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2:19 PM
Oh my god. XD
I lose so hard.
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A: Avoid repeating letters between five simple programs

VoteToCloseosascript, 775 Bytes I knew this was going to be a lot when I started. o-o Task 1: 15 Bytes "Hello, World!" I knew that it was going to be bad from this point. Task 2: 64 + 8*4 = 96 Bytes on run a set o to 1 repeat a set o to a*o set a to a-1 end o end Oh gawd. Task 3: 170 + 8*13 = 274 By...

 
2:52 PM
Was Vista 16bit enabled? I don't remember, but I need an OS that gets security updates and can run 16bit programs...
 
Hallo
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

StefnotchWeb-based Compiler for Language XY Story: A company hired you, a humanity hating programmer. The company has a policy that allows you to program in any language you want. You decide to take advantage of this! The task: A programming language is useless if you can't use it. So, in order to use...

 
@mınxomaτ were any windoge OSes after 2000 16-bit?
 
> windoge
 
16-bit programs could be run on XP.
 
3:03 PM
16bit enabled. I.e. able to run native 16bit executables.
 
Apparently, you can run them but with some interrupts blocked (e.g. for fullscreen mode).
 
@TheDoctor Microadvertising.
 
:P
 
-1
Q: Generate 0 or 1

ghosts_in_the_codeIs this Q too easy to ask, or has it just never been thought of? Generate a random number, either 0 or 1 using a program You may use a pre-defined function. The code must be executable. (It can't be just a function that requires more code to execute.) I'm looking for both the shortest co...

 
3:18 PM
And let's play the game: How long will it take Dennis to get "Good answer" from a 2 byte golf?
Okay nvm, question's out of whack now
 
I'd say the bet is still on
 
He has a downvote. :c
 
Hmm, so I cannot get a removed post to get quoated
or can I?
4 hours ago, by Optimizer
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@VoteToClose Haha. Yeah, apparently using Pyth is cheating, but using CJam isn't. :P
 
:o Oh, no! I can't believe you would use Pyth like 400 other users would in this situation, @Dennis!
 
3:32 PM
I wouldn't use Pyth :D
 
With a little luck, the downvote gets reversed tomorrow, so I'll actually lose rep from the downvote.
 
O.o How does that make sense?
 
If it roflcopter it makes sense
 
15 hours ago, by Dennis
I got downvoted on Oct 6 and Oct 27. I hit the rep cap later those days, so I didn't lose any rep from the downvotes.
Both downvotes got reversed on Oct 28, but I hit the rep cap that day as well, so I didn't gain any rep from the undownvotes.
Today, my rep got recalculated. The system decided none of this was fair and made the original downvotes count as -2 each.
 
Wow. Jerk move, de-downvote system.
 
3:36 PM
@Dennis system 1, Dennis -2
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@MartinBüttner 14 bytes, stupid version: E,eee~(e9s+es=
 
heh, neat
 
@BetaDecay how is it flying without moving its wings?
 
@Sp3000 Does Gol><> have a random function?
 
Yes, although for that question random direction is shorter
Woop lemme clarify: Sx is random float in [0, 1), x is random direction. They're the only sources of randomness atm. (I'll think about random int from 0 to n-1 later)
@MartinBüttner If only Eee worked :P
 
3:40 PM
Gol Fish?
1 D is missing.
Gol D. Fish
 
That would make it a 3D language.
 
^ Hahahaha
 
oh wait, this is a great time for Labyrinth to shine :D
 
Is there a 3 byte way to get [9 0] in CJam?
 
3:43 PM
9U]
 
X is 1, not 0.
 
Should've probably specified not assuming you're at the start
 
@Optimizer are you alright? ;)
 
damnit I lost my touch
 
CJam could really use a pair operator.
 
3:46 PM
I have an idea for a popcon-style answer to the 0/1 question, but I'm not sure the question deserves it
 
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A: Generate 0 or 1

VoteToCloseAppleScript/osascript, 17 Bytes some item of{1,0} This is kinda the cheaty way to do it. some item will grab a random item of a list. If I wanted a random item of a series, I would use: random number from 0 to 100 For a random integer in the set [0, 100].

Yay. :D
 
On the one hand, I'm slightly annoyed because the 0/1 question could make a good catalogue. But on the other hand, catalogues not made by Mennis Büttner are weird.
 
> Mennis Büttner
 
Soon to be Mennis A. Büttner, once we get the sortalogue
 
3:55 PM
> sortalogue
 
I'm looking forward to the sortalog. I've been working on a BF submission.
Not sure how good it is. I've never golfed in BF before.
 
what is sortalog?
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Alex A.An Assortment of Sorting Sorting an array of integers in ascending order is one of the most fundamental tasks in programming. Indeed, there are many algorithms which exist to accomplish this. While it may not be the most interesting challenge, particularly for "usual" languages, it can be nontri...

 
@Sp3000 I posted a (probably) optimally golfed answer which also works as a popcon-style answer I think ;)
 
3:59 PM
Okay, if you're posting then I'm posting :P
 
@Sp3000 Meh, that's 7 bytes shorter than what I had and basically the same idea.
Wait, there are always 4 bytes. Not sure if that makes a difference.
Nope. That answer is just better. :/ (Wait, the inputs do not contain duplicates. That's probably a game changer.)
 
@VoteToClose D:
 
What?
 
That 44 second difference
 
;) I'll get rid of mine, if you'd like.
You've got a better explanation.
 
4:06 PM
Nope, I've got a solution to this
 
Whaddat?
 
rm -rf *
 
XD
I'll just delete mine. Don't worry about it. :)
 
5 bytes :P
I feel like there's surely got to be a better way for Vitsy
 
l works, actually. >.>
:P @Sp3000
 
4:17 PM
I feel like you should be able to do something shorter, like 3R\l or something like that (I dunno how Vitsy actually works, just guessing)
 
Hm. Maybe.
 
Your header still says 7 btw
 
Oh, thanks. Whoops. :D
 
@MartinBüttner Trying for 6 but this is tricky :/
 
@Sp3000 I can get all sorts of random outputs in 6, but not 0/1 ^^
(the closest I had was 0/01)
 
4:30 PM
Yeah, I can only get 0/01
 
heh
did you also stumble across 0/112222....?
(I think that was for 7 though)
 
Nope
I also have 1/empty
... does Lab grid wrap for ><^v?
@MartinBüttner D: why you make ^>v< mod wrap, I'd have a 6 if you didn't :P
 
uhhh, do you mean wrapping for the parameters?
i.e. row/column index?
 
Yeah
 
what would it be if I didn't?
 
4:42 PM
Don't worry, it's a sensible thing to do :P
It's just that:
#
>!@)
 
oh, interesting
wait but doesn't that work?
stack should have 2, the second time you hit > so it should still wrap the same row?
 
I don't know why, but I haven't gotten it to output 1 yet, and debug suggests the stack is empty by the time it reaches !
 
that's odd
 
Both the 1 and 2 seem to have been used on > for some reason o_O
 
5:00 PM
uhhh... that sounds like a bug :D
 
stares at Martin
 
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A: Generate 0 or 1

VoteToCloseVitsy I'm changing my answer to fit the popcon description. 2R(10r68*+DD:::?? WHY WOULD YOU WRITE LIKE THIS? 2R Random float in [0,2). (10 If it's truncated is value is 1, ...

>:D
NOPs. My favorite.
 
This sure is something.
 
5:25 PM
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A: Generate 0 or 1

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'BʀɪᴇɴSimplex v.0.7, 2 bytes IX I ~~ increment byte X ~~ set byte to a random number from 0 to the current byte value The byte is valued 0 by default; incrementing it by 1 then applying the random function makes it a random value from 0 to 1 inclusive.

Random builtin, my favorite.
 
-.- I used random floats. Whyyyy?
 
"random floats"? That sounds hideous. Explain?
 
I meant mine to be mathematically based, so higher precision (in Java, heheh... Oh.) was better.
There's a reason why I have constants for e and pi, and am attempting to add gamma.
 
Ohhh.
I have constants for e, pi, and phi in Simplex.
 
I know. :P I read up on the Simplex page just now.
 
5:30 PM
XD Thanks for giving it a read! Anywhere Vitsy is documented, so I can read up on it? :3
 
I was actually trying to break out with a Simplex answer before you did. XD I couldn't get the interpreter to run, though, so, sad.
 
Oh, yeah, I'm writing a new interpreter. The current one hardly works
 
If you need clarification on anything, lemme know.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yay!
 
5:33 PM
"Repeat the next operation as many times as the truncated top item of the stack" what does that mean??
(under repeatnextchar)
 
Basically, I turn the top item into an int value, pop it, and do the next instruction that many times.
 
Oh, okay.
I like the language!
It's quite powerful, and is a lot like Simplex (ish)
 
Thank you! It needs tweaking though.
 
How do you like of my new language: Carrot
 
Yeah - you're language is more developed.
YUS.
SOMEBODY MADE CARROT A LANGUAGE.
+50.
 
5:36 PM
@ΚριτικσιΛίθος ಠ_ಠ
You used Times New Roman = I will never use the language
 
carrot.jpg^ < - My first program. :D
 
What do you mean I used Times New Roman?
 
This is TNR.
It's a font type. :P Typically used in official texts.
 
5:39 PM
ahhh so much better on my eyes
 
#comicsans
 
What do you think of it, my language?
 
Very carrot.
 
It's... interesting. I'm not sure what the commands do, but I found out how to make the output x2 as long as the input: 35^++++
 
You can look at the source code
 
5:41 PM
Oh, right.
 
Try this code: carrot^*2 It will output carrot thrice
 
Thrice. :D
 
ಠ_ಠ I thought the only commands were +, -, *
^^
 
carrot.png
 
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Q: Write a application that has random colors each 1 pixel in size

Star OSWrite a application/code that inputs random colors of random hex colors each 1 pixel in size over a 64x64 window Rules -10 if your code isn't something obvious It must be black and white, or else the amount of bytes must be doubled! You can't make it larger than the size of a boot sector of a ...

 
5:44 PM
<--- I did this.
:D
 
XD That is great
 
what?
 
So, how do you think my language is?
 
It's interesting, for sure.
 
5:46 PM
It only appears to be useless
maybe a robber can make it usable :P
 
@ΚριτικσιΛίθος You need if statements.
 
I have started making it today...
 
carrot.jpg
 
carrot.vitsy
 
5:47 PM
Wait. Why am I typing that out? I have a command for this.
 
filename.carrot
 
.carrots.swap
 
Lol. CMD+ALT+CTRL+C writes out the URL for carrot on my computer. :D
 
carrot.reduce(function carrot(carrot){return carrot[carrot]+carrot})
 
5:48 PM
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A: "Hello, World!"

ProgramFOXCarrot, 14 bytes Carrot is a language of Κριτικσι Λίθος. The syntax is stack^commands, where the stack is a string, and the interpreter outputs everything that's on the stack at the end of the program. Putting nothing after the carrot will just make it output the stack. Hello, World!^

carrot.answer :P
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Btw, the semi-official file extension is .vt
 
@VoteToClose Oh, lol. I knew that.
 
Oh! Okay. :P
 
@ProgramFOX lol.
 
How do you output ^ in Carrot?
 
5:53 PM
@ProgramFOX carrot.upvotes
@Pietu1998 Carrot^
 
@VoteToClose I was kidding, sorry if that wasn't obvious
AFAIK this is the shortest in Chaine
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A: "Hello, World!"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'BʀɪᴇɴChaîne, 13 bytes Hello, World! Everything is an implicit string, and everything is implicit output.

 
Foo.
 
6:16 PM
> spookyme 42
This should be the correct output. o-o
 
I've noticed something - during my development of my language, I have completely lost interest in learning any other golfing languages.
ಠ_ಠ Yet CJam always wins...
 
Pyth*
 
s/CJam/Pyth/g
 
UP
 
6:20 PM
 
@VoteToClose so true
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

VɪʜᴀɴAcross the alphabet code-golf In this challenge, you have trouble remembering the letters of the alphabet. To circumvent this, you go up and down the alphabet, till to get to the letter. Because you want your code to be portable, you'll be writing it with letter blocks. You have a limited amo...

 
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Q: Formatted output in ruby

hotrodHow can i get formatted output in ruby using p function. I need to print a float with exactly two decimal places. I am doing it in a code-golf question so i want to use p function instead of puts and printf. Currently i am writing printf"%.2f",a.abs/2 Any other suggestion to reduce characters a...

 
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A: "i" have "i" chance of occuring

VoteToCloseVitsy, 21 Bytes I play amongst giants. a2^RVa\0d\[1+D\D]XVpN a2^ Push 100 to the stack. R Random number in the set [0,100) V Capture the top item as a permanent global variable. a\0 Push 10 0s to the stack. ...

Ooh, that felt good. :D
 
6:41 PM
@VoteToClose You know you can just delete the answer while you're fixing it instead of shouting at people. ;)
 
>.>
 
<.<
<.>
 
Well. My language can't make pseudorandoms out of thin air. :c
@MartinBüttner I should leave my answer, right? It doesn't exactly follow spec (since my language can't do what I said in the message before this), but it does have the output?
 
ummm... I think if your answer doesn't satisfy the spec it should be deleted.
 
6:45 PM
^
 
not every language can solve every challenge, but as long as challenges aren't deliberately closing doors for individual languages, that's completely fine
 
Meh. Okie den.
 
carrot
 
carrot.A.
 
6:48 PM
Opticarrot
Carrotomizer
 
Alex.carrot
Calvin'sCarrot
 
carrot.guys
 
girls.
everyone.
Let us join hands and worship the glory of the carrot.
 
/carrot\
 
6:50 PM
I wonder if I can suspend another mod...
 
do it do it do it
Wait
No, you mean me
don't do it don't do it don't do it
 
@Dennis @AlexA. Users will be able to find the validity status of their language easier if there's a big post titled "MyLanguage is invalid" in meta. Easier to find than peters rules.
 
aren't there promotions for mods? Senior Mod
 
@Calvin'sHobbies While I agree with that in some respects, I also think people might start suggesting golfing languages because they "take the fun out of code golf."
@Optimizer Promotions for mods? That's called getting hired by Stack Exchange. :P
 
Well those will surely be highly downvoted. But we could make a stipulation that showing a counterexample to the invalidity nullifies the invalidity claim.
And the +3 threshold can definitely change to whatever.
 
6:54 PM
What might be better is to have a running list of languages which are known not to meet our criteria for qualifying as a language.
 
All ze mods are talking zeir things
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ?
 
all this just to officially label HTML/CSS as not a programming language? -.-
 
@AlexA. Wait I misread. This is what my question is asking for, no?
 
o_O oh wait you pinged alex
 
6:55 PM
Unless you mean in one post
 
@Optimizer I don't think that's the point of it, but that should definitely be included.
 
HTML+CSS is semi-turing complete :P
 
Can you add two numbers or check whether a number is prime using only HTML and CSS? I don't think so.
 
thus semi- turing complete
 
@Calvin'sHobbies I suppose it is. But I think it would be better to phrase it more explicitly as a list of languages which don't meet our criteria rather than ones we should just outright ban for whatever reason.
 
6:59 PM
That is what I was going for: "Each answer here should cover one purported programming language and explain why it doesn't satisfy our criteria."
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Our requirements for languages don't entirely rule out Turing incomplete languages; they just need to be able to add two numbers and check for primality.
 

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