The Nineteenth Byte

Ubuntu Studio is an officially recognized derivative of the Ubuntu Linux distribution, which is explicitly geared to general multimedia production. The original version, based on Ubuntu 7.04, was released on 10 May 2007. == Features == === Real-time kernel === The real-time kernel, first included with Ubuntu Studio 8.04, was modified for intensive audio, video or graphics work. The 8.10 Ubuntu Studio release lacks this real-time kernel. It has been reimplemented in the 9.04 Ubuntu Studio release and stabilized with the release of 9.10. 10.04 Ubuntu Studio, in contrast, does not include ...

Alex A.

Oh neat

quartata

8:04 PM

Marketing target Multimedia enthusiasts

It's a me

Alex A.

:)

quartata

Yeah it's nice

Alex A.

Your next VM should be ElementaryOS. @PhiNotPi has experience in this area.

quartata

@AlexA. Ah yes, ElementaryOS. I've been watching that one for a couple years.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Windows 10 is stupid - 8.1 finally had a better way to deal with IPv6 floods, then Windows 10 is entirely vulnerable.

quartata

8:05 PM

A DE I've been watching for a while too: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89toil%C3%A9

Alex A.

All Windows versions suffer from the same problem: They're all Windows.

quartata

Developments dead sadly... I'm hoping someone will pick it up.

Alex A.

You could be the one to pick it up!

quartata

@AlexA. Truth.

@AlexA. Just because I CAN program in Objective-C doesn't mean I WANT to.

Alex A.

I'm not sure if it's the fact that I don't remember much French or if it's just how my mind works, but I thought "étoilé" was the word for "toilet."

2

"That's weird, why would someone name an OS 'toilet'?"

quartata

8:07 PM

It means starlit.

Toliet is toilette.

I can see why you might make that connection though...

Alex A.

Yeah, I remembered that after read the beginning of the Wikipedia article.

quartata

the toil part is in both.

Alex A.

New from Alex's Dumb Productions: ToiletOS.

2

It will be TempleOS for those who worship the ceramic throne.

quartata

My RTTTL challenge is so lonely...

I'm tempted to post my own answer just to coax more people into posting.

Alex A.

Ronald Told Terrance To Lie

(RTTTL)

quartata

8:11 PM

Someone literally just posted.

Alex A.

Was it you?

quartata

And it's in a language I've never seen before.

No.

What language?

123.

That's the language?

8:11 PM

Guess that's a natural.

Yes.

Alex A.

Hm.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Two answers*

One's in Whitespace.

quartata

Yeah that ones been up for a while.

It's the easiest one really.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Oh, I thought you said that there was only one answer overall.

quartata

There was.

Until now.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

8:13 PM

Got it. :P

quartata

You know, I've been thinking about making a Java golfing language.

I'm not really sure what exactly to put it in though. The one major thing I thought of was partial matching for classes/methods

And obviously making it script like (not pure OOP)

Alex A.

That's when you know you've gone off the deep end of PPCG addiction: When you decide to create your own golfing language.

2

quartata

I feel like I could make something real nice though. Like Pyth for Java.

@AlexA. Diagnosis?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

What would you call it? Ja?

Alex A.

@quartata Code golf addiction.

quartata

8:22 PM

@VTCAKAVSMoACE I don't know why, but I was thinking about it the other day and the word Downdraft popped into my head.

I like the sound of it.

(Doesn't actually have anything to do with Java)

But then again, CJam is written in Java and the name doesn't have anythig to do with Java.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

If it's going to be a derivative of Java, it probably should have some reference to it in the title.

quartata

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Well just look at Groovy and Scala.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

True. Very true.

quartata

Or take a look at Julia. That's obviously a derivative of Python, but there isn't anything related to it in the title /alexbait

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Again, true - I digress.

quartata

8:25 PM

Heh

Alright I'm going to implement partial matching and see what that looks like.

Alex A.

@quartata ಠ_ಠ

Do you want to get chat banned for lies and slander? :P

quartata

Fight me

ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

ಠ___________ಠ

quartata

ಠ________________________________________ಠ

Alex A.

ಠ_______________________________________________________________ಠ

DankMemes

8:27 PM

ಠ__________________________________________________________________________________________________ಠ

minxomat

Oh, not again...

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Heh... Chat wrapping makes that make my eyes hurt.

Alex A.

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I got it to the limit of "This message is too long"

quartata

++++[->++++++++<]>.[->+++++<]>.[->+++++++<]>-..................................‌...............................................................+[->+++++++<]>.

DankMemes

alt+ca0 is my favorite shortcut now

Alex A.

8:29 PM

What does it do?

quartata

Ah what the characters don't render in the terminal.

Well oops.

this -> ಠ

GG

Great Grandpa?

good game

8:29 PM

ಠ_______________________________________ಠ

PhiNotPi

no re

Pietu1998

while True:print("ಠ"+"_"*(len(input())-1)+"ಠ")

Alex A.

Glorious Grill

Pietu1998

ಠ________________________________________ಠ

minxomat

Alex A.

8:30 PM

Careful, all of the disapproval will rush to your head

PhiNotPi

It's raining again outside. :(

quartata

HAI 1.3 GIMME X VISIBLE "ಠ"! IM IN YR LOOP UP VAR!!1 VISIBLE "_"! IZ VAR BIGGER THAN X? KTHX IM OUTTA YR LOOP VISIBLE "ಠ"! KTHXBYE

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@quartata PP3gPPPs=KSPPs=KSPPPs=c::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::aSPPPs=.

Alex A.

@PhiNotPi Going to go for a swim in the street today?

@quartata One eye?

quartata

oops

Pietu1998

8:31 PM

@minxomat ¿ǝɹǝɥʇ dn ʇᴉ s,ʍoɥ

Alex A.

Also you need VISIBLE "ಠ"! to suppress the newline

minxomat

@Pietu1998 ǝɔıu ǝʇınb

quartata

What a plebian language.

Alex A.

Haha

Or should I say, lol.

quartata

Hue hue hue

Alex A.

8:33 PM

Saturation saturation saturation

Pietu1998

Lightness lightness lightness

quartata

Contrast contrast contrast

Alpha Alpha Alpha

Gamma gamma gamma

Red red red

8:34 PM

Blue blue blue

quartata

Nononono

Blue blue blue

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Has anyone else encountered this before?

quartata

Now we're mixing color formats

Alex A.

Oh crap

quartata

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Yes.

PhiNotPi

8:34 PM

Yellow yellow yellow

DankMemes

yep

most of us

quartata

It was my favorite esolang for quite a while.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Heh. I really want to use that.

DankMemes

I was just trying to port the python/lolcode thing to arnoldc now

problem is there's no string type

:(

Alex A.

Aw, that's adorable.

Like FORTRAN IV

minxomat

8:35 PM

.A xelA

Alex A.

wat

minxomat

Damn, image oneboxing screwed this up.

Alex A.

you rotat ma burd

2

El'endia Starman

Today I learned:

DankMemes

RIP english

Alex A.

8:37 PM

how he suppost eat

El'endia Starman

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quartata

So in theory with the partial matching I want to implement and more flexible syntax

System.out.println('test');

Will look like

DankMemes

IT'S SHOWTIME TALK TO THE HAND "test" YOU HAVE BEEN TERMINATED

lol

Alex A.

YOU HAVE BEEN, FOR WHATEVER REASON, ELECTED AS THE GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA

3

Good lord, I'm slaughtering the starboard today.

8

quartata

Sy.o.\31('test'

That's what it might look like.

Still not that short though.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

8:40 PM

Or you could just do p('test' - System.out.println is so common anyways.

Alex A.

Why would you not import System by default?

quartata

Not how java works

System.out is a static variable.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

^

Alex A.

Oh, I'm thinking C++ with namespace std

quartata

java.lang.System is always imported, it's just that's how you then reference it

VTCAKAVSMoACE

8:41 PM

Namespace sounds like a terrible disease to have. O.o

minxomat

> Namespace sounds like a terrible disease to have.

wat

quartata

Something not most people know though is that you can import static java.lang.System.out

Then refer to it like out.println();

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Namespace... STD... no? Okay.

Alex A.

Oh, I see.

ಠ_ಠ

minxomat

Works. If you are ten.

Alex A.

8:43 PM

^

VTCAKAVSMoACE

:c Meh.

Alex A.

Luckily I just turned 11.

quartata

Anyways, so Sy matches to System, o matches to out and \31 is the thirty first function of out from the top (i.e println(String) )

@VTCAKAVSMoACE See the way I want to do this first is to make it as similar to Java just with the shortened syntax, then starting implementing such builtins.

That'll give me more of a base to make decisions on.

DankMemes

I wonder if that will help make Java competitive with other langs

quartata

@DankMemes It will.

It's actually shorter than Groovy's println which I'm proud of for some reason.

First I've got to make this work

VTCAKAVSMoACE

8:46 PM

Math would be Ma, then?

quartata

Just M.

No other M classes are imported by default.

Alex A.

Mmmmmmmmmmath

quartata

And now I know where the name comes in.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

8 mins ago, by Alex A.

Good lord, I'm slaughtering the starboard today.

No kidding.

Alex A.

Haha

quartata

8:48 PM

So for the number functions "\31" you can use a "downdraft" char to swap from starting at the top of the class to bottom of class.

Pietu1998

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Seriously... ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

You're missing one at the bottom too

El'endia Starman

@NewMainPosts It annoys me a little that this was posted before I implemented for loops in Minkolang. Is it allowed to use a feature I had planned beforehand even though it was implemented later?

minxomat

No?

Alex A.

^

VTCAKAVSMoACE

8:50 PM

Absolutely. :P The programming language wasn't specifically made to do this question, so I think it's fine.

Alex A.

@VTCAKAVSMoACE It isn't per our usual rules.

minxomat

Or per the consensus (if you want to be a smart-ass) :P

VTCAKAVSMoACE

I thought the rule was that the programming language in it's entirety couldn't be made for a question, not just a function.

DankMemes

I would say so

Just note that you had planned the feature before the question was posted and implemented it as planned

minxomat

There. Not it's a fatass

Alex A.

8:52 PM

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Typically we say that language features must be implemented prior to the posting of the question.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Okie. :P Welp.

Feel free to post it, but it won't win.

minxomat

I released a thing (and probably the most extensive wiki I've ever written for a github project).

Alex A.

What is GLSL?

minxomat

@AlexA. C for GPU shader cores.

El'endia Starman

Given that I did have while loops implemented, I think I'll do a solution in that, then do one with for loops. It's just going to be harder and longer to work with only while loops.

Alex A.

8:54 PM

@minxomat What are GPU shader cores?

minxomat

The cores of a GPU that calculate shaders...

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@El'endiaStarman Post both in one answer - note down that for loops were made later, though.

minxomat

OpenGL Shading Language

OpenGL Shading Language (abbreviated: GLSL or GLslang), is a high-level shading language based on the syntax of the C programming language. It was created by the OpenGL ARB (OpenGL Architecture Review Board) to give developers more direct control of the graphics pipeline without having to use ARB assembly language or hardware-specific languages. == Background == With advances in graphics cards, new features have been added to allow for increased flexibility in the rendering pipeline at the vertex and fragment level. Programmability at this level is achieved with the use of fragment and ve...

El'endia Starman

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Of course.

quartata

Ugh. In order to get this working I'm going to have to write my own class loader.

Bleh.

Alex A.

8:57 PM

@minxomat Ah yes, graphics something something. Well your thing looks neat!

Congrats!

quartata

Oh wait I just figured out a way to do it without a class loader.

It still involves reflection. Bleh/2

minxomat

@AlexA. No, not grpahics. GPGPU is a term for general purpose calculations on GPUs. Like cryptohashing, weather analysis etc. Basically it allows you to perform math on up to 659344 floats at the same time :)

Alex A.

Holy crap

Even cooler!

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