whoever designed the bot's profile picture, has done a great job.
 
@PhiNotPi u gr8 m8 i r8 u 8/8
 
@MickyT I've compiled GNU PSPP and it works. — Dennis ♦ Aug 17 '15 at 23:34
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

flawrEnumerate Irreducible Polynomials in GF(2) code-golfmathbinarypolynomialsabstract-algebra A polynomial in any finite field GF(q) of prime order q can be represented by an integral polynomial with coefficients in {0,1,2,...,q-1} by the reduction modulo q. This allows us to easily enumerate all p...

 
7:17 PM
^ opinions?
 
7:29 PM
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei ye, i meant originally
 
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Q: Curiosity killed the cat?

BoibSome people say curiosity killed the cat. Other say it was the box and poison. The RSPCA say Erwin Schrödinger needs to lose the right to own pets. With animal rights activists outside his house. The cat murderer scientist Schrödinger has finally come up with his greatest invention. A special, r...

 
@RohanJhunjhunwala congrats on 1k!
2
 
Woot! Woot!
 
hey grown up wynaut
 
7:46 PM
@NewMainPosts schrodinger y u kill cat ;_;
 
@BusinessCat some solace
 
8:04 PM
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Q: Include es6 class from external file in Node.js

Bald BanthaSay I have a file class.js: class myClass { constructor(arg){ console.log(arg); } } And I wanted to use the myClass class in another file. How would I go about this? I've tried: var myClass = require('./class.js'); But it didn't work. I've looked at module.exports but haven't found...

 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ +1 for undertale
 
@BaldBantha -1 no primary winning criterion
 
@DJMcMayhem that was actually VTC's
 
Can TIO wait for user input?
 
8:13 PM
no, iirc
 
No, it reads what's in the input box and dumps it into STDIN immediately, assuming I understood correctly.
 
Yeah, thought so. Too bad
 
Also, holy shit, vim 8 I am so ridiculously excited
I just learned about it 10 minutes ago
 
runs brew update
 
It ain't out yet
 
8:26 PM
@DJMcMayhem Does this imply some specific improvements for V?
 
@DJMcMayhem ik
 
@Zgarb Probably not, since V uses neovim
On a side note, this is hilarious: norfolkwinters.com/vim-creep
 
8:48 PM
Am I a schmuck for unity or is this ad beautiful?
 
A polynomial in any finite field GF(q) of prime order q
Well if most people can't understand the first sentence then yeah obviously
 
We've had tons of challenges with finite fields so far...
And PPCGers are not most people I think.
 
I shouldn't have to read/do other challenges to know what your challenge is about
 
The OEIS comment is quite clear, I think: binary irreducible polynomials, interpreted as binary vectors and converted to base 10.
 
8:59 PM
1. Discover that a needed open-source tool uses a non-standard HTTP User-Agent string which is blocked by corp firewall
2. File internal case to adjust corp firewall accordingly
3. Create askubuntu.com question to ask how to manually set User-Agent string for this tool
4. Find that User-Agent string is hardcoded in the tool
5. Hack on tool source code and post patch as self-answer to askubuntu question
6. Continue with work
7. Internal case stagnates for a month
8. Internal case finally gets looked at by someone in IT who understands it
 
@Downgoat PPCG design script doesn't like commas in bytecounts
 
Then define a binary irreducible polynomial using AND and XOR.
 
@Zgarb I thought about that, but then dismissed it as it is not very intuitive.
 
@DigitalTrauma lol nice
 
9:00 PM
(marked all as read a few hours ago)
 
But is anything unclear or incorrect in this challenge so far?
 
@flawr What is GF? What is (2)? What is [X]? What is irreducible? What is prime order?
 
@flawr Nothing incorrect, but I think the entire task is somewhat hard to parse.
 
I think you should take into account that most PPCG people are coders, not mathematicians. Binary vectors and boolean operations are probably seen as very intuitive.
 
9:14 PM
It is worded very differently, but functionally equivalent.
 
@LeakyNun Henceforth I will not respond to questions worded as such.
 
@TheNumberOne =..(
@TheNumberOne Why didn't you link OEIS?
Would have been easier to find...
@HelkaHomba GF(2) is the finite field of order 2, it is isomorphic to ℤ/2ℤ
And for any ring R, R[X] denotes the corresponding polynomial ring with variable X
@TheNumberOne Can you please include the OEIS link for future reference?
 
9:31 PM
Sure ;)
 
Would it make it a non-dupe if we'd switch out GF(2) with GF(3)??
 
I would think so.
 
All the bitwise operations would not apply anymore.
Or what if one would make it more genereal by providing n and q as input?
 
That would be even better.
gtg, bye
 
9:42 PM
loopy sort of kind of works now. No docs, a bug or two, and no literals, but hey!
 
Is it a golf lang?
 
Stack-based or more exotic?
 
@Zgarb priority queue based
 
Ooh, interesting.
 
@DJMcMayhem yes
@Zgarb stack is a circle. circle can rotate.
 
9:50 PM
@BaldBantha Is there a manual or somthing similar?
 
I got my submission compiler working in a real-life situation!
 
@BaldBantha Is it different from "stack-based with rotate_stack command"?
 
@flawr no, its brand new anyway
@Zgarb by rotate I mean... read the source, it would explain it better
 
@BaldBantha I'm just asking because I thought about "circular" structures every now and then, so I'd be interested to get to know it=)
 
@Syxer Y U CHANG NAME
 
9:57 PM
Okay, there's an implicit register that binary operations use, and the stack can be rotated in either direction.
I'm off to sleep now, bye.
 
string literals work now in loopy! docs next, but i'm taking a break
 
10:19 PM
@AlexA. ↓
user image
5
 
10:30 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ who was (s)he before?
 
@flawr That photoshopped?
 
@flawr @cats y u do dis to doggo ;_;
 
10:48 PM
@flawr Still confusing to those without the math knowledge. Not unclear, just inaccessible.
 
@Mego Haha, that only happened once when I was about 12.
@flawr >:O
I applaud your determination though
 
Now I need to hear this story
 

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