The Nineteenth Byte

ConfusedMr_C

00:00

/* I did a typo */
#define explode exploade

Alex A.

@trichoplax R U A MOD ON COMPOOTR GRAFIX NAO?

VoteToClose

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I've totally broken my input method.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose for what? :/

VoteToClose

Vitsy. Input simply doesn't work anymore. :c

trichoplax

@AlexA. Last time you asked: No. This time you ask: Yes :)

Alex A.

00:01

@ConfusedMr_C Do get fixed width font in multiline messages, put a single line break at the beginning and either indent each line with four spaces or press the "fixed font" button.

ConfusedMr_C

test

oh ok

thanks :D

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose ;-; that's bad

what language is it written in?

Alex A.

Announcement: Congratulations to our good friends @trichoplax and @MartinBüttner for becoming moderators on Computer Graphics!

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

claps

ConfusedMr_C

claps

trichoplax

00:02

@AlexA. Doorknob already beat you to it :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

NINJA'D

Alex A.

They made a great choice and I know you're going to be perfect.

Announcement: Doorknob is a ninja.

trichoplax

Yes seriously ninja'd...

yesterday, by Doorknob

@trichoplax and @MartinBüttner have been appointed as protem mods on Computer Graphics, congrats!

Alex A.

Martin too???

trichoplax

So Martin is now two mods...

Alex A.

00:04

Doorknob is two as well

Here and Puzzling

trichoplax

Wow. Should we feel lazy for just having one site each?

Alex A.

No

El'endia Starman

@trichoplax I've been a one-site mod for 4.5 years now.

Alex A.

I feel lazy for other reasons unrelated to moderation

trichoplax

@AlexA. Thank you very much :)

Alex A.

00:06

You'd better not abandon us though!

El'endia Starman

It's only recently that I would have actually been able to be a two-site mod because now we have several regulars on C.SE that are doing most of the mod work, which is awesome.

Alex A.

PPCG FOR LIFE

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I converted from Puzzling to PPCG. I never regret the change.

trichoplax

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It's half the bytes...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Precisely!

Alex A.

00:07

Only if you use our acronym

It's way more otherwise

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

Yes? Can I help you?

El'endia Starman

PPCG, so golfy that we golfed our own name!

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Probably not.

Alex A.

haha

DLosc

00:09

PCG would be golfier.

VoteToClose

WTF am I doing wrong? :I

El'endia Starman

Doesn't have the full name though.

DLosc

2PCG has a smaller score if you add the ASCII values.

El'endia Starman

@VoteToClose ^

Alex A.

Maybe someday we'll change our name but currently the meta consensus is not to do so.

@El'endiaStarman Is this from something I should recognize?

El'endia Starman

00:11

@AlexA. It's from a fairly popular TV show. Can't think of the name right now.

trichoplax

@AlexA. Who me? I have all this to do yet... :)

ConfusedMr_C

We could do CPG: Code Puzzles + Golf :D

El'endia Starman

(I just Googled everything gif and that was a good pick.)

DLosc

@El'endiaStarman "Community," maybe?

El'endia Starman

@DLosc Yes, that's it.

DLosc

00:12

Ha! (This after having seen about four episodes several months ago.)

El'endia Starman

I've seen many gifs of scenes, but I've never watched it.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

DLosc

My roommate has it. It's funny sometimes.

Question: how do you quote a chat message?

Doorknob

28 secs ago, by DLosc

Question: how do you quote a chat message?

El'endia Starman

@DLosc Copy the permalink, paste it by itself, and hit enter.

Alex A.

00:15

31 secs ago, by DLosc

Question: how do you quote a chat message?

Doorknob

it's just a onebox

@AlexA. ninja'd

Alex A.

12 mins ago, by Alex A.

Announcement: Doorknob is a ninja.

DLosc

@El'endiaStarman Ahh, didn't think of that. Thanks

Calvin's Hobbies

Are there twoboxes?

Alex A.

Infiniboxes

El'endia Starman

00:15

@Calvin'sHobbies Nope.

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Yep.

DLosc

55 secs ago, by Alex A.

31 secs ago, by DLosc

Question: how do you quote a chat message?

Alex A.

1 min ago, by Alex A.

23 secs ago, by Alex A.

9 secs ago, by DLosc

55 secs ago, by Alex A.

31 secs ago, by DLosc

Question: how do you quote a chat message?

Doorknob

@AlexA. you got 4 stars and I didn't get any i cri evrytim

:P

El'endia Starman

^^^ Unless those count.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:16

mini challenge generate an n-box

Calvin's Hobbies

Seems like every chat message comes in one box ._.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

>
>
> ___floor(10.3)___

well then.

DLosc

@AlexA. Is that recursive quoting?

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies no, multiple messages by the same user in a row get stuck in the same "box"

Doorknob

unless you do that

Calvin's Hobbies

00:17

Dashes?

Really?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

k

Doorknob

yes, it's a fancy chat feature

Alex A.

@DLosc Si

Calvin's Hobbies

hmm

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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Doorknob

00:17

@AlexA. sí*

Calvin's Hobbies

Test

Alex A.

ಠ_ಠ

Calvin's Hobbies

Stop interrupting me!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

test

SORRY

VoteToClose

YUS.

Doorknob

00:18

lol

VoteToClose

FIXED IT.

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies status-declined

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11 secs ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

test

VoteToClose

My life is complete.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6 secs ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11 secs ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

test

Doorknob

00:18

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you know, you can do that in a self-contained way

El'endia Starman

@VoteToClose FIXED WHAT?

VoteToClose

You can do that with one message.

Doorknob

post a chat message and repeatedly edit it into a link to itself

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o____________o how?

VoteToClose

@El'endiaStarman I broke Vitsy's input.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:18

ohh

-

27 secs ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

15 secs ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6 secs ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

self-contained

VoteToClose

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Me and Mego did some experimentation with that at some point.

El'endia Starman

9 secs ago, by El'endia Starman

8 secs ago, by El'endia Starman

I think only mods (and room owners?) can do this though:

8 secs ago, by El'endia Starman

I think only mods (and room owners?) can do this though:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose cool!

Calvin's Hobbies

#What else works in chat? $Mathjax?$

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies you need a JS plugin for that, which exists

El'endia Starman

00:20

^

Doorknob

HEY EVERYONE

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...

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3

^ use that

VoteToClose

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

-

DLosc

@Doorknob Sorry for starting this trend. ~.~

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

My rep matches a terrible year

New Sandboxed Posts

00:22

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Counting the Pattern Unlocks The Premise Many modern smartphones have options that allow you to choose how you would like to unlock your phone. For example, my phone allows PIN input: a 4 digit number (low security) Pattern Unlock: connect the dots in a pattern (medium security) Password ent...

DLosc

So, back on-topic: is there anyone around here who could lend some Lisp expertise?

Calvin's Hobbies

Get a speaking coach.

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Calvin'sHobbies I lol'd legit on that one

DLosc

Lisp (programming language)

Lisp (historically, LISP) is a family of computer programming languages with a long history and a distinctive, fully parenthesized Polish prefix notation. Originally specified in 1958, Lisp is the second-oldest high-level programming language in widespread use today; only Fortran is older (by one year). Like Fortran, Lisp has changed a great deal since its early days, and a number of dialects have existed over its history. Today, the most widely known general-purpose Lisp dialects are Common Lisp and Scheme. Lisp was originally created as a practical mathematical notation for computer programs...

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New Main Posts

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Q: ASCII Art Sierpinski Triangle

Introduction Your challenge is to create a program that prints an ASCII art Sierpinski triangle given an input on the size. Challenge The program will need to take an input of a number and output an ASCII art Sierpinski triangle that is 2input "pixels" wide. The triangle must be exactly like t...

VoteToClose

00:25

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ For your most recent challenge, does the output have to be exactly that?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose exactly what?

VoteToClose

[-2,-1,0,1,2] <--- This kind of thing.

Can it be just separated by spaces, or...?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Yes

Anything generally like an array

DLosc

I'm trying to decide whether allowing eval in my tinylisp challenge would make it too easy for other dialects of Lisp. But (ironically) I myself don't know Lisp dialects well enough to say.

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

(code-golf | popularity-contest ?) Brainf*** animation! (help with title.) Objective Given a Brainf*** program, create an animated rendering of the process. This animation must include: What character the code is pointing to What the tape looks like (display any amount of cells you wish) Wher...

VoteToClose

00:33

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A: N numbers closest to zero staying balanced

Vitsy, 27 Bytes I'm gonna golf this down tomorrow, but I really ought to go to bed now. DV2M)[0N;]V1+2/V-V\[DN25^O1+] DV Duplicate the input and save it as a final global var. 2M)[ON;] If the input is even (input%2=0) Print out 0 and quit. ...

Night all. :D

DLosc

'Night!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Goodnight!

@NewSandboxedPosts suggestions?

trichoplax

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ If you want it to be popularity-contest you will have your work cut out to make it acceptable for main - pop cons are very hard to get right. If you want it to be code-golf you'll need to specify it more strictly (rather than "any amount of cells you wish").

That isn't meant to put you off making a pop con - just know in advance it's tough

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Both sound equally tough ._.

What would need to change for popcon?

trichoplax

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ If I knew that I'd write a pop con :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:47

Oh, haha! right.

Seadrus

it sounds like you're about to rob a bank @trichoplax @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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mınxomaτ

So a bunch of VB6 programmers rioted and MS announced native support for VB6 (and its runtimes) til the End-Of-Support of Windows 10. But MS also told everyone they should "just use VB8 to upgrade, it's free!". But to install VB8 you need to get a license key - and of course MS deleted the registration website for VB8 >:( ...

trichoplax

Creating an animation leans towards being an art contest rather than a programming contest, but it's always a subjective decision so I can't predict how people will vote.

It seems like the voting on the pop con will be about the choice of animation style, rather than about how skillful the programming is

mınxomaτ

Voting is a totally acceptable winning criterion, but the challenge has to be about the implementation, not the art itself.

trichoplax

If you specify it strictly enough to counter that, then it might be better as a golf

I think pop con works well for things that can't work as anything else

Alex A.

00:51

I disagree because that includes shit challenges

Some challenges don't work as anything

mınxomaτ

@AlexA. subtle (again :P)

New Main Posts

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Q: It's bulking season

The barbells at my gym look like this: =========[]-----------------------[]========= They can hold plates of five different sizes, 2.5 pounds, five pounds, ten pounds, 25 pounds, and 45 pounds: . . ! | . ! | | | | | | | | ' ! | | | '...

code-golf ascii-art

Alex A.

WHEN AM I EVER NOT SUBTLE?!?!

trichoplax

@AlexA. OK - I should word that better. I think those pop cons that work well don't work as anything else. There is also a terrifyingly long list of things that don't work well as anything else and would make awful pop cons

Alex A.

Agreed now :)

@NewMainPosts This is a cute challenge.

trichoplax

00:53

:)

Calvin's Hobbies

Is there a nice way to enumerate the grids that can be made by these pipes (with no discontinuities)?

quartata

What did I miss

trichoplax

@Calvin'sHobbies How many of each one and in what size space?

Calvin's Hobbies

Alex A.

@quartata You always ask that. Are you unfamiliar with the ability to scroll up? :P

mınxomaτ

00:54

I was looking at the small picture and thought "wow, unicode is getting really weird" ^^

quartata

@AlexA. No, I'm just way too lazy to scroll up.

Instead I crowdsource the scrolling up.

Alex A.

haha

trichoplax

@quartata Do you not read the entire chat transcript each time you return? Just scroll to the top and press "load to my last message"... ;)

Alex A.

Many years ago I used Safari for Windows until it stopped recognizing the act of scrolling up. I could only scroll down.

quartata

@trichoplax Ugh difficult

El'endia Starman

00:55

@Calvin'sHobbies I cannot think of any enumeration of those that I've seen.

quartata

Why can't I crowdsource it instead?

Calvin's Hobbies

@trichoplax In some arbitrary mxn grid. Any amounts of each, they all must connect at all ends though.

trichoplax

@quartata But you might miss something!

quartata

Get the masses to do it for me. It's like a merge sort but you don't have to do the conquering part afterwards.

Divide-and-conquer is better when those who divide for you do the conquering also

mınxomaτ

@AlexA. Windows update kept installing a wrong driver for my touchpad that flipped my scrolling direction. I kept reversing it until I just gave up. Now I'm used to this and stall for a few seconds everytime I try to use some else's laptop.

Calvin's Hobbies

00:56

@quartata But none of us will often know when you were here last.

El'endia Starman

@Calvin'sHobbies I SENSE a challenge brewing...

trichoplax

@Calvin'sHobbies Are you allowed empty squares provided all their neighbours have no loose ends?

Calvin's Hobbies

@trichoplax Yes

quartata

@Calvin'sHobbies Eh.

You pathetic humans have "fuzzy logic." You'll just do it back to an hour or something

El'endia Starman

@Calvin'sHobbies There will probably be some relation to polyominoes.

trichoplax

00:57

@Calvin'sHobbies Does brute force count as "nice"?

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ Is this not the point at which you uninstall Windows and opt for a better OS? :P

Calvin's Hobbies

@quartata Right. You're not human, you're Italian.

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Rude. haha

mınxomaτ

@AlexA. I have to use windows for some things. I use arch on everything else.

quartata

@Calvin'sHobbies I'm an Italian glider, the best kind there is

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:59

I come back to 42 unread messages

Alex A.

@mınxomaτ Windows 7 is the last usable Windows IMO.

anOKsquirrel

/topic

:p

Alex A.

> General discussion for codegolf.stackexchange.com | abandon all work, ye who enter here —aditsu

Calvin's Hobbies

@trichoplax Not really, but it may be unavoidable.

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