The Nineteenth Byte

Martin Büttner

17:04

is the leaper challenge too far removed from chess to use the chess tag?

quartata

@MartinBüttner I thought we already had a challenge about leapers?

Martin Büttner

just, "given a leaper, print an ASCII art representation of where it can go"

TimmyD

(－‸ლ) ... user can't understand why email address orders@ can't be used exclusively for their 12-person branch office (out of a 4500-user company)

FryAmTheEggman

@quartata That's... odd logic. Don't we hundreds of questions about numbers? :P

quartata

Well I don't know what this precise challenge is but I remember this:

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Q: Fairy chess "leaper" movement patterns

A leaper is a category of fairy chess piece which moves by "jumping." A normal knight is a (1,2)-leaper, meaning each move involves moving a distance of 1 square in an orthogonal direction and 2 squares in the perpendicular direction. .o.o. o...o ..N.. o...o .o.o. There are many different lea...

Whoa, lots of close votes in the review queue.

Ah, it's an underhanded purge

Martin Büttner

17:06

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Seeking Leapers code-golfgridgraphs I recently got a really weird irregular chess board. It's squares are all over the place and not even all connected. At least they're still laid out on a regular grid. I want to adapt the chess rules to be able to play on the board, but to start with, I need ...

TimmyD

@quartata The purge is underhanded, or underhanded is being purged?

quartata

@TimmyD The latter :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Sp3000 Cool! I started making a regex lang a while ago, then I saw retina and gave up :P

I'm thinking of rebooting it

Martin Büttner

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ knowing you it'll probably be based on JS's regex flavour? if so, don't bother :P

(disclaimer: I hate the ECMAScript regex flavour)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Ah. Why?

And only loosely :P

Martin Büttner

17:08

it's extremely limited

Sp3000

The only thing ECMAScript has going for it is (?R), really

Martin Büttner

uh, what?

since when is that?

Sp3000

... that's PCRE isn't it

Martin Büttner

yes

Sp3000

I get the two mixed up :/

nvm nothing going for it!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

17:09

lel

R`<()>_`
E

That's balanced parens

Martin Büttner

that looks a bit like Lua's flavour, and I think that kind of balancing syntax is fairly limited

quartata

@MartinBüttner Interesting

Did you actually get a chess board like that? :P

Martin Büttner

the only thing the ES flavour has going for it is [] and [^] (where the former is only useful in golfing and the latter is only necessary because it doesn't even have a bloody s modifier)

@quartata plot twist: I didn't

the challenge was inspired by this mathematica post: mathematica.stackexchange.com/q/112745/2305

(which I didn't link to because it would be a bit misleading for this challenge)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

brb restarting cpu

quartata

@MartinBüttner Ooh, I see.

zyabin101

17:11

quartata now hates me Q_Q_____

This means the entire community has made up a plan against me ಥ_ಥ

Martin Büttner

so chess tag or not :D

Sp3000

Might as well, for searching

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

chess!

^^

Sp3000

I mean, if I were to write a leaper challenge and wanted to know what existed already...

(Of course, a fairy-chess tag would be better, but that's probably going too far)

FryAmTheEggman

Would everything tagged chess also be tagged board-game and game?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

17:13

nope

this is not a game

Martin Büttner

^

if it's about actual chess rules or something related directly to the game, I'd use the tag even if it wasn't about playing the game

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

alright, I can die happy now that I've been caret'd by a mod :D

quartata

@MartinBüttner Yeah, definitely chess tag.

Martin Büttner

but this is really just taking a single concept from chess out of context

quartata

I know, but it's thematically related. I think that warrants it.

Nathan Merrill

17:14

you know, if I were to redesign webscripting, I'd totally make it so that webpages had their own "assembly" language that you could compile to

poi830

yeah it doesnt really have to do with chess other than the idea of pieces moving on a board

quartata

@NathanMerrill asm.js

Nathan Merrill

that doesn't count. the base language is still js

everything just compiles to JS

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

the world is js -- accept it

Nathan Merrill

which is much too high level language

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

17:16

JS is written in C# right?

Or some C deriv

"C(.*)"

Martin Büttner

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ummm

Nathan Merrill

depends on who's implementing JS

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@MartinBüttner ?

oh

meh

Martin Büttner

Unless your browser runs on .NET, that seems unlikely (and even then...)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh well

quartata

17:18

@poi830 We have a electrical-engineering tag IIRC, and most of the challenges are just about the relating equations

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Q: Seeking Leapers

I recently got a really weird irregular chess board. It's squares are all over the place and not even all connected. At least they're still laid out on a regular grid. I want to adapt the chess rules to be able to play on the board, but to start with, I need a piece that can actually go anywhere ...

code-golf grid graphs chess

quartata

I don't think that we should be "minimalist" with tags on challenges

Nathan Merrill

neither should we be maximalists :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

use ALL the tags!

FryAmTheEggman

I have no idea how to tag things, I only ever retag basic stuff because I'm too likely to make a mistake with anything fancier than string or number :P

quartata

17:20

heh

Nathan Merrill

but if 1 tag is a strict subset of another tag, then I'd argue it is a synonym

Martin Büttner

@NathanMerrill let's make everything a synonym of math then ;)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ :D

quartata

:P

Nathan Merrill

they aren't tag subsets

Martin Büttner

17:21

surely things like "number", "arithmetic", "number-theory", "graphs", "primes" etc are

Nathan Merrill

sure, they're conceptual subsets, but not tag subsets

Martin Büttner

they could be... I'd usually apply as many reasonably applicable tags as possible prioritising the more specific ones when I run out of slots

so if a challenge is about maths and there aren't a lot of good tags for it, then math is fine, although I'd omit it when all of [number], [sequence], [number-theory] and [primes] are applicable (even though [math] would still apply)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

but if you don't have a fourth tag (like, no others apply), should one keep it on?

Nathan Merrill

so math simply says "there's math in this problem"?

isn't that a bit too broad for a tag?

Martin Büttner

possibly

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

17:24

CAUTION! THIS PROBLEM HAS MATH! BEWARE!

Martin Büttner

it's just an example though, there will always be some hierarchical tags

Nathan Merrill

I guess technically, code-golf is a child of code-challenge, but since we disallow both tags, there isn't a problem

really good example: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/30292/knot-or-not

the challenge has nothing to do with math (in the specification)

Martin Büttner

yeah that could do with better tags

FryAmTheEggman

It should probably be tagged string, at least...

Martin Büttner

I was gonna say ascii-art

hm, we don't have a topology tag

Nathan Merrill

17:27

aren't ascii-art challenges about generating ascii-art?

Martin Büttner

I also use them for if the input is an ASCII art representation

Nathan Merrill

hmmm, I'll edit the tag then

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

My challenge is a good example of math unrelated to most other tags.

Martin Büttner

[geometry] might be a good idea for that as well, as long as we don't have [topology]

Nathan Merrill

because it says: This challenge involves creating pictures using text characters as the paint

quartata

17:28

@MartinBüttner Really?

Martin Büttner

@NathanMerrill then maybe that should be fixed :P

Nathan Merrill

I said I'd edit it :)

its in the queue

Martin Büttner

oh I overlooked that message

@NathanMerrill approved

Nathan Merrill

oooh, this is a good subset question

isn't every kolmogorov-complexity question an ascii-art question?

Sp3000

I wouldn't say Fizz Buzz is ASCII-art...

FryAmTheEggman

17:31

Plenty are just about text, like the Rickroll one.

Nathan Merrill

oooh, you're right

I forgot about the "art" part

oh, the number tag is super broad too

Martin Büttner

definitely

Nathan Merrill

I think it has its place when dealing with stuff like constants

aka, generate pi

FryAmTheEggman

I'd say it often makes sense with generating something from a set of numbers (like primes), too, but I'm never sure with stuff like that :P

Nathan Merrill

I'd argue for sequence in that case

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

17:35

What if the result is a number?

Martin Büttner

I use [number][sequence] to find OEIS-style challenges all the time

but maybe introducing [integer] or even [integer-sequence] for that would be better

Nathan Merrill

finding a particular element of a sequence is still a sequence challenge IMO

FryAmTheEggman

But what if they aren't necessarily most logically a sequence? Sure, numbers can always be ordered in some way, but IMO sequence makes more sense for something like Fibonacci numbers rather than, say, palindromic numbers, which aren't constructively related to each other.

Martin Büttner

@NathanMerrill yeah but I think [sequence] is also used for some challenges about dealing with sequences as input, which might be a misuse of the tag and could do with [array-manipulation] instead

FryAmTheEggman

Also I guess "check if a number has property X" style questions is more what I mean.

Nathan Merrill

17:38

@FryAmTheEggman then yeah, that'd be a number challenge

Martin Büttner

I've also got a few more retagging projects on my list

I guess now that I'm done with [balanced-string] I could start on the next one

zyabin101

@MartinBüttner Which projects?

Nathan Merrill

so, going back, what if we removed math, and for each of them, either pick the particular field its in, and for problems related to equations, add a equation tag?

Martin Büttner

@NathanMerrill or [algebra]?

Nathan Merrill

do we have a differentiation tag?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

17:42

I got a great idea! things ;P

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Martin Büttner

@NathanMerrill do we have [calculus]?

Sp3000

If we did, calculus would be better

Nathan Merrill

yep

only 13 challenges

Martin Büttner

@zyabin101 a few ones I want to add ([color(s)], [polyomino], [compiler]/[transpiler], [interactive]) ... a few I want to reorganise, e.g. I'd like to split [subsequence] into [substring] and [subsequence]. go through music/audio and make sure they're used correctly, maybe introduce specific tags for input or output like we have for graphics. also get rid of some obsolete tags.

Nathan Merrill

so, algebra then calculus

well, I'm going to go on a tagging spree with math, unless you think I should meta post it

Martin Büttner

17:44

you definitely should

it's our most-used non-challenge type tag

also, when you say "tagging spree" I hope you mean "3 at a time and then wait for 12 hours"

it might be easier to ask SE to burninate the tag and then go through untagged challenges

Nathan Merrill

@MartinBüttner no, faster than that, but asking what to do on less-obvious scenarios

zyabin101

math is a very question-heavy tag. One does not simply want to burninate it.

I think.

Martin Büttner

@NathanMerrill faster than that would just flood the entire front page

Nathan Merrill

@MartinBüttner we'd miss some that way (if it has other tags, but not the actual field of math it belongs to)

oh, I didn't think about the front page

Rainbolt

@zyabin101 one != SE

Nathan Merrill

17:49

should I make the post along the lines of "lets burninate the tag with these steps", or have the answers give the steps?

Martin Büttner

maybe make the question something like "that [math] tag is way too broad, should we get rid of it, and if so how can we tag some of the [math] challenges more appropriately?" then put your own opinion and suggested course of action in an answer

quartata

You know, I hate to say this, but if it ain't broke don't fix it. I really don't see anything wrong with the tag system as is

math seems fine to me.

Martin Büttner

it just seems like a fairly useless tag

Nathan Merrill

ooooh, we've got an arithmetic.

quartata

If we're gonna burninate anything it should be number

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

17:54

^

HEY DEES CHALENJ HAZ NUMAHS

quartata

WARNING: NUMBERS

FryAmTheEggman

I do think number has a place, but it's current wording is rather bad, I agree. I think if your challenge has to do with properties of numbers it makes sense, and I don't know what other tag to use (except math... :P )

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@MartinBüttner For a simple test case for the leaper challenge, add some two-square boards on which there is only one solution.

Martin Büttner

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I've got two of those, but I can add more if you want.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh, I didn't see those :P

Ah, under misc.

Higher-leaper boards would be nice

quartata

17:57

I feel like we already have three general tags to cover most instances of number: sequence, number-theory and arithmetic

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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Q: The Ideal Question

What makes the ideal question? Perhaps it is merely the abstraction of a profound thought and the initialization of a dream, a hope, a thought, a (… 5,024.2 characters omitted). Therefore, I propose that we find such a factor to quantify questions. I propose also that this factor be called QF, or...

code-golf math number

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what would this be?

Nathan Merrill

arithmetic

quartata

arithmetic

ninja'd

Nathan Merrill

unless we rename that to algebra

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ok cool

El'endia Starman

18:01

Frank Schlimbach - Destiny ( Epic, Orchestral, Cinematic, Fantasy Music )

►

Optimizer

oh god.. did Science fund Pokemon XY? Ash says the line "Science is so amazing" 3-4 times an episode.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o_O

El'endia Starman

^^^ This is probably gonna end up in my Fantastic Epic Songs playlist. :P

zyabin101

quartata hates me right now.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman I have to listen to it now :D

@zyabin101 D: why?

zyabin101

18:02

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Because he wanted to make something I didn't want D:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@zyabin101 I wouldn't quite qualify that as "hate" :P

zyabin101

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ He currently fully ignores me, and I did say sorry but he didn't forgive.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh

:( @quartata

quartata

What?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

are you ignoring zyabin?

Helka Homba

18:04

Isn't that his business?

quartata

Yes, because I didn't want to keep getting pings from the Unipants room.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh, I see.

@HelkaHomba Yeah, sorry. It just makes me sad to see others sad. sighs

Martin Büttner

@NathanMerrill I think [arithmetic] and [algebra] are a bit different. to me the former implies that you're just doing a basic calculation of an expression (using basic arithmetic) whereas the latter involves solving equations.

quartata

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I concur. (not in the mood for ^s today :P)

Xanderhall

18:06

Hello!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Hi!

I'm glad you made your way here ^_^

Xanderhall

Thanks ^_^

El'endia Starman

Are there any 2x2 magic squares where each number is a square number and all numbers are distinct?

Xanderhall

I was wishing one day that this place had a chat, before I found out it did. XD

El'endia Starman

(Context: youtube.com/watch?v=aOT_bG-vWyg)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

18:11

@Xanderhall You're in luck! This is one of the most active chatrooms on the network!

flawr

@Xanderhall I hope you saw the slogan of this room!

Xanderhall

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Awesome!

flawr

Oh no, I forgot it is a new one.

Xanderhall

@flawr I did indeed! XD

FryAmTheEggman

@El'endiaStarman From what I know about magic squares you can't have a 2x2 one with all distinct values, without any other restrictions? (Haven't watched video)

flawr

18:12

@Xanderhall The old one was Abandon all work, ye who enter here (almost Dante)

El'endia Starman

@FryAmTheEggman Hmm, is that right? I'll go look that up.

Ah, sure enough. Drat.

Xanderhall

@flawr Both equally awesome :P

FryAmTheEggman

@El'endiaStarman I mean, it seems pretty clear: x+y != x+z unless y=z :P

El'endia Starman

3x3 is an unsolved problem, and I had been hoping to base a challenge on it... :P

flawr

@FryAmTheEggman You don't know javascript.

Nathan Merrill

18:14

@MartinBüttner afaik, we've got 1 "solve the algebraic equation"

(technically, 2, but the second is poorly defined and heavily downvoted)

FryAmTheEggman

Oh lemme fix that for JS: x+y !================ x+z unless y=========z

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El'endia Starman

@FryAmTheEggman True true, curse my laziness... :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@FryAmTheEggman ouch

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Q: Lets remove [tag:math]!

The math tag is incredibly broad. Its description says: The challenge involves mathematics. Also consider using more specific tags: [number] [number-theory] [arithmetic] [combinatorics] [graphs] [geometry] [field-theory]. After going over the tag, there seem to be three distinct types of ques...

discussion tags

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Q: Why am I getting this error when trying to run code?

I keep getting the error Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Users/liamdocherty/Documents/stage4.py", line 24, in <module> File=open(FileName,'r') FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'Class2_results.csv' in python editor when trying to run my program, why is this? ...

python

Doorknob

18:19

@NewMainPosts 19-second close :)

quartata

What would ==== do in JS if it was added? Hmm..

Sherlock9

@El'endiaStarman #parkersquare

flawr

Check for exact identity.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Probaly deep equal

El'endia Starman

Nerf Team Fortress

►

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quartata

18:20

@Doorknob ROASTE
D

El'endia Starman

^^ For anyone who likes nerf and/or TF2. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman I got scared for a second XD

flawr

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Number of equal sign tells how deep the comparision should go.

FryAmTheEggman

It would check if the == operators were implemented in the same way for both arguments.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

"No, no more nerfs!"

Timwi

18:21

Haven’t been here in a while, looks like things have changed? :-p

quartata

@FryAmTheEggman I think that's basically ===

El'endia Starman

@Sherlock9 "I don't want to name it a Parker square!" ... *gets named Parker square*

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Jan 14 at 23:50, by feersum

To do an N-level-deep comparison in Javascript, one must use N+3 equals signs.

SAMURAID

Sherlock9

@El'endiaStarman I want that Parker Square shirt

@quartata double the fun of == operators, checking if types are equal only if they can group the types together. Floats and ints. Lists and tuples. Strings and bytes. That sort of thing

Xanderhall

I have a quick newbie question for those present. I've tried researching around the site, but I can't quite get the answer I'm looking for. If I have an answer in the same language as someone else that's shorter, should I still post it? Or is it generally considered better form to comment and help improve someone else's answer?

flawr

18:22

Well what about the ≡≡≡ operator?

Timwi

@flawr I see a new esolang coming up already

quartata

That's what === does in essence. @Sherlock9

El'endia Starman

@Xanderhall If it's significantly shorter and/or uses a different algorithm, post it. Otherwise, it's more generally accepted to comment with your improvement.

flawr

@Xanderhall If your answer is close to another answer, I'd comment, but if you use a totally new approach (well I'd probably still comment it) I would say it is acceptable to post as a new answer!

zyabin101

Just to note: People like puns in titles of tag-related requests, like countless of SE's burninate requests.

Timwi

18:24

Comparison Operators: ==, ≡≡, ≣≣, ≈≈, ...

Xanderhall

Hmm...

El'endia Starman

@zyabin101 Here, let me golf that for you: "People like puns".

flawr

@Timwi Or any combination of them.

I didn't know there was a four-bars sign.

El'endia Starman

Me neither.

Sherlock9

@quartata Ah, darn. Javascript out thought what I thought would be a horrific mishmash into a slightly sane horrific mishmash

@Xanderhall I do that all the time :D Though I try to help first and if I can think of too many improvements, or a few improvements that would be quite significant, I figure they might warrant a separate answer

flawr

18:25

@El'endiaStarman ^ Is this correct english? I'm always wondering, as I am very tempted to say this but after a few moments I always resort to neither do I?

Morgan Thrapp

Me neither is fine.

TimmyD

=≡≣≣彡≈~≈

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Dubstep.

Morgan Thrapp

Me either is wrong though, as my GF is fond of reminding me.

zyabin101

@zyabin101 Related: why people do put puns in titles of tag-related requests?

quartata

Both me neither and neither do I are fine

El'endia Starman

18:27

@flawr Yes. Hmm. Neither do I is correct, but doesn't flow as well. It may be one of those things that doesn't fit into the usual rules of English. Lemme look it up.

FryAmTheEggman

@flawr It should be me either. Neither is exclusively used when saying "neither ... nor ..." unless I was taught English wrong :P

Sherlock9

@Xanderhall Your algorithm doesn't need to be completely new. I've written answers that with only one part that is new (different way to calculate binomial coefficients) and it counted

El'endia Starman

@FryAmTheEggman You also use neither when affirming a negative, so to speak.

I could've also said Nor I.

Morgan Thrapp

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A: What is the difference between "me neither" and "me either"?

In colloquial spoken language some people use me neither in place of neither do I. A- I don't like getting up in the morning. B- Neither do I. /Me neither. In the US some people will also use me either in that case: A- I don't like getting up in the morning. B- Me either. But this...

Me either is wrong.

flawr

Yes, I'm not only interested in the theoretical rules but also what is deemed acceptable by native englihs speakers=)

Sherlock9

18:28

Neither do I, and, nor I, is colloquial English from an older time

El'endia Starman

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Q: Neither do I / Nor do I / Me neither / Me either

In this circumstance, which would be the most correct / natural answer? Person 1: I don't eat meat Person 2: Neither do I / Nor do I / Me neither / Me either This says both neither do I and Me neither are often used. But I have also heard / read "me either" and "nor do I" in multiple scenarios....

expressions

Sherlock9

I still use Neither do I

Xanderhall

@Sherlock9 I have an answer I want to post that essentially takes a current answer formatted as a loop, and compresses it to one operation. Much of the answer is using the same functions, but it's also a little shorter (69-65 bytes)

flawr

@El'endiaStarman @MorganThrapp @quartata Thank you for answering/links e.t.c.

Xanderhall

@Sherlock9 Which is why I wanted to ask. It's different, but I don't know if it's different enough.

El'endia Starman

18:31

@flawr No problem. :)

I like those questions, actually, because they make me think about the rules of English that are basically innate for me.

Sherlock9

@El'endiaStarman They may be innate, but don't let them be inert :D

@Xanderhall What challenge are you planning to post this answer on?

Xanderhall

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Q: Choose The Powerball Numbers!

Powerball is an American lottery that has recently gained attention because the current jackpot (as of January 11, 2016) is the largest lotto prize in history, at about $1.5 billion (USD). Powerball players choose 5 distinct numbers from 69 numbered white balls, and 1 one "Powerball" number from...

code-golf number game random probability-theory

Sherlock9

@Xanderhall I think compressing it would work. I usually credit the answer that inspired my solutions

Xanderhall

@Sherlock9 Alright, thanks for the help. Still trying to figure everything out around here.

Sherlock9

Good luck and good golfing

zyabin101

18:39

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lol

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

Sherlock9

Magnificent :D

zyabin101

Looks like only I use vtc-plz >.<

chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=[vtc-plz]&room=240

Sherlock9

@orlp Did anyone calculate combinations of 11 characters yet? And what code did you use to calculate combinations of nine characters?

And with that, I shall go. Class in six hours. Goodnight!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Goodnight!

El'endia Starman

18:51

in The Upper Room, 1 min ago, by Flimzy

(I love how in English, we repeat a word, with that emphasis, to indicate something is more true. I wonder if other languages do the same thing.)

zyabin101

@Sherlock9 night

El'endia Starman

The context was talking about "work work", which is the work that you do that you get paid for, distinct from work that you do for fun or out of personal conviction.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman My pastor once went to (India?) where something similar happened. He used double negatives for emphasis of the positive, where there it meant the emphasis of the negative, producing interesting results.

flawr

@El'endiaStarman Like a book book (e.g. to emphasize it is not an e-book)?

El'endia Starman

I know there are a lot of foreign language speakers in here (like, everyone), so I figured I could get answers here.

@flawr Yeah, that'd be another example.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

18:53

Like, a girlfriend girlfriend

Doorknob

long long weDoItInProgrammingToo; :P

flawr

@Doorknob bool bool?

Zgarb

@El'endiaStarman Finnish has that, but it may be just borrowed from English.

zyabin101

@flawr Invalid type.

Doorknob

@flawr A bool bool is true or false. Just a bool is true, false, or FileNotFound :P

zyabin101

18:53

(But good joke.)

flawr

@Zgarb I think in german it is getting used more and more too, but also just borrowed from english.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

create Stop as Constructor { ret "thing"; }; Stop It { }

El'endia Starman

@Zgarb I'm actually uncertain how much this is a language-specific feature. Though, given what flawr said, maybe it is.

TimmyD

@El'endiaStarman VSauce had a video about this not too long ago. Seems like we use it to distinguish words when the original has become generic. Like, a book book, as opposed to an eBook.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ that's a good way to state it

flawr

18:55

@TimmyD Right, let us find that!

El'endia Starman

@TimmyD Vsauce? Did I miss that video? I don't particularly remember that.

Helka Homba

@MartinBüttner Where does codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/78024/26997 fit into the number tag debate?

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Q: A Numpad's Knight Numbers

For the non-zero digits on a standard numpad 789 456 123 consider placing a chess knight at any digit and moving it around with any number of normal L-shaped jumps, tracing out a positive decimal integer. What positive integers can be expressed in such a way? One of them is 38, since the knig...

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Helka Homba

^ fastest NMP ever

flawr

Is Cereal Soup?

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Sherlock9

18:58

@El'endiaStarman Before I go, I think mentioned that Bahasa Indonesia uses republication for plurals, right?

Martin Büttner

@HelkaHomba Looks fine to me.

El'endia Starman

@Sherlock9 I do remember the Tahu-tahu example, but I don't think I remember you saying that specifically.

@QPaysTaxes You don't make any sense.

Sherlock9

Interesting challenge

El'endia Starman

(jk)

Helka Homba

Was someone against the number tag? I can't even remember. Meh.

Martin Büttner

18:59

@HelkaHomba it's quite similar to my challenge actually :P

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