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Generate a Custom Maze! Generate a maze that has two inputs for dimensions (X and Y sizes). The maze must include: = (Double space) = Open Spot x (Any amount) WE = Weapon x 1 \/ = Bear x 1 [] = Wall x (Random amount) {} = Exit x 1 (Inside the maze) () = Start x 1 (Inside the maze) A solid ...

Alien G

Thanks bot, thanks a lot.

Alex A.

@NewSandboxedPosts is part of our fleet of evil robots.

Alien G

@AlexA. Honestly, the only good bots are creepers in MC (Their path finding is too op)

Alex A.

Are you part of the PPCG Minecraft Server?

Creepers are mean. :/

Alien G

They will literally parkour and noclip to get you.

@AlexA. I currently don't have the internet required to do much.

Though I might tomorrow.

Alex A.

00:06

How are you here without internet? o.O

GamrCorps

@AlexA. I'm going to join as soon as my load of schoolwork lightens.

Alex A.

Nice.

Alien G

@AlexA. Key words are "internet required"

Alex A.

Gotcha

Alien G

I'm on wireless at a distance of like 300ft.

Alex A.

00:10

Mooching internet off a neighbor? :P

I did that once a long time ago because my internet was out.

Alien G

@AlexA. No, nothing like that O_O

Alex A.

haha

GamrCorps

@AlienG McWifi?

Alex A.

?

Alien G

@GamrCorps Yes (Not really but close).

GamrCorps

00:11

McDonalds Wifi

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Q: Standard New User Welcome Messages

What is the best message to notify a new user with an issue with their post (via a comment) while posting a(n)... Challenge (unclear specs/questionable) Challenge (duplicate) Challenge (off-topic) Answer to a challenge.

Alex A.

Oh, okay.

GamrCorps

Just got my first silver badge! Too bad it won't show up yet....

Alien G

I can't believe mcdonalds actually thinks you''ll have time to use their drive-through wifi...

Plus WireShark and stuffs.

GamrCorps

Yay!

mınxomaτ

00:22

?

GamrCorps

first silver badge

mınxomaτ

Oh.

Alex A.

Congrats. :)

Alien G

Holy crap.

rossscrivener.co.uk/projects/langtons-ants

Alex A.

Holy crap indeed.

El'endia Starman

00:26

Coool!

Alien G

It's quite cool how if you place two next to each other they constantly destroy and rebuild their "structures"

Justin

Try out the growing square. It becomes a shrinking square

It's an oscillator (on this map)!

Alex A.

Justinator

Justin

Yo

Challenge: How many growing square oscillators can you fit on the screen with out them interfering with themselves

Thomas Kwa

APL question: Is it possible to turn {2(-⍨/⍣⍺)⍵} into a train?

Alex A.

00:37

I don't think so, but @Dennis is the resident train expert.

A model train enthusiast, you might say.

Thomas Kwa

Also, why does that even work? It seems to me that the 2 can't bind to the left of the -⍨/ because there are parentheses and a ⍣ in the way.

Alex A.

APL works in strange and mysterious ways.

AKA I have no idea

Thomas Kwa

01:05

I have a 15-byte solution to this challenge in TI-BASIC, but the challenge specified UTF-8 must be used. What should I do?

Alien G

That moment when the ants aren't going fast enough and you use cheat engine to speed-hack google chrome ;_;

GamrCorps

@ThomasKwa I would mention it in the comments and/or in the header do #TI-Basic, 15 bytes (N UTF-8 bytes)

Alex A.

There's a Julia package for connecting to the Yelp API. Why...?

TheDoctor

>.<

@AlexA. better write a GolfScript one

or BF

Alex A.

Brainfuck is my preferred means of browsing Yelp.

TheDoctor

01:18

also we need a Malbolge Yahoo API

Alex A.

About as many people use Malbolge as use Yahoo.

Thomas Kwa

Furthermore, what do UTF-8 bytes even mean?

SuperJedi224

Hi guys

Thomas Kwa

My code in TI's encoding starts with DC 4E 3F B6 4E. Can I convert that to UTF-8 and claim that as my source size?

/me waves to @SuperJedi224

SuperJedi224

TI-Basic is usually scored as actual program size minus size of empty program with same name

Which should be 10 for a single-letter program name

Thomas Kwa

01:28

The challenge specified UTF-8

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Q: Calculating distances mod N

You have been collecting data from a Advanced Collecting Device Controller™ for a long time. You check the logs, and to your horror you discover that something has gone terribly wrong: the data only contains the last bits of the numbers! Luckily, you know the starting value and that the value n...

code-golf math

Which is very annoying, because I'd be winning if the scoring were fair

SuperJedi224

UTF-8 is standard scoring for most textual languages

quartata

Jeez I've ever gotten so many upvotes on an answer

Maybe I should try this lower effort = more upvotes thing more often

Actually I think the secret is post your answer first it seems

SuperJedi224

So I think you can assume it just means bytes

Alex A.

No you can't

APL scored with the APL codepage is 1 character = 1 byte

TheDoctor

jeez why do you people always talk about programming. it's not like this is a coding chatroom or anything...

Alex A.

01:30

APL in UTF-8 is about 3 times as many bytes

Thomas Kwa

There's no standard way to express TI-BASIC in UTF-8.

TheDoctor

says hello to @Chinatsu-creepy-chan

Chinatsu-creepy-chan

hehe, hello guys

Sp3000

@TheDoctor Programming? What's that? I thought this chatroom was about llamas and pancakes

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TheDoctor

@Sp3000 no, llamas and waffles

Alex A.

01:31

@Sp3000 Programming is the science of stuffing pancakes into llamas.

SuperJedi224

Currently testing the item trasnportation system I decided at the last minute to add to my minecart track

Chinatsu-creepy-chan

It may be surprising but I'm not here to ask any questions. Want to known more weirdos. Looks like I hit the spot xP

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Alex A.

The Nineteenth Byte is weirdo central. Welcome!

TheDoctor

@Chinatsu-creepy-chan I never ask questions. I just post my code and hope other people golf it for me

Sp3000

@Chinatsu-creepy-chan Hey Chinatsu-chan, did you come from the Maid Cafe? Kyouko's there :P

TheDoctor

01:33

ayy @Vɪʜᴀɴ

Vɪʜᴀɴ

Was it just me or did PPCG go down for like a second

SuperJedi224

It didn't work. There was a repeater missing in the relay system.

Chinatsu-creepy-chan

Yup! They never answered me ( when we were not talking about anime/stuff) so I got bored then leaved

TheDoctor

@SuperJedi224 frown

Sp3000

Aww :(

SuperJedi224

01:34

I think it's fixed now.

Yes. It's fixed.

TheDoctor

@Vɪʜᴀɴ too many waffles

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Chinatsu-creepy-chan

Actually this happened about 15 minutes ago. I had been in that chat for about 10 months. I think

Sp3000

I kinda just lurk in the Maid Cafe tbh :P

SuperJedi224

Vɪʜᴀɴ

@TheDoctor aye yai yai

Alex A.

01:37

I said hey

What's going on

Chinatsu-creepy-chan

wow. so star. very meme. much funny

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TheDoctor

wow

Alex A.

amaze

Vɪʜᴀɴ

SuperJedi224

@AlexA. I hooked up an item transport system to my minecart track.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

01:38

this means I'm not going crazy

Alex A.

@SuperJedi224 Nice

TheDoctor

Test drive 2015 robot

►

^ i made that (well i helped)

Chinatsu-creepy-chan

hey guys, must hit my bed.

spank it until it starts to bleed

SuperJedi224

Goodbye.

TheDoctor

@Chinatsu-creepy-chan why? is it a bad bed?

Sp3000

01:40

Why, what did your bed do to you?

Chinatsu-creepy-chan

it makes me unconscious. every night.

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:p

good night everyone

Alien G

Night.

GamrCorps

night

@TheDoctor which kid is you in this one: youtube.com/watch?v=aKARFvTxsWQ

Sp3000

Night Chinatsu-chan~

TheDoctor

@GamrCorps the one driving

GamrCorps

01:43

SO YOU AREN'T A DOG!

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TheDoctor

@GamrCorps I was controlling that human via teleknesis. everyone knows dogs can't use xbox controllers

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GamrCorps

lol

TheDoctor

wow i was young

Alex A.

such youth

TheDoctor

wow

also

Missoula Robotics Team 3216 - The 2014 competition robot in action - Spring showcase 2014.

►

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:55

So sorry but I came here to say that, according to JavaScript, 0 == "". WTF.

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GamrCorps

^ really???

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@GamrCorps Yeah. Type it into your web console

(Right-click -> inspect element -> console tab)

SuperJedi224

That's loose equality. Which is wierd sometimes.

GamrCorps

WHAT IS THIS TRICKERY????

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@SuperJedi224 Yeah.

SuperJedi224

01:56

Strict equality in JS is ===

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Vɪʜᴀɴ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Isn't JavaScript wonderful :\

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

== casts operands to the same type AFAIK

SuperJedi224

Anyway, goodbye.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Vɪʜᴀɴ It's fantastic (semi-sarcastic)

Bye @SuperJedi224 !

GamrCorps

01:57

Bye!

@TheDoctor you are in FRC?

TheDoctor

@GamrCorps mhm

GamrCorps

neato! Our school does Vex.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

twitter.com/StackStatus/status/659909767763132416 So I was definitely not going crazy before

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

O_O WAAAAT

GamrCorps

um.....

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

02:01

wait then why is this still working? O_O

El'endia Starman

well then

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Different server, IIRC.

Alex A.

That Twitter page isn't loading for me. What's going on?

GamrCorps

THE NINETEENTH BYTE HAS BEEN PUT INTO A STATE OF AN EMERGENCY, PLEASE DO NOT PANIC

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman I am enlightened

El'endia Starman

> We are currently mitigating an attack. Standby for updates.

Alex A.

02:02

Attack? D:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I feel like we're in a movie in which if we close the tab, we all die and that this is our only lifeline to the outer world... haha

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GamrCorps

^

Vɪʜᴀɴ

.___.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

This is evil.

El'endia Starman

>_<

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

02:03

I'm ticked because I won't know until later ಠ_ಠ

TheDoctor

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what?

GamrCorps

lol

wait crap its like that for me too....... RIP OCD

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@GamrCorps Me too :P

What a better time to work on my Simplex interpreter...

Vɪʜᴀɴ

Wait what, it works for me now

GamrCorps

not yet here

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

02:05

checks sporadically OMG REALLY?

GamrCorps

OH IT DOES!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ᴏʜ ᴡᴀɪᴛ ɴᴏ ɴᴏᴛ ʏᴇᴛ. ᴡʜʏʏʏʏʏ @Vɪʜᴀɴ

TheDoctor

why does chat still work?

Alex A.

That's... a good question.

GamrCorps

THE STATE OF EMERGENCY HAS BEEN CALLED OFF. RETURN TO BUSINESS AS USUAL.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

02:06

5 mins ago, by El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Different server, IIRC.

Alex A.

NO, KEEP PANICKING

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

HOORAY MINE IS BACK ONLINE

Vɪʜᴀɴ

:D

Alex A.

MINE ISN'T BACK I HAVE TO KEEP PANICKING

GamrCorps

its flickering for me

Vɪʜᴀɴ

02:07

^ same

GamrCorps

THE NINETEENTH BYTE HAS BEEN PUT BACK INTO A STATE OF AN EMERGENCY, PLEASE DO NOT PANIC

Vɪʜᴀɴ

panics

Dennis

@ThomasKwa I don't think there is. ⍣ seems to be part of the syntax, not a normal dyadic function. If there's a way to use trains with ⍣, I have yet to find it.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ᴘᴀɴɪᴄɪɴɢ ɪɴ sᴍᴀʟʟ ᴄᴀᴘs ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴀ ʙᴏsssss ʀᴜɴɴɴɴɴɴɴɴ ᴀᴡᴀᴀᴀᴀᴀʏ

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Alex A.

There's a "k" when "panic" is in present tense.

GamrCorps

02:09

what?

Alex A.

"Panicking," not "panicing."

TheDoctor

panick?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh shoot. I forgot about that. panik :P

GamrCorps

omg its true wtf?

TheDoctor

kanic

Alex A.

02:09

> verb (used without object), panicked, panicking.

GamrCorps

thats so weird

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Those terrifying words

TheDoctor

:<

Alex A.

AH SHAT

GamrCorps

The word offline alone is terrifying

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

02:10

^

Seadrus

hai

WAIT WHAT ITS DOWN

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Vɪʜᴀɴ

not for me

yet

GamrCorps

lucky

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Mine's flickering ATM

quartata

What's going on

Vɪʜᴀɴ

02:13

damn, down again isup.me/http://codegolf.stackexchange.com

GamrCorps

@quartata stack exchange is down

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Mine's working again

GamrCorps

We are currently mitigating an attack. Standby for updates.

Tweeted by StackStatus on October 30, 2015 at 1:48 AM

someone should make a stackstatus twitter bot for this chat.

El'endia Starman

It wouldn't be of much use.

Also...

quartata

An attack? Yipes

El'endia Starman

02:15

We are deploying a mitigation shortly, hang on.

Tweeted by StackStatus on October 30, 2015 at 2:08 AM

GamrCorps

yay!

Vɪʜᴀɴ

while (true) if (ppcg_is_up) alert("Start golfin'")

Thomas Kwa

I wonder what the attack was.

GamrCorps

while (true) { if (pccg_is_down) { alert("Panick!"); prepareForApocalypse(); } }

Seadrus

prolly a troll pissed @ an admin

Vɪʜᴀɴ

02:17

~~I wonder how many programmers lost their jobs from this outage~~

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ about 2/pi

Thomas Kwa

PCG should have, alongside the "people reached" counter, a "$ of programmer time wasted" counter.

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Like the debt clock?

GamrCorps

there is something wrong with this...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

But it is!

Thomas Kwa

02:19

I was thinking for each individual user, but that could work too @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Most of the time.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

@ThomasKwa that's the "Member for..." counter

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GamrCorps

^ lol

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ThomasKwa Why not both? XD

Dennis

@ThomasKwa It wasted time of non-programmers as well.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

02:21

Heeyyyy guess whose controlling the starboard for the first time :3

El'endia Starman

[clears stars]

GamrCorps

Darn, down by one

Thomas Kwa

It would count how much of other users' time you've wasted, so question posters would rank higher than answer posters.

El'endia Starman

(Not really.)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o_o is the doctor on? whose starring everything?

quartata

02:22

@ThomasKwa Imagine what Calvin's would be

GamrCorps

Yay! Now we are tied!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ :D

Except you are winning by star density

Geobits

I leave for half a day and the site goes down? Geez, people.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

we-need-help-geobits

GamrCorps

We shall define a new unit of measure: procrastination per second, equivalent to 2048 * {chat messages per minute}

Geobits

02:24

I think we need a unit for procrastination before procrastination per second really works, no?

GamrCorps

yes what should that be

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I therefore deem one "Geobit" to be a single unit of procrastination

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GamrCorps

yes

Geobits

Works for me.

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

8 Geobits becomes becomes 1 Geobyte, and so forth.

Geobits

02:25

Or, doesn't work anyway.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

A single Geobit is equivalent (By the Gamr Equality) to the guilty tinge one feels whilst procrastinating, i.e., the slight feeling to get back to work, but the urge not to.

GamrCorps

1 Geobit could be equal to {lines of work-relevant code supposed to be written} / ( {lines of work-relevant code actually written} / 2 )

Dennis

I was desperately searching for an esolang that could beat Bash in the cheaty quine challenge. File I/O doesn't seem to be a strong suit of esolangs...

Geobits

Eww, never use bytes when measuring productivity.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^^ perhaps work-relevant @GamrCorps

Geobits

02:27

Might as well shoot for X lines of code per day :(

Vɪʜᴀɴ

Productivity is measured as: "Productivity is measured by comparing the amount of goods and services produced with the inputs which were used in production". Here, that would be zero so productivity per second would cause a divide by zero error

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GamrCorps

@Vɪʜᴀɴ now to define how to divide by zero

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

It's defined by the IEEE to be +Infinity or +Inf @GamrCorps @Vɪʜᴀɴ

Vɪʜᴀɴ

Infinity / 0 === Infinity

quartata

@Dennis mwahahaha

GamrCorps

02:30

So what youre saying is that everyone has Infinity Geobits

Dennis

0

A: A "cheating" quine

Z shell (zsh), 4 bytes <$0 The Z shell has feline functionalities built in. The fourth character is a linefeed. Test run $ cat quine.sh <$0 $ zsh quine.sh <$0 $ diff -s <(zsh quine.sh) <(cat quine.sh) Files /dev/fd/63 and /dev/fd/62 are identical

Thomas Kwa

@Vɪʜᴀɴ Wait... Productivity is being divided by seconds, not seconds by productivity.

Seadrus

No! We call an infinite amount of Geobits one Aleph Geobit.

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GamrCorps

Therefore everyone is doing an infinite amount of procrastination every second

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^

Vɪʜᴀɴ

02:30

@ThomasKwa :|

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Alrighty folks, good night!

GamrCorps

night!

@ThomasKwa just go with it, nothing here has ever made sense

El'endia Starman

G'night!

Seadrus

night conor

Geobits

I'm glad to see that we're expending Geobits nailing down the specifics of Geobits.

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GamrCorps

02:32

Glad to see Geobits expending Geobits whilst discussing others expending Geobits nailing down the specifics of Geobits

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quartata

noooo I got outgolfed by zsh

Seadrus

:D I got 5 stars

Geobits

Oh, and for the record. It's a fucking soft G. gee-oh-bits. I'm not having this turn into a GIF-type issue :P

Seadrus

as in, like, oh geez?

or geometry?

quartata

Noooooo

Seadrus

02:33

or geography?

Geobits

@Sea Yes

Seadrus

cool

i thought it was a hard g

like, geezer

GamrCorps

on that note, how do you guys pronounce "been": "bean" like me or "bin" like others

Seadrus

bin, bean when talking to family

Sp3000

Depends on context

Vɪʜᴀɴ

02:34

bean

quartata

bean

El'endia Starman

bean

Geobits

Like bin most often. Bean sounds like I'm trying to hard to be classy. I just can't pull it off right.

Seadrus

^ (love the carrot)

Sp3000

e.g. bin: "How's it been?", bean: "I've been reading a few books..."

El'endia Starman

02:35

well, not really

GamrCorps

I got yelled at by my English teacher for "pronouncing it wrong" today

El'endia Starman

I don't really say it like "bean" or "bin". The first is too long and the second is too short.

Seadrus

shit roomate is turning of the wifi

El'endia Starman

I say it like "ben".

Geobits

^ Yea, this really

Seadrus

02:35

g2g

El'endia Starman

seeya!

Alex A.

h3h

GamrCorps

bye Seadrus!

Seadrus

seadrus out

Alex A.

@Seadrus Are you calling your roommate a shit or is that "shit" the exclamation?

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Geobits

02:36

@AlexA. h3h? There are three letters between H and L. h3l -> HL3. Confirmed.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

Commas save friendships

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El'endia Starman

@AlexA. I read it the latter way, but now that you mention it...

Sp3000

@AlexA. Or is the roomate's name "S...

Alex A.

@Sp3000 Shit Johnson.

Geobits

Maybe, but that would be a weird thing to say, like "Fred roommate is..."

^ not star-worthy. Make me work for it.

Sp3000

02:39

I dunno, how lazy was Seadrus with commas? "Fred, roomate, is..."

GamrCorps

$$\\0=0\\0\cdot 1=0\cdot 2\\\frac{0\cdot 1}{0}=\frac{0\cdot 2}{0}\\1=2$$

Geobits

Good point...

Wow, I can't believe that worked. All I have to do is ask for something to be unstarred?

PhiNotPi

I carved a pumpkin for you all:

theoworlds.com/halloween/index.php?CardID=664957

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Geobits

So did I! It's to the left over there <---

:D

>_>

Alex A.

...

Geobits

02:48

You get a downvote, and you get a downvote. Everyone gets a downvote! :)

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Doorknob

> A plugin is needed to display this content.

>.>

Sp3000

Then you have to pay tax on the downvote

Alien G

I leave for like 50 min and 109 messages later... .-.

Alex A.

@Geobits Oprahbits?

@Doorknob Flash?

TheDoctor

:P

Doorknob

02:50

@AlexA. ew

Alex A.

:P

Oh @Doorkno, IRC question for you. Where does your bot's code actually run?

Doorknob

@AlexA. on my computer?

Alex A.

Oh, okay. Didn't know if it was Freenode's server or something.

Geobits

Seriously though, I need to figure out what to carve this year. It's getting too late to not know :(

Sp3000

Bring two pumpkins and say that when you carved one and tried to put it back together...

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Alex A.

02:53

@Doorknob So in theory one could write a bot in any langauge that could execute on that person's computer?

Doorknob

@AlexA. uh, sure, if your language has network capabilities of course

Sp3000

(In all honesty though, how does this pumpkin carving work anyway? What do you do with them?)

Geobits

Do with them? Not much, they're just for decoration.

I like carving them, though. It's fun, and people look at you crazy if you do it during other times of the year.

Alex A.

You take a pumpkin, cut off the top, remove the guts, cut a design into the front, put a candle in it, and put outside of your house so that shitty teenagers can smash it.

Sp3000

Ah k

Reminds me, I should probably find some candy on the off chance kids actually come knocking at my house this year... (we've been here 10 years and we've only had 1)

Geobits

02:55

^ from last year :)

Alex A.

Wow, that's really good!

Geobits

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