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17:00
@Sp3000 Calvin is now Helka Homba.
@crayzeedude \o/ What?
fyi I'm not kidding about Calka (I'd post more but link contents count to the char limit apparently)
@zyabin101 Twitch to IRC bridge using a Raspberry Pi and SSH
Probably more informative: codegolf.stackexchange.com/…
@crayzeedude I think Twitch has its own IRC, too.
yeah yeah
am using Twitch API and IRSSI
17:06
What's the champion language now? 05AB13?
Jelly
Also it's 05AB1E not 05AB13 :P
lol i never rmb that name
sometimes cjam though
so pyth is basically outdated
No.
Although CJam is a little out of date now
17:08
0
A: Read a crossword

Kenny LauPyth, 18 bytes Lm:d"\S\S+"1byQyCQ Try it online! Sample input: ["pies"," not"," no","wasp"," t "] Sample output: [['pies'], ['not'], ['no'], ['wasp'], []] [[], ['in', 'at'], ['eons'], ['stop']]

look even pyke defeated pyth
Pyth is a fine language to learn
@KennyLau i have a 13 bytes solution to that
in pyth
:o
how to golf it?
^^ What I was thinking - that's an unfair comparison
its completely different
17:09
I don't mind if you post a separate answer to defeat me
@quartata as opposed to Jelly, it's also usable though :P
btw, did people check xkcd on Friday/Saturday? the notice in the header used to say:
The xkcd April 1st comic is currently experiencing technical difficulties.
Status update: Please stand by.
Status update: This is fine. Everything is fine.
Status update: Everything is on fire.
Status update: Searching for calendar systems in which Saturday is April 1st.
I think the delayed comic is the April's Fools joke.
@KennyLau posted, codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/76971/31343 I'll be happy to explain to you
please do
17:14
so CBQ takes the input and bifurcates with transposition
do you know what bifurcate does?
ahhh
such cleverness
is always beyond me
noooooo don't spoil it for me
@KennyLau then jds joins everything by spaces
and cd splits everything up again
and t# filters by if length is > 1
17:18
@Maltysen its probably not a spoiler if you know anything about bat man or super man
Click ^^^^ and you may get different comics.
how does t# do that?
@zyabin101 true
# is the implcit filter
soe black background white circle
17:19
and t reduces the length of a sequence by 1
^^ Same
so it fails the filter is its already length 1
ah
ok
thanks
t# is a quite common idiom
and so is sCB
17:26
@KennyLau sure, but maybe a bit later
alright, thanks
there used to be a game on a radio station where I grew up, where they'd ask you trivia questions but you always had to respond with the answer from the previous question (and the first question got a dummy answer... "mouse" I think). does anyone know if that is actually a known game that has a name?
@Maltysen When was z added?
pyth.herokuapp.com/?code=%0A%0AK*QQjbm%2B%2BQ**lQ%3BttQQttQK&input=15&de‌​bug=0
@Sp3000 that's amazing :D
17:31
This is missing z and J
and dates to Feb 20
@Dennis Can you pull Cinnamon Gum?
Who's the mod here?
@MartinBüttner
There are 6. Martin, Dennis, Doorknob, Alex, Chris and gnibbler
well thanks
@KennyLau In your J answer, you can use | to get absolute value.
17:40
:o
@KennyLau hm?
@MartinBüttner Maybe could you add a feature so that I can choose what languages I speak and then I can also find like for example who speaks the joke.
(the joke referring to Java)
I'm a mod, not a dev ;)
well
do you agree with this lol
moderators aren't employed by SE
you could bring it up on meta as a feature request
if it gets support we could bring it up with SE staff
however, stuff like this would likely be a network-wide change and not make a lot of sense on many other SEs, so I'm not sure how much hope there is for it
17:42
@KennyLau Also, I think you can get rid of all the caps. First of all, [: f ] next to the right parenthesis is equivalent to f.
(with f being the verb containing q: and stuff)
also I think in general SE's stance on things like this is that SE is not a user-centric, but content-centric community (i.e. not a social network) so I don't think they're likely to make profiles searchable at all.
@Zgarb Would you kindly send me a link?
I already don't know where it is at
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Q: The Arithmetic Derivative

Sherlock9The derivative of a function is a cornerstone of mathematics, engineering, physics, biology, chemistry, and a large number of other sciences as well. Today we're going to be calculating something only tangentially related: the arithmetic derivative. Definition The arithmetic derivative a(n) or ...

oh ok here
@quartata Pulled.
@Zgarb Thank you so much
@KennyLau No problem!
17:46
I just removed the first [
I just found that it is unncessary
anything more?
also, why is [: v ] equivalent to v?
@KennyLau Hmm, not that I can think of. The second cap can also be removed, but that costs 2 bytes, so no improvement.
@Zgarb How can it be removed?
now my code is 0:`(*[:+/%@q:@|)@.* (19 chars)
@Dennis Thanks
@KennyLau 0:`(*+/@:%@q:@|)@.*
ah, @:
and since you are quite fluent in J
would you care to tell me what 1, 2, etc do?
17:51
@KennyLau That's because you only have one argument. [: v ] means essentially "evaluate v on right argument", and there is no left argument, so just v is enough.
I see
@KennyLau In what context?
in the context of why is 1: necessary
@KennyLau Oh you mean 1:, 2:, etc. They are constant functions. 0: always returns 0, 1: always returns 1 and so on.
then why not just 0?
17:53
Because 0 is not a function.
what is it?
If u, v and w are verbs, then (u`[email protected]) y returns either u y or v y based on whether w y is 0 or 1. But 0`[email protected] is not defined, because 0 is a value, not a verb.
I'm having trouble with a prospective Ruby answer to my arithmetic derivative challenge ->n{s=0;(2...m=n.abs).map{|d|(m/=d;s+=n/d)while m%d<1};s}. It returns correctly on 0, 1 and composite numbers, but not on primes
Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
@zgarb I see, thanks
@Sherlock9 what does it return instead?
Ah, forgot that. Primes return 0 instead of 1
17:58
any comments on meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/2140/… gratefully received
Oops. Apparently, wythagoras' Python answer has the solution. Thanks all
Maybe setting zopfli to a million iterations wasn't a good idea...
@quartata zopfli takes a long time to run no matter what. ;-)
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

LembikA tricky infinite sum This challenge is write fast code that can perform a computationally difficult infinite sum. Input An n by n matrix P with integer entries that are smaller than 100 in absolute value. P will be symmetric and positive definite. You don't really need to know what that mean...

It usually finishes in a few minutes for --i100000
I guess I'll eat lunch and see if it's done by then
this better save a byte
otherwise I'm gonna be mad
18:13
@Maltysen Can you add an explanation to your Pyth answer on arithmetic derivative? I like answers to have explanations before I upvote them.
Hey it finished
And it did save 2 bytes so it was worth it
@ChrisJester-Young Is Racket decent for golfing? I haven't been doing much programming outside of golfing lately
@quartata its not worth it until you save 19 bytes
@Sherlock9 Racket supports many languages. The default Racket language is a derivative of Scheme. Scheme is kind of verbose, and not the best for golfing. But you can implement CJam as a Racket language and use that. ;-)
@Sherlock9 Here's a golfed Scheme program: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/222/3
@ChrisJester-Young I don't think aditsu allows reimplementing his beloved CJam.
18:21
@zyabin101 What does that even mean? It's open-source.
Alright then. I have another question: What was that about a Safari subscription you mentioned earlier?
@ChrisJester-Young Which license it has?
@Sherlock9 You pay a flat yearly fee and have access to all books and videos in its library.
I was going to ask if you were going to try a Racket answer in arithmetic derivative but that Scheme made me think twice about that @_@
18:23
>_>
@Sherlock9 I can certainly try it but it's not going to be as golfy as Perl.
Unfortunately I don't have $400/yr. I am a college student in a country where the wages have never needed to be high. Looks fantastic though :D
@Sherlock9 I don't have $400/yr too. I have a $200/yr subscription. They come around once in a while.
Answer if you like, my friend. I am just poking people not pushing them
@Sherlock9 ;-)
18:25
@ChrisJester-Young The answer at $200/yr remains a, "perhaps another day"
@Sherlock9 I know. But I just wanted you to know that "another day" should be in the subset of days with the $200/yr promotion.
hi @Sherlock9
and @ChrisJester-Young :)
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Q: Highest score on the field

AdnanIntroduction Let a field be a rectangle filled with only the characters - and [0-9]. An example of a field is: 11-011123 111-010-- 0010---01 111-01234 You see that this field has been separated into three smaller areas. To calculate the score of a smaller area, we just add all numbers up. For...

There's a wonderful magazine at $70/yr that I would love to subscribe to, but alas, we haven't the money
@Sherlock9 My comment about the subset still applies. The subset could very well be empty. :-)
18:26
Hi Lembik
@Lembik o/
@zyabin101 According to CJam's project page on SourceForge, it uses MIT licence. Forking is definitely allowed under MIT licence.
So, CJam in Ruby? If CJam allows file I/O, I'll be even happier making a FakeFS version for it.
if anyone could take a look at meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/8872/9206 please I would be very grateful
@ChrisJester-Young does CJam have file I/O?
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

mIllIbyteStretch the word The input is a word of lowercase letters not separated by whitespace. A newline at the end is optional. The same word must be output in a modified version: For each character, double it the second time it appears in the original word, triple it the third time etc. Example inpu...

18:34
@zyabin101 it can read a file with g
And write a file? If so, with what?
hi @MartinBüttner look, a sandboxed question! :)
no, it can only read
so many features
wow
18:39
@Sherlock9 added
Thank you very much
btw, I just golfed 2 bytes
Even better :D
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Q: Clean the muddy quartata-fish

ZgarbThis challenge is in honor of the Rookie of the Year category winners of Best of PPCG 2015: muddyfish (for I'm not the language you're looking for!) and quartata (for Implement a Truth-Machine). Congratulations! Background In the deepest trenches of the ocean, there lives a rare and elusive squ...

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@quartata @muddyfish ^ This may interest you.
18:46
!
@NewMainPosts I think I almost caught one of those once.
I have to answer this
@quartata you just have to take a bath
I have to hide in the mud from fishermen
Gaming is very fussy
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is about identifying a list of objects. This leads to answers only identifying single objects, and incomplete list answers. Asking for single items to be identified is fine. Asking for multiple invariably leads to issues. — Frank 3 hours ago
18:50
@NewMainPosts I don't know what exactly this took. :shrug:
@HelkaHomba Well, we're down to one object, right? The bird behind the creeper? Why not rewrite the question about that one object?
@HelkaHomba Having said that, Puzzling also gets pretty annoying too when there are incomplete answers
@quartata I'm on mobile › I can't see the exact time of writing this question ›› I don't know what this took ››› :shrug:
@mIllIbyte "There will always be a unique way to perform this replacement properly" — Martin Büttner ♦ 3 mins ago
^ the one hand-wavy sentence to rule them all.
18:53
@zyabin101 It was about 3 minutes, so not bad.
@PhiNotPi how's that handwavy?
@Sherlock9 heh, idk if that would go over well either (but maybe im too used to ppcg "no-changing" rules )
@PhiNotPi I didn't even see the other comment before it was deleted.
The feed bot factor is 0.75. It is very small.
@MartinBüttner Basically side-stepping all the inherent ambiguity by saying it won't happen.
18:55
@HelkaHomba In your comment, use "ridiculous"
The best part is that it actually works, though.
@PhiNotPi Would you have allowed many possible outputs instead?
@Zgarb That's probably what I would typically do, but both options are pretty standard ways of dealing with the issue.
This is actually pretty hard; I think the golfiest way to do it is just to brute force replacements until it matches a fish but I'm not sure exactly how to tell if it is a fish reliably
I'm trying to find a bounding box atm
19:02
it might be simpler to place valid fish in all possible positions and check for equality with the grid, treating # as a wildcard.
maybe
I can do multiple attempts though
@quartata I was going for "looks like an instant win for Retina at first glance, but isn't".
Do we have a challenge that is largest input with one character code?
It's context sensitive (width of one part of the fish) so too complicated for a basic regex
those 2d pattern matching languages might win
19:04
@MartinBüttner ooh that's a good idea
should Cheddar have a way to run a function with a different scope?
@Maltysen I don't think any of them support replacement. Mental note: add replacement to Grime at some point
my god. A use for apply
@Zgarb you succeeded. (well I don't know about the first part, but I'm sure it seems that way for some people... :P)
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

DowngoatWhat's being surrounded I've always wanted to surround some text with #s, but I have trouble figuring out what I surrounded so in this challenge you'll be writing a program to do just that Examples Input / Outputs are separated by a newline. ### #a# ### a # #a# # a ### # a # ...

19:17
@HelkaHomba Sorry about your question getting closed
Reddit may have been a better fit for this kind of question, after all. I can see why they might be a bit uptight about identification questions, though I'm not necessarily happy about the way it was handled.
Is there any type of executable that runs on both OSX and windows? Like batch, exe, or .app?
@AshwinGupta Not really, but most languages work on both platforms
If you're talking about straight up compiled executables both kernels have different executable formats/loaders so no
yeah that stinks.
@quartata I'm pretty sure there is at least one polyglot executable that runs on both systems
19:26
@Downgoat ik that. We are using java/python, so the code should be fine. But that actual executable (for uesrs to use) that you doubleclick is what I'm talking about.
OS X uses Mach-O, Linux uses ELF and Windows uses whatever Windows uses idk
Hm. So I guess we include executables for all operating systems.
@AshwinGupta Oh well Java uses bytecode so that will work on any platform
@AshwinGupta oh, then no. But you can release like a .jar file I think and that would work on both platforms. I don't really know much about java though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Downgoat yeah thats true, jar might. We still need an executable tho for the python.
19:27
p2exe?
its pretty nice
I'll just have my friend write the mac executable and I'll write a windows batch or something.
@Maltysen I'll check it out.
cx_freeze is cross platform p2exe is windows only
@AshwinGupta Jar definitely will as long as java is installed. Worst case scenario: Java jar to launch python program, although Im pretty sure you can just send the pyc file and run is like that
But if you're just writing a Java/Python app just distribute the classes and the pycs
19:28
@GamrCorps I'm actually thinking about doing that ATM LOL
those will run anywhere with python and java
@AshwinGupta Solution: Don't use python
You should probably consider using jython though
@Downgoat lol yeah that seems smart actually. I could port my friends python code into java code, it would just take a bit.
@quartata I looked into that, it only supports old versions (less then 3.0)
obvious solution is to use JS
19:30
my friends script is in 3.5 or whatever the newest python is.
Yeah see, I warned my friend in the beggining: No python!, and he wouldn't listen.
Use 3to2 or __future__
I'm guessing I may just have to end up porting to java or js or something.
@AshwinGupta use Cheddar
it is the best language
He was joking about JS
Although thanks for the cx_freeze recomendation @quartata that seems useful. I'll use that someday I'm sure
19:32
._.
@Downgoat lol
@Downgoat it doesn't even work yet lmao
at least pytek kinda works
@quartata the tokenizer is working
@Downgoat honestly, when you say cheddar I think of that disgusting spray cheese.
except for conditionals
19:32
lol.
@Downgoat who needs conditionals right?
@AshwinGupta I'm reffering to Cheddar the programming language
@AshwinGupta use ternary, tis' mroe gofier
@Downgoat I know what cheddar is, you've shown me b4.
If you want to use Jython you canuse __future__ to port
3to2 is also nice
@quartata well that I didn't know about.
I will look into this.
This is the prj.
I wrote the java, he wrote the python. In case it isn't already clear, we didn't plan too well..
Also, the program is a joke we are going to use on our friends at school, so don't take it too seriously.
I was looking through old chat messages and I realized something: Has anyone seen Timwi lately? Did they change their username?
And molarmanful, whatever happened to them?
molarmanful renamed to Mama Fun Roll, and Timwi has a life
Ah, thanks guys
Going on right now: The Panama Papers.
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^ I just saw that.
It's really big.

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