The Nineteenth Byte

Sherlock9

16:00

I keep thinking I've got them all and one or two more pop up! They're like computer bugs!

Thanks a bunch for your help @MartinBüttner. Let me know if you find any more problems with the spec

J Atkin

@quartata Same here, I think it is counted in UTC

Martin Büttner

@quintopia do you have your email address published somewhere or do I have your permission to fish it out of the PII of your PPCG account? ;)

7 mins ago, by Martin Büttner

@quartata all date based hats start 14 hours befor ethe UTC day and end 12 hours after it.

BlockCoder1392

^ This is because the time zones range from -12 (Uninhabited US Territories) to +14 (Line Islands of Kiribati)

SuperJedi224

Which is weird.

BlockCoder1392

nope

tips-for-golfing-in-scratch-or-other-random-block-based-programming-languages

Martin Büttner

16:13

Tip: don't.

quartata

^

quintopia

@MartinBüttner it's just my username on gmail

quartata

Oct 22 at 16:36, by Dennis

Also, if you actually create alex-is-right and alex-is-wrong on main, Doorknob may slap you with a large trout.

Martin Büttner

@quintopia convenient

quartata

Jul 6 at 23:10, by Doorknob

Also if you make overhanded a thing I'll whack everyone involved with a large trout

Don't make that giant tag please

BlockCoder1392

16:15

-1

quintopia

@quartata deletes the WIP challenge

quartata

@quintopia ?

quintopia

nvm

BlockCoder1392

tips-for-making-a-random-keyboard-asdf-qwertyuiop-asdfghjkl-zxcvbnm-hello-world-new-main-posts-s-posts-keep-getting-edited-blah-foo-bar-baz-quux-alex-is-wrong-and-oh-wait-nineteenth-byte-is-talking-about-random-stuff-hey-its-not-dec-twentyfive-yet-but-i-still-got-the-hat-winterbash-2015

Martin Büttner

@quintopia should be on its way.

quartata

16:18

Stack Overflow Gives Back 2015

Robert Cartaino on December 23, 2015

It's that time of year again — a time when we reach out beyond the Stack Exchange community to remember the organizations and people who desperately need our help. Each year, we set aside this time and offer to make a $100 donation to charity on behalf of each moderator representing their community.

So wait the moderators pick the charities?

Dennis

Yes.

quartata

That's cool.

Sherlock9

@MartinBüttner I should really make a sherlock9 email at some point. All of my current emails have my name in them somewhere

BlockCoder1392

try-to-get-your-byte-count-as-close-as-possible-to-19

wizzwizz4

@Sherlock9 Even I have my own wizzwizz4 email address!

Sherlock9

16:21

There's only a few people on here who use their names openly right? Alex, Peter, Martin and so on

BlockCoder1392

not me :P

Dan Pantry maybe?

wizzwizz4

My real name is wizzwizz4.

Dennis

@Sherlock9 Wait, your name isn't Sherlock?

<- Also, that guy.

wizzwizz4

dennis-derp

quartata

@Dennis Just out of curiosity, do you actually get Dennis The Menace in newspapers in Paraguay?

Sherlock9

16:25

@Dennis And your name is Dennis?

I'll get to making sherlock9 or sherlock_9 @ gmail, soon. I have too many things connected to my two emails anyway, and too many things with that username

BlockCoder1392

My name's BlockCoder 1392.

SuperJedi224

Goodbye for now.

wizzwizz4

@Sherlock9 Why gmail?

Sherlock9

I like gmail

Dennis

@quartata No, we do not. I have a lot of old comic books though. They belonged to my dad.

quartata

16:28

Ah

Sherlock9

It's personal preference and let's not start email wars or something

Dennis

@Sherlock9 Yes, it is. (I had that username long before the avatar.)

Sherlock9

@Dennis Ah ok. I'm just a big Sherlock fan and the name stuck.

wizzwizz4

@Sherlock9 Ok, but tosdr.org/#google is just for their services in general. Gmail has more...

Then again, don't go with Yahoo!: tosdr.org/#yahoo

quintopia

@Sherlock9 which sherlock?

Sherlock9

16:30

I'm debating saying my first name on the Internet. After all, this chat is public forever

wizzwizz4

@Sherlock9 Just don't.

Sherlock9

@quintopia Conan Doyle, RDJ and BBC, though I haven't read all of Conan Doyle

Martin Büttner

@Sherlock9 wasn't there supposed to be a holiday special set in the original era?

quintopia

i like the original, but i'm also partial to RDJ

BlockCoder1392

Someone sould create something with a password to sign up in the tos so people won't skip it

Sherlock9

16:33

I edited my message to reflect that RDJ RULES!

Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman are great as well

quintopia

lol

Dennis

@BlockCoder1392 There's a service nobody would ever use.

BlockCoder1392

ehh

for example:
... Section 9001: To sign up, use this 129129129130 ...
and then...
What was the password in the tos? [129129129130]
Sign up! Email: [[email protected]] Password for this service: [·············]

Dennis

bugmenot.com

BlockCoder1392

uh wut

It barred itself!???!

Dennis

16:43

Yes, because bugmenot.com is not a bugger.

BlockCoder1392

I typed something random for codegolf.SE

Martin Büttner

@quintopia so what did you need the EsoIDE for? :)

quartata

16:58

@Dennis why did you make Bubblegum satisfy our definition of a programming language when it doesn't need to?

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Q: Should answers to fixed-output challenges be written in a programming language?

We have a definition of what we consider a valid programming language for answers on PPCG. (If you disagree with this definition, please do so on that other post, and not here.) The one type of challenge where people regularly tend to ignore this is for challenges with fixed output, i.e. mostly ...

Dennis

Mainly to prevent countless interactions like the one from yesterday.

quartata

If this policy is true, btw, then there are a lot of deleted HW answers that can be undeleted

one second

Actually there are only two...

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/55422/hello-world/…

BlockCoder1392

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

No More 2015! code-golf string-manipulation The Rules Each submission must be a full program. The program must take all instances of the string 2015 from the input (1 string), replace it with <s>2015</s> and put an asterisk next to it. At the end, if there has been at least one 2015 in the str...

^ halp

quartata

don't post it yet I haven't added regex to pl

BlockCoder1392

...

feedback?

I AM BLOCK FEED ME BUTTER

i want feed back

quartata

17:07

Oh.

Well I mean it looks OK

quintopia

@MartinBüttner Its implementation of Quipu. I can't understand it from the wiki examples

New Sandboxed Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

No More 2015! code-golf string-manipulation The Rules Each submission must be a full program. The program must take all instances of the string 2015 from the input (1 string), replace it with <s>2015</s> and put an asterisk next to it. At the end, if there has been at least one 2015 in the str...

BlockCoder1392

lol

ninja'd

(Some mod change it to "I AM BOT FEED MY BUTTER")

SuperJedi224

Hello

BlockCoder1392

look at my sandboxed posts

quintopia

17:12

@MartinBüttner maxichallenge: give so many bountiesin 2016 that Dennis has the most rep on the site--without giving any bounties to Dennis. @Dennis is allowed to give bounties to prevent you from succeeding as long as he doesn't give them to you.

BlockCoder1392

...

Dennis

@BlockCoder1392 Fixed.

BlockCoder1392

10 hours and 9001 bots who want butter later...

quartata

@BlockCoder1392 *blocks

BlockCoder1392

...

quartata

17:17

> Dennis 5:15 PM edited: I AM BLOCK FEED ME BUTTER

SuperJedi224

@NathanMerrill Hello

quartata

Interesting

And delicious

Martin Büttner

@quintopia I'm pretty sure that Dennis will manage that all on his own ;)

BlockCoder1392

Is there a language allowing no clocsing brackets

quartata

@BlockCoder1392 ?

There are languages where blocks are implicitly closed EOF

But I mean there aren't really languages with no closing brackets whatsoever

Actually strike that

pl in a couple updates will have that for one particular case

But not normal languages

BlockCoder1392

17:23

OK

Nathan Merrill

@SuperJedi224 hi

for those who read my newest challenge (Maximal Substring Construction)

is it too hard?

Martin Büttner

there was no time/complexity limit, right?

so you could just brute force it.

Nathan Merrill

I did have a time restriction

Martin Büttner

oh there is

right

in that case, I can't tell

Nathan Merrill

the last example is not brute forceable

I did brute force it to get the answer, and it took over an hour

:P

BlockCoder1392

17:25

stealth pings don't work anymore unless someone gets pinged by this

Martin Büttner

@NathanMerrill hm, 9M strings... does that really take an hour?

@BlockCoder1392 that's been fixed for a few weeks.

BlockCoder1392

Yeah

Nathan Merrill

hmmm

I know it took a bit

Martin Büttner

@NathanMerrill why is ABCD not a valid output for 4 [("A", 1), ("BAB", 2), ("ABCD", 3)]?

BlockCoder1392

What are you talking about

quintopia

17:39

@MartinBüttner Then it should be a competition between you two to see who can give away more rep in a year :P

Martin Büttner

@quintopia tell that Dennis. I do occasionally give out generous bounties. ;)

wizzwizz4

@BlockCoder1392 You could try remote stealth pings... They don't work yet, but next update they might put the ~~feature~~ bug in ~~to help us have fun~~ by mistake.

Timwi

O Tannenbaum, O Tannenbaum...

BlockCoder1392

@wizzwizz4 what?

quintopia

@MartinBüttner no one said you didn't. the question is whether you've ever COMPETED to do so :P

quartata

17:47

@Dennis just released an update to pl

Dennis

@quartata Pulled.

quartata

in pl, 1 min ago, by quartata

I've added regex, pack and unpack, conditionals, flatten, sum and product of a list, ord and chr and soundex.

@Dennis Thanks!

Martin Büttner

@NathanMerrill I'd recommend using a larger test case

I've got a brute force CJam solution which solves it in 4 minutes.

quartata

Next on the agenda: loops, map and reduce

Gonna be good

quintopia

@MartinBüttner EsoIDE appears to run successfully thx

Martin Büttner

17:50

@quintopia you'll have to take the list length as an additional input. there's no way to detect EOF

BlockCoder1392

15 mins ago, by BlockCoder1392

What are you talking about

quintopia

so it's "do nothing on EOF"?

Martin Büttner

it pushes an empty string

@BlockCoder1392 with Nathan about his substring challenge, but quintopia about the Quipu challenge

BlockCoder1392

Can I post the 2015 => 2016 challenge

Martin Büttner

(and the Quipu language)

quartata

17:52

You should leave it in the sandbox for 72 hours just as a general rule of thumb

← 2 messages moved from pl

BlockCoder1392

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Q: Maximal Substring Construction

In this challenge, you are passed two things: A string length, N A list of strings, L, each with an assigned point value. Any string that is not passed in has a point value of 0 You need to construct a string of length N such that the sum of all substring points is as large as possible. For...

code-golf string sequence subsequence

( I know)

In Tilt∞, there are 8 accumulators (hence the name, Tilt∞, because a tilted ∞ looks like a 8.

I'm ~~creating~~ planning a new language (series of languages, i guess) called Tilt∞

← 1 message moved from Tilt∞

quintopia

@MartinBüttner Timwi's descriptions of the Quipu commands make a lot more sense than the ones on the esolang page.

@MartinBüttner and there's no way to create an empty string on the stack to compare it with?

wizzwizz4

18:15

Where I am, it's almost Christmas Day.

Only 5 1/2 hours to go until midnight.

At this time of year, we should make websites that run in all browsers. Even in Chrome, and not just in Chrome.

And if you have a Windows machine, I warn you now not to run tlntsvr on your commandline if you value your sanity.

quintopia

an insecure telnet server eh. why does it even need to be there

wizzwizz4

@quintopia It's a very secure telnet server.

BlockCoder1392

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10586]
(c) 2015 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>tlntsvt
'tlntsvt' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>tlntsvr
'tlntsvr' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>`

quintopia

@BlockCoder1392 try an older version of windows

the securest telnet server is one that isn't installed

wizzwizz4

Which version of Windows do you have?

I have 8.1 and NEED to upgrade.

quintopia

18:24

BlockCoder and I have 10

wizzwizz4

D'oh. It was in the command line...

Anyway, on my machine, tlntsvr prevents any new processes from opening.

Yup. Microsoft malware.

Try typing tlntsvr into Win+R.

But make sure you have cmd open in the background or you won't be able to run shutdown /s /t 00 /f.

quintopia

"I warn you now not to run tlntsvr"
"Try typing tlntsvr"

Make up your mind man

wizzwizz4

@quintopia Now I've said what it does, I can't get sued for saying "run it" because you are at the very least as smart as me or you wouldn't have that much rep.

And don't criticize my shaky logic. It's Christmas.

Sherlock9

18:40

@wizzwizz4 Where I am, it's been Christmas Day for 100 minutes

flawr

@Sherlock9 Where are you?

wizzwizz4

@Sherlock9 Woah. Real programmers really don't work 9 to 5.

flawr

Other end of the world?

wizzwizz4

The only time a programmer is up at 9 is if they have been working all night. ☺

Sherlock9

Hahaha ^

wizzwizz4

18:41

It's from Real Programmers. I can't remember the webpage.

Sherlock9

I'm in Jakarta, Indonesia. UTC+7

wizzwizz4

But some of the Moderators on PPCG know it.

Would it get more answers if I called it "Analyse your Christmas chair"?

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Q: Analyse your Chair

This challenge is based on Downgoat's Adjust your chair. Challenge You just adjusted your new chair! It fits you perfectly. However, the wheel is squeaky and you know the repair people will change the adjustment. Problem is, you don't have a ruler, so you'll have to write a program to measure i...

code-golf ascii-art

Adnan

@wizzwizz4 If you include Donald Trump into your title, your question would probably get a lot more upvotes :)

wizzwizz4

@Adnan Who's Donald Trump?

Sherlock9

Bless you for not knowing that awful, awful man

wizzwizz4

18:45

I'm a foreigner, who doesn't speak English properly (even though English originated in my country!)

Adnan

@wizzwizz4 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

wizzwizz4

That isn't actually a smiley face. This is: ☺

Or, if you prefer ☺.

Sherlock9

He was doing a shrug

wizzwizz4

Oldskool ☺☻♥♦♣♠•◘○◙♂♀♪♫☼►◄↕‼¶§▬↨↑↓→←∟↔▲▼

Can't touch this.

Martin Büttner

@quintopia there's no way to do anything with strings except print them

wizzwizz4

18:46

Hammer time

Sherlock9

Or they, if you prefer@Adnan

wizzwizz4

You can't touch this

My my my my

etc.

Adnan

@wizzwizz4 Is that CP437!?!?!?

wizzwizz4

@Adnan The first 31 characters.

The last few are:

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