The Nineteenth Byte

I left a comment. :P

Is my comment fair?

its handsome!

5:19 PM

Has anybody done a challenge on generating ASCII art words (see: ASCII art text) before and I just can't find it?

Q: Words within words within words within words . . .

There's this

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In this pixelated font of uppercase letters of the alphabet, all the characters are 5 units wide and 5 tall. ███ ████ ███ ████ █████ █████ ████ █ █ █████ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ █ ██ ██ █████ ████ █ █ █ ████ █...

code-golf ascii-art kolmogorov-complexity

Not what I meant.

While experimenting with the Carrot interpreter, I caused an infinite loop and my computer was heating up and making sounds.

!

@VoteToClose Do you mean that particular font that you linked?

5:21 PM

No - I'm looking for a font that overlaps itself.

This kind: patorjk.com/software/taag/…

5:36 PM

Cool website!
Maybe I should always use one of those fonts such as: http://patorjk.com/software/taag/#p=display&h=1&v=0&f=Doh&t=%3AD

randomra

This ASCII art golf just popped in my mind but it seems too easy/boring:

1:
X

2:
\/
/\

3:
\ /
 X
/ \

4:
\  /
 \/
 /\
/  \

Yeah - no. XD

Alright. I'm off to make a challenge in the sandbox.

Sweet @VoteToClose

Just posted my new one

Hope it's well-received

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Background It's late Friday afternoon and you and your friends decide to hit the pub later that evening, but before going to the pub you figure you should have a few beverages. However, things escalate quickly; your friend Shaddock Pamplemousse won the lottery earlier this week and decided to br...

5:54 PM

> This may or may not reflect reality.

o-o

Weight / 2 is a horrible guideline :D

> 47 beers! Pah! I'm not drunk enough yet!

Sips or kegs? :~)!

pitchers

Oh, question - you switch between true/false and 1/0 - is this on purpose?

5:58 PM

Truthy/falsy

You might want to put sample output, then. ;)

Dunno if that's a good way of showing legal output?

4 large pitchers later...

Yeah, good call

Thanks

@Optimizer I preferred "larges".

5:59 PM

think twice! I didn't say what the contents were.

@NewSandboxedPosts This now has my up vote. :D

4 large pitchers of CHLORINE

@Optimizer 4 lager pitchers later

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ASCII Art Text kolmogorov-complexitycode-golfascii-art ______ ______ / / / --/_ _ --/_. _ /_ (_/ /</_ (_(_/|/_)/ <_ You are to write some ASCII Art Text! It's fairly straightforward. You need to convert an input string to the ASCII Art Text as seen on this site with this sp...

Thanks @VoteToClose :~)!

6:00 PM

@sweerpotato Dat nose, doe.

I should probably fix the bugs in Darkness

Noticed a few

Darkness? :o

My first programming language!

Totally horrible for golfing

Bad Cat Eye

Sweer

Sweeer babby burritos

Print function is behaving bad and the check for the malformed darkness fails because of obvious reasons

6:04 PM

> the check for the malformed darkness

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/30361/… - why is the 4 byte answer not the accepted one?

Is this based on some form of horror game/story?

@mods - is there a policy against incorrect accepted answers?

The hello world I wrote is 2629 bytes..

@VoteToClose nah, mostly referring to the way to code

github.com/sweerpotato/Darkness

@sweerpotato Ohdeargod.

6:06 PM

No README.md?!

oh yeah, need to fix that too

Ooh. That's... not pleasant to look at. xD

Yup, that animation looks totally realistic.

his butterfly wings are all ready to fly!

:I Sandbox Posts takes forever to post stuff.

6:10 PM

Yours were posted!

Oh.

Uh.

>.> I knew that.

:~)!

Is that Obi-Wan Kenobi?

It is indeed the Obi-Juan.

6:17 PM

oni-saan?

@MartinBüttner About the ? command, could this regex be used?
/\+\d+|-\d+|\d+/
Also: "Pushes 0 once EOF is reached." Does that mean that a 0 will get pushed if there are no integers that you can read?

Just realized I need an input instruction for my language

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Probably should be easier to reset the register too

Hello everone!

sup

D: ಠ_ಠ's back!

6:31 PM

Hallo

Hai people

Now everybody's here!

Hooray!

sprays confettl

@Sock Sup. :D

6:32 PM

zz work tomorrow too

Sock

@VoteToClose The ceiling, :P

I miss school

lol

> Words we never thought we'd say but now we are, because life.

rip

6:33 PM

in school

^_^

rip in school?

wat

No. I'm in school right now.

Can someone help me with this? Somebody left a downvote and idk why. :D

^ will do

6:35 PM

Probably an unnecessary downvote

Probably an accident

Oh, when you delete a question, will the up-votes get removed?

Yeas

^

All votes are removed upon deletion

6:36 PM

And downvotes?

Same

^^^

Yes.

All votes.

Oh, yeah! going an a sandbox voting spree :P

o_o two downvotes on @VoteToClose 's question

+2/-2

6:37 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ~~I'd love an explanation.~~ Nevermind.

Sock

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Zgarb

@VoteToClose I believe it's because the font looks very complex.

Yup, ~~almost~~ unreadable.

Maybe link to the entire alphabet in the question? Dunno

@VoteToClose How did you do the strikethrough?

6:38 PM

@sweerpotato I did.

@ΚριτικσιΛίθος Use ---...---

---

~~ninja'd~~

<s>ninja'd</s>

You broke it. o-o

6:39 PM

@VoteToClose Just a converter which only contains "The Task"

Zgarb

Also, it seems that there are extra rules on how adjacent letters are combined.

Maybe people are lazy and want the entire thing

shrugs

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6:39 PM

:D Yay! An empty strike through!

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@Stefnotch Congrats!

--- ---

brb need to expose my bathroom

6:40 PM

--- ---

~~All formatting stuff combined in one~~

@ΚριτικσιΛίθος code blocks?

<==Zero width space..

Oh.

> expose my bathroom

^?

6:41 PM

^^^ carrots

carrot.gif

@ΚριτικσιΛίθος How do you do all the carrots.stuff?

♂

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test ~test~ test <b>test</b> ~~test~~

I'm always so eager to post my challenges

6:43 PM

@Stefnotch What do you mean?

@VoteToClose he wants to shower in front of his neighbors

:D

* *

@ΚριτικσιΛίθος That formatting stuff....

6:44 PM

that's so cool :D

Magic

* * = cursive
--- --- = strikethrough

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code-golf typography A most excellent proof, too small to fi—! You sit at home, rubbing your hands in a most evil fashion. This time, I'll be able to set the community A-SPIN! I'll merely claim that I have proven this problem (which is of no doubt improvable) inside this book here… You open to ...

Should I post this ^?

:D
http://mattebloggen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Prog-300x228.png

JimmyJazzx

6:48 PM

I dont see on the rules where it says each line must be the same length?

---------+
hi. |
is This. |
Valid?. |

mınxomaτ

That's really useful: omive.com

@JimmyJazzx Please code block that?

nevermind

---------+
 hi. |
 is This. |
 Valid?. |

Oh, hey, not it's not. Let me add that.

@MartinBüttner @Calvin'sHobbies @PeterTaylor @ThomasKwa I have significantly updated the question. Please see the update.

Font is a lot better

I'm total crap at kolmogorov-complexity challenges though

I can't tell if my challenge is boring or not

I made a answer verification/help on answer chat, if anyone's interested.

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/31463/almost-answers-for-code-golf

6:54 PM

@VoteToClose I'd vote for a font with a lot more similarity between letters if you want golfing the font designs to have a chance over simply compressing them. Like how about Alpha but only require letters that only have 90 degree angles?

@Calvin'sHobbies Hmm. Alright. I'll edit it again.

I wonder if it's worth it to compress all possible inputs in my challenge

I remember my ocarina challenge was borderline kolmogorov

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ASCII Art Text kolmogorov-complexitycode-golfascii-art _____ _____ _____ _____ _____ _____ _____ /\ \ /\ \ /\ \ ...

Fixed. :D

holy crap

:D

Are there any more relevant tags?

7:01 PM

@VoteToClose I'd clarify that you mean uppercase and I'd put all the letters right in the post, don't link to them externally.

^

@Calvin'sHobbies Mmmmkay.

I do mean upper or lowercase input, though.

That shouldn't be too difficult - they're the same.

Also the huge text code block headers are unnecessary and confusing in my opinion.

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Rotate the anti-diagonals code-golf array-manipulation Background In most reasonable programming languages, it's very easy to rotate the rows or columns of a 2D array. But how about the anti-diagonals? Input A non-empty 2D array of single-digit numbers in any reasonable format. Output The ...

@Calvin'sHobbies Okay - ALL fixed, and just under the answer text limit.

I pity anyone who tries to look through that edit history.

7:08 PM

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code-golf typography A most excellent proof, too small to fi—! You sit at home, rubbing your hands in a most evil fashion. This time, I'll be able to set the community A-SPIN! I'll merely claim that I have proven this problem (which is of no doubt improvable) inside this book here… You open to ...

You should still link where you got the font, make it clear that you didn't make it up

^

And I'm confused about the builtins rule. You say no built-ins but there's a bonus if it is built-in?

^

^

7:10 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies I meant "if you include it as a side note". Changing that now.

@Calvin'sHobbies since you're the challenge guru - mind taking a quick looksee at my challenge? I can't tell if it's decent/fun enough for posting. I want to believe I made sort of a good outline though

:X

@VoteToClose Also, you maybe should change the <pre>...</pre> tags to <pre><code>...</code></pre> tags, which are the proper multiline tags. Plain pre looks fine on my computer but may be different elsewhere.

@sweerpotato Alright. Which challenge?

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Background It's late Friday afternoon and you and your friends decide to hit the pub later that evening, but before going to the pub you figure you should have a few beverages. However, things escalate quickly; your friend Shaddock Pamplemousse won the lottery earlier this week and decided to br...

@Calvin'sHobbies Once again - added and fixed. Thanks. :D

The sandbox is a wonderful thing

7:16 PM

Alright, about to post this. Any reasons not to?

Geobits

Yes, I commented on an "error" in your examples and you haven't corrected it:

Your logic is based on false assumptions. Not all birds can fly. I like how you still get to the correct conclusion, though. — Geobits 4 mins ago

:P

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I believe it's fine, but it's probably too hard for me :X

I'm not the one you should listen to :D

@Geobits XD Thankfully, it's pathos.

Also, your comment: do you think it's ambiguous if I write "samples of possible input and output"?

@sweerpotato Any opinion is still an opinion ^_^

@sweerpotato No, that's perfect IMO.

7:19 PM

@sweerpotato Needs a title. And I'd put the spoiler tag thing just in parens. You may want to link to our definition of truthy/falsy. I think it's a decent challenge overall though.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ that's what it says already.. :X

@sweerpotato "... in addition to."

XD

I sowee I didn't see that.

It's quite alright! :~)! Thank you for the input

@Calvin'sHobbies alright! No blantant ambiguities?

I'll add a link

@sweerpotato I'd try to reduce vertical space by combining the "The following are valid beverages:" and the "The following are unit(s) one beverage represent:"

and the other lists

Hm, good idea

It's sort of bloated, isn't it?

http://meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/2190/interpretation-of-truthy-falsey
^ the correct link?

or is there some sort of "stickied" post?

7:22 PM

I link to the highest voted answer to that meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/2194/26997

So its clear

Good call

Thanks for the input :~)!

Also "The following are unit(s) one beverage represent" could be phrased better. It took me a minute to realize it was a measure of alcoholic content, not volume or something

And who drinks olive oil :P

err

Italians?

:|

^^

A drunk person drinks olive oil, maybe?

Party trick

7:26 PM

olive oil is used in cooking at many places for many dishes.

Also used for machinery.

humans are machines too

@sweerpotato Why can't the input all come on one line with a space instead of a newline? Might be simpler for some languages

@Optimizer "your friend Shaddock Pamplemousse won the lottery earlier this week and decided to bring crates upon crates with different beverages" (emphasis mine)

Geobits

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Why did you link your (removed) sandbox post to Ask a Question?

I thought of that, but couldn't decide whether or not I should have a complete string as input or not. I'm C++-biased though and thought of while(std::cin >> str)

7:31 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies shokugeki time!

Didn't MrDuk just post a challenge that got closed?

@Calvin'sHobbies Yes.

Is my comment fair?

sure

Q: A most excellent proof, too small to fi—!

@Geobits o_o

One second.

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You sit at home, rubbing your hands in a most evil fashion. This time, I'll be able to set the community A-SPIN! I'll merely claim that I have proven this problem (which is of no doubt improvable) inside this book here… You open to the first relevant page. You scrawl those words… You are, of cou...

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Q: Hello (big)World

We're so concerned with slimming down our bits and bytes. I fear this has had unfortunate effect on our larger programs as they are beginning to feel segregated from the group. This is a reverse-code-golf challenge. Goal Write a program that outputs exactly Hello World! -- being as space-ineff...

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7:39 PM

where is the silly bot placeholder edit?

and once the placeholder is in, please delete these two messages too ! :P

and this one?

@Calvin'sHobbies Damnit, you got me again

@DigitalTrauma the tide is tugging you back Maria

I've surpassed @quartata in rep :D

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Q: Combined 100 year birthday

I was recently adding up the ages of myself and my wife and kids and realised that at some point in the not-too-distant future our ages will all add up to exactly 100 years. Challenge For an input consisting of a combined (total) age and a list of birth dates, output the date on which the combi...

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Q: Can you handle the pub?

Background It's late Friday afternoon and you and your friends decide to hit the pub later that evening, but before going to the pub you figure you should have a few beverages. However, things escalate quickly; your friend Shaddock Pamplemousse won the lottery earlier this week and decided to br...

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7:49 PM

Thanks for the input everybody, much love

@DigitalTrauma Missed the word "may." Derp.

@TimmyD no worries - it was still worth clarifying

@MrDuk You really ought to ask about questions before posting them - it prevents duplicates and helps with question building.

@VoteToClose MrDuk is not signed into chat. Will he still get this message?

@DigitalTrauma I'm fairly sure - I've done this before.

quartata

7:53 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I haven't done anything golfy in 2 days cut me some slack zz

@quartata nevah :D

@VoteToClose Your comment on his other challenge about not having an objective winning criterion was misleading. "Most votes" is an objective winning criterion.

@Calvin'sHobbies Are we tidally locked? Do I just need to wait for the next spring tide?

@Rainbolt It is indeed - however, the reasoning for voting on an answer is not objective. "As long as it is pretty and works" doesn't really have much objectivity.

But that's also wrong, because pop contests don't have to have objective voting criteria (unless that has changed since I last checked meta?)

7:57 PM

@VoteToClose I don't think so. If there are multiple users with the name MrDuk how will it know who to ping? Did you just get my ping from the minecraft chatroom?

I was under the impression that the voting criteria had to be cool enough to convince people that your challenge is cool. If you aren't cool, we close your pop contest.

^

@Calvin'sHobbies Idk then. It worked last time.

SuperJedi224

Hi guys

@Rainbolt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I only echo the words spoken to me when I attempted a pop-con.

7:59 PM

HI @SUPERJEDI224

@VoteToClose Words which were probably also misleading, because nobody can really explain why some pop contests are just better than others.

Hi there.

@Rainbolt Again, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ This is what I was told, so I only echo what I've seen the "rules" to be.

Link?

Not sure I can. Lemme check.

I want to see who told you that the voting criteria for pop contests had to be objective.

I will yell at them, and we can put this behind us.

8:03 PM

@VoteToClose I think it only pings the person if they have already been in the chat.

^ This makes sense.

@Rainbolt I can't find the post as of now, but I'll ping you with the link if possible.

@Rainbolt @VoteToClose Voting criteria cannot be objective, but a pop con that asks for a "creative solution" to a straightforward problem, without no indication whatsoever what should be considered creative, are too broad and will be closed as such.

Maybe your challenge was deleted after being put on hold. Zero results for: [popularity-contest] user:44713 is:question

@Dennis This sounds familiar. Did you tell me this about a month ago?

There's a decent possibility that's true.

8:06 PM

blame-dennis

8:18 PM

blame-doorknob

@TimmyD @VoteToClose That is correct. They also have to have been in the room recently. If the username doesn't auto-complete while typing, you cannot ping this user (unless you're a mod.)

One more reason to make every user here a mod.

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translate: Zu viele Köche verderben den Brei.

(from German) Too many cooks spoil the mush.

(Sort of.)

Who likes mush anyway.

Depends on the mush.

8:24 PM

@flawr We're ~~not~~ trustworthy!

I know at least one person who would @VoteToClose everything.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ What can I say?

Anonymous

@VoteToClose Eventually I'll add docs and examples. Seriously.

Anonymous

@Dennis Peter?

@Mego \o/ Many puns shall be made.

8:28 PM

@flawr I enjoy a good mush

You guys do not understand rhetoric questions.

@flawr What's a rhetoric question?

Something that only gets a rhetoric answer in the ninetheenth byte.

Hm my recent two challenges seemed to be quite popular, but none got more than one answer.

The term is rhetorical, no? I've never seen it plain "rhetoric question"

Anonymous

flawr is being cheeky

8:36 PM

?

What do you call a question about rhetorical questions?

I do not know?

Anonymous

metarical

Q: Calculate the p-adic norm of a rational number

Really, why does nobody participate?

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Calculate the p-adic norm of a rational number Write a function or a program, that takes 3 integers m,n,p (where p is a positive prime) as input, that outputs the p-adic norm (denoted by |m/n|_p) as a (completely reduced) fraction. Fermat is known to have only very small margins, but what is rat...

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Anonymous

cuz math is hard

8:41 PM

I think it is not too trivial and not too complex.

It could be solved in very few commands in most languages I think.

p-adic is a daunting word thingy

What should I call it then?

"Calculate the primey length of a not integer"?

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@flawr Do the integers have to be read in that order?

@Dennis no

Hello all!

Anonymous

8:49 PM

Hi Tan

Nobody is here?

I noticed that the most upvoted answers in the recent times are usually golf language answers, and I suspect if something isn't particularly well suited for those languages people will not participate at all. So I have the impression this isn't really about golfing in regular languages anymore but about showing off the golfing languages.

@flawr I certainly agree...

Do those stars suggest I should rename the question???

13 mins ago, by flawr

"Calculate the primey length of a not integer"?

Please don't.

:P

Also, your question is very well suited for some golfing languages.

8:58 PM

Ignores irrationals

@MartinBüttner have you checked the reference Python implementation? Do you know why it is wrong?