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Upgoat

23:00

Geobits

elif ant == Color.GRAY {

mınxomaτ

.titanic {
    float: none;
}

Geobits

So it's your fault!

Upgoat

@mınxomaτ plagiarism! :P

mınxomaτ

@Upgoat There are at least 10 different pictures / screenshots with that joke.

Geobits

23:04

Adding proper indentation counts as a derivative work, not plagiarism :P

Upgoat

@Geobits depends if you consider spaces "proper indentation"

mınxomaτ

.iceberg {
    position: fixed;
}

Geobits

@Upgoat I don't usually, but spaces are far better than none.

I've seen way too much non-indented css to like it.

mınxomaτ

#kim-kardashian {
    padding-bottom: 9999px;
}

(I'll stop now)

Upgoat

.fat-girl {
  width: 200%;
  overflow: visible;
}

mınxomaτ

23:08

That's unimaginative.

Adnan

#downgoat {
    transform: rotate(180deg);
}

Geobits

@Downgoat github.com/DownGoat

Upgoat

Jan 26 at 4:57, by Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

I found an imposter on Github D:

Geobits

Dunno. His join date there is in 2012. Maybe you're the imposter.

Upgoat

he is a cat though...

mınxomaτ

23:11

That avatar though

Geobits

@Upgoat No, that's what a cat looks like through goat eyes.

Marky told me.

Upgoat

Geobits

(oh by the way, he doesn't eat the whole goat. he also uses them for parts)

Upgoat

such activity

@Geobits ??

quartata

Ugh, I should really get around to uploading some of the junk on my SVN to Github

mınxomaτ

23:14

I like the accidental musical note in my contrib graph.

Upgoat

@mınxomaτ woah, cool

Alex A.

@quartata If it's on SVN, it isn't worth keeping. :P

Upgoat

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ

mınxomaτ

he's right, though

Upgoat

TypeError: wat
    at new CheddarLexer (/home/ubuntu/workspace/Cheddar/dist/tokenizer/tok/lex.js:23:26)
    at CheddarCustomLexer (/home/ubuntu/workspace/Cheddar/dist/tokenizer/parsers/custom.js:19:18)
    at CheddarTypedLiteral.exec (/home/ubuntu/workspace/Cheddar/dist/tokenizer/parsers/typed.js:57:103)
    at CheddarExpressionTokenAlpha.grammar (/home/ubuntu/workspace/Cheddar/dist/tokenizer/tok/lex.js:172:41)
    at CheddarExpressionTokenAlpha.exec (/home/ubuntu/workspace/Cheddar/dist/tokenizer/parsers/expr.js:133:25)

How the fuck did the people who made JS think this would be helpful when debugging... >_>

Geobits

23:30

What, being able to see a trace?

Upgoat

@Geobits yeah, except it just shows the trace of the individual files rather than each function at least.

The debugger also doesn't work, it goes step by step through every. single. step. the interpreter does internallly

Geobits

I assumed since you were debugging the interpreter, that made sense...

Upgoat

@Geobits I was debugging the Cheddar interpreter not the JS interpreter

Alex A.

The JS interpreter is beyond salvation

Geobits

In my experience, when the stack trace starts showing the language internals, it's a good sign you did something bad. Either way, the trace seems helpful to narrowing it down :/

However, since I try my hardest to not have to debug js, I'll defer to the experts here.

Upgoat

23:37

@Geobits >_>

Geobits

@Upgoat The key is to use it as little as possible. Not at all, preferably ;)

Upgoat

@Geobits yeah :/ but what other language to use then?

Geobits

To write an interpreter for Cheddar? Just about anything, I guess.

Alex A.

The best plan of action would be to start over from scratch using a different implementation language

Geobits

Then once you're nearly done, we'll convince you that you chose the wrong one and you can do it again.

mınxomaτ

23:40

Any language that has stable parser libs. C++, C#. God, even Java.

Upgoat

@Geobits :/ not really... Ruby and Perl have unreadable syntax (imo), Python is just plain shit, and C/C++ is too low level

Java is horribly verbose

mınxomaτ

How is "C++ too low level"?

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

I still don't understand why you hate python so much.

Upgoat

@mınxomaτ i dont wanna have to deal with all that pointer shit.

mınxomaτ

Basically any toy language ever is written in C or C++.

Upgoat

23:42

@mınxomaτ ಠ_ಠ Cheddar is not a toy language

it is a cheese language

mınxomaτ

And you get to use awesome parser libraries.

and you can compile to JS any time you want.

Upgoat

@mınxomaτ They are awesome parser libraries for JS!

They just are really slow

Geobits

And you get to learn pointers. Which is probably a good thing ;)

mınxomaτ

@Upgoat No there aren't. At least not nearly as good as for C/++.

Upgoat

@Geobits I know pointers, they just are more difficult to deal with then not

@mınxomaτ jison is like lex&yacc for JS though

mınxomaτ

23:45

@Upgoat is like != multiple decades of stable development

quartata

@Upgoat D?

Geobits

You could do it in Actionscript.

Upgoat

@quartata is this some sort of dirty joke

quartata

@Upgoat No...

Upgoat

@Geobits oh my god no

quartata

23:46

@Geobits ActionScript is actually somehow worse than JS. I don't even want to talk about it

mınxomaτ

E.g. Recall is written in C and run as JS client-side. Also, the Formula Compiler is written in C++ (> 8k LOC) and runs as JS (and it compiles realtime).

Geobits

@quartata It really is that bad, isn't it? I don't know what they were thinking.

Upgoat

JavaScript + Flash = aaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

mınxomaτ

@Geobits cough Silverlight cough

quartata

I don't even know if the problem is just ecmascript or what

Alex A.

23:47

D looks like an interesting language

Geobits

I never had the... pleasure... of working with Silverlight.

mınxomaτ

Or those horrible Java applets.

God.

Alex A.

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ To be fair, Python 2 is kind of garbage. 3 is fine though.

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

I don't hate python 2, but you're definitely right, python 3 is much better.

Upgoat

@AlexA. s/2 //;s/3/JavaScript/

Alex A.

23:48

Nope

quartata

@Upgoat One minute you say JavaScript is terrible the next you say it's great

make up your mind yeesh

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@Upgoat s/python 2/javascript; s/3/python

Geobits

@quartata He's still reeling from the sudden rotation.

quartata

Ah, gotcha.

Upgoat

._.

Geobits

23:50

Oh my. That's much bigger than I was expecting.

(yes... twss, lenny, whatever)

quartata

Is that Ditto?

Geobits

@quartata Correct :)

quartata

I've always loved Ditto and not just because it makes it easy to do the Mew glitch

Smeargle is cool too.

Geobits

I tend not to use it except as a brood mare. Always feel slightly bad about it, but dammit I need eggs.

Alex A.

I don't know what that means but I take it you're really into eggs?

quartata

23:54

Pokemon eggs

Geobits

It means ditto is not picky about mating with various species.

at all

quartata

Well, it won't breed with itself

Geobits

True, but I just figured that stemmed from some sort of self-hate. The poor thing really should get help.

quartata

Yeah, I'd expect one to be pretty psychotic if they could shapeshift into anything

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Is it possible to put a strikethrough in a title on SE?

quartata

23:57

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ no

Upgoat

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ yeah

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

I don't know who to believe!

quartata

@Upgoat no

Geobits

Is it likely it will get edited out even if it worked? ;)

quartata

Markdown doesn't render in titles nor do HTML tags

Upgoat

23:57

@quartata yeah, you can

Luis Mendo

@delete-me-here Hey, why delete?

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