The Nineteenth Byte

quartata

21:03

Test

Strange...

Martin Büttner

@PeterTaylor I'm glad I could help. :) ee was a great addition in 0.6.5... I rarely have use for it, but when I do it saves quite a lot.

quartata

What who would star that

Martin Büttner

@quartata I know a llama who would.

quartata

...

Well anyways...

Doorknob

/me sighs and begins cancelling stars

18

quartata

21:07

Silly llamas

Geobits

Sailcats, llamas, and birds, oh my!

Alex A.

Birds?

Who said anything about birds?

Geobits

I did.

quartata

@AlexA. Everyone did.

Geobits

I didn't say it had anything to do with stars. Just a passing thought.

Doorknob

21:09

hey

hey you, who's starring things

2

you're annoying >:(

Alex A.

^

Geobits

Nothing like making the mods' job harder, amirite?

quartata

@ಠ_ಠ ಠ______ಠ

'ಠ'_ri*'ಠ

Doorknob

where's that one-click cancel-stars userscript, again? >.>

Alex A.

@Geobits You are not wrong. ಠ_ಠ

Geobits

21:10

@Doorknob Did they ever fix the "I'm seeing stars" thing? ;)

quartata

ಠ__________________________________________________ಠ

Alex A.

Yes

quartata

So mods can't see who stars what?

Alex A.

status-completed

Geobits

Aww

quartata

21:10

That seems like a feature they should add.

Doorknob

@Geobits yeah, now they did

Alex A.

@quartata Anyone used to be able to

Through sneaky means

Doorknob

via websocket trickery

ಠ_ಠ

I see photos of my relatives everywhere.

Alex A.

Socket wrench madhattery

Doorknob

21:11

but no longer, and it's my fault :P

Alex A.

Dಠಠrknob the savior

ಠ_ಠ

* Dಠಠrknಠb the saviಠr

Geobits

Alex, you can edit your posts by pressing up :P

Alex A.

Dörknöb, le Såvîór

@Geobits (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Optimizer

@ಠ_ಠ your relatives are fat

Alex A.

21:13

That's not nice

2

quartata

@AlexA. It's le sauveur

@AlexA. SOCK CONFIRMED

3

Alex A.

@quartata No it isn't

@quartata It's about as confirmed as Half-Life 3.

ಠ_ಠ

@quartata Der Saufer.

Geobits

SockLife 3 confirmed?

Dennis

@AlexA. It's about as confirmed as graduation.

2

Optimizer

21:14

@Geobits if we include @Haha

minxomat

^ hah

Geobits

@Dennis So... set in stone for November, then?

Dennis

Yes, but which November? :P

Alex A.

2112

Optimizer

@Dennis 1990

Geobits

21:15

I don't think I've ever made that clear.

Optimizer

@Geobits even if you have had. It would be false

quartata

@ಠ_ಠ Oh I thought he was speaking in French.

Geobits

It's the November that comes a while after Eternal September. I don't see why that wouldn't be obvious.

quartata

Guess the ö should have clued me in.

OK who is starring all this weird stuff

Alex A.

I wås spæking nothing

Optimizer

21:16

@quartata the shouting/shocked man?

quartata

@Optimizer wat

ಠ_ಠ

Is there a bot that just auto-stars all the messages with the word star in it?

Geobits

@quartata It happens from time to time. Ignoring it usually helps :)

Optimizer

@quartata 2 eyes on top of a wide open mouth

quartata

@ಠ_ಠ No but I could make that happen

Optimizer

21:17

@ಠ_ಠ self descriptive bot, you are

Alex A.

@quartata Do not

Geobits

You didn't get enough anti-bot sentiment earlier? :P

quartata

@AlexA. Twas a jest....

Optimizer

a gist

Geobits

A git

ಠ_ಠ

21:17

@Optimizer Why not blame Doorknob?

Alex A.

@quartata Chris Jester-Young?

quartata

@AlexA. No no not him

Alex A.

weshouldblamedoorknob.tk

ಠ_ಠ

Geobits

Aww, but, but... The Wheel... :(

ಠ_ಠ

21:18

The wheel is a dirty little liar.

Optimizer

@Geobits you should be happy. the wheel always blamed you

@ಠ_ಠ just like you

Geobits

You don't know me well enough if you think that bothers me at all :D

Optimizer

@Geobits -1

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@AlexA. The ಠ_ಠ on this site just look like they have cool eyelashes.

Alex A.

Haha

ಠ_ಠ

21:20

On starring.

Geobits

I've wanted anti-stars for some time now.

ಠ_ಠ

You mean down-stars.

Or falling stars.

Geobits

That name (downstars) does sound better for some reason...

ಠ_ಠ

> (...) for some reason (...)

Alex A.

@ಠ_ಠ I don't have enough Meta.SE rep to downvote :(

Geobits

21:23

(...) looks like an elephant foot.

ಠ_ಠ

~~How does that look like an elephant?~~

Alex A.

^

ಠ_ಠ

^

aditsu

hey, what was that language which had built-ins for a dozen variants of hello world?

Alex A.

Help, Wardog? or something?

Geobits

21:25

Not an elephant, the foot of one. (ooo) would be better though.

aditsu

ah, "Help, WarDoq!", thanks

Geobits

|   |
(ooo)

aditsu

hmm, not suitable though

Alex A.

Unable to wear a suit

Geobits

Makes sense. I've never seen a suit made for a tiny bird.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

21:28

I taught I taw a putty tat, I did, I did!

>.> The internet made me do it.

Alex A.

@VTCAKAVSMoACE What the holy shitcrap

3

minxomat

"The surgery was successful"

VTCAKAVSMoACE

"Do you think we can put it back in?"

ಠ_ಠ

"No."

Geobits

> Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should.

ಠ_ಠ

21:31

> Just because you cannot do it, doesn't mean you shouldn't.

2

Geobits

That belongs on some bad manager's wall.

Alex A.

@ಠ_ಠ ikr #yolo

Geobits

I like If at first you don't succeed, it's probably because you have no talent better.

ಠ_ಠ

I just counted, out of th 477 messages with the word 'star' in it, 39 got starred. Which is about 8%.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@AlexA. There wasn't a single valid English word in that sentence.

Geobits

21:33

I find it really hard to believe only 477 messages have contained the word 'star'. What time frame?

ಠ_ಠ

All messages (according to the search function) at the time of posting.

Alex A.

@VTCAKAVSMoACE juic

orlp

beep

boop

Geobits

Oooh, it searches for star exactly. It doesn't count stars.

quartata

What

@orlp Look out we got a robot

ಠ_ಠ

21:36

~~My new profile pic is online.~~ Only on some pages so far...

Alex A.

What is that a picture of?

Geobits

It's a sock puppet.

Alex A.

It looks horrifying.

flawr

Rather horrified.

Geobits

flawrbombed

quartata

21:39

The mystery is killing me. I must know whether or not you are a sock.

Mods don't have something like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CheckUser

?

Alex A.

I thought everyone here was one of Doorknob's sock puppets.

quartata

@AlexA. Touche

Geobits

I'm NotDoorknob's sock.

flawr

This is getting too meta.

Alex A.

@quartata The mods can find out, sure, but we can't share that information because it's private.

quartata

21:40

@AlexA. Obviously yes

Geobits

And also because it would blow a mod's cover in some cases...

flawr

I heard we are all going to get a diamond when PPCG graduates?

Geobits

Yep, in November.

quartata

Wait what?

Alex A.

Diamonds are November

quartata

21:42

Why would we all get mod status

Geobits

DeBeers is Forever.

ಠ_ಠ

Diamonds Are Forever Opening Title Sequence

►

quartata

That sounds like a bad idea

Alex A.

@quartata Have you not yet learned of the trolling ways of Geobits?

quartata

@AlexA. I have, but not of flawr.

Geobits

21:42

Umm... that wasn't me ><

Alex A.

Oh wait, this was flawr's fault

quartata

I trusted him.

sob

Alex A.

Apparently you can't.

flawr

So we do not get diamonds?????

=(

Alex A.

But if we graduate we'll have formal mod elections like on SO.

orlp

21:43

guys

Geobits

What do you mean if?

ಠ_ಠ

Does that mean we could throw current mods out?

orlp

it's been confirmed

we're going to graduate in N days

Alex A.

@ಠ_ಠ Potentially yes.

@orlp Do you have an upper bound on N?

orlp

tomorrow it'll be N days from then

in N days it'll be N days from then

Geobits

21:44

0 <= N < 2^31

Alex A.

Not necessarily

flawr

N ≤ ∞

quartata

@Geobits You mean -2^31 <= N < 2^31

Doesn't have to be unsigned.

Alex A.

@flawr That's a more reasonable upper bound, I'd say.

Geobits

No, I'm pretty sure it isn't going to happen in the past.

orlp

21:45

-2^31 <= N < 2^31

not <= <=

quartata

@orlp Fixed

I'm stupid lel

2

orlp

protip

if someone is looking to kill you, commit suicide

you can't kill that which is already dead

ಠ_ಠ

mbomb007

3u>=i

quartata

@ಠ_ಠ 'ಠ'_ri*'ಠ

mbomb007

21:48

Same as i<3u

ಠ_ಠ

@quartata What does that mean?

Geobits

What if 3u=i?

quartata

@ಠ_ಠ Try it online

ಠ_ಠ

NumberFormatException: For input string: ""ಠ_

quartata

Give it a number as input.

Well that's funny

It works in the Java interpreter

ಠ_ಠ

21:50

'ಠ'_ri*'ಠ
^
NumberFormatException: For input string: "3456236.34"
ಠ_

quartata

What...?

ಠ_ಠ

Is there a way to directly link some code in aditsu's cjam interpreter?

quartata

quartata@hydra:~$ cjam o.cjam
50
ಠ__________________________________________________ಠ
quartata@hydra:~$

I swear it works

I think so but not sure how

ಠ_ಠ

Like so?

quartata

Yeah works

Except it doesn't render the ಠ correctly

orlp

21:56

I wonder what I'd do all day if I didn't learn english

pretty much everything I do is in english

flawr

Ride bicycle?

orlp

@flawr why would I do that?

Alex A.

Develop a programming language where all of the commands are in Dutch?

flawr

@orlp Because you would not know any english?

orlp

@flawr is a circular argument circular?

Alex A.

21:58

People who know English aren't permitted to ride bicycles.

orlp

@AlexA. some parts of the terminology in my uni are in dutch

and it's always so cringe to switch

"Als we een variabele toevoegen aan deze klasse, dan moeten we die wel onverandelijk maken."

Alex A.

translate: Als we een variabele toevoegen aan deze klasse, dan moeten we die wel onverandelijk maken.

(from Dutch) If we add a variable to this class, then we should be onverandelijk.

orlp

onverandelijk = immutable

DankMemes

> If we add a variable to this class, then we should be immutable?

orlp

If we add a variable to this class then we should make it immutable.

Alex A.

22:01

"Immutable" should really be the word to describe things that don't have a mute button.

orlp

although "dan moeten we wel X" is probably better translated to "we mustn't forget to X"

Alex A.

You said only some parts of the terminology are in Dutch? What's an example of terminology that's used directly from English?

(or any other language for that matter)

flawr

This sounds like a drunk guy speaking german=)

Alex A.

Haha

flawr

But I can actually understand quite a lot if it is written!

Alex A.

22:05

German and Dutch are vaguely related, aren't they?

quartata

Call me stupid but I can't seem to get Bubblegum working.

flawr

onveranderlijk = immutable = unveränderlich

quartata

So I ran lzma -9 on a text file, but upon feeding it back into Bubblegum it just prints out a bunch of nonsense

flawr

Sounds quite similar=)

DankMemes

@quartata lzma -9 --extreme

quartata

22:06

Still doesn't work

DankMemes

MinGW just outputs Not enough memory if I do -9 --extreme even if I have 2GB free

so I ended up using python's lzma

after all that's what the sample implementation uses

quartata

It outputs the exact same thing as matter of a fact (regardless of --extreme)

I'll try just using Python's lzma

orlp

@AlexA. there's a lot

basically, all computer science literature is english

and so is most programming literature

Alex A.

Ah, okay.

DankMemes

lzma.compress(code, format=lzma.FORMAT_RAW, filters=[{'id': lzma.FILTER_LZMA2, 'preset': 9 | lzma.PRESET_EXTREME}])

orlp

22:08

so the dutch terminology usually consists of hamfisted literal translations

quartata

Huh strange

AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'compress'

I wonder why it does that...

Oh wait a second

Huh throws the same error in Python 3 too

That's just strange

aditsu

@quartata check out my song :p

quartata

@aditsu ?

Oh just saw it

Now we have TWO H9+ answers lol

Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried playing the sample song I provided in that post :P

I can't believe nobody noticed it

aditsu

you mean DejaVu?

quartata

Yes

aditsu

22:13

I played it in my head

only 6 notes

quartata

It's supposed to sound like the start of the SMB song

But I probably did it wrong considering I actually wrote that by hand

aditsu

what's SMB?

quartata

Super Mario Bros.

You know, the World 1-1 song?

aditsu

never played :p

I'm guessing it should be this song? youtu.be/3ZtBeiGO5MA?t=30

quartata

Well yes minus the bottles

aditsu

22:17

well, that's close to RTTTL style

quartata

Heh

You know the problem with this challenge now is not that people aren't posting but rather that no one is looking at it and upvoting answers.

I really really don't want this Whitespace answer to win for some reason.

aditsu

did you recognize my song? :p

quartata

Didn't play it

I don't have a MIDI player on my computer atm, what does it sound like?

aditsu

aww I asked you to check it out.. wait what? then how can you evaluate the answers?

quartata

I can't. I leave that to the <s>unwashed masses</s> great people of PPCG.

aditsu

22:21

>_<

Alex A.

ಠ_ಠ

quartata

Ahhh.. ha ha

Funny story...

Uh that wasn't me...

That was.... my cat!

I'm... just going to go now...

aditsu

I was commenting on the "can't" part :p

quartata

Hallo @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Hiya @quartata

I see you had a modified version up :3

quartata

22:23

I did.

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ quartata set up the bot in another room.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Ah, which room?

quartata

Unfortunately I've sudden run into an issue with it.

It seems to infinitely parse the strings...

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I don't know. Not here. :P

aditsu

I'm trying some online RTTTL players but they don't seem to like the format

quartata

22:24

So I almost killed the Nineteenth Byte with infinite Doorknobs

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Ik you don't like it :P

quartata

He thinks it should be a joke-free bot.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Ahhhh

Alex A.

No, I think it should be a whatever it wants bot but in another room.

Like Chat Relay, which has a dedicated room: PPCG Minecraft Server

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Don't you think that obtaining the votes etc. on questions would be helpful though?

Alex A.

22:25

More helpful than just clicking to a different tab? No.

quartata

See the problem with that is that relay doesn't really need any interaction and it doesn't have anything to do with PPCG really

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Lol right

So which room was it in?

quartata

This does. We'll strip it down and do whatever you wish to please the diamond plated defenders of PPCG though...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^^^^^^^^

Alex A.

You could set it up in a room and if people want to interact with it, they can just go to that room. It shouldn't need to be in here.

quartata

22:27

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Beep Boop Maggot

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Ah, right.

aditsu

damn, can't find anything... well, @quartata, I think you shouldn't have posted the question if you have no way to check the answers

Alex A.

^

aditsu

also, I wonder how much it's really an art contest :p

quartata

@aditsu I do have a way to check them technically. I have a PBASIC RTTTL player that uses a little piezobuzzer. But I'd have to wire it up...

I was mostly interested in seeing how people obfuscated them.

I said "make your song pretty" because I figured that would be how other people would judge them

aditsu

22:36

ah ok... well, there aren't many languages compatible with the RTTTL format

DankMemes

^

aditsu

considering that "Hello, World!" does not fit in 8-9 bytes...

DankMemes

using whitespace though, now that was pretty dank

Alex A.

hahaha

aditsu

sounds like the right tool for the job

quartata

22:37

@aditsu I thought it might be easy in some languages where # is a comment

DankMemes

wat wat wat golf.shinh.org/reveal.rb?Missing+Digit/teebee_1443825303&js

I don't even understand how this works

O_o

feersum

I don't know what language that is, but it still doesn't look very scary :P

aditsu

@quartata well, as I said, "Hello, World!" does not fit in 8-9 bytes

anyway, I just hope somebody will listen to my song :p

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^listening to it now

I love the song :D @aditsu

aditsu

thanks :)

I tried to match the topic

Alex A.

22:51

Do you instruments, @aditsu

aditsu

yes I some

Alex A.

wich

aditsu

piano and guitar a little

Alex A.

That's neat :)

I've always wanted to be able to piano

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Alex A.

22:54

I used to be a really avid musician, practicing all the time, almost always playing in a band of some kind, playing shows, etc. Not as much anymore.

aditsu

you can find a clip of me on youtube if you want :p (I won't post it here)

Alex A.

Ok

quartata

I cant seem to get any MIDI players working so Im just going to print out the RTTTl file and play it

aditsu

@AlexA. what did you play?

Alex A.

Guitar

And singing. I played bass in a band for a while.

quartata

22:55

Semi extreme but I am really curious to hear it now

Alex A.

For a while I collected instruments, so I have a whole bunch and I'm not very good at most of them.

But I've been playing guitar for about 15 years.

aditsu

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I hope you recognized it (you didn't really mention that)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@aditsu It's sounds familiar ^_^

quartata

I didnt recognize it but it is very pretty

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ true

aditsu

23:00

aww

quartata

A good fit for the challenge

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I only really listen to rock songs

aditsu

it sucks that RTTTL has only one "voice", otherwise I could make it sound much better

quartata

(I did cheat while playing it and used two hands and the pedal please forgive me for not sticking to the rtttl format)

aditsu

haha, some of the notes are actually supposed to go together

Alex A.

23:02

@aditsu Holy crapsticks, you're super good at piano

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

LOL Yup

aditsu

umm, thanks, but there are plenty of 9 year olds who can do the same :p

Alex A.

I don't think so

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

But none of us who can, eh?

Alex A.

Also I didn't know you were married :)

quartata

23:03

The main theme (i-iio-V) does definitely come across which is nice

What song did he play?

aditsu

Evan Xue (age 7) plays piano Flood Time by Eric Thiman

►

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

wat

quartata

^

aditsu

it sounds so impressive, but it's not actually really difficult

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

lol

quartata

23:10

True but still nice considering hes 7.

aditsu

yes, it's really great for 7 :)

quartata

I was doing pretty basic stuff (scales,small pieces) then.

aditsu

me too, I think

anyway, I gotta sleep()

quartata

I'm jealous he got to play on a nice piano :/

bai

aditsu

buy :)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

23:14

gnight!

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