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6:00 PM
Random aside, in a Ruby answer to a question requiring a program or a function, do I have to put "j=" before a lambda "->"? Assign the lambda to a variable, I mean
 
@VoteToClose In which question are you starting a bounty in?
 
@Sherlock9 No
 
@ΚριτικσιΛίθος @GamrCorps made a MC answer to this question.
 
Thanks @SuperJedi224
 
6:04 PM
bye
 
Are we to assume that questions allow functions by default?
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

DowngoatI thought this would already of been done but I couldn't find a dupe. Find nth palindrome Given a number n, find the nth palindrome in base 10, where n is a positive, integer. OEIS for more reference First 20 palindromes for reference: 0 0 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 7 7 8 8 9 9 10 1...

 
@VoteToClose I would suggest to not post the bounty until I post the answer, just in case you dont actually like it that much
 
^ Yeah, it's not sent yet. xD
 
posted it
This challenge has inspired me to make an MCEdit filter to count bytes.
Doing that now
 
6:14 PM
@GamrCorps Could you add an explanation as to how it works? c:
 
@VoteToClose Sure, give me a few mins to type it up.
 
/me gives a thumbs up.
^ I just realized I had been /meing that totally wrong.
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@VoteToClose @ΚριτικσιΛίθος Byte count and explanation are up.
 
/me is wrong too
 
Snowman didn't just beat JS, it also beat Japt
How
@Doorknob what have you done
 
6:24 PM
I don't know this is not supposed to happen
Snowman was created to be intentionally verbose :/
 
@VoteToClose a fun fact about the program is that the one I just posted is my 3rd attempt, as I opened the other two in 1.8 by mistake (the second time 2 hours ago). So this one that I just posted was my last two hours work.
 
@GamrCorps How did you count that? On second thoughts, how did you build the entire thing in the first place? :)
 
Don't worry, summer will melt down all your (snowman) dreams
 
@Doorknob Well, you failed. Try again?
 
@GamrCorps Awesome. Side-note: What byte counting method did you use?
 
6:25 PM
@ΚριτικσιΛίθος @VoteToClose 1 for command block and {command length} for the commands inside each
 
@quartata Okay. Macaroni. :P
 
@GamrCorps I am already working on such a thing, although it isn't a MCEdit filter
 
It's possible in Macaroni because it has a time instruction, but it's just really annoying
 
@GamrCorps I see 1.9 command blocks: they should be counted as 2 bytes...
 
@GamrCorps But how did you make the entire structure?
 
6:26 PM
@VoteToClose Oops, time for a recount...
 
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A: Palindrome Hello, World

DoorknobMacaroni 0.0.2, 52 bytes print "Greetings, Planet!""!tenalP ,sgniteerG" tnirp A solution that doesn't use comments. (Mostly because Macaroni doesn't have comments...)

 
@ΚριτικσιΛίθος I placed each command block by hand and entered the commands manually
 
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A: Palindrome Hello, World

NinjaBearMonkeyTI-BASIC, 67 bytes "!tenalP ,sgniteerG" "Greetings, Planet!" This works because the last line of a program is displayed on the screen, while the first string is essentially treated as a comment. Each lowercase letter is stored as 2 bytes, and the remaining characters are 1 byte. If I were to ...

You failed. You outgolfed TI-BASIC.
 
;(
 
Try again?
 
6:27 PM
uh
 
:25716926 Its actually 71, and yes
 
Maybe consider something assembly-related?
 
I mean, stuff like only using two or three characters is obviously cheating
 
@quartata That question has my first post in PPCG. c:
 
So is requiring useless bytes for no reason
 
6:28 PM
@GamrCorps heh, I sorta misjudged the amount of blocks you used :)
 
Where did Snowman beat Japt? Can I have a link?
 
SNES Assembly needs 5000 bytes just to get started. Start with something like that and make it more verbose.
 
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A: Legen… wait for it…

DoorknobSnowman 1.0.2, 70 69 bytes ~"Legen... wait for it... "sPvt3600000*#nDnC!*:vt+#nD!#nL;bD"dary!"sP Explanation: ~ Make all variables active. "..."sP Print the first string. vt3600000*#nD Get the number of hours since the Unix epoch. nC Ceiling (round up), giving...

 
@ΚριτικσιΛίθος lol
 
@quartata See, that's just boring. That falls under the "useless bytes" category.
 
6:29 PM
@Doorknob It isn't useless bytes, it's incredibly important.
And there's different ways of init.
 
In the eyes of a new-language-designer, it's useless bytes. :P
 
VBLANK determines the BG and FG mode, so it isn't useless boilerplate in the sense that it contributes to program logic (it isn't something you can copy pasta all the time)
But I guess I see what you mean.
 
...
 
@Doorknob Oh, by the way, Java's boilerplate is now 42 bytes:
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A: Chemical sentences! Decrypting

VoteToCloseJava, 470 bytes interface B{static void main(String[]a){for(int i=0;i<a.length;i++)System.out.print(" ,h,he,li,be,b,c,n,o,f,ne,na,mg,al,si,p,s,cl,ar,k,ca,sc,ti,v,cr,mn,fe,co,ni,cu,zn,ga,ge,as,se,br,kr,rb,sr,y,zr,nb,mo,tc,ru,rh,pd,ag,cd,in,sn,sb,te,i,xe,cs,ba,la,ce,pr,nd,pm,sm,eu,gd,tb,dy,ho,er,t...

 
6:35 PM
@ΚριτικσιΛίθος psshhh use a real terminal
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

randomraSimple Task Solved Thrice You should write 3 programs and/or functions in one language. All of these programs should solve the same task but they all should give different (but valid) outputs. (I.e. for every pair of programs their should be some input which generates different (but valid) sets...

any ideas before posting?
 
-.- I would've mortarboarded if not for the bounty I just posted.
 
@randomra That seems fairly trivial... program #1 is n+1, 2n+1, ..., program #2 is 2n+1, 3n+1, ..., and program #3 is 3n+1, 4n+1, ...
 
@randomra I like the challenge, you might want to add the task used in the examples (or Im just not seeing it)
 
Ladies and gentleman, start your programs!
 
6:41 PM
@Dennis o-o
@randomra Might want to specify that numbers cannot repeat. c:
And will input ever be 1?
 
@Dennis fn main(){println!("vroom vroom");}
 
@VoteToClose "n, greater than 1" and "n distinct positive integers" are in the specs
 
Huh. For some reason, "distinct" didn't register. Never mind. xD
 
@Doorknob I'm hoping there are shorter solutions in the golfing languages than adding an offset, but I might be wrong
 
@VoteToClose I am considering doing @randomra's question in Minecraft, but I am Minecrafted out for the day.
 
6:46 PM
@GamrCorps Is this a hint? :o
 
@VoteToClose hint of what?
 
@randomra First n primes, skipping k, where k is the program number, maybe?
 
@GamrCorps To do one in that language?
 
@VoteToClose Go ahead and try, I know how to do it but Its a matter of whether you can figure it out.
 
%=, duh.
Or using @Doorknob's offset solution.
 
6:49 PM
@Doorknob e.g. I won't disclose my solutions, some people (^) already plan to use yours :D
 
@randomra Me. I may or may not have figured out the code already for it. >.>
@randomra Quick grammar fix: none of them vs. neither of them.
 
both are correct
 
Neither refers to a set of 2 - none refers to a set of 1-∞ length.
Either/or vs all/one of the set.
 
but are you sure of the set size?
i can't seem to find the message you are referring to
 
I like my basic idea of finding different solutions to a problem but usually you can solve it with a couple extra bytes added to the first solution. It would be nice to find a problem where it is not true but I had no luck yet.
 
6:52 PM
you seem to have replied to wrong message
 
No - that's why none would be more correct, because it also refers to 2.
@Optimizer Yeah - just was relating to the conversation about the sandboxed question.
 
maybe he knows its 2
 
all inputs will be 2
D:
 
Bad challenge idea: "When is July 4th?"
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Not tomorrow.
 
6:54 PM
Its when we graduate!
 
@Geobits ^
 
@ThomasKwa Input is the year, output is month and day?
 
I could theoretically do the chemical decrypting challenge in ResPlicate and get all the upvotes
 
@randomra Of course.
 
6:58 PM
@randomra month and date*
well, not really date, but day is confusing.
 
ugh, I was in the middle of typing a comment and decided to close the question while I was writing it, which refreshed the page and nuked my comment ;(
 
also, your reason seems to be less fitting that general programming questions
 
why? It's actually on-topic here if it has a winning criterion
 
although its a text book problem, most likely a homework problem for the person
 
@Optimizer I VTC'd it first. ;)
 
7:02 PM
of course you did
are you extra conscious about VTC'ing due to your name?
 
No - less so.
 
v
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Q: Simple Task Solved Thrice

randomraYou should write 3 programs and/or functions in one language. All of these programs should solve the same task but they all should give different (but valid) outputs. (I.e. for every pair of programs their should be some input which generates different (but valid) sets of output numbers.) The t...

^
 
wow, "Has my milk expired" is related to "Legen... wait for it." challenge
 
@NewMainPosts now I know how to get extra attention for my questions :)
 
as per the site
@Doorknob technically, its impossible that you are lying about it now
 
7:09 PM
FGITW hurts, but occasionally is fun.
 
sighs
 
@Dennis so it would be correct to post an answer where one requires to close the first alert, right?
 
Yes, it would.
 
ok done
still not beating Snow Man though!
 
Is this legal:
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A: Simple Task Solved Thrice

Thomas KwaDyalog APL, 16 15 bytes 1+⊢×⍳ 1+⊢×⍳ 1+⊢*⍳ Note that the first and second programs are the same. For the second, set your index origin to 0, and for the first and third, set it to 1.

 
7:19 PM
No.
 
I'll change it immediately
 
@Optimizer Wouldn't that print immediately if run at 15:00:30?
 
ah damn
well, in my defense, I haven't code-golfed in months! :P
 
bleh, how do I do the third program in less than 7 bytes
No time to think; I'll use Seriously
3
 
So anyone else heard of the new Raspberry Pi Zero?
 
7:30 PM
yes
 
Interestingly, just now it was featured for me.
 
on facebook?
 
Psh, no, on the sidebar of PPCG.
 
@Mego If you made everything vectorize Seriously would be winning Simple Task Solved Twice
 
\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
15
 
7:42 PM
dary!
 
^^Hmm, I wonder what that could mean
It's almost as if you've reached some major milestone
(In all seriousness, congrats!)
 
Thanks! :)
 
Congratulation Dennis (and also for Martin as I missed that)!
 
Congratulations, and thanks for everything you've added to the site!
 
and now martin missed your congrats
@isaacg oh, you mean that pinned message?
 
7:47 PM
haha, he didn't pin it either
 
how do you know?
 
@randomra @isaacg Thanks!
 
@Optimizer because the person who did told me
 
must be Alex.
 
person, not bird
 
7:49 PM
well, Martin is a llama, so Chris?
 
Martin is a llama?
 
ughh, are we doing this again?
 
oh hahaha
 
@Doorknob THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING MY ANSWER!
 
I'm just going through my recent questions and accepting things that I forgot to :P
 
7:52 PM
I know, I just didn't want to miss the opportunity to yell. :P
 
Okay, now my rep is a multiple of 5 again. :D
 
well, that's thanks giving for you!
 
I'm so happy since I know I'm not alone with that obsession.
 
haha
 
21603
you know how I feel right now.
 
7:57 PM
Hmm, I'm 2/3 of the way to Socratic.
(but I don't even have Epic yet, so not even close to Legendary :P)
 
Where can I find Simplex docs?
 
8:36 PM
I got around to fixing this question. Thoughts?
 
@Eridan you've invalidated like... all the answers
 
@Doorknob possibly the most productive thing in recent times here.
 
apart from what Doorknob said and the fact that it's still a popcon, it's actually not a bad challenge now
 
@MartinBüttner Should it not be a popcon?
 
Well apart from the answer invalidating thing, I don't see why it should be a popcon.
 
8:45 PM
in general, make things popcons only when absolutely necessary
 
Oh, I see.
Normal CG now.
 
there is nothing normal about CG
 
Standard CG now
 
loopholes are standard
 
Aren't the loopholes closed by Built in images and importing the PPCG logo are not allowed.?
 
8:47 PM
#1 rule of this chat room: don't listen to the llama.
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Or the bird. :P
 
Nah, the bird is alright.
 
I thought it was Star everything Doorknob says about not starring things.
 
59 mins ago, by Optimizer
well, Martin is a llama, so Chris?
Nov 11 at 20:39, by Optimizer
user image
 
I, um...
 
8:49 PM
at least, I am not hiding it!
 
<pulls cape over eyes to hide that from view>
 
do you want a scarf?
 
Already have one :P
 
oh right!
love your color choice
 
Back on topic, is the PPCG logo challenge good now?
 
8:55 PM
what do you mean by on topic ? o.O
 
if(challengeIsGood()){Optimizer.out.print("Yes");}else{Optimizer.out.print("No")‌​;}
 
@Dennis congratulations
 
Optimizer, you now run Java. Given that all above methods and objects are defined, what is the output?
 
so I am the System?
 
Yes
 
9:03 PM
I think its still too broad for code golf. users have a lot of choice - image, non-pixalated, textual, different colors. etc.
 
Isn't that the point of a graphical output challenge? To see which one of those takes the fewest bytes?
 
@Dennis Congratulations on Legendary
 
s/on/Mr.
 
@quintopia @Sherlock9 Thanks!
 
why don't people wanna trust me ? :(
;.;
 
9:09 PM
Question about chat: Why are unread replies staying unread for me?
 
huh?
 
@Sherlock9 you mean notifications?
 
Yeah
Something like that
 
Refresh the page
 
I guess I need to say something in chat to make them go away
 
9:10 PM
Are you trying to dismiss them from chat.stackexchange.com?
Because that's always been broken.
 
Yep
Oh hahaha
 
Or click on the little red number.
 
Go to a regular site and dismiss them from the SuperCollider instead
 
easiest way is to just leave the room.
 
Ok, next question. How do I treat CG-induced insomnia?
 
9:14 PM
3 mins ago, by Optimizer
easiest way is to just leave the room.
 
It's 4 am in my timezone and I'm still editing answers
 
at least 60 chatters still trust me and listen to me..
 
give it some time...
 
@MartinBüttner ಠ_ಠ
Y U DO DIS TO YOUR SOCK??
 
you're right, I should just delete my sock instead.
 
9:20 PM
as if.
 
9:36 PM
@Eridan Why did you limit the people in your most recent CnR to only using a language once?
 
It seems unnecessary and people are ignoring it anyways.
 
Because that was a requirement on the CnR I drew inspiration from.
Which seems like a pretty weak argument, thinking about it
 
Can haz remove plz?
 
iz removing
 
9:39 PM
Yay
 
iz removd
 
/me gives a thumbs up.
DAMMIT.
I ALWAYS DO THAT WRONG.
grumbles
Side note: @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'm terrible at the Robber's portion of that question. xD I know what you're doing (playing with the cheaty six-point precision), but past that, I have noo clue.
 
For your next CnR I'd recommend not doing the "print any string" thing... it's been done a few times, and it's always abused by answers consisting of quasi-random code that happens to produce something complicated. (e.g. the Seed and CJam submissions)
Pick a simple task that doesn't ignore input instead.
 
/me sees nary a rule broken in verbing "thumbs"
 
It doesn't sound right.
It also implies that I am "thumbing" someone, which is just no.
 
9:46 PM
you're thumbing them all up
 
o-o That sounds terrible. Please no. xD
 
@MartinBüttner I just thought of this - A CnR based on number manipulation - given 2^k bytes for some k, create a program that takes a numerical input and produces a result from testcases that the cop provides.
Something like that?
 
Are language specific KOTHs supported?
 
@VoteToClose Only if there's a good reason to be language-specific.
 
@VoteToClose if necessary
@Eridan sandbox it?
 
9:49 PM
@MartinBüttner Will do.
 
I was thinking about making one about Vitsy's class interactions.
 
10:16 PM
@Downgoat Is your name change planned to be permanent?
 
well, he cant change it for 30 days at least :P
 
Ooh, that reminds me, I can change my name again.
 
@VoteToClose kehehe I've stumped the language maker (≧∇≦)/
 
(\~-.-)~ I could just be saying that so it gets more attention by the community.
Orrrr I have no clue.
But we'll never know. c:
 
10:25 PM
^
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Also, if you're so good, just wait; I'm making another Vitsy entry. c: And this time, I'm not joking around. xD
 
Wait we can submit multiple entries in the sand language?
 
> sand language
What?
 
Same. And yes.
 
Blame mobile autocorrect
⊙ω⊙ moar JavaScript ES6
 
49 mins ago, by VoteToClose
Can haz remove plz?
 
10:28 PM
if I ever make a language, I'm now considering naming it "Sand"
 
That's not a bad idea
 
Because it's like getting sand kicked in your eyes? c:
Or will it be non-golfing? :c
 
Why would anyone make a non-golfing language?
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They can't do anything interesting.
 
🇬🇴🇱🇫 🇹🇭🇪 🇱🇦🇳🇬🇺🇦🇬🇪
Whoa
 
Woo, 3rd message on the starboard
I'm racking up the starma today
 
10:32 PM
The what ❓
 
The rep for stars that I wish existed
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Thomas KwaIs this quadrilateral cyclic? code-golf math geometry In mathematics, a cyclic quadrilateral is one whose vertices all lie on the same circle. In other words, every vertex is on the circumcircle of the other three. Most quadrilaterals are not cyclic. Examples These quadrilaterals are cyclic:...

Thanks for promoting my challenge
 
My pleasure ;)
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Thomas KwaIs this quadrilateral cyclic? code-golf math geometry In mathematics, a cyclic quadrilateral is one whose vertices all lie on the same circle. In other words, every vertex is on the circumcircle of the other three. Most quadrilaterals are not cyclic. Examples These quadrilaterals are cyclic:...

 
10:41 PM
I didn't want to wait for ^, but it looks like it would have been the next post anyway.
 
10:55 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What do you think of allowing Vitsy to execute Java at runtime?
 
@VoteToClose .oO(FWIW, I hate languages that also provide a secondary language as a backdoor. That makes it hard to independently reimplement in a different language. Case in point: GolfScript is very hard to implement in a non-Ruby language; you'd basically have to embed a Ruby interpreter.)
 
Like, local Java classes.
 
One of CJam's greatest advantages is the absence of that kind of nonsense, which makes it easy for me to implement in a different language (C++11, in my case; reference impl is in Java).
 
@ChrisJester-Young Fair enough - the reasoning behind it is mainly about its ability to act like classes. And so I could use Java libraries. c: But okay.
Wanted to tie it back to its mama. xD
 
11:12 PM
@VoteToClose I agree with @ChrisJester-Young; only do that if you are willing to marry Vitsy with java
 
@insertusernamehere I have posted my challenge: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/64929/what-is-that-angle
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You're absolutely right.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I must ask... were you exploiting the bug with quotation markings with that Vitsy answer to the CnR?
Because I'm patching that now and I'm going to ask Dennis to update, so if it exploits, you might need to patch the answer.
/mention that it was used for that version.
In which case the online interpreter comment becomes pointless.
 
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Q: What is that angle?

J AtkinThe goal of this challenge is to determine the angle of a line in a image. Rules on the image: The image background will be white (#FFFFFF) The stroke of the line will be black (#000000) The line will NOT be anti-aliased The image will be 100x100 pixels The line will start at the center of th...

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Q: Which is the closest train station?

Hand-E-FoodGoal Write a full program that generates a map showing the local train stations and which train station is the closest to every point on the map. Requirements Input A set of tuples. The first is the (Width,Height) dimensions of the map. The following tuples are the (X,Y) coordinates of each...

 
@Dennis Update for Vitsy just happened, bug fixes and such.
 
11:34 PM
@VoteToClose yeah it does
;)
 
Thought so. I've known about that bug for a while. ;) Didn't want to fix it, but I learned that I needed the numbers for those characters.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Alright, just leave a note that people should use the safe mode jar at the date it was posted.
 
" the numbers"?
 
4 8 15 16 23 42?
 
I am so confused
 
11:43 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

HSchmaleQuiddler Quiddler is a card game where you try to create words from letter cards drawn from a deck. A word is defined as being more than 2 cards in length. Sometimes letters are combined on cards in this game, however that will not be the case in this challenge. Your mission is to write a progr...

 
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hello all!
 
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