The Nineteenth Byte

quintopia

15:20

that vague euphoria/horniness you get a few minutes after stubbing your toe especially hard

RikerW

wat?

:P

quintopia

@Doorknob is houston more or less friendly than Chicago?

@RikerW it's quite pleasant. perhaps not enough to make up for the pain, but enough that you can begin to understand why the masochists get into it

Doorknob

@quintopia yeah, it is

Although I can't say I've been to a whole lot of places around here :P

quintopia

@Doorknob i must not have been clear

Doorknob

oh

uhh... pretty similar?

Sherlock9

15:25

"More or less?" "Yes" "ಠ_ಠ"

Doorknob

actually, "no" :P

Dennis

@Sherlock9 Jelly? A golfing language? Pfft.

Luis Mendo

@Dennis On my side, Octave only shows that text the first time a symbolic function is used. Is Octave always running on your server? Or is it started each time? If so, a simple startup file that calls a symbolic function might solve the issue

Sherlock9

Incidentally. @Doorknob, this is your kick in the pants to get that Google Form up and running

Doorknob

oh yeah that

Sherlock9

15:28

I don't mean to bother you, so I'm NOT going to give you many kicks. Probably after the third one fails, I'll just learn how in the heck Google Forms works

Doorknob

I'm doing it right now :P

Sherlock9

I accidentally a word ಠ_ಠ

Dennis

@LuisMendo I'm not sure how to run Octave permanently from the command-line. If everything else fails, I could call a symbolic function before MATL and cut the first x bytes from the output.

Doorknob

goo.gl/forms/vYut7apsAs

@AlexA. @PhiNotPi @GamrCorps @RikerW @Mego @mınxomaτ Discord poll ^

quintopia

@Dennis this seems the easiest

Sherlock9

15:33

Thank you very much. I have filled it in

Luis Mendo

@Dennis Got it. I'll test on my side and get back to you later. Thanks!

Sherlock9

To Dennis, Luis, and quintopia, if you want to join voice chat on the Discord server, let me or Doorknob know

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob That kind of misses the point doesn't it? If I enter a timer comfortable for me, I still won't know how compatible that is with any other person.

quintopia

@Sherlock9 i'll join

Doorknob

@mınxomaτ The goal is to choose a time that overlaps with as many people's "slots" as possible.

Luis Mendo

15:34

@Sherlock9 Thanks, good to know! For now I'll stick to text chat, though

Doorknob

Maybe we could have twice-daily things, if necessary

Sherlock9

This is the link discord.gg/0kCkPQ1A36APCuRN

That link might be expired. Hang on

mınxomaτ

@Doorknob Yeah, but I don't know the other's zones. I am able to be felxible, but I can only enter one time. It should really ask for a start and end time.

quintopia

@Sherlock9 yeah it has

Dennis

@Sherlock9 You do not want to hear me talk in English. :P

Sherlock9

15:35

discord.gg/0kCkPQ1A36A4HaBk

quintopia

@Dennis then mute your mic :P

Doorknob

@mınxomaτ Hmm. I'll see if I can make it do a range.

Sherlock9

@Dennis I don't give a darn. I live in Indonesia, I'm used to interesting accents

Dennis

It's the stuttering I'm worried about.

I haven't talked in English in 10 years.

Optimizer

me neither

Dennis

15:36

Make that 15.

Optimizer

25

mınxomaτ

I haven't typed a German word for weeks now.

But I probably equally suck at talking.

quintopia

such a weird concept, the idea of written fluency and spoken ineptitude

Luis Mendo

Looks like most of us here are non-native English speakers

quintopia

i mean, i can sort of see it, when i think about how poorly i pronounce french words

Dennis

15:39

Feature request: voice chats in Spanish or German

mınxomaτ

+1 for the latter.

Doorknob

If you're okay with me consulting a dictionary every other word for Spanish and probably still butchering it horribly, then... :P

Luis Mendo

@Dennis Which of those are you?

Dennis

@LuisMendo Both. I was born in Germany, but I live in Paraguay.

Sherlock9

I would be happy to listen to (or set up a voice channel) for Spanish or German chats. I won't understand a most of it, but that's my problem for not learning either language when I had chances to

mınxomaτ

15:41

@Dennis How did that happen?

Luis Mendo

@Dennis Ah! That's an interesting mix indeed :-)

mınxomaτ

@Sherlock9 I was kidding btw.

Katenkyo

@quintopia French is hard to write, but not to pronounce :)

We have less exceptions and edge cases than english :)

Luis Mendo

@Doorknob You showed very good knowledge with your conjugation challenge :-)

mınxomaτ

@Katenkyo French is still hard to pronounce.

Zgarb

15:43

@Katenkyo Speaking in French makes my tongue hurt.

Doorknob

@LuisMendo Extremely basic knowledge... :P

mınxomaτ

Just because B is harder than A doesn't make A easier than it was before.

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quintopia

@Katenkyo the phonemes are unfamiliar. the vowels, the nasals, deciding when and when not to pronounce a letter...

Luis Mendo

@Doorknob Not for some Spanish speakers. Specially the accents :-)

Katenkyo

@mınxomaτ @Zgarb So I'd be curious to know what's hard about it, always thought it wasn't that hard to speak in ^^'

Dennis

15:44

@mınxomaτ Rather long story. I have to go now, so I'll tell it another time.

Zgarb

@Katenkyo As mentioned, the nasals and other unfamiliar phonemes. And the French r is difficult to get right.

TimmyD

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Katenkyo

@quintopia thanks for the examples :). I agree that some things are badly designed, but maybe i'm too used to it to judge (except "Faisait" which sounds like "feusait", I never think it was difficult ^^')

TimmyD

I'm constantly amazed by Europeans and their abilities to speak like two or three or four languages. Heck, a good percentage of supposedly-English-speaking Americans can't even speak English.

Katenkyo

@Zgarb Do you see the sound you make when you have something stuck in your throat and trying to unstuck it? The "r" sounds like that ^^

quintopia

15:48

@Katenkyo like the "s" on the end of "suis" which is apparently pronounced before vowels but not consonants?

Katenkyo

@quintopia most ending-letters in french are silent

Zgarb

@Katenkyo I tend to gag and cough when that happens. :P

Katenkyo

@quintopia The only rules about the s are : if surrounded by vowels, pronounce as "z", else, pronounce as "s"

Sherlock9

je suis le tenebreaux => zhe swi le tenebruh (sort of)

This I remember from a Flanders and Swann song

Katenkyo

@Sherlock9 Je suis ténébreux (or Je suis le chevalier (or other noun) ténébreux) ^^

quintopia

15:51

i can sing all of "Je Suis Rick Springfield" and that is the extent of my french speaking

Katenkyo

and it's more like "Ge" than "Zhe" ^^

Sherlock9

@Katenkyo Replying to the wrong person

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Addition of doubles... without doubles fastest-code golf-cpu For this challenge, you must write a GOLF assembly program that takes two IEEE 754 double-precision numbers and returns their sum. The Format IEEE 754 doubles use 8 bytes to store a floating-point value. The memory is laid out like t...

Katenkyo

@Sherlock9 oops ^^'

Sherlock9

@Katenkyo These are the lyrics of Je suis le Tenebreux nyanko.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fas/hat_jesuis.html

Katenkyo

15:54

At least, we don't have things like "rate bait eight" which sounds a lot similar ^^

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Q: Sort scrambled two-dimensional array filled with numbers by swapping

A two-dimensional array of size n×n is filled with n*n numbers, starting from number 1. Those numbers are to be sorted per row in ascending order; the first number of a row must be greater than the last number of the previous row (the smallest number of all (1) will be in [0,0]). This is similar ...

Katenkyo

@Sherlock9 Oh, yeah, "Ténébreux" is used as the noun itself, so it's ok there ^^

@Sherlock9 and for reference "Le Ténébreux" is better translated by "The one who live by/in/covered in darkness" than "the Dark One" ^^

ETHproductions

@Dennis Hahaha, I'm beating you again :D

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A: Predict whether a message will be starred or not in 50 bytes

JavaScript ES6, 50 bytes, 67.95% Correctly identifies 585 starred and 774 non-starred. x=>/^<|t[ao]r|l.x|bot|pin|ol|[;ÿ-ﬀ]|<.>/i.test(x) Returns true if the message starts with < or contains any of star, bot, pin, ping, alex, italic text, bold text, a link, a semicolon, a non-ASCII char, or...

Now I just have Sp3000 to chase down...

Sherlock9

@Katenkyo <s>I think it's adapted from a Byron poem</s>. I'll have to track it down

GamrCorps

@Doorknob done. I submitted twice, one for weekends and one for weekdays.

Katenkyo

15:59

@Sherlock9 Actually, it's well written and pleasing to read, I'll look for more later. Thanks for the link !

Sherlock9

@Katenkyo A sonnet by Gerard de Nerval frenchtoday.com/french-poetry-reading/…

Doorknob

@GamrCorps ok, thanks!

Sherlock9

@Katenkyo Listen to the other songs as well. This was by a comedy duo, Flanders and Swann

Katenkyo

@Sherlock9 It's... dark/sad for a comedy Oo

Sherlock9

@Katenkyo Well the whole thing is sung in French. I don't think anyone in the British audience got that bit

Katenkyo

16:02

Oh, just found a Poetic license (is that the good translation for Licence Poétique ?) ^^

Sherlock9

And the tune it was sent to, doesn't give the tone of the poem away

Katenkyo

@Sherlock9 The last tercet, speak about going down the Acheron (the death's river you have to cross by when going to the Hells), Orphée is the one who failed to take back is wife from Hadès ^^

Everything's about things like that ^^'

Love, tragedy and death ^^

RikerW

@Doorknob not sure if I can continue the discord. I'll do the poll, but no promises.

Sorry.

I would like to though.

Even if only to hear Alex's wrongness...

Katenkyo

@Sherlock9 In facts, there isn't a lot of happy poems on your site xD

Doorknob

@RikerW It's not like you have to be there every day. You can join a few times a month whenever you can :P

Sherlock9

16:07

Ill wind - Flanders and Swann

►

Doorknob

or you could just listen but not talk

Sherlock9

Posted the wrong song, but that's a good one anyway

@Katenkyo There we go youtube.com/watch?v=WTv18qlvviE

RikerW

@Doorknob Maybe that...

My mom is uber strict about bed at 9:00 though.

IDK.

@Doorknob Will try to do that.

Katenkyo

@Sherlock9 can't listen at it right now, I'm on my phone, will listen to that later, but thanks :)

and bye guys, have to leave for now :)

Sherlock9

Alright, thanks for the talk. See you later

SuperJedi224

16:15

@Sherlock9 Video not available

Sherlock9

Oh for the love of St. Isidore

It works for me. And I've already gotten two video unavailable messages at this point, so *imagine that shrug emote here, since apparently I can't find that either ಠ_ಠ *

BlockCoder1392

someone should create a modified version of called rjs that adds one thing a golfier randomnumbergenerator

ETHproductions

@BlockCoder1392 If you're talking about JS, Japt has that

BlockCoder1392

yup forgot a whole word

BTW this is what i meant

like genereating 3 distinct 2-21 numbers and one from 41 to 653 then something like this:

3:2r21,41r653

or all distinct: d[3:2r21,41r653]

or just the first distinct: d3:2r21,41r653

ETHproductions

Yeah, that's a good idea

RikerW

16:34

@Doorknob what is Vim?

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SuperJedi224

@RikerW Its a text editor

RikerW

I know that much..

But the is a whole SE site about it, so it must be something very useful/powerful.

I think.

I know he uses it, and I just wanted to know.

quartata

You've never used vi?

For shame.

ETHproductions

(me neither)

mınxomaτ

I use jed. Sue me

quartata

16:47

@mınxomaτ mkay see you in court

zyabin101

I use notepad. Sue me

quartata

don't turn this into a class-action suit

mınxomaτ

@quartata Funny because I am in law school. Though I wouldn't hold up in an American court I guess. My "International Law" class actually should be titled "European Law and why it is silly whatever America does" (Prof's opinion).

TimmyD

@mınxomaτ I've understood the American civil legal system as "with some paperwork and a filing fee, anyone can sue anyone for anything"

mınxomaτ

That's perfectly fine.

quartata

16:53

@mınxomaτ It's illegal to use anything but vi here in America

So yeah it wouldn't hold up

I guess that would be a criminal legal system thing though.

TimmyD

@quartata s/America/'Murica

quartata

zyabin101

It's legal to use ed the standard command line-by-line editor though. Kappa

quintopia

@quartata i'm fine with abbreviating america, but that apostrophe placement is infuriating

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quartata

@quintopia I'm fine with neither of those things

Since 'murica isn't even the golfiest

clearly US is

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

16:57

Or encode U as one bit and S as another bit, so the entire thing is 2 bits

quintopia

@quartata speech isn't measured in bytes, but in total aggregate tongue, lip and jaw distance traveled. 'murica wins that hands down

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ this would be a hard language to usu

zyabin101

Or encode US as one byte yes, that byte exists! and have the whole thing at one byte. But know, I'm open for suggestions.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quintopia Yes, it would be.

quintopia

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ uus ussuususus

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

What a patriot!

quintopia

17:04

my nonogram solver should be finished by 6pm. i can't help but wonder if sleafar already has an optimal solution in both directions

RikerW

17:45

@quartata Sorry.

I think that @Doorknob and @quartata are the same person.

They both do nethack and vi/vim.

They both use perl.

Case proved.

Hey, I got 7 stars! :P

quartata

what no

RikerW

what yes

quartata

He uses zsh I use bash

big difference

RikerW

Yeah, that is a fake to throw us off your trail.

Doorknob

If I were you, I wouldn't deny it. I would get the SE staff to merge my account into yours, which would give you a diamond :P

RikerW

17:49

^

strawpoll.me/6575735

TimmyD

lol @ results

quartata

@Doorknob I prefer the nemawashi approach to world domination

zyabin101

@Doorknob you don't. :3

RikerW

Without alex: strawpoll.me/6575757

@quartata Then why do you like tourists in nethack, not samurai?

:P

@Doorknob Wait, so you admit it?

quartata

For the record I don't think I'd like living in Texas

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

17:56

^

but they have good shotguns

zyabin101

@RikerW On NetHack: which role do you like? Nightly Interest Survey!

RikerW

Wat?

zyabin101

@zyabin101 I like Valkyries. They are very easy.

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zyabin101

@RikerW I survey people. :P

BlockCoder1392

17:57

^^

welp my challenge is more like a lecture but

wait 800th answer?

quartata

@RikerW Also for the record Doorknob didn't like Perl until I forced him to learn it

BlockCoder1392

900 years later...

RikerW

I am alex, and safari is cool and nethack is dumb.

trichoplax

@BlockCoder1392 No, it's just that there are 800 that haven't been posted and then deleted yet.

RikerW

Whoops, wrong message.

trichoplax

18:00

More than twice that have been posted as sandbox answers

RikerW

Favorite nethack character role? ^

Doorknob

"class" ಠ_ಠ

RikerW

@quartata @Doorknob

zyabin101

Year 2900 where all people in the world play code golf! The time of Linux, peace and open source!

Doorknob

@trichoplax 1989, to be precise.

RikerW

18:01

@Doorknob What then?

is role okay?

Doorknob

@RikerW yes

quartata

role is the appropriate term yes

zyabin101

Let's magically return to the present.

Doorknob

@randomra The question says the truthy output always has to be the same

zyabin101

900 years ago...

Doorknob

18:02

i.e. it can be any truthy value, but there are only 2 possible outputs

zyabin101

Year 2000 where there is a place where people play code golf. The time of Windows, war and proprietary software.

randomra

I see, my bad

Optimizer

Over 9000 milliseconds ago...

zyabin101

Let's magically return to the future.

@Optimizer that doesn't work.

Optimizer

?

zyabin101

18:04

97 years later...

We failed to move to the future. I and @Optimizer used up their only power for today.

Oh, and @BlockCoder1392 used his power to a good minute. We will remember this minute in our lives.

BlockCoder1392

Wat was that ping 4

zyabin101

@BlockCoder1392 see above

BlockCoder1392

Wat was that ping 4?

zyabin101

@BlockCoder1392 see further farther further above

BlockCoder1392

Wat. Was. Dat. Ping 4.

zyabin101

18:17

runs away

BlockCoder1392

What was dat

Optimizer

pi ng fo ur

zyabin101

@Optimizer see 50 posts above Kappa

Optimizer

see kappa

zyabin101

It's an emote! I won't go post the correct link again! Search Kappa in the search box in the sidebar.

quartata

18:41

It really drives me nuts that this still shows up in the "Most close votes" section of the mod tools:

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Q: A Yoda-speaking challenge, this is

The challenge Well, I think it is quite clear, isn't it? You have to make a function or a program that takes a string as an argument and outputs the corrispondent Yoda-speaking. This is code-golf, so least number of bytes wins. The input The input could be any string without linefeed. You can...

code-golf natural-language

TimmyD

@quartata Close this challenge, they could not.

RikerW

18:57

@Doorknob do over:

strawpoll.me/6576456

@quartata ^

Nathan Merrill

I want to make a challenge where you write a program that generates regex (that matches one list, but not another)

but scored based on regex length

instead of program length

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Meta regex golf *_*

RikerW

Think we have a regex golf one.

mınxomaτ

@RikerW What is a nethack?

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Nathan Merrill

would it be a dup of this: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/17718/meta-regex-golf

(that one scores by program length)

RikerW

19:00

@mınxomaτ Google always helps, and @Doorknob or @quartata will be happy to explain.

I am supposed to be taking a test right now.

mınxomaτ

That was just a comeback to your vi question ...

RikerW

Oh, okay. :P

It did get one star.

quartata

Just found this on xkcd:

imgs.xkcd.com/verizon_billing.mp3

verizon math

I think I just lost an IQ point

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

xD

TimmyD

Is that the "point zero two cents" vs "point zero two dollars" call?

Or w/e the number was

quartata

19:07

Yes

After two hours of xkcd bingeing I think I have found the most accurate xkcd ever:

Or the pressure at the Earth's core will rise slightly.

Actually, there's probably a more accurate one.

zyabin101

@RikerW Anonymous poll *_*

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata What does it actually come out to, his estimation?

quartata

I don't know what the Prius's MPG is.

But this "good enough it's a law" mentality is something I do remember from dimensional analysis

RikerW

19:32

@zyabin101 I wish it wasn't. :(

BlockCoder1392

um wat

Ashwin Gupta

Hmm, im guessing that joke is supposed to be funny. Its too bad I don't get it :(

Honestly can't wait to take real math classes I hate seeing stuff I don't get

quintopia

@quartata this seems like an especially difficult formula to come up with. I wonder which one was the "I need a number with this value." My bet is on the english channel one, since googling things measured in units of distance seems the simplest

Ashwin Gupta

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Q: Why does my infinite cause the rest of the program to freeze even though its on a separate thread?

I was trying to write a little gravity simulation program. You specify a velocity and angle then it does the math and I used Java2D to draw it real time. The program itself works, I tested it out and it was beautiful. However, I did a little bit of restructuring for clarity purposes and now I'm h...

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Can someone help me out with that ^

zyabin101

19:49

@AshwinGupta This is not the place to discuss general programming questions.

Here is a place to:

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...

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FlagAsSpam

See edit two. :c

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