The Nineteenth Byte

flawr

22:00

Goddarnit Doorknob!

VTCAKAVSMoACE

D:

Alex A.

over-my-head oblivious

flawr

shouldweblamedoorknob.yes

Alex A.

@flawr Down starring?

@flawr registers this domain

flawr

Like downvoting but with stars.

Alex A.

22:01

That's what I figured you meant.

flawr

That is what it was actually supposed to mean, good job, @AlexA.

Alex A.

:/

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Is .yes a valid domain? o.o Man, they've really developed this.

Doorknob

github.com/KeyboardFire/sevichat/commit/…

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El'endia Starman

@VTCAKAVSMoACE I'm becoming convinced again that it's impossible. There is no way to take x,y as input and have a stack like [x,y,x,y], which is what I would need in order to calculate such a formula.

Alex A.

22:03

@Doorknob :D

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Don't try to generate the spiral, try to generate the lines. Then test for primality.

flawr

@Doorknob is there really no confirmation required?

El'endia Starman

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Okay, tell me what formula I need to use to generate the lines.

Doorknob

@flawr now there is

Alex A.

(if you use the userscript, that is)

VTCAKAVSMoACE

22:04

There's no official formula - think about the pattern that the spiral forms.

El'endia Starman

@VTCAKAVSMoACE I get that. But I need specific numbers. How do I calculate them?

quartata

What did I miss?

Alex A.

Me

VTCAKAVSMoACE

If you know the pattern, you can get the numbers. Plus, it really wouldn't be in good spirit if I just straight up told you.

Alex A.

@quartata You missed me. I can tell.

flawr

22:06

@quartata You missed this (including the following messages.)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

... I won't even try to catch up.

quartata

Ah I see.

So Alex said something and got a lot of stars, and we're blaming Doorknob for something.

El'endia Starman

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Post a ><> answer without using reflection or stack manipulation and I'll believe you.

quartata

Got it.

El'endia Starman

Or, actually, you don't need to post it. Just figure out one.

quartata

22:09

Something smells fishy...

flawr

I made a (objectively funny) joke that Alex did not get (as always) but the rest thought it was funny. Doorknob was laughing so hard he accidentaly hit the delete button.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

quartata

@flawr Ah I see.

Doorknob

I actually pressed delete instead of reply

I mean come on it's like one key away :P

quartata

Not an excuse.

shouldweblamedoorknobdefinitely.yes should be a thing

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

22:10

shouldweblamedoorknob feature-request

6

quartata

status-accepted

VTCAKAVSMoACE

far-too-many-upvotes

Alex A.

status-ಠ_ಠ

3

flawr

status-removed

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

El'endia Starman

22:11

@flawr [claps] Yay!

quartata

status-inconclusive

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@flawr Good job!

flawr

Thanks!

status-foo

quartata

@flawr I think the correct one is status-declined

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

status-tag

flawr

22:12

^ thats what I am refering to

quartata

status-status

DankMemes

doorknob accidentally deleted a message?

quartata

uh-yes

Doorknob

shhhhh

quartata

tell-the-world

dont-let-him-cover-it-up

flawr

22:16

doorknob-the-deleter

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Thanks @sporadic upvoter ^_^

DankMemes

deleterknob

3

flawr

delete-the-knob

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Probably me.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Thanks! :D

quartata

22:19

I'm just going around upvoting stuff because I feel like it.

You got a +1 for using Desmos.

Doorknob

hey look @AlexA. I accidentally deleted a message and now I have 50% of the starboard and you only have 20%

I should delete random messages for no reason more often

10

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Ah, I see. :)

quartata

Here's one for you to delete

flawr

must-resist

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Plus your Manhattan challenge looked real nice, might try to write a Groovy answer

Thomas Kwa

22:20

Can someone who knows Haskell tell how well-golfed this is?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata Sweet! I appreciate your interest.

DankMemes

<font color='gray'>(removed)</font>

aww

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@flawr Hey. Check this out.

Thomas Kwa

I'm a quarter of the way through a TI-BASIC answer to @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ's challenge; it'll cost more than 300 bytes.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ThomasKwa Which challenge?

Thomas Kwa

22:22

the Manhattan one

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Ah, cool

Thomas Kwa

no way I'm parsing html with a calculator

Alex A.

@Doorknob D:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@ThomasKwa XD Right

Alex A.

@flawr "As always?" ಠ_ಠ

quartata

22:24

ಠ_ಠ

Huh, now I kinda wonder.

Does ಠ mean anything in any programming language?

flawr

As always, right!

quartata

Like does it mean something in APL maybe?

Alex A.

Haha no

Doorknob

@quartata in Rust it means syntax error

Alex A.

^

hhahaha

flawr

22:25

It is probably a valid Foo program.

quartata

@flawr Everything is a valid Foo program.

Alex A.

You can assign it as a variable in Julia.

quartata

I mean that literally.

Alex A.

ಠ = 1

quartata

quartata@hydra:~/eso$ echo 'ಠ' > test.foo

Thomas Kwa

22:27

@quartata I ain't no valid Foo program.

quartata

quartata@hydra:~/eso$ foo test.foo

quartata@hydra:~/eso$

Oh sure it didn't output anything but it worked

flawr

@AlexA. ಠ++;

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ಠ+-

quartata

ಠ /= 0;

DankMemes

@quartata ಠ_ಠ is a valid identifier in JS

Alex A.

22:28

@flawr ++ has no meaning in Julia (yet--they're considering it for concatenation wtf)

quartata

@AlexA. kek

Alex A.

Kek?

DankMemes

meme-2-english translation: what you said was slightly amusing

flawr

I always wondered why ++ಠ-- is not possible in languages that have pre/post/in/decrement

Alex A.

@DankMemes It's probably a valid identifier in just about any language that supports unicode input.

quartata

22:29

Actually it's Horde Faction to english.

Alex A.

Horde Faction?

El'endia Starman

WoW.

quartata

WoW.

El'endia Starman

And I don't even play it. :P

quartata

I don't either.

El'endia Starman

22:30

Ha!

Alex A.

WoW?

Oh!

World of Warcraft

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

LoL

XD

DankMemes

WoW LoL

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ League of Legends?

DankMemes

world of legends

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

22:31

@quartata Yes. ^_^

quartata

League of Warcraft wouldn't be a terrible title for a video game honestly.

El'endia Starman

@DankMemes WoLoLoLo...

Alex A.

@quartata Yes it would.

quartata

sniff

Doorknob

@AlexA. wand of wishing

DankMemes

22:32

well it wouldn't if league and wow didn't exist

Alex A.

@Doorknob Wiggle or Waggle

quartata

@Doorknob Rodney: quartata wished for "a magic wand to make people get NetHack references" on turn 1337

Doorknob

:D

Alex A.

@DankMemes Yes. "Warcraft" is copyrighted, so some people would get pissed. Like how Bethesda sued Mojang over the use of "scrolls."

DankMemes

wat

Alex A.

22:34

I don't understand anything. weeps

quartata

@AlexA. Still doesn't make sense.

Doorknob

@quartata For a moment, you feel something in your hands, but it disappears!

DankMemes

ಠ_ಠ

@Doorknob ᗡ:

quartata

@Doorknob Rodney: quartata (Tou Hum Neu Fem) was killed by the Wrath of Set on turn 1340

Alex A.

Who the hell is Rodney

DankMemes

22:35

^

quartata

Rodney is #nethack's chat bot

Doorknob

he's also this really annoying guy who tries to steal your quest arti

quartata

And gives you mochas brewed at absolute zero.

Alex A.

Oh, that Rodney. </sarcasm> #stilldontgetit

quartata

I mean, really?

Doorknob

22:35

@quartata hahaha

Alex A.

Is NetHack like Basements & Lizards?

Doorknob

you mean > and :?

Alex A.

I don't think I mean that

DankMemes

I wish the OP here would update the scores

want to see how the bot I put way too much effort into actually does

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ me too

Alex A.

22:39

For a moment, you think you understand something. But then you don't.

Doorknob

Who was that Maud person anyway?

DankMemes

this is why we need a koth server and koth leaderboard snippet

El'endia Starman

@VTCAKAVSMoACE: I'm actually having difficulty determining whether I can even do factorial. A while loop will continue until the top of stack is 0. I can build up a stack of [n,n-1,...,2,1] and multiply it together, but I have no way of knowing when it's done so I can exit just before it gets multiplied by 0.

PhiNotPi

This is why my KOTH server will come in handy. No need to wait on OP.

Alex A.

@Doorknob Daurnaab, Älyx, Merton, and Dęñis are mauds.

Doorknob

22:41

@quartata halp nobody gets the Maud reference ;(

DankMemes

was referring to your thing @PhiNotPi

VTCAKAVSMoACE

I think in fish that would be something along the lines of :i+?!\ to escape the loop, no?

El'endia Starman

...are you using the input?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Negative one - 1- looks less pretty.

El'endia Starman

So you're duplicating, subtracting one, and then checking to see if this is zero?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

22:45

Yeah - this is with the current value of n_k

El'endia Starman

Yeah, that's how you build the stack.

How do you multiply it all together and know when to stop? The stack has a bottomless well of 0s.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

O.o I think I need to take a closer look at your language.

El'endia Starman

If I were using Befunge, I could swap the top two values and check to see if I have 0.

Befunge behaves this way too. It has a bottomless well of 0s for the stack.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

My brain hurts.

PhiNotPi

@AlexA. Hourly progress report: koth-phinotpi.rhcloud.com/runkoth.pl

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

22:48

BRB eating dinner

DankMemes

@PhiNotPi I suggest using ajax to periodically update the report rather than making people refresh

or even better

use long polling or websockets to have the server push updates

also the title of your page is Untitled Document

PhiNotPi

The "Report" area isn't simply printing a file though. It can be generated by, say, a program written by the KOTH author for fancy formatting or other stuff.

DankMemes

hmm

well some way of making the report always "up to date" would be nice

PhiNotPi

Whatever data is generated by the report program, which could be HTML with Javascript/etc. inside of it, is sent to the user.

Maybe.. I could have some kind of trigger that detects when the controller ends and prints and update...

or some other kind of trigger mechanism

VTCAKAVSMoACE

I still want the site to have unicorns and rainbows...

El'endia Starman

23:02

&:#v_^
-1:<^:
_v#:\<*
 < @.$

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Try this in this Befunge online interpreter.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

I'm on mobile right now, so I can't. Plus, it's midnight for me, so, I might sleep soon.

Sp3000

23:43

Reduce * in ><> could be >l1=?v* (is this what we're doing?)

PhiNotPi

Anybody else ever read this book? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_Things_Work

I just had a flashback to elementary school.

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