The Nineteenth Byte

Beta Decay

6:02 PM

Dammit cat

Optimizer

@El'endiaStarman how's that switch case neat at all ?

as a PPCG community member, I cannot stand the so many extra bytes in there

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Geobits

I'd like to see more bytes. I disagree with most style guides that say each case should be at the same indent level as the switch.

quartata

20

A: A "cheating" quine

Z shell (zsh), 4 bytes <$0 The Z shell has feline functionalities built in. The fourth character is a linefeed. The code does not depend in any way on the file name; it works even if the file name contains special character, such as spaces or newlines. Test run $ cat "my quine.sh" <$0 $ zsh...

Perfect... damn... golfing.... robot... monster.... sobs

@Optimizer Hehe

Dennis

@quartata You rang?

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quartata

I've started to golf code just while writing little scripts for myself

@Dennis ;_;

Rainbolt

6:08 PM

@MartinBüttner Thanks - I'll have to read them in a few. I'm in an all day meeting

VoteToClose

@Geobits I only did that for the reader - I left it at one line to make it obvious which character corresponded to which instruction.

quartata

Why does zsh have feline functionalities built in that's cruel to put cats inside a shell

VoteToClose

grumble grumble Somebody downvoted my cat thing even though the spec says I can update preexisting languages. ಠ_ಠ

El'endia Starman

@VoteToClose "Coincidental" timing I would guess...

Geobits

@VoteToClose I don't really mind the way they're on the same line (in this case). I mean I'd rather see the cases indented from the switch, since they're enclosed in braces:

switch(someInt){
	case 1: return 1;
	case 2: return 2;
	//etc
}

Optimizer

6:10 PM

@VoteToClose update that ! sud<er

VoteToClose

@Geobits Oh! That's just eclipse not letting me change it. I would prefer that too.

Geobits

However, most editors disagree with me on that :)

VoteToClose

@Optimizer What do you mean?

Optimizer

nuthin

VoteToClose

! is a surprising instruction that skips the next character

Beta Decay

6:13 PM

I'm thinking of working on this challenge again:

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Evolution of Tetration - Abandoned Note: If you thought you liked this idea, I've made this CW, so you can just revert the edit and work on it yourself.

quartata

6

A: Reverse stdin and place on stdout

Pancake Stack, 342 316 bytes Put this nice pancake on top! [] Put this pancake on top! How about a hotcake? If the pancake is tasty, go over to "". Put this delightful pancake on top! [#] Eat the pancake on top! Eat the pancake on top! Show me a pancake! Eat the pancake on top! If the pancake i...

Optimizer

-15

quartata

lol

Beta Decay

I still don't know what a good difference between each answer would be

Levenshtein distance's been done :P

El'endia Starman

Befunge component is now done!

Geobits

6:15 PM

@BetaDecay Doesn't matter; it says abandoned. It's over now :P

Beta Decay

@Calvin'sHobbies ^^^

@Geobits Yeah but I can always unabandon it

Geobits

Pfft. When you see something on the internet labeled abandoned, you hit the back button and never visit again. It's like a rule or something.

quartata

@Geobits 410 Gone

Geobits

It's not fun like an abandoned house or asylum would be.

Beta Decay

Haha I put abandoned on all of my challenges to reduce clutter

Since when was an abandoned asylum fun?

Geobits

6:17 PM

Why would it not be? Perfect creepy setting for all kinds of mischief.

Beta Decay

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982467/…

This is one near me

VoteToClose

Wait, crap. That doesn't see newlines. Silly me.

Geobits

@BetaDecay Yea, that's exactly the kind of thing I'd expect. It's perfect.

Beta Decay

@Geobits Haha I guess

Dennis

Since the byte count does not form part of the winning criterion anymore, this challenge now boils down to count up to the highest possible value in your language. That's neither particularly interesting nor a programming contest; it's just a search for the language with the largest BigInteger type. — Dennis ♦ 51 secs ago

I don't feel like mod-hammering this, but I do think it should be closed.

Optimizer

6:23 PM

@VoteToClose, I choose you!

Geobits

I did my part :)

Beta Decay

> We come in peace, vote to close, vote to close

Optimizer

+to

Geobits

What did I just half-watch?

Beta Decay

Pure brilliance

Geobits

6:26 PM

Not the part I saw :P

Vɪʜᴀɴ

aww, I just realized, if I want to remove a useless operator from TeaScript. I can't do that without invalidating some answers

Geobits

Time for TeaScript 2 ;)

But if it invalidates answers when you remove it, it might not have been exactly useless.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

Well TeaScript has only existed for 6 days so far...

Beta Decay

TeaScript + Sugar

Geobits

SweetTeaScript

Then SweetIcedTeaScript

SweetIcedTeaWithATwistOfLemonScript

Dennis

6:30 PM

IcedTeaScript: TeaScript ice cold

Beta Decay

LongIslandSweetIcedTeaWithATwistOfLemonScript

Geobits

LongIslandSweetIcedTeaWithATwistOfLemonHoldTheLemonAndTheTeaAndTheIceScript

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Optimizer

^

Dennis

LISITWATOLHTLATTATIScript?

Vɪʜᴀɴ

At this rate. TeaScript 73 will be out within a year

Beta Decay

6:32 PM

JustGetMeDrunkScript

Geobits

@Dennis Yea, but you can just say LISITWATOLHTLATTATIS for short.

Κριτικσι Λίθος

@Vɪʜᴀɴ Make it TeaScript 7.3 instead of 73.

Geobits

Or 0.7.3 ;)

Dennis

@Vɪʜᴀɴ Doesn't seem to be a problem for Chrome.

VoteToClose

This language doesn't count as a programming language, right?

Dennis

6:33 PM

Nope.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

@ΚριτικσιΛίθος I'll just make the new one TeaScript 1.1

VoteToClose

Didn't think so.

Beta Decay

Is bash allowed?

El'endia Starman

@Vɪʜᴀɴ I made a significant change to the way while loops work in Minkolang a few days ago.

The usual "Hello world!" program is now no longer valid.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

I'll rewrite the permalink code so old permalinks lead to a "This is an very cold (old) version of TeaScript"

Geobits

6:35 PM

Or you could just say it's TeaScriptForTwo.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

Do people like Green Tea?

GreenTeaScript...

Geobits

Sane people do.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

HotGreenTeaScript

El'endia Starman

@Vɪʜᴀɴ I actually need to go update (almost) all of my Minkolang answers so they point to the right interpreter...

(I forked the online interpreter so that there's one for Minkolang 0.9.)

Vɪʜᴀɴ

@El'endiaStarman I'll just make a separate page for old versions of TeaScripts then.

Beta Decay

6:38 PM

@Vɪʜᴀɴ Who drinks cold green tea?

I imagine that'd be rank :P

Vɪʜᴀɴ

@BetaDecay The question should be who doesn't? :p

Beta Decay

raises hand

Vɪʜᴀɴ

._.

El'endia Starman

/me doesn't drink tea at all

Alex A.

Any tea that's good hot is usually good cold.

But fruit teas are the scourge of the Earth and should be eliminated.

TheNumberOne

6:40 PM

For Zgarb's HPR language, does anyone know how to iterate over a list and stop iterating when gone around once?

Alex A.

@Zgarb probably does.

Beta Decay

@AlexA. Hot fruit teas make it their mission to burn every tastebud off your tongue :(

New Main Posts

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Q: Shortest ><> numbers

When golfing in ><>, having short numbers is very important. Now write some code. The program should input an integer, and output the shortest ><> representation. For the non-><> users, numbers work like this. 0-9a-f | push to stack +-*, | take x,y off stack, push x(operator)y to stack ...

Vɪʜᴀɴ

StarbucksScript

Dunkin'Script, America runs on Dunkin'Script

Alex A.

haha

Κριτικσι Λίθος

6:40 PM

Or maybe just Script

Alex A.

America compiles to Dunkin'Script

Geobits

@BetaDecay Some teas aren't as good cold, sure. I can't stand macha cold, for example. Most are fine hot or cold, though.

Beta Decay

@Geobits What on earth is macha?

In the UK you have two types of tea: tea with milk and green tea

TheNumberOne

@AlexA. For HPR, I've already figured out all basic boolean expressions and comparison operators. I just can't figure out how to iterate over a list.

Peter Taylor

@BetaDecay I've never seen that version before. I only knew this one

Calvin's Hobbies

6:42 PM

@BetaDecay What now?

Zgarb

@TheNumberOne Depends on what you mean by "iterate" ;)

Beta Decay

@Calvin'sHobbies Never mind, sorry :P

Geobits

@BetaDecay It's this stuff. Some Wikipedians apparently add a 't' to the romanization :/

Beta Decay

@PeterTaylor Ohh that's what I meant to link to :P

TheNumberOne

@Zgarb Rotate a list all the way around exactly once without messing up any additional integers.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

6:43 PM

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Beta Decay

@Geobits Hmm I don't know if I've had that or not

Geobits

It's "greener" than most green teas I've had.

Very popular, though.

Alex A.

> hot properties

hahahaha

@Geobits Ever had a macha latte? shudder

My girlfriend likes them.

Geobits

They're not bad if you like macha ;)

Beta Decay

@Geobits Nope, not had that. I've just had sencha

Alex A.

6:45 PM

I don't mind macha.

Lembik

dear python and perl people...can I advertise codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/62095/… to you please

oh and C and C++ people!

flawr

And I had ~~some~~ too many stroopwaffels.

Beta Decay

My French teacher drinks matte. Anyone know if it's good or not?

Alex A.

@Lembik status-declined

Lembik

mate is ok

flawr

6:46 PM

Hi everyone=)

Peter Taylor

@BetaDecay In my local supermarket you can buy bottles of green tea derived drinks which are intended to be refrigerated. They also have a range of "cold infusions" to which you're meant to add chilled water.

Lembik

@AlexA. what does that mean!

Geobits

@BetaDecay I looked into Sencha once. Didn't see the benefit of it, though.

Κριτικσι Λίθος

@flawr Hi!

Lembik

hi @flawr

Alex A.

6:46 PM

@flawr Halllloooo

Peter Taylor

@BetaDecay As in Argentinian mate or something else?

quartata

0

A: Simple cat program

Groovy, 32 bytes System.in.eachLine({println it}) meow

Beta Decay

@Geobits Wagamama (a Japanese chain restaurant) gives it away for free

Lembik

some versions are unlikely to be legal en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca_tea

El'endia Starman

><> component complete!

quartata

6:47 PM

Does this work correctly for everyone?

Geobits

@BetaDecay I take it that means you didn't follow the link :P

Beta Decay

@PeterTaylor Yep, Argentine, not the cannibis version ;)

quartata

yes | groovy cat.groovy outputs the same as yes but I wasn't entirely certain about it

Alex A.

@BetaDecay wut

flawr

What is it with programmer and cats? Why not write a dog program???

quartata

6:48 PM

@flawr meow

Κριτικσι Λίθος

Or a carrot program: ^^^

flawr

@quartata woof.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

vihanserver.tk/p/TeaScript/?code=P&input=1&v=1

TheNumberOne

@quartata Can't you remove the parenthesis from around the closure?

Optimizer

@flawr or a planecrash program

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Lembik

6:48 PM

@flawr I know.. and there is a nsfw irony too

quartata

@TheNumberOne no

Zgarb

@TheNumberOne Right, and run some code on each rotation. It may or may not be possible...

Lembik

which I hope is just obvious :)

Beta Decay

@Geobits Yeah, I was talking about that ;)

Peter Taylor

@BetaDecay I've never tried it, but according to a friend who lived in Argentina for a couple of years it keeps you awake far more effectively than "normal" tea.

feersum

6:49 PM

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Q: Implement the dog bash utility

dog is a command-line utility that takes in an arbitrary number of arguments, the first of which is the text to be written and the others are arbitrarily many files. The dog utility will split the text in equal portions over these files. If there is a remainder n, the first n files get an additi...

code-golf string file-system

Geobits

@BetaDecay A lot of Japanese restaurants (non-fast-food at least) have macha for free.

Lembik

@PeterTaylor that is presumably real mate de coca

TheNumberOne

@Zgarb Sigh ... that's what I would say in your shoes.

Lembik

as in a precursor for cocaine

quartata

@TheNumberOne Does it work on your system?

The program I mean not removing the parens

Beta Decay

6:50 PM

@PeterTaylor Yeah, it has a high caffeine content

My teacher is always rather mental after drinking it :D

quartata

@BetaDecay I used to really like mate tea (better than coffee)

Alex A.

I'm so confused right now. I'm just imagining Beta and Peter drinking pot tea while Lembik does lines of cocaine.

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Dennis

@PeterTaylor That's how it's known in English? Mate was first consumed by the Guaraní, so it should be Paraguayan mate in any case...

quartata

It's kind of expensive though

@AlexA. ha ha

TheNumberOne

@quartata Give me a moment to check ;)

Lembik

6:51 PM

@AlexA. mate de coca is made from coca leaves :)

@AlexA. these are the same leaves that make cocaine

Zgarb

@PeterTaylor I used to drink mate at some point, but I can't remember whether it kept me awake. I just liked the taste.

Lembik

@AlexA. but outside of S. America it will have been decocainized

Alex A.

@Lembik Right. And one of the original incredients in Coca-Cola, hence the name.

TheNumberOne

@quartata Yes, it does.

Beta Decay

And one of the active ingredients in cocaine

Lembik

6:52 PM

@AlexA. except in south america it still has the main ingredient in it :)

Dennis

By the way, we mainly drink a cold version of mate here, which is called tereré. I'm drinking it right now.

quartata

@TheNumberOne yay

@Dennis Ooh

Optimizer

@Dennis you are drinking your mate right now?

Alex A.

@Dennis Is that anything like yerba mate?

Lembik

@BetaDecay right.. but not outside of S. America

Beta Decay

6:52 PM

@Dennis Oooh coincidental!

Alex A.

@Optimizer dennis-is-vampire

El'endia Starman

I am now OFFICIALLY a 2D language polyglot! :D

quartata

Also

El'endia Starman

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A: Carrots. So. Many. Carrots

Minkolang 0.10, Befunge-93, ><>; 3 2D languages, 355 bytes v[1]: http://i.stack.imgur.com/mecHl.png v[![http://i.stack.imgur.com/mecHl.png][1]][1] >\$$>~:1+!#v_:"^"-#v_1>:59*`#v_v // ^ ,<0 < >:0g,1+v v# ,,:*52< ^+1 ,g1:<@_^#`*85:<1 >!v#(od"^"=,34*&59*[i1+1qO]!...

Lembik

or are we talking about yerba de mate?

quartata

6:53 PM

Related: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club-Mate

@El'endiaStarman wow

Dennis

@BetaDecay Not really. It's the national beverage. I drink it all the time.

@AlexA. Yes. It's yerba mate + cold water.

Beta Decay

@Dennis Oh haha. Is Paraguayan mate different to Argentinian mate?

Dennis

@AlexA. Yes. It's yerba mate + cold water.

Peter Taylor

@AlexA. I'm actually drinking cold ginger and orange tea. (It was hot, about 3 hours ago).

Beta Decay

I'm drinking... nothing :(

Peter Taylor

6:55 PM

@Dennis That's how I know it in English. I think Argentina has more cultural projection in Europe than Uruguay or Paraguay.

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Bulking season The barbells at my gym look like this: =========[]-----------------------[]========= They can hold plates of five different sizes, 2.5 pounds, five pounds, ten pounds, 25 pounds, and 45 pounds: . . ! | . ! | | | | | | | | ' ! | ...

Beta Decay

I would make some nettle tea but I can't be bothered moving

Lembik

ah yes..not moving

always a problem :)

Beta Decay

I need a teasmaid...

Alex A.

The whole point of robotics is to make things that'll do the moving for us. Programmers shouldn't be required to move.

TheNumberOne

6:56 PM

I don't drink tea or coffee, except for the occasional herbal tea when I'm sick.

Dennis

@BetaDecay No. Calling mate Argentinian mate is like calling the Cantor set the Cantor set.

Beta Decay

@AlexA. Ahem: amazon.co.uk/Swan-STM100-Teasmade-White/dp/B002T36P9G

Alex A.

@TheNumberOne Isn't that an LDS thing though, rather than personal preference? (Or perhaps both)

Beta Decay

@Dennis Huh what?

Cantor set?

Alex A.

Cantor set.

TheNumberOne

6:57 PM

@AlexA. Both :)

Alex A.

Cantor set

In mathematics, the Cantor set is a set of points lying on a single line segment that has a number of remarkable and deep properties. It was discovered in 1874 by Henry John Stephen Smith and introduced by German mathematician Georg Cantor in 1883. Through consideration of this set, Cantor and others helped lay the foundations of modern point-set topology. Although Cantor himself defined the set in a general, abstract way, the most common modern construction is the Cantor ternary set, built by removing the middle thirds of a line segment. Cantor himself only mentioned the ternary construction in...

Beta Decay

Oh so mate is the same everywhere

quartata

@BetaDecay I'm just drinking water sadly

Alex A.

Tragic

quartata

I'd rather be drinking coffee

Alex A.

6:59 PM

I'm drinking the blood of the innocent.

El'endia Starman