The Nineteenth Byte

RikerW

00:02

Still waiting for somebody to fix the thing described in my Meta SE post. :(

23

I realized the other day on SciFi & Fantasy SE that the upvote message is misleading. I had joined and asked a question, this one if you were wondering, and tried to upvote an answer. It gave me a message saying that my upvotes would not be shown until I had 15 rep. Okay, I understand ...

Thank you kind upvoter.

TanMath

@quartata you there?

RikerW

shrugs

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

RikerW

Ooh, cool.

Really, really nice.

But maybe red glow for the down vote?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I didn't know what to make the active boats, so I did the green accent.

@RikerW Nice!

RikerW

00:10

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Good idea.

What photo editor do you use?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

thanks :D

@RikerW this one

undergroundmonorail

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ the ones on the right hurt my eyes

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Turn down the glow?

RikerW

@undergroundmonorail Really?

undergroundmonorail

they're trying to focus but they can't

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ this would probably work

RikerW

00:11

@undergroundmonorail That is because it is out of focus because of the glow.

I like it, but if it hurts your eyes we should turn it down.

undergroundmonorail

@RikerW i understand why it just hurts haha

i think it looks pretty good it just also causes physical pain

RikerW

@undergroundmonorail lol, same way with my migraines

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ignore the little arrows peaking out from behind the boats:

undergroundmonorail

that's good

RikerW

?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:13

^^^^^

RikerW

Oh, sorry.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

np

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Seems dece.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

quartata

Hmm... what should the check mark be?

I suppose if you want to keep with the Game of Life theme it could be a glider at a certain angle

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:19

Maybe...

Post it on the thing

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Q: Graduation Design Ideas

Programming Puzzles & Code Golf will someday graduate out of public beta, and it will get a new site design. Stack Exchange employees generally do all the design work and make the design decisions, but that doesn't mean we can't nudge them in the right direction when the time comes. This meta po...

discussion beta-status

quartata

Also did you ever figure out what's up with the header

TanMath

@quartata are you ignoring me?

quartata

No

I was at lunch

TanMath

then why haven't you responded when you were in the room?

RikerW

Because he just got in.

quartata

00:21

Because I don't know what the issue with your Pyth thing is

TanMath

ok... bye!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata I think @PhiNotPi solved it

Bye @TanMath

TanMath

it was a joke @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh

:P

TanMath

I am not actually going to leave!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:22

\o/

RikerW

Really! Never would have guessed. /s

Gone yet?

:P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ಠ_ಠ

piss I killed the sprite sheet

Oh, because it's too large

RikerW

lol. But i feel your pain bruther

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

thanks

O_O skewing it back to the regular size kills the image

let's try that again

New Main Posts

0

Q: Conjugate in the Spanish imperfect / Conjugue en el imperfecto de indicativo

Given an input of a Spanish verb in its infinitive form, output the verb conjugated in all 6 forms of the indicative imperfect. To conjugate an infinitive in the imperfect, remove the infinitive ending (-ar, -er, -ir, and sometimes -ír) and add the imperfect endings listed below. There are three...

code-golf

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:31

o-o

RikerW

Thank you, @NewMainPosts.

TanMath

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ????

RikerW

Does anyone find my thank you's to be weird?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

The Spritesheet died

Doorknob

@RikerW yes

RikerW

00:32

Shut up then.

El'endia Starman

@NewMainPosts Just for a moment, I wondered if a new user had posted a wildly off-topic question. Then I saw the avatar...

Doorknob

> than

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

chat.stackexchange.com/…

TanMath

@NewMainPosts gracias a @NewMainPosts para tu post

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

RikerW

00:33

@TanMath too green.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Doorknob

@TanMath I think you have a problem with tabs

TanMath

@Doorknob don't look!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

It's sorta workign o_O

Calvin's Hobbies

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ @Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Phi's been doing stuff too. I think having one core userscript posted on the meta question seems like a good idea, if everyone can agree on what goes in it.

El'endia Starman

00:34

@Doorknob Mine would be like that too if I didn't have two monitors. :P

J Atkin

@Doorknob One time I had over 50 tabs on 2 browsers...

Calvin's Hobbies

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ The boats look like faces :P

trichoplax

@RikerW Not as weird as the apostrophe in "you's" :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Calvin'sHobbies Phi's is vastly different from the one I've been working on o_o

RikerW

@trichoplax I know, but I don't care. :P

quartata

00:35

@NewMainPosts Les verbes de espagnol? Pourquoi pas les verbes de français?

TanMath

ok, now I am really going to go...bye!

Doorknob

I still have no idea why you're all making userscripts. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ !

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I cannot take this background-image crap

RikerW

00:35

@Doorknob Cause fun. :P

quartata

Hmm... the upvote button looks off-center

TanMath

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ que es 1 11 54?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata And the badges are gone

quartata

huh

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TanMath Je parle francais, merci beacoup

Calvin's Hobbies

00:35

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Alright :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I think they're different submissions

quartata

@TanMath Badges

TanMath

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yo hablo espanol..Yo no hablo francés

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TanMath What a shame

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Also I don't think the sarcasm of "very much" is idiomatic in French :P I wouldn't know though

Doorknob

00:36

.i ma lo ro do cu jimpe la .jbobau. .i .u'i

J Atkin

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You can fix the light blue bit on the sides of the title bar with this

.container {
    box-shadow: none;
}

quartata

1 min ago, by quartata

@NewMainPosts Les verbes de espagnol? Pourquoi pas les verbes de français?

@Doorknob you and your lojban

Doorknob

> lojiban

ಠ_ಠ

quartata

or whatever that thing is

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

bajeepers I got four pings in the space I went to edit a line of code

Calvin's Hobbies

00:36

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ btw I gathered all site's sprites here. Looks like the vote buttons are only different colors depending on if they're active

RikerW

What is it @Doorknob?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Calvin'sHobbies I thought that, too. Trying to style the thing green (as was with the theme) did not look good on a downvote button. :P

RikerW

the language i mean

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

It's fixable

Doorknob

.i doi @RikerW do na'e jimpe ma

RikerW

00:37

is it lojban?

quartata

*lojban

Doorknob

There's no such thing as "lojiban" :P

quartata

I typo'd

Doorknob

.i mi co'a citka .i co'o ro do

(I'm gonna eat now, bye :P)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

bye!

FUN FACT: 1 in 4 scots believe in the loch ness monster

quartata

00:40

@Doorknob Prenez votre langue bizarre avec vous.

RikerW

You a scot?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Hell no

I'm Irish

FTW

quartata

Obviously irish

> O'Brien

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

And Conor.

RikerW

I know that. it was sarcasm. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:42

Sarcasm doesn't carry well over the interwebs. Use </sarcasm> or </sarc>.

;)

RikerW

> You a scot? /s

better?

:P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

You just matched another whitespace character :P

RikerW

I know regexes and sarcasm.

I should put that in my profile description. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

#4eac68 a good color for active cells in the up/down boat?

RikerW

YES!!! I love teal and its descendants. :P

That is close enough. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:46

okay, that's 1

@quartata ^^^^

RikerW

@quartata

Lets ping @quartata

Whee!!! @quartata

quartata

Stawp

RikerW

Stopping now @quartata

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^^^^^

RikerW

Sorry. :P

quartata

00:47

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Try the same color as the meta box first just to see what it looks like

I think it'll need to be something brighter

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ok

than #4eac68!?

quartata

Yeah sure

I'd like to see them both

Meanwhile I'll pick a third option

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ok

RikerW

rgb(36,171,126)

Pls?

quartata

Nah too dark

It needs to be something flashy

RikerW

00:50

maybe <blink><marquee>rgb(36,171,126)</blink></marquee>?

:P

quartata

#0BDA51

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

quartata

awsum thx

Which color is this?

RikerW

Yay!!!

#0BDA51

quartata

I think this is the meta box color, right?

RikerW

00:51

No, closer to #4eac68 i think.

Maybe though.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ answer us!

J Atkin

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I know it looks a bit like Code Review, but what do you think?

gist.github.com/JJ-Atkinson/2fa1fa0d80e1a31e0fca

RikerW

Too code review

quartata

I have an idea

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^

quartata

Grayscale version of one of these:

363

A: Images with all colors

C# I put a random pixel in the middle, and then start putting random pixels in a neighborhood that most resembles them. Two modes are supported: with minimum selection, only one neighboring pixel is considered at a time; with average selection, all (1..8) are averaged. Minimum selection is somew...

J Atkin

00:52

The thing is that code review looks good

quartata

The thing is that code review is our nemesis

RikerW

Yes, but they are evil!!

ninjaed

J Atkin

Why?

RikerW

Cause.

J Atkin

Cause...

quartata

00:53

Because they graduated first.

RikerW

^

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

^

J Atkin

Oh

RikerW

Plus they have no appreciation for short code. :P

quartata

Short version of the story: There was a contest between PPCG and CR (two sites that were in beta for notoriously long times) to see who would graduate first. CR won. We're still pissed.

Calvin's Hobbies

00:54

@JAtkin Yeah, too code reviewy :P Maybe if they were tiled hexagons or triangles?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

So we raided them. mwuhahahaha

RikerW

I like hexagons.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^^ hexagons and ^

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@JAtkin I also put a green tint on the background to make it a bit different. I'm too lazy to redesign as hexagons

Calvin's Hobbies

@MartinBüttner would enjoy hexagons

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:55

fixing spacing

RikerW

@Calvin'sHobbies I would too.

:P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

And yes, I'm using this chat/imgur as hosting

El'endia Starman

@quartata I know Blender!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ :D

WE ARE SAVED

RikerW

^^ ish

J Atkin

00:56

I would LOVE a hexagon green tinted bg image...

RikerW

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Make it glowier. I liked the glow.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Maybe hexagons for the stars?

RikerW

Yes. ^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Too dark

quartata

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:56

That was the meta one, with a = 1

quartata

Background?

Maybe too flamboyant.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

That's.... yeah

RikerW

I want green glow. I want green glow. I want green glow. I want green glow.

J Atkin

I see a small line artifact one the upvote, upper left.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

OK FINE ^^

RikerW

00:57

Thanks.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@JAtkin o_o

quartata

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Everyone's a purist

@quartata Is that from the "every RGB color challenge?"

quartata

Yes.

J Atkin

If you can do it, do it right!! ;)

quartata

00:58

They don't have to be grayscaled, I'm just seeing what they look like.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

quartata

Some kind of palette swap might be interesting.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ We could make a challenge out of it. People get unlazy when they start competing ;)

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

^ attempt of hexagon star buttons

quartata

00:58

The first one was a coral version the second one was unsorted

@El'endiaStarman Cool!

Can you make us a little jigsaw piece?

J Atkin

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ I like!

J Atkin

Grayscale this and tile it left to right.

El'endia Starman

@quartata Example to aim for?

quartata

Yeah sure one second.

RikerW

01:01

Thanks @El'endiaStarman.

quartata

I think they should look like the Jiggies from Banjo-Kazooie:

Obviously not that texture

I just mean the shape

It's a fairly iconic jigsaw piece shape

@JAtkin ?

Calvin's Hobbies

@quartata I see Mickey...

quartata

Elendia was asking for a reference.

RikerW

@Calvin'sHobbies Same. :P

quartata

So that he would know what kind of shape we wanted.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

01:03

where are the beta site sprites? I can't seem to find them...

quartata

I'm starting to think we should maybe have a separate room for this.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

They don't have any ^^

@quartata perhaps

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ which color is this?

RikerW

I still liked the ambient glow for the vote buttons.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@RikerW's OD something

Calvin's Hobbies

01:04

@quartata I can do that

quartata

I'm thinking it's a little too... minty

@Calvin'sHobbies mkay

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

mehhh

J Atkin

@RikerW Ditio

RikerW

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/33840/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

01:05

Found it!

cdn.sstatic.net/beta/img/sprites.svg?v=78be897a4f09

J Atkin

I was using that earlier

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QUART ^^^^^^

Ampora

Why are we coming up with ideas for a graduation design? Have I missed something, or have we decided to rise en masse against the Stack Overflow bourgeoisie and demand our graduation?

4

RikerW

Continue discussion here:

2 mins ago, by RikerW

PPCG Graduation Design Discussion

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Ampora Pretty much.

Except more passive-aggressive

quartata

01:12

We aren't just coming up with ideas, we are actually implementing them

Ampora

Instead of graduating we must dethrone Jeff Atwood and replace him with Jon Skeet.

3

quartata

It is our way of showing SE that we don't need no stinking graduation

2

Ampora

At least not for another 10 months

BlockCoder1392

PPHG

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

HG?

BlockCoder1392

01:20

hacker ???s

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh

hacker golf, of course

BlockCoder1392

Yup

Wait...

PPPG :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

P3G. Golfing here!

BlockCoder1392

Programming Puzzles and Perl Golf. Bowling here!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o_____o

Doorknob

01:34

O @AlexA., master judge of phallicness: n/10 how phallic is my new profile picture?

2

(that would look really weird out of context)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

indeed e_e

Dennis

@Doorknob Oh, look, it's Doorknob.

Doorknob

ಠ______ಠ

Dennis

Why the long nose? I emphasized knob because it actually looks like a knob now...

Doorknob

Mmhmm, sure... :P

Dennis

01:38

Doorknob != Door"knob"

Door"knob" == Doorwood

Calvin's Hobbies

Come discuss mods:

PPCG Graduation Design Discussion

We are here to discuss the design for PPCG when it graduates. ...

Doorknob

Why would you discuss us in the graduation design room?

Dennis

Are we discussing the date? Because I heard something about November 1.

Calvin's Hobbies

Oct 22 '15 at 14:14, by Calvin's Hobbies

@Geobits November 17th. Mark your calendars.

Dennis

Why is quartatatots' avatar the proposed vote button?

Calvin's Hobbies

01:43

It's not

BlockCoder1392

It's not...

Proposed is boat, that is glider

Doorknob

Dennis didn't say "quartata." You didn't know that we have a user called "quartatatots?"

SuperJedi224

@Doorknob No we don't.

Ampora

Do the people in charge of designing stuff know what we're doing, and if so, have they said anything? This is very interesting to observe and contribute to

Doorknob

@SuperJedi224 Uhhh... brb making account

@Ampora Why would the Stack Overflow mods care about this?

Dennis

01:45

^

BlockCoder1392

^

Ampora

The people in charge of designing stuff

BlockCoder1392

...

Doorknob

I'm pretty sure the Stack Overflow moderators don't do designing

Calvin's Hobbies

@Ampora I don't think so. I'm not sure how to contact them. Chris is not even pingable anymore

Doorknob

01:46

SE staff patrol per-site metas.

3

Dennis

I must say, everything that has been proposed so far for the new design looks a lot better than what they did to poor Cryptography.

6

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doorknob Wh star so sudly?

Doorknob

I had the same question

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Me too

PhiNotPi

TBH, I don't really see anything glaringly bad with the crypto.se design. The favicon isn't that good, but most of it seems pretty okay.

Doorknob

01:56

^

Well, and the logo's a bit odd, but...

Dennis

And the... dirt on the background. And the inconsistent use of fonts. And the horrendous badge icons...

Calvin's Hobbies

Hmm, I always thought the bg was random martix like characters, not that bad logo

quartata

02:16

@Doorknob er excuse me

Doorknob

what you didn't see anything

BrainSteel

I see everything

quartata

02:31

@Doorknob meta.stackexchange.com/questions/272377/…

This is a dupe of something but I can't remember

Can you help me out here?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Good night

:D

Doorknob

02:56

211

Q: Distinguish close votes by reason

Even though a question may be closed by receiving 5 close votes, the votes do not necessarily need to agree. I think this is a good behavior, but recently I voted to close a question for being an exact duplicate (which it was) and found the question was closed as "not a real question". This is ...

feature-request vote-to-close close-reasons attribution

quartata

I already found it lmao

Doorknob

oh

quartata

Just waiting for a mod to notice my flag pls

Doorknob

MSE mods don't exist

quartata

> marked as helpful

> not closed

wtf mse

Doorknob

02:58

That's because I close voted it as the same thing

quartata

I can't see close votes which makes me feel strange

I'm suffering from "phantom dupehammer" syndrome here

I keep reaching to my non-existent pack of close votes

PPCG Graduation Design Discussion

PPCG Graduation Design Discussion

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