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16:00
@quartata the link would onebox if it were real
You really should learn not to click on links provided by llamas at any rate
Mar 17 at 3:48, by Dennis
Speaking of browsers: strawpoll.me/7103497
@Quill Oh I didn't know it was a reply, I thought it was a regular ping.
@Optimizer removed
sorry
It wouldn't onebox if it was a normal ping.
16:01
thank you Mr. Obvious
@NathanMerrill Yes, that was the inspiration.
I think my version might contain slightly more detail (not included in the spec yet) such as the ability to choose which arrows light up, so that only passengers travelling in that direction get onboard.
nice
@PhiNotPi have you tried the higher levels of that game? I am pretty sure you cannot have more details
16:06
@Dennis I read somewhere that he didn't really say that.
@Geobits touche?
@Optimizer Oh, then I guess I never made it to those levels.
@PhiNotPi what was the highest level u remember ?
IDK, it's been a long time
without you my friend
16:08
*subtle jazz flute plays*
and I'll tell you all about it when I see you again
16:20
Why is every icon set to 3D?
@AandN I was wondering that too - i saw every HNQ had the 3d tag and thought they were suddenly VERY exciting
Hahahahah
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Q: Meta Stack Exchange's logo shows up as "3D"

Ben NThis just started happening on non-meta sites: Meta Stack Exchange's logo in the "Featured on Meta" section seems to have been replaced with some site's logo. Mousing over the icon does produce "Meta Stack Exchange" as normal, and the link works. It even happens in the reputation and inbox dr...

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Q: Why are all my reputation gained listed as from the 3D printing site?

PureferretThis us what I mean: What's going on? ETA: The HNQ too :

They broke something clearly
It's an issue with the CSS class generation after some directory changes - we'll be pushing out a fix ASAP. — Nick Craver ♦ 5 mins ago
they aren't offsetting the icons
Yeah.
16:23
Hahaha, if you post a bug on meta, you will get a lot of upvotes within 30 minutes
I just found a bug on meta!
Oh... you're already talking about that.
me too.. oh..
It's an issue with the CSS class generation after some directory changes - we'll be pushing out a fix ASAP. — Nick Craver ♦ 7 mins ago
It's an issue with the CSS class generation after some directory changes - we'll be pushing out a fix ASAP. — Nick Craver ♦ 8 mins ago
Can any of y'all open questions on 3d printing?
16:26
It's an issue with the CSS class generation after some directory changes - we'll be pushing out a fix ASAP. — Nick Craver ♦ 8 mins ago
i get an error page
Hmmm. Now there's another idea for a challenge: given an HNQ question title, determine what site it was from.
It's an issue with the CSS class generation after some directory changes - we'll be pushing out a fix ASAP. — Nick Craver ♦ 8 mins ago
too bad the links don't actually go to 3D printing.
it'd be a huge influx of users for them
@Quill @Optimizer @AandN @zyabin101 closed as duplicate
16:27
BTW, AFAIK PPCG... ROFL, AKA TMA!
what?
@El'endiaStarman max code size, or code-challenge?
@Quill Also closed as duplicate
4 mins ago, by quartata
It's an issue with the CSS class generation after some directory changes - we'll be pushing out a fix ASAP. — Nick Craver ♦ 5 mins ago
I'm a dupe too, nooooooooo
Hahaha
16:28
@NathanMerrill I dunno. I'm about to attempt it myself with a screenshot of the HNQ sidebar. :P
@Optimizer By The Way, As Far As I Know Programming Puzzles and Code Golf... Rolling On the Floor Laughing, also known as Too Many Acronyms.
@wizzwizz4 You missed "As Far As I Know".
@El'endiaStarman No I didn't.
@wizzwizz4 Eh, you can't do anything about that edit icon... :P
@El'endiaStarman No I didn't.
16:31
wut, I think you confused him @El'endia
CSS broke the main page of Stack Exchange, too. Just look.
css is getting updated
hold tight
@Quill No I didn't.
Well, to summarize, every element of the page HTML is output one after other.
lolol, they don't have any QA/QE?
16:35
I made my first commit for my KoTHComm. Currently supports piping, serialization, tournaments, and 2D maps and graphs
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and it's back!
I will put aside my dislike of java for the KoTHComm's sake.
@NathanMerrill
that isn't a request
Meaning: Think of a better name pls.
16:37
but its a communication framework for a KoTH?
Mebbe they should post to Code Review before sending out a CSS update ...
It's all broken now
:(
@NathanMerrill Could you perhaps make it in a more elegant language next time?
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@TimmyD ;)
@wizzwizz4 I don't like c++ nor javascript, and python is too slow
16:41
@wizzwizz4 he probably just need to run it through a JSBeautifier!
ven
ven
uuuh, is PPCG down?
Icons fixed! \o/
@ven I don't think so...
no, but all links are breaking
But content is down. /o\
ven
ven
16:41
I consider that to be "down"...
@ven same for me - I can only get to the main page, not anywhere else
@muddyfish What is?
Thank you for the stars!
everything
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Q: Can't access questions of any per-site meta

MarkWhen I goto http://meta.engineering.stackexchange.com/ and click on any of the links for a question, I get the oops page. So, per the page's request, I'm reporting it here. It's not just that question. It's every question on that site.

16:42
wait wtf
every question page is broken
we should have made the broken server thing rick roll so when the site breaks it rick rolls everyone
@Quill Say also about PPCG. Use the [Codegolf.SE] syntax. Edit: Done.
^
why did you fricking post that link
16:44
Well, PPCG is broken. Guess I'll have to go do actual work. Oh wait, look, it's lunch time. :D
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@quartata At some point it sounds like drilling into hard wood with a forstner bit.
@flawr It gets even better
So I have a bit of an issue
Tried to make a post, got an error page
16:50
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Q: Can't access questions of many (most) sites

MarkWhen I goto http://meta.engineering.stackexchange.com/ and click on any of the links for a question, I get the oops page. So, per the page's request, I'm reporting it here. It's not just that question. It's every question on that site, and also on many other sites.

Yeah, PPCG is broken currently.
Tried to ask about said error page on meta, and then got an error page
@wnnmaw not the only one.
@wnnmaw Facepalm
ninj'aed
16:50
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 5 mins ago, by Jon Ericson
A fix is coming. Hang tight.
we all rekt each other
PPCG works perfectly for me.
lies.
ಠ_ಠ
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Q: What happened to my post?

wnnmawI've written up what I think is a good challenge, gotten feedback in the sandbox, and then posted it to the site. Upon submitting I'm met with a page that shows: When I simply try to resubmit my post, I get a message saying there is a duplicate which links to the above page! For reference, h...

16:51
@EasterlyIrk you got the link b4 i even face palmed. totally ninja'd
Well, glad to know its not jsut me yet
A production build fixing all sites is rolling out now. ETA: 2 minutes.
@wnnmaw It worked. :P
Ok, so at least I have the meta post, guess I just gotta sit tight for a fix
@wnnmaw it did already. #fail
Seriously, it is fixed.
16:52
• Try to do something on main site. Encounter error page.
• Try to report error on Meta. Encounter error page.
• Triple fault.
huh, still can't see my post
go to meta.meta.ppcg.stackexchange.com
@wnnmaw
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Q: Wargame Tank Simulation

wnnmawSome of you may have heard of the Wargame series of computer based real time strategy game. These games pit teams of players with primarily cold war era units to see how a hot cold war would have played out. The goal of this challenge is to simulate a tank battle in these games. Input Two "t...

> meta.meta.ppcg
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Q: Wargame Tank Simulation

wnnmawSome of you may have heard of the Wargame series of computer based real time strategy game. These games pit teams of players with primarily cold war era units to see how a hot cold war would have played out. The goal of this challenge is to simulate a tank battle in these games. Input Two "t...

1. We are codegolf.se not ppcg.se, 2. meta.meta.
16:54
weird, reloading the page didn't work, had to get the link from you
@NewMainPosts ninja'ed though thank you.
Calling all mods: Time to EDIT!!!
This was our fault. We noticed that our error pages got appreciably fewer views than everything else, and asked engineering to break everything in order to fix that. — Tim Post ♦ 37 secs ago
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16:55
PPCG is possibly UP! \o/
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Q: Cross site 500 error on question pages

MarkWhen I goto http://meta.engineering.stackexchange.com/ and click on any of the links for a question, I get the oops page. So, per the page's request, I'm reporting it here. It's not just that question. It's every question on that site, and also on many other sites.

@zyabin101 it has been up.
Stack Exchange is UP!
^^ My attempt at identifying sites by question titles.
@zyabin101 ninj'aed
@El'endiaStarman you has script?
16:56
that was weird, the page cache I had still produced the oops page
<== struck by gods
@EasterlyIrk No, I screenshotted the HNQ sidebar and took a guess at every question. :P
@muddyfish should i blame caching? TOTALLY
@El'endiaStarman :(
I actually did the text in MS Paint... >_>
there was a quiz userscript made a while ago
16:57
@El'endiaStarman since when is "or" allowed?
@El'endiaStarman >_> windows....
@Quill I was thinking about making something like that.
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Q: Hot Post-ato Guessing Game

SirPythonOn almost every page in the Stack Exchange Network, there lives a list of some the current "hot" questions across the network (sometimes abbreviated HNQs). Some of these posts have very exotic titles (especially the ones from Arqade) and some have very simple titles. Either way, I've always foun...

@Doorknob ಠ_ಠ
[status-norepro]
@NathanMerrill With some question titles, you can't really tell because it could be on topic for multiple sites.
16:58
@El'endiaStarman You got the Code Golf challenge wrong
A swiss vegan lost at court: He wanted to serve in the army but was deemed unfit because he refused to wear the leather boots.
@AandN You think I didn't notice?
@flawr really? >.<
Dec 22 '15 at 22:34, by New Sandboxed Posts
HELLO I AM BOT FEED ME BUTTER
@EasterlyIrk Yep.
17:00
@El'endiaStarman which actually makes a good point for the challenge: perhaps the function should also accept a list of 2 sites that it chooses between
you include the correct site, and another random one
I was thinking that it's better to just have the whole list of SE sites and you pick from there. If you pick multiple, either you get a fraction of a point for a right answer, or you only get to pick two.
@Quill That's pretty cool, but I think I can do better by making a stand-alone website that pulls from the HNQ in some way.
That sounds like fun
I was deciding whether to put together a small page that lets you guess the election outcome
Re: elections
>.< True.
Oh boy primary in 2 hours
17:08
oh shit
BTW, anybody think that the current list of mods will change?
One of us 11 is going to be sad. It's a pop con with only one loser...
@EasterlyIrk I hope not, but there's a possibility it will.
@Dennis :(
Somebody drop out.
@Dennis C.SE actually had an 11-candidate election.
@Dennis maybe I'll put mine in so there are 2 losers
17:10
I am not in.
but I actually don't want to be a mod
@El'endiaStarman :(
@NathanMerrill I'll join!
@NathanMerrill Don't do it if you don't want to be a mod
But I don't wanna mod.
@EasterlyIrk ^^
17:12
I want to have epic mod powers, but not have to use them responsibly.
>.<
@El'endiaStarman why do you say "I hope not", when you have yourself as a candidate?
@NathanMerrill Because I really like the current mod team and nominated myself mostly to give them a run for their money. :P
although, a case could be made for not voting our highest rep users because they are pretty much mods anyways\
therefore, if we vote for lower-rep users, we have more total effective mods
Really, mods should be elected for their ability to do the job, not for any other reason.
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I choose you, @El'endiaichu!
17:24
lol :P
your name lends itself to memes.
Feb 28 at 1:44, by Alex A.
El'lennya Starman
@NathanMerrill At least on PPCG, the most common mod task is dealing with comments. High-rep users can't do anything about that.
@Dennis I remember having a conversation about that. it's pretty unintuitive (IMO) that that is the most common task
that said, its certainly not the most important task
@NathanMerrill Kinda makes sense to me though. The sorts of problems you'll get on PPCG will be very different from, say, C.SE.
17:27
^
@El'endiaStarman oh for sure, its just not obvious at first glance
yeah, that's true
I mean, we love to question the specs when challenges are posted
can you imagine what that would be on any other site?
@NathanMerrill It's the one thing the community cannot do on its own. And with requests for clarification on questions and critique/fixes/improvements for answers, we get a lot of comments that eventually become obsolete.
I found my CR counterpart:
17:31
Except Malachi likes Visual Basic
Nobody's perfect.
oh, btw, if any of you were here yesterday when I was describing my dynamic static typing system, I did my research, and it actually is a thing:
In computer science and logic, a dependent type is a type whose definition depends on a value. A "string" is a type. A "fixed-length string of length 5" is a dependent type because of the dependence on a value. It is an overlapping feature of type theory and type systems. In intuitionistic type theory, dependent types are used to encode logic's quantifiers like "for all" and "there exists". In functional programming languages like Agda, ATS, Coq, Epigram and Idris, dependent types prevent bugs by allowing extremely expressive types. Two common examples of dependent types are dependent functions...
@Doorknob I was reading the Puzzling chat you posted on your election post, and there are repeated references to a meta post you made. What was the meta post about?
17:46
And the site upheaval?
@Dennis: ಠ_ಠ
So close lol
@Dennis un-close and then wait 15 seconds and reclose.
@ZachGates what question?
17:52
oh the one i answered
ninj'aed
Is that gogh?
@EasterlyIrk Well, I was gonna answer ÷R=¡=R÷ in Gogh in reply to your FOG answer
@ZachGates you needs a Gogh online.
@ZachGates rekt
@ZachGates Right back at ya. :P When you see a question without any winning criterion, don't post an answer; vote to close.
Once I get oration online running, I can probably get gogh also?
@Dennis sowee
17:54
Simple solution to the problem of attempting to answer just-now-closed questions: don't answer questions that should be closed.
@Dennis Isn't the winning criteria least bytes?
ninja'ed
BUT I NEEDS INTERNET POINTS
@ZachGates there was none.
Well, that's for Zach Gates. Easterly Irk just needs to not answer old questions that should be closed. :P
17:54
:(
sowee
brb doing trig and minecraft later
@ZachGates No, it doesn't have one. It's a , but it doesn't say how it's scored.
1 min ago, by Easterly Irk
@ZachGates there was none.
@Dennis Oh, okay. Thanks for clarifying :) My bad
I can't tell who got rekt, but most likely me. >.<
bai
@Dennis I retract my disapproval face
17:57
ty
(2 bytes)
@NathanMerrill That could be this.
It's a tie, actually.
@zyabin101 By rep or by number of distinct bounties?
@trichoplax The latter.
18:03
Well deserved, from those I've seen
@Dennis Congrats! You are the second member of the tie. :)
(Also well deserved, from what I've seen...)
I never understood why a tie is called a tie.
I tend to use "draw" instead, but I don't know why that means a tie either
btw did anyone ever do something about the tag description?
18:06
@El'endiaStarman that doesn't appear to be nearly controversial enough
@NathanMerrill Yeah. Maybe a chat search for "Great Meta Post" will turn it up.
> to tie a tin can on a dog's tail.
O.o
@TimmyD Could also work with cats.
Haha, I just read someone using "zombie-jesus-day" when referring to easter =)
@flawr Yeah, that's a popular way to make fun of Christians.
It was a bit creative the first time, but like the FSM, it gets old real quick.
18:13
Why making fun? I just heard this for the first time=)
And I think the one who used it knew more about christianity than many others.
I make fun of a lot of things I know quite a bit about.
I still say it should be vampire instead of zombie anyway.
@NathanMerrill +31/-30, yeah, probably. :P
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Q: Who's the king of the tournament?

ZgarbBackground Consider a round-robin tournament, in which each contestant plays one game against every other contestant. There are no draws, so every game has a winner and a loser. A contestant A is a king of the tournament, if for every other contestant B, either A beat B, or A beat another contes...

@El'endiaStarman I just noticed that seeing the number of up and downvotes needs a minimum rep=)
But thinking of it, I do not really understand why?
Is there any way this knowledge could be abused?
18:17
I heard there was a way around this
Yeah, there's a userscript.
@Zgarb I actually had a KoTH based on tournament kings. Basically, you had full knowledge of the tournament progress, and a limited amount of points to use to attempt to beat your competitors
It's public via the API
@flawr IIRC, it apparently because getting the up/down counts was an expensive operation so it was a cheap way to rate-limit that operation.
That's what I remember seeing on meta.
18:18
@NathanMerrill Interesting. Do you have a link for that?
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Nathan MerrillKing of the Tournaments This game is based off of Graph Theory Tournaments The competition will be a series of tournaments, where the Kings of a tournament will play in the next until the winner(s) is found Every player will play every other player exactly once in a tournament. Each player wi...

@Geobits If anything, he's a lich.
I always assumed vampire. They spread it by having followers drink their blood, right? >_>
Sure, but he's active in daytime.
And not sparkly.
I never said he was a Twilight vampire D:
18:31
Although, he is usually depicted with a nimbus ...
is it just me, or is our site more mathy than it was a few years ago?
@TimmyD Oh... good point. Also, who says he's active in the daytime now? Sure, before death, but when was the last time you saw him during the day?
@Geobits I've also never seen him and you in the same room together ... >.>
I mean, this question is so arbitrary: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/26130/…
@NathanMerrill Dunno, only been a member for two years ;)
@TimmyD No comment
18:33
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Q: Should we have a "Welcome to PPCG" new user post?

GamrCorpsI recently notices that Tex.SE has a Welcome to Tex.SX! meta post. In it, it describes what the site is and how to use it. It also includes information on the scope. I think this would be a good addition to PPCG. If a new user does not understand how to use the site properly, most users leave a c...

@Geobits Well, the Bible does say that at one point, 500 people saw him after the resurrection. Must've been daytime then...
True. I hate to be too dismissive of that, but lots of people have seen Elvis or Tupac lately, too.
@NathanMerrill link
found it, but thank you!
@Geobits All at once, in the same place?
18:36
@El'endiaStarman I doubt it, but mass hysteria is a thing, too. All it takes is a few people to stir up a crowd and they'll see whatever you want them to.
(given the right crowd, etc)
I don't really want to get too far into it, though. Nothing good will come of this :P
@Geobits I'm fairly sure I've seen that possibility discussed and dismissed, but I don't remember the exact argument.
@Geobits Haha, okay. :)
@Doorknob I'm a bit baffled that emotions got that high. The best argument I heard was that the meta post didn't have the "status declined" edit at the top which was causing people to try to close on-topic posts
(and downvote)
@Dennis That's a lot of €s in your program.
@NathanMerrill After reading through the chat, I concluded that part of the problem was that a few people were really hostile and combative.
but a few downvotes and close votes are hardly things to fuel a long-standing torrent of hate towards the mods
@El'endiaStarman absolutely. I mean, Geobits was acting as a third party, and he still got torn apart
18:41
@Zgarb Yeah... Grouping F, Q and L costs two bytes though.
I just accidentally started music playing, but there's no window.
I like the music though, so that's okay.
But still. o.o
@El'endiaStarman once I managed to get a window positioned offscreen that was playing music
but eventually found out I could use Win-arrow to move windows around
My first ever puzzling post has happened.
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A: I'm so meta, try yourself with this!

Easterly Irk - Clues with links: Long ago, where barrels ran ramped and the trees consumed the earth, was a time of life and of love and of happiness. (You put one and two together, and what do you get?) links: Another clue: Teacher. We trust him for knowledge. Explanation: Not sure abo...

(The Fn key + arrow keys are music player buttons, so I know how to interact with it, but still.)
and now I'm the more productive for it
18:46
@EasterlyIrk ISMTYWT......I'm disappointed.
Not a question, that was @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ's question.
@NathanMerrill With Win10, you can use Win+Tab to see all windows. But there's no window, and there's nothing in the task bar icons.
did you move it to another desktop?
Nope, checked both desktops and monitors.
I'm just waiting to see what song pops up next.
lol
pandora?
18:49
'cause I think it's probably using iTunes, somehow.
Nope.
I'm hearing Revelation Song (Kari Jobe) at the moment, and I'm expecting to hear Let Me In (Will Reagan + United Pursuit Band) next, if I remember my playlist correctly.
Love that song. (revalation song).
@El'endiaStarman opinion of colton dixon?
I hate him, sister loves him.
@EasterlyIrk Have you heard the version she did at the Passion conference?
@EasterlyIrk No idea who that is.
@El'endiaStarman ISMTYWT?
18:51
brb googling
@El'endiaStarman Good.
@EasterlyIrk I think hes a little weird. just a little
Oh, nope, next song was Awakening (Chris Tomlin), which is in the playlist, but not in that order.
@EasterlyIrk Oh, he was on American Idol. That's probably why - I haven't watched any of that show for several years now. I think I watched the fourth season or something.
He is also a christian singer.
Oh, nope, seventh season.
@EasterlyIrk I figured as much. Lemme see if he did any songs I know.
@El'endiaStarman @epicTCK minecraft server?
18:57
@EasterlyIrk cant really rn
okai
I am on though, but nobody else.
maybe in a little bit
@EasterlyIrk I'll be on in a bit.
Not for long though.
Anyway, third song is in the same playlist, and I just realized that this playlist is also a folder in my Music folder on Windows, so maybe that's where the songs are coming from. (And they seem to be randomly chosen.)

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