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23:00
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you should also fix that
No more localhost. ಠ_ಠ
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I've downvoted a linked false answer and an answer that was invalid but accepted as an answer.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ downvotes are as important as, if not more important than, upvotes
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Anonymous
23:00
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@Doorknob Janitors are important too. Yet you don't have to be one.
I've downvoted 406 times.
Anonymous
(a caret seemed wrong for this discussion)
We need sideways votes. I want to officially declare that an answer is "meh".
ʏᴇs ʏᴏᴜ ᴅᴏ
@Rainbolt That's called neither voting up nor down. ;)
@Seadrus why you take my small caps :P
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ well, that's right, you don't have to
Hmm. I'm gonna make a custom keyboard entry for small caps. o-o
23:02
@VoteToClose ᴀʙᴄᴅᴇғɢʜɪᴊᴋʟᴍɴᴏᴘǫʀsᴛᴜᴠᴡxʏᴢ
S is unmodified
I'd find it anyway. :P
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I think that's missing the point though. Not everyone has a responsibility to be a janitor, but since the Stack Exchange network is moderated by the users, once you have expanded privileges, you have a responsibility to help better the community. Do you have to? No. But it's an important aspect of the SE network.
@AlexA. Granted. If you're in America and can vote, you know that you don't have to. And it is often the case that you might not vote. And yet voting is likewise important.
Yes, that's a good analogy. (I always vote though. ;))
As an aside, #bernie2016
@Doorknob I feel like @Geobits was the one to star this.
23:04
(insert rant about how America != USA here)
@Dennis Ourmerica is best merica.
@AlexA. Not a bad choice ;)
@AlexA. (insert anti-political opinionation of moderator rant here) ಠ_ಠ
@AlexA. (I don't actually think that, btw. -.-)
23:06
We all agree anything is better Trump, right?
Anonymous
We all agree that politics are almost-surely off-topic for 19th Byte, right?
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@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ There are worse options.
@SuperJedi224 Who?
@Mego Agreed.
@Mego it's not like this chatroom is known for being on-topic
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23:06
/me flags all the political comments. ಠ_ಠ
@VoteToClose It's my opinion. I have no qualms with voicing my opinion, though I didn't intend for it to be a topic of discussion.
@Mego And carrots are?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Alrighty.
carrot.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not the carrots again...
Anonymous
23:08
@AlexA. There's a significant difference between a dumb joke that lasted too long and one of the main 2 topics of flamewars
@Doorknob uh what
I learned my lesson about posting the image. :D People got tired of it.
@Mego vim vs emacs?
@AlexA. I typed stuff in the wrong thing
Anonymous
23:08
@Dennis Sorry, main 3 topics
@Dennis Spaces vs. tabs and vim vs. emacs. :D
Anonymous
Politics, religion, and vim vs emacs
@AlexA. first option for both :P
@TheDoctor I literally cannot handle how adorable this is.
@Doorknob Same ;)
Anonymous
23:09
@AlexA. Spaces vs tabs isn't a flamewar topic, both sides have to have valid arguments
@AlexA. Tabs and nano.
Anonymous
Spaces and Notepad++
@AlexA. You cannot... even?
@Mego If you don't think it's a flamewar topic, you weren't around for the multiple challenges, voting things off topic, etc.
@Dennis tabs and Atom
23:10
Spaces and Atom.
Anonymous
@AlexA. see: trolling
Anonymous
Atom is nice, but I haven't gotten used to it yet
... ahem...have we forgotten gif vs. jif?
Anonymous
Only started using it like a month ago
@Mego !!!!!
23:11
@Dennis when I went to CodeDay and one of the people was presenting, he used nano to edit some text files. My partner and I looked at each other and said "... NANO?!" :P
ATOM == BEST
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman That argument has an easy solution: HTML5 video
@El'endiaStarman my opinion: who cares :P
Jif is peanut butter, GIF is a file format. They are not pronounced the same way.
Anonymous
@TheDoctor I like Atom, I just need to get used to it so I'm as efficient in it as I am in Notepad++
23:11
@Doorknob the average code newb doesn't vim very well, i might imagine
@Mego Which is near synonymous with .webm aaand... .gifv.
@Doorknob What's wrong with nano? :P I actually use that most of the time.
@TheDoctor his presentation was about how he built a cluster computing thingy by hooking up three Arduinos, hardly a "code newb"
@Dennis You should try Atom. I actually really recommend it.
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23:12
@Dennis well, uh, it's... nano :P
haha
Anonymous
As far as pronouncing file extensions, we should take the xkcd approach
Anonymous
Make it unpronounceable
@Doorknob 3 arduinos = ...? like an apple 2 with less ram ??
ever heard of this thing called "fun"
Anonymous
23:13
I hereby dictate that the official file extension for Seriously code is dsjfk
Anonymous
@Doorknob It's Mandatory
@Mego It isn't .srsly?
@Mego -1 should be 3 characters.
@Mego better make it *.qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm
...I like Alex's idea a lot more.
Anonymous
23:14
@AlexA. Actually I've been using .srs
@AlexA. It looks nice. I hope it's a Qt application.
@Dennis It isn't
GTK?
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman -1 no need to run it on DOS
anyone here doing CyberPatriot?
23:14
@Mego File extensions are still usually 3 characters these days...
@Dennis Built on JavaScript. Idk what's running at the lowest level but it's open source, so you can check on GitHub. (It was made by GitHub!)
Anonymous
And by "using .srs" I mean I made one file for testing file input, and use REPL/online normally
> .java
Anonymous
> .c
> Categories=GNOME;GTK;Utility;TextEditor;Development;
23:15
> usually
(insert frowny face)
@Dennis Huh?
> what about unix files with no extension, huh?
23:16
@TheDoctor This bothers me so much
@AlexA. A quote from the .desktop file of Atom. It's GTK.
> .py
Anonymous
> I think you replied to the wrong message
@Dennis Okay. Is that bad?
@Mego oh well
23:16
> .pyc
@AlexA. Not by itself, but it doesn't interface as well with KDE as Qt would.
@El'endiaStarman who even uses pyc
Anonymous
@TheDoctor ಠ_ಠ
> .egg_info
Anonymous
> .wheel
23:17
@TheDoctor It's the compiled version of .py.
> .whl
@El'endiaStarman i knew that
Anonymous
> .gitignore
@Dennis I still think it's worth giving it a try. Looks and feels very nice, and there are packages galore for it.
@Mego That's not a file extension. That's a file name.
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman It's a file extension with a 0-length file name
23:18
uhhh no
Anonymous
@TheDoctor Nope, .git is the folder
.gitignore is not 0-length
^
@Mego no, the dot is for hidden files, not the extension
Anonymous
'.'.join([filename,fileext])
Anonymous
@TheDoctor shh
23:19
@Mego what?
Anonymous
> .class
the file name is .gitignore which is most definitely longer than 0
Anonymous
> .stackdump
Are we just naming file extensions now?
Anonymous
23:20
We're pointing out that @El'endiaStarman's claim that file extensions are usually 3 characters is inaccurate
@AlexA. arguing, not naming
Anonymous
There are a ton of file extensions that are not 3 characters
infinitely many, in fact
@Mego There are a ton^2 of file extensions that are.
@Doorknob in use
23:21
finintely many
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman
@El'endiaStarman oh :P
define "use"?
1 min ago, by El'endia Starman
@Mego how much do file extensions weigh?
Yeah. There are a lot of file extensions of varying length. Who cares.
Anonymous
23:21
@DigitalTrauma 1 gram per byte
@DigitalTrauma planck weight - 1
Anonymous
@TheDoctor I'm too old
@Doorknob See Wikipedia page I've linked twice already... :P
Anonymous
@AlexA. We had to argue about something, the room was too peaceful
@El'endiaStarman sorry I wasn't really following the conversation :P
23:23
I keep getting pinged, what?
oh wait I turned desktop notifications on
LOL.
44 mins ago, by trichoplax
@anOKsquirrel Then the same way to turn it off in fury 5 minutes later
@El'endiaStarman yep
the wind howls...
it was a dark and stormy night
Anonymous
This is what happens when pointless arguments get ended :P
23:30
I'm still waiting for you to concede the victory to me... :P
so now I realize that if I keep having tokens in scg be dicts, it's going to be really frustrating. on with OOP
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman I don't think you understand how us Texans work
Anonymous
Thanks for the star Doorknob
@Mego Ah, right. Everything is bigger in Texas. Including your egos. :P
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman especially our egos
Anonymous
23:35
Mine is the size of a million normal egos
Anonymous
Hence "Mego"
@Mego none of the messages currently on the starboard were starred by me :P
@Mego not always. just most of the time :p
@Mego Wouldn't that be "megaego" though? :P
....."mego" sounds better.
Anonymous
SI prefix abbreviations
Anonymous
23:36
M = Mega
How did we get so many Texans in here?
They invaded.
With their guns.
Anonymous
@AlexA. Seriously
@AlexA. They think Texans have no social life, because everyone thinks that Texans live in the middle of nowhere.
wait, that doesn't make sense
23:37
I don't think that
It happens because Texans have nothing to do :P
That's only West Texas
Which, granted, is the size of quite a few states
Srsly though, take a look at the area around the Mississippi River on Google Maps, satellite view. SO MANY FARMS.
23:38
not everywhere tho!
I assume all Texans drive enormous pickup trucks, wear cowboy hats, and own guns. And I assume at least 60% own cattle.
@AlexA. nope
Disclaimer: I've never been to Texas.
@AlexA. you are very wrong :P
23:39
@AlexA. What states have you visited?
Anonymous
@AlexA. I drive a Chevy 2-door, don't wear hats because they're uncomfortable, and don't own a gun or have a license. No cattle, just cats.
@AlexA. My dad owns cattle. My product owner also owns cattle.
@El'endiaStarman Just the good ones. :P
@Mego Hats suck :p
@Mego I expect the cats are big enough to be cattle.
23:40
hey guys i have a cjam question
@FarazMasroor go!
Is there an operator for less than or equal to?
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman I suspect one of them is half-bobcat, so sort of
@FarazMasroor no
23:40
use >!
Anonymous
@FarazMasroor >!?
okay thanks
@Mego That's kind of a weird emoticon. :P
welcome
and another question, I have a fuzz program written (Fizz for even numbers), heres the code:
Anonymous
23:41
shameless plug Seriously has
1 {_ 10>!}{_ 2%{_}{"Fizz"}?\ )}w;
@Mego Also, this message's id number is divisible by 1000! (Not 1000 factorial.)
@FarazMasroor remove those spaces
Are spaces no-ops in CJam?
@AlexA. ye
23:42
yeah i'll do that but my question is this: the output is 1Fizz3Fizz5Fizz etc, but I want to put the numbers and fizzes onto new lines. I tried doing N"Fizz"N but it didn't work, so how do i put the outputs on enw lines?
@FarazMasroor uh...
going to run your code
So what do you think?
welp, using online one crashes so...
;P
try printing the value using p each time or something
Aha
That was a good idea
1{_10>!}{_2%{_}{"Fizz"}?\)N\}w;
it works?
23:46
Though I think I can shave that down a bit
how do you use p?
dunno
one second
p prints what is onthe stack + newline
doesnt work. does it clear the stack or something?
clears top element
_p
23:50
oh look blue avatars
cant figure it out
Anonymous
I'm considering adding a dict data type to Seriously
@Mego why
Anonymous
@anOKsquirrel Because it would make a lot of things easier and shorter
Anonymous
23:52
A lookup table is a very useful tool
"Why are you implementing this feature?"

"Because it makes programming easier"

"Oh"
yay i got a star
@Mego Seriously why would you do that?
Anonymous
I'm waiting for the day I get cursed out in chat because Seriously uses backticks as function delimiters
23:54
explain what that means please
@FarazMasroor also, use A rather than 10 in your code
Anonymous
In Seriously (the language I made), ` is a function delimiter, like {} in CJam
Anonymous
` is also used for code blocks in chat
oh delimiter like encloses blocks?
@anOKsquirrel good idea too
Anonymous
@FarazMasroor yep
23:57
@El'endiaStarman nice challenge!
Thanks! :)
I'm confused tho
What do you mean by "relatively primes less than n"?
I think he meant "number of integers relatively prime to x, less than or equal to x"
(because currently the wording doesn't make much sense)
ah, I see

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