The Nineteenth Byte

quartata

02:00

named function is (define func (lambda ...

i.e assigning it

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

so LISP doesn't?

quartata

I don't know Common Lisp but I think it works the same way

LISP refers to several languages (scheme, common lisp, clojure...)

Ooh, I don't think AppleScript has lambdas. Lemme check

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I really like Julia

quartata

Darn it has those handler things. Keep forgetting

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

- = +
3 - 4 # 7

@QPaysTaxes ಠ_ಠ

quartata

02:05

@QPaysTaxes You can't do that in C period IIRC

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

seriously bai

Geobits

Seriously?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

actually seriously

Geobits

You're not proving yourself right, you know.

:P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

seriously?

actually bai

Geobits

02:09

I hope C doesn't stand for Conor. That would be rude.

quartata

OK, I don't think vimscript has anonymous functions.

Finally found one

@QPaysTaxes oi C is great

Geobits

To be fair, computers in general are pretty stupid.

quartata

Nor should it. Variable amount args can be omitted

Oh you mean function overloading in general.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

‮.naem I tahw C uoy fi p: C gnisu eb t'ndluohs uoy ebyaM

quartata

Just use malloc

also never use scanf ever

All right.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

02:17

‮dekrow ti fi ees ot tnaw I ,siht rats ^^^^^^^

quartata

Buffer overflow heaven

getline

plus atoi or whatever

fgets is also buffer overflow heaven

Oh well if you're doing that that's fine. I assumed you wanted a whole line

El'endia Starman

@quartata Blitz 2D/3D doesn't have anonymous functions.

quartata

fgetc is probably more your speed then

C has anonymous functions in a really weird way

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

obai

quartata

They basically look like this (gnu c only):

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

02:25

@QPaysTaxes no I need to write essay

okai

don't ping me :3

Geobits

nobody pinged him last time o_O

quartata

({ int func(void) { ... }; return &func; })

It's not supposed to be used like this.

El'endia Starman

Geobits

That's an old ass-cartoon.

quartata

Basically ({ ... }) is a GNU C only thing that returns the value of the block

I forget what it's called

No, it's a separate standard that gcc can support with an option

The former I believe

night

Geobits

02:34

I'm seriously gonna start mentally substituting 'Conor' any time I see 'C' in here.

Quill

02:48

Just had burritos for lunch... my mouth burns with the fire of a thousand suns

quartata

Easy solution: drink a glass of milk and don't use any salsa next time

Geobits

@Quill If it's that hot, just wait. Eventually your mouth won't be the only body part on fire :P

Helka Homba

@Quill are you by chance a Frasier fan?

Quill

03:04

By chance, I have absolutely no idea what Frasier is

actually wait, I watched one episode once where they go to a lodge or something

Helka Homba

A critically acclaimed sitcom en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frasier

Geobits

Ah, tossed salad and scrambled eggs.

Quill

Apparently I watched episode 14 of season 5

Helka Homba

It convinced me my dream residence is a condo in a high rise building

That and visiting the high-rise condo my great aunt and uncle have in Seattle :D

Geobits

I've lived 9th floor (of a 9-floor building), but that doesn't really compare :/

I did like it a lot though.

Alex A.

03:46

@HelkaHomba I don't know what to do with that tossed salad and scrambled eggs

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

04:15

Because it has utf8 enabled doesn't mean you have to use utf8 >_>

Helka Homba

hmm?

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba They're calling again

Helka Homba

It's uncannily quiet in here

Alex A.

I was thinking the same.

Quill

Cause we're all talking in the other room

Alex A.

04:28

I'm also disappointed by your lack of reaction to my recital of the Frasier theme song, @Helka.

@Quill There is no other room.

Quill

@AlexA. There's always the other room

Helka Homba

@AlexA. Scrambled eggs all over my face

Alex A.

gfycat.com/FancyAmusedBighornedsheep

Alex A.

04:44

Kelsey Grammer - Tossed Salads and Scrambled Eggs (Frasier Soundtrack)

►

Ashwin Gupta

05:03

@Downgoat well its floating my goat ATM, so I guess I'll stick w/ it.

Anonymous

05:24

My favorite thing is when the JS on SE randomly fails to load

Anonymous

@AlexA. There are two meanings of "tossed salad", and I think my horrible mind went to the wrong one

Alex A.

:|

Ashwin Gupta

@Mego Interesting, would you care to enlighten me, whats the wrong one? Cuz the only one I know is the literal meaning: tossed salad. Yum... (sorta)

Alex A.

The wrong one isn't appropriate for chat

I refer you to Urban Dictionary for enlightenment in this case

Anonymous

^

Anonymous

05:36

Or, you know, don't look it up and enjoy your blissful ignorance

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Anonymous

06:17

Good news, everyone! Actually is on PyPI!

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Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

06:39

@Mego That's really cool!

Congrats

Quill

@Mego Congrats

Anonymous

It's not as cool as it seems - anyone can add a project to PyPI

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@zyabin101 Hey, I just needed to make the repo, alright?

Anonymous

And it's less cool because I borked the package somehow

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

@Mego Oh jeez I wish I had listened to you.

2

That was wonderful advice that I didn't take.

Anonymous

06:54

Why is packaging so hard

Optimizer

its hard so that you get nice avocad juic

after tri for 30 minut

Jester Tran

07:09

What are some examples of functions that take in functions and spit out a real number?

Sp3000

@JesterTran I(g) = integral g(x) dx from 0 to infinity?

Jester Tran

@Sp3000 thx, anymore?

Sp3000

What's this for?

Jester Tran

@Sp3000 curiosity

Sp3000

Well, I'm sure you could come up with a lot of random ones yourself :P

zyabin101

07:14

@Mego Maybe you could release Seriously v1 on PyPI?

Jester Tran

:29577931 thinking about it now and yeah..

    func(g) = g'(1)

Sp3000

Yeah, that works

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VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Mego Seriously?

zyabin101

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Actually!

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Fixed.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

07:24

@Geobits Try Greenland.

Anonymous

Setuptools sucks

Anonymous

It had to go and make everything complicated

Anonymous

And Travis isn't working which makes me feel naked

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Mego Tell him to get a job, then. ;)

Anonymous

Travis's status page is lying... Nothing is working >_<

VTCAKAVSMoACE

07:35

@BaldBantha Java was my first properly studied lang (and might still technically be the only one in which I have formal training).

zyabin101

@Mego Why not release v1 when Travis comes to work? ;) Not everyone has Py3 on their PC's, so why not? ;)

Jester Tran

which stack has programming competition questions?

zyabin101

Why Travis badges don't one box?

Anonymous

What do you mean?

Anonymous

Also, does anybody have any feedback for my sandboxed challenge?

zyabin101

07:41

@Mego Build erroring >_>

And I don't know the cause >_>

@Mego Your surname is Rowe? @_@

Pro-tip: don't reveal to Travis your real name.

Quill

Hey @Downgoat, whenever you've got the time, I've got a few questions about tokenizers you might be able to help me with

zyabin101

@Mego Apparently, pip can't find the file requirements.txt.

Either it is too blind to see this file, or ~~the file doesn't exist in the specified location~~ (the file does).

travis-ci.org/Mego/Seriously/jobs/129344880#L143

Jester Tran

@Mego apologies, Mego. I answered the question impulsively and ignored my periphery

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Mego Me likey.

zyabin101

@Mego Do it.

Timwi

07:50

Hello

Anonymous

It's essentially that Befunge integer challenge, but on steroids :P

zyabin101

@Timwi Hello!

\o/

Timwi

Been a while since I been here

zyabin101

ಠ_ಠ to pip

Anonymous

Oh man now I'm gonna get a bunch of emails from Travis about failed builds >_<

zyabin101

07:53

@Mego Can't unsubscribe?

If not, only [ci skip] may help. IDK what else.

Timwi

So uhm yeah, hi. I actually came here to show off my newest esolang — is it permitted to just link to it here like a shameless, glaring advert?

Quill

Sure

Anonymous

Sure

Anonymous

Damn ninjas

Timwi

Okie, here goes. esolangs.org/wiki/Efghij

Anonymous

07:56

Is your head sore from smashing it against the keyboard for that name?

Anonymous

That "language" makes less sense to me than the Russian Stack Overflow site, and I don't speak Russian.

Timwi

Yeah, well, it’s a joke. :-p

Although I believe the function declaration is, in fact, a correct implementation of factorial

Anonymous

It's... not clear that it's a joke :P

Anonymous

It looks more like the ravings of a madman

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Timwi Nice. I might use this.

Timwi

08:01

@VTCAKAVSMoACE: Oh phew! Someone with a positive reaction! :) — Please send pictures (or upload to the wiki) if you do :)

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Timwi \o/

Do we make plugins with new objects?

(a true OOP indeed)

Timwi

Well, for now, I think we need to put some basic functionality in... addition, subtraction, increment and division are some obvious gaps (my idea for division was a pair of scissors)

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Timwi Yessssss

You should make an AutoCAD-reading implementation of this in Esoteric IDE.

Timwi

Anyway, I’m going to (very carefully) deconstruct this... construct now

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Someone should! But I don’t think it’ll be me :)

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Well, alrighty then.

Also, when I finish Laura, how do I make a plugin for Esoteric IDE?

Timwi

08:06

You’ll have to implement it in Esoteric IDE directly. It doesn’t have a dynamic plugin system (yet).

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Damn. I guess I'll make a pull req for it, then?

Timwi

We can do that together if you like, assuming that Laura is reasonably straight-forward to implement (it’s not on esolangs.org, got a link?)

Yeah, you can do that

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Timwi It's not finished yet.

Timwi

Well, nor is efghij :)

VTCAKAVSMoACE

It's going to be nightmarish to implement. xD

Timwi

08:08

Hm, that doesn’t sound promising :)

More nightmarish than Funciton?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Timwi Link?

Timwi

Well, esolangs.org/wiki/Funciton :)

flawr

VTCAKAVSMoACE

I mean, it's going to be OOP with weird scoping patterns and its own byte code.

Timwi

Oh.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

08:09

Yeah. :P

Timwi

That’s a different kind of nightmarish. That’s laborious and potentially repetitive...

Are you sure you want to implement it in Esoteric IDE? It sounds like something that could use a proper IDE :)

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Yeah - it goes from source Laura to compiled Laura, which is then parsed at half-byte intervals.

Quill

hey there @ArtOfCode

ArtOfCode

@quartata looking sweet. Anything I need to do?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Timwi I'm planning on making an Eclipse plugin for it (because I'm writing it in Java for now).

Timwi

08:12

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Sounds like a good plan :)

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Ugh. This is going to be horrible.

Timwi

Do you expect it to be less horrible in Esoteric IDE? Esoteric IDE is just a standard textbox with a very very basic debugger.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

The thing is, I think people here will be doing Laura byte code golfing more than they'll be doing source code golfing.

@Timwi Doing both, though, because then I get experience in other languages.

(I focus mostly on Java for now)

Lol, maybe making a Laura interpreter in Laura would be fun. ;)

Timwi

Heh.

I already considered writing a Funciton interpreter in Funciton. ... And I decided not to. It would be a huge waste of time :) (I already wrote a Brainfuck interpreter in it and that was horrible)

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Timwi If I get Laura to work the way I want it to, I don't think it'll be too difficult. Not even from a coding convention standpoint.

Timwi

08:17

From what you say about it, it doesn’t sound very esoteric (which isn’t a bad thing)

Anonymous

For the love of goats, Travis, do your bleeping job and run the test suite already

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Anonymous

Anyone else see endless spinning and nothing else?

Timwi

@Mego Yes

Anonymous

Grr

Anonymous

It usually takes like 30 seconds to run a build

Anonymous

08:28

Now it's just not doing anything at all

ArtOfCode

08:45

Running for 20 scs

Builds green.

Anonymous

It actually took half an hour to start running :P

Anonymous

I don't remember if I pushed the working version to pypi

Anonymous

Oh well I'm gonna assume that I did

Anonymous

If pip3 install seriously doesn't work, ping me, and I'll fix it in the morning

Quill

@mego -bash: pip3: command not found

pls fix

Anonymous

08:53

sudo apt-get install python3

Anonymous

Or whatever the package name is

Quill

brew install python3

ArtOfCode

09:04

@Quill tut you mac people, honestly

Quill

many tears were shed in support

Sherlock9

@Mego Man, I really, really need to hurry up with that documentation, huh? :D

ArtOfCode

@Quill might want sudo apt-get install python-pip... If not, Google it

Sherlock9

Congrats, Mego!

Quill

> mac

ArtOfCode

09:07

in that case, um... no

Actually you probably just want pip rather than pip3. Run pip --version to check it runs with Python 3

Quill

pip 8.1.2 from /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages (python 2.7)

nope

ArtOfCode

get a better os ;)

Quill

get a better attitude :(

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Sherlock9

Sorry for the following wall of text but I was running pip install seriously from cmder and the following errors popped up

λ pip install seriously
Collecting seriously
Downloading seriously-2.0.5-py3-none-any.whl
Collecting readline (from seriously)
Downloading readline-6.2.4.1.tar.gz (2.3MB)
6% |# | 143kB 65kB/s eta 0:00:33Exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "d:\python\python35\lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\requests\packages\urllib3\response.py", line 226, in _error_catcher
yield
File "d:\python\python35\lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\requests\packages\urllib3\response.py", line 301, in read

ArtOfCode

:P try googling it... "mac install pip3" or something

@Sherlock9 have you got a Linux system available? Looks like one of those modules explicitly doesn't work on windows

Quill

09:11

I did, I'm just lazy

@Mego can just have my <3 without me installing it

Sherlock9

@ArtOfCode I do have Linux. I'll get to it some other time as I don't want to restart my computer right now

ArtOfCode

Can confirm it works on a Linux system, just run it without any issues. sudo -H pip install seriously

Quill

09:31

github.com/The-Quill/Adynata/commit/…

VTCAKAVSMoACE

09:57

@Quill brew update

brew upgrade

Or brew install pip

It'll ask you to install python, then you can do brew install python3 (I think).

orlp

10:10

@ArtOfCode why sudo

python -m pip install --user seriously

or python3

Quill

@Downgoat did you get istanbul working?

ArtOfCode

@orlp because I like running with plain pip rather than Python modules, so I add sudo to prevent errors.

Quill

in The late night show with JavaScript, 26 secs ago, by Marvin

[ Marvin ] Command <3 not recognised.

My bot doesn't understand love

orlp

10:26

@ArtOfCode that doesn't have anything to do with it

pip install --user seriously

by the way, python -m pip is more robust

because it does not rely on pip being in the path, or being the pip for the correct version of Python

ArtOfCode

@orlp why the user switch? I want a global install.

orlp

@ArtOfCode you don't

ArtOfCode

Sure it's more robust, but I know that pip is the correct pip.

@orlp oh yes I do

orlp

keep in mind that the system python is not yours to mess with

it's an OS component

ArtOfCode

Aye, but adding a module won't affect the operation of things that don't import it.

orlp

10:29

@ArtOfCode it's still important to remember, because upgrading a pre-installed package is also a no-go

something a lot more subtle

ArtOfCode

Only if it's not backwards compatible, which the vast majority are.

Mars Ultor

10:55

But the OS probably uses Python2, so if you install on Python3 it should be okay

@quartata You know Git comes with an inbuilt GUI, right?

@QPaysTaxes It's called git citool (Also comes with Git, so you almost certainly have it on windows as well)

Sherlock9

How do you force pip to redownload a module?

Never mind, found it: stackoverflow.com/questions/9510474/removing-pips-cache

zyabin101

11:16

@Quill :(

Mars Ultor

@QPaysTaxes :P

@QPaysTaxes You use c9 that often?

Doorknob

11:30

Even more embarrassingly, it's longer than the CJam solution. — Peter Taylor 3 hours ago

ouch :P

Mars Ultor

@QPaysTaxes wat why

Can't you just use a text editor?

@QPaysTaxes Email them?

Or store them in the cloud

@QPaysTaxes In an attachment

@QPaysTaxes Use your own email?

Wow

On the other hand, my school blocks GitHub/C9

I should probably feel lucky that my school has a laptop program then

@QPaysTaxes You mean server-level

@QPaysTaxes Usually all traffic in schools goes through the school server, which filters many sites

At my school, laptops also have their own site-blocking software installed

@QPaysTaxes Really?

@QPaysTaxes At my school it's just a hidden network

Quill

11:52

At my government school we had a filter installed inside each computer, a filter on the local network, a filter on the corporate network and a filter on the pre-ISP

and I got around all four :D

At a computer level (for school laptop specific sites they didn't want you accessing even on home networks), at a local network level (for school specific sites), at a corporate level (for specific user types in general), and pre-ISP (for everyone)

The computer level was done with Registry Editor (turned off for students, but easy script to reenable anyway) and the local network level was done with the worst VBS script I've ever seen in my life

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