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9:00 PM
@aditsu Have a virtual pop-tart. (I just learned today what a pop tart is.)
 
thanks :p wasn't that discussion yesterday?
 
probably depends on the timezone.
 
Pop-Tarts transcend space and time
 
I think it was pretty much around 24h ago
 
Hmm
 
9:03 PM
can't really tell the timezone of the chat archive :/
oh, UTC
 
It's almost refreshing to see that the first day in weeks Donald Trump is not in the news headlines is the day a black American Muslim is.
 
well, that's right, about 24h ago
@HelkaHomba what do you mean he's not in the news headlines?!
 
9:17 PM
Hi. Do we include using namespace <something> and includes in byte count of C++ solutions to challenges? What if the solution is a function?
 
http://envelopes.envelopes.com/envelopes/Envelopes ← This is a good URL.
 
@vaultah yes
 
Thanks
 
@HelkaHomba That's a pointless link. a) It contains your auth token, b) Google News is different for literally everyone. Even more so, if you customized your news sources ;-)
 
9:38 PM
> At Mass. Dem. Convention, Warren Keeps Focus On Trump
> Anti-Trump Voices Amplify on Internet, With Violent Results
> The Dixie Chicks Mock Donald Trump in Concert with a Devil-Horned Photo of the Presidential Hopeful
 
I meant he's not in the "Top Stories" for me at least
 
@Lynn I apologize if this is too personal, but out of curiosity do you plan on doing physical transition and/or reassignment?
I know someone who did the former recently
 
Mmm, I’ve been on hormones for 10 months or so~
 
Is that going alright so far?
 
@mınxomaτ The zx thing? It keeps changing whenever I change the view
 
9:45 PM
Yeah, it’s going very well. I feel… a lot better about myself in every way.
 
user image
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Looks like @AlexA. has a widescreen avatar
 
haha lel
 
@Lynn That's wonderful :D
 
;v;
 
@mınxomaτ Birds need space
@Lynn I don't understand this emoticon
 
9:46 PM
A beak?
 
looks like tears of joy
 
It’s tears of joy! The v is a mouth.
 
Ohhhhh I see now haha
 
Oh hay @Lynn haven't seen you in a while.
 
Hiya
I have exams, sadly :(
Code golf is an A+++ distraction
 
9:50 PM
@Lynn I see that as a beak of a birdie
 
Valid interpretation, IMO
Except, oh no, then the birdie is sad!!
 
Need more types! strawpoll.me/10391278
 
I am: XXXX "Personality types are bullshit"
 
I submitted mine, apparently I am an "adventurer"
 
@aditsu It's just a fun little thing. I agree they shouldn't be taken too seriously.
 
@HelkaHomba if no one else is entertainer, does this mean all goats are entertainers?
 
I don't get that I'm the only ISTJ when it's supposed to be the most common type
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ಠ_ಠ you did it again. Please clone, use meaningful, commit messages, then push so you don't spam our feed with things that don't mean anything.
 
@Upgoat Oh, is that you?
...
 
@HelkaHomba Architect
 
10:01 PM
@HelkaHomba ಠ_ಠ this personality test is inaccurate
 
ouch ;_;
 
> Extreme dislike of criticism, likely to take things extremely personally
goes on to criticize ESFPs ಠ_ಠ
@Quill halp, how child_process.exec in current shell
 
Child needs snack, is hunger
 
@HelkaHomba El'endia's link earlier suggests ISTJ is very common in the population in general, but less common in the Wait But Why readership. I guess PPCG is more similar to that than to the general population.
It makes sense you would contrast with the PPCG majority since the majority are solution writers first and challenge writers second
[citation needed]
 
@HelkaHomba I'm the only ISFJ that's responded ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
10:11 PM
@AlexA. i tri taek child to beach but no fiend shell
 
The top 3 in the strawpoll are in the top 6 in the WBY survey
 
@mınxomaτ reached minute 51 … ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━━┻
 
@aditsu watch on
esp the q&a
 
Why, what's at 51 minutes?
 
fake plot twist
 
10:17 PM
essentially, "the cake is a lie"
anyway, it already gave me some ideas for some data structures to implement; I've never really done this kind of "cache-aware programming"
watching on..
 
@aditsu After you're finished, take a look at the first talk I've linked (S. Parent from Adobe). Nice implementations to look at: Boost, and Google's sparsehash (formerly "dense hash map").
 
I'm not using C++ though :p
 
Eventually you will :P
 
that will entirely depend on my decisions
I might choose to give up programming and start herding goats and llamas
 
@aditsu 10/10 great idea
 
10:26 PM
@aditsu So, herding Downgoat and Optimizer?
 
and their kin
although I prefer my goats standing upside up
 
@quartata @Upgoat TF2?
 
I am PHSB, what are you?
 
@flawr that test doesn't have all the options for the questions
 
10:34 PM
DHSC
 
@aditsu hello
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I have too much work >_>
 
@Upgoat hi, you're good :)
 
@flawr YOU ARE SACRELIGE
> You are a Conservative programmer.
The less code you write, the less chance there is of it containing a bug. You
write short and to the point code that gets the job done efficiently.
YOU ARE NOT GOLFY ENOUGH
 
> The less code you write, the less chance there is of it containing a bug
 
10:41 PM
How much golfier can it get?
 
hahahahahahaha, sure
 
@Upgoat Looks like one of our - now banned - glorious justificatiosn for code-golf.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ k
@LeakyNun I'm building for Java 5
 
@quartata don't
 
@Upgoat heh
"Yeah! I'd love a c# job! Pity I don't know any Java."
 
10:46 PM
@AlexA. Not everyone has Java 7 so
 
> Want a C# job? Too fucking bad!
4
 
@AlexA. You work here? ;-)
 
> Working your bird
...
 
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
10:48 PM
@mınxomaτ i don't get it, what do they do?
 
@Maltysen That's a random startup generator. Go here to create a new one: tiffzhang.com/startup
 
> imagining your depression.
Depressionn is a delightful depression service that makes it easy to turn your depressions into cash.
...
 
> Errorly is a dedicated error service that makes it easy to turn your errors into cash.
 
@quartata are you in TF2?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ yes give me a minute
 
10:49 PM
okay
Conor can play also, and maybe his bro
 
@mınxomaτ hahaha this is awesome
 
> WhipAss
... people like you who love whipping
2
that sounds bad
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Well, the generator is based on your browser history.
 
I was going to lenny, but decided not to lenny myself.
 
10:52 PM
@mınxomaτ roflamo
 
@mınxomaτ I literally just cleared my history.
 
I do it automatically every weekend.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ why don't you just use incognito
 
Because.
I'm lazy.
 
10:53 PM
i use it for pretty much everything, except things I need to show my parents
I'm on it right now
 
I use Chrome so I just switch to Guest mode.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ just do literally everything on it
 
will do
switches
I write this from the safety of incognito.
 
3 pings from Upgoat starting with 'halp how do'
 
10:55 PM
@Upgoat...
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ok now you can click on this link safely >_>
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Slip. Stick prongs in hand. Ahhhh.
 
halp, why does this: sed -i.bak '/^alias cheddar/d' "$1" enter infinite loop
 
kill me I hate java...
 
10:59 PM
kills Maltysen
 
@aditsu nvm that didn't help, I still have to finish nearly my entire courseload for comp sci for the year by tuesday
 
if you have any difficulty understanding how great java really is, maybe I can help :)
 
@Upgoat becuase it does
 
17 mins ago, by Alex A.
@quartata don't
 
11:02 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ because java makes me suicidal, so I didn't do it, but then I got an email yesterday about it being due on tuesday
 
22.86cm Nails #NerdBands
 
if it's not working, wrap it in another abstraction :)
@Quill haha, metric ftw!!!
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ಠ_ಠ
 
11:19 PM
at least it's sed not java
 
Ah, nothing like a midday beer tasting festival.
 
#jealous
 
@flawr DHSB!
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ What have you been looking at.... Gosh why does everyone use incognito mode?
 
Which sounds exactly like me.
 
11:29 PM
no, he was joking
 
The stupid thing about incognito mode is that you can clearly see if it has been activated.
 
@BaldBantha ...
 
^
not if you don't physically see with your eyes
 
The little slueth in the corner, yah know...
 
@Quill halp, how to detect when STDIN is piped to program. e.g. node foo.js < bar
 
11:30 PM
yeah
but not in any records
 
the old incognito new tab text used warn you about shoulder surfing
 
@Upgoat You know, there's this magical thing on the Internet called "Google."
I hear it's almost as good as Bing and Yahoo!
 
6 hours ago, by Upgoat
(I am actually outsourcing to here because people don't like it when I ask questions here, I just get lmgtfy links)
Google was the first thing I tried obviously
 
@AlexA. s/almost as good .+/avocad/
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ._.
 
11:34 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I hear it's avocad?
 
That... doesn't make any sense
 
Maybe he meant s/(?:almost as good as ).+/avocad/?
 
@quartata which would do the same thing
 
roasted
 
@AlexA. Surely the grand city you live in has something going on :P
 
@Geobits Well, we have the Washington Brewer's Festival the Sunday after next
 
(found via... Google)
 
-1 for not using Bing
 
11:37 PM
@AlexA. Oh, see that sounds good. This was a local thing with a bunch of homebrewers to raise money for the Humane Society.
 
@AlexA. I tried that once and it nailed me to itself. Very painful.
 
@Geobits That sounds fantastic! I should suggest that to the Seattle Humane Society...
 
@AlexA. What's a Bing?
 
@HelkaHomba You know, Chandler?
 
@Doorknob What is fd and what is a tty ._.
 
11:38 PM
Ah yes
 
@HelkaHomba It's like Google if Google was absolute trash
 
@Upgoat click on the link and read
 
@Upgoat Did you click the link?
 
@AlexA. It was good fun. Lots of terrible beers, and some decent ones too.
 
@Upgoat fd is "Fuck, dawg." tty is "Thank thank you."
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11:39 PM
> fd <number> A numeric file descriptor
 
@Maltysen bah, I'm slower than everyone today :P
 
They had adoptable pets roaming around, too. Obviously they weren't doing adoption paperwork there though.
 
@Upgoat wow... very helpful
 
What's so unhelpful about that?
 
@VTCAKAVSMoACE Why??? Just WHYYYY
@Doorknob sock confirmed
 
11:40 PM
@Upgoat now you just have to google their file object
 
Anyone want to help test the bot in

  Beep Boop Bingus Bin

VITRIFICATION ORDER (1947) CONDEMNED DO NOT ENTER
 
hint: stdin is always fd 0
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Did you see the one uploaded just after?
 
@Doorknob It doesn't describe what it is, what to set it too, all I know is what fd stands for
 
11:42 PM
6 hours ago, by Upgoat
(I am actually outsourcing to here because people don't like it when I ask questions here, I just get lmgtfy links)
thanks for being helpful and not condescending :/
 
2 mins ago, by Doorknob
hint: stdin is always fd 0
 
You're quite frankly telling people to do your work for you instead of researching it yourself. What do you expect?
3
 
I even saved you the effort of Googling it.
 
@VTCAKAVSMoACE yes
10/10
 
Because they forgot to make you die in creative to void. c:
 
11:45 PM
@Geobits I'm asking because I can't figure it out, I don't know the exact search terms for what < and that stuff is called. I tried my best but I came up with nothing so I asked :/
 
@VTCAKAVSMoACE :D
 
I just realized that I have the f-word twice on the starboard >_>
 
@Geobits (i starred this because it was funny not because I agree)
 
#settingagoodexample
3
 
@Upgoat My point was that reiterating that particular quote make it appear that you just don't want to do it yourself. Whether that's your actual motive is irrelevant. Every time you quote it, it makes people less likely to help imo.
 
11:46 PM
@Upgoat File descriptor is a search term. TTY is a search term. I even linked to the docs for isatty and gave you the fd for stdin.
 
@AlexA. Well fuck
6
 
@Geobits I'm quoting it because it's not helpful just linking to google, it's just rude.
 
@Upgoat And I'm trying to explain that it isn't helping. But anyway.
 
@Geobits Meanwhile thanks for ya'll helping me achieve 32k rep, mainly by asking you to solve problems for me... ;)
 
After doing sufficient research, I recommend phrasing your question in here like, "Hey I've been searching around the Internet and haven't been able to find a good explanation of how to do X. Could anyone help me understand it?" That indicates that you've done prior research and just need a hand.
If someone asked something like that and I was able to provide assistance I totally would
 
11:49 PM
@HelkaHomba lol, i have one challenge posed that way. Most of my rep comes from things I wouldn't expect.
 
But if my description of fd.tty is any indication, I have no idea how I could help :P
 
@Upgoat I mean, Doorknob did explain exactly how to do it...
 
@Geobits Watch this get more stars than "ok seriously stop abusing chat stars"
 
Ahem, misquote. :P
 
Ahem, I'm too lazy to go search for it and I find that I care too little :P
 
11:51 PM
@AlexA. Hopefully not. Only time will tell.
 
@Doorknob no 'chat'?
 
I'm within epsilon of the correct quote, for some epsilon...
 
@HelkaHomba yeah :P
 
> ok...
 
Does anyone here use visual studion code?
 
11:52 PM
@AlexA. "Julia is my least favorite language" —Alex A.
 
@BaldBantha Not if I can help it.
 
@Doorknob Hey, at least what I said captured the gist of the original message :P
Everyone knows that my favorite languages are JavaScript and literal feces
 
@AlexA. Pedantry knows no bounds.
3
 
@AlexA. You're within the Magna Carta for some epsilon :P
 
@Doorknob Words to live by
 
11:53 PM
@AlexA. What's the difference between the two? :P
 
If there was an appreciable difference I wouldn't have listed them together :P
 
@Geobits what problems have you found with it
 
@HelkaHomba Is that one of Christopher Columbus' sailboats? Like the Pantso, the Magna Carta, and the Burrito a la Carte?
2
 
Ugh, I need food before I go out drinking tonight. Stupid caloric requirements.
 
@Geobits Beer festival by day, out drinking by night. This is a lifestyle I could get behind.
3
 
11:55 PM
@BaldBantha I'm just not a fan overall. For languages I use, there are better tools.
 
@AlexA. i know that one of the ships had a ~ over it
 
@AlexA. Yes. Summer is an interesting time for me.
 
@AlexA. You mean the Pinta, Santa Maria and Nina (I had to look up the last one :/)
 
9 mins ago, by Alex A.
#settingagoodexample
 
Underage drinking is a thing everyone should do. —Helka Homba, 2016
 
11:56 PM
 
@AlexA. really did he say that?
 
Of course not
 
^^ Magna Carta apparently
 
@AlexA. Ha, they were carding everyone at the festival. Even people obviously 60+. It was hilarious watching their reactions.
 
@HelkaHomba Did you not know what the Magna Carta is?
 
11:57 PM
@AlexA. well, I'm sold
 
Blah blah 1215, setting the example for limits on monarchy, etc.
 
Apr 3 at 1:36, by Alex A.
Isn't that like a dance or a Spanish ship or something
 
>_>
 
ROASTE
D
 
@HelkaHomba that last one has a ~
niña
 
11:58 PM
@AlexA. Sure, vaguely :3
 
Yeah, should be over the second n.
 
  ~
nina
 
I saw that
 
You saw nothing
In my defense, counting is hard
 
True. I'm not sure I could count all the way to seven.
 
11:59 PM
One... two... five!
 
@Geobits 1, 3, 4, 2, 5, 7
 

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