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7:00 PM
@RadvylfPrograms make that rule #34
 
@DLosc Not totally related, but one of my pet peeves is when people put stuff like "tomorrow" on notices and stuff where the date is unclear
I've also come upon some data where one of the properties has a name that's similar to isCurrentlyActive and it's true for people who were last around in like 2020
 
This message was posted pretty recently
 
@DLosc The technological eras in Civilization 5 are Ancient, Classical, Medieval, Renaissance, Industrial, Modern, Atomic, and Information
 
@RadvylfPrograms I mean, that's fine, because this is chat. You can look at the time the message was posted and that message is probably going to be forgotten pretty soon
 
what if we're all going to be forgotten pretty soon
 
7:05 PM
I mean, "pretty soon" is relative, so we are all going to be forgotten pretty soon (for some definition of "soon")
 
@graffe Yeah you hear the word "bungalow" pretty frequently in India
I've also seen it used for 2-story houses
@RadvylfPrograms I've seen "Indian" used to mean Native Americans plenty of times, but never "Anglo-Indian"
 
lmao
when you definitely know what words mean
 
I wonder how many words there are that really come from English and Native American languages
 
There's at least enough to fill an A4 sheet of paper
 
7:12 PM
"really come from"?
 
^^
 
I know because the regional spelling bee I won in 3rd grade broke down the word list by origin :p
 
Nice way to sneak in that flex :P
 
7:14 PM
Spelling bees are so weird. Imagine a language so objectively bad you can compete on who can actually use it the best.
 
Is the spelling bee an international competition?
 
Gotta love English
@mathcat The one I did was a national one
 
Also, I thought we came to the conclusion spelling is very subjective.
 
It used to be before those morons made dictionaries
 
heh my old school did a spelling bee that ultimately led to a national one but was cut off bc novemdecimcoronavirus
 
7:15 PM
I ended up tying for the win thanks to mispelling the word "rabbinic"
 
@Wezl' If they ever have another one again, here's one piece of advice: gabbro
 
rabbinic is cinnabar spelled backwards with the wrong letter doubled
If they ever have another one again-- I'm not participating. It was painful
 
I attended a spelling bee when I was in 2nd grade, I just remember I got 43 points in the first round, my neighbour got 43 too and I spelt milk as milc.
 
:|
 
huh how does a spelling bee work with points?
 
7:19 PM
I don't remember anything other than that
I think 60 was max?
 
yeah the spelling bees I've done have been single elimination. In every round, everyone spells one word, and if you get it wrong, you're out.
 
I won a spelling bee once. The second-place competitor lost on "guitar."
 
the one time I've tried one it was single elimination (except in the last round where the last two survivors both got their words wrong and we had to have an extension)
 
I remember the prep more than the bee itself. "Business" and "bureau" gave me some problems. And apparently "smith" (person who works with metal) and "Smith" (last name) were considered separate words, and you had to give the correct one (spelling the latter "capital S, M, I, T, H"). I think the only way to disambiguate was to ask for the definition.
 
@DLosc Did the person reading the word say it weird or something? (I lost a spelling bee once because I heard "embarrass" as "amberous" since the person reading had an accent)
 
7:23 PM
@user that's crazy. Really??
 
@DLosc ...that is so dumb. How do they expect you to know which smith it was if you didn't know to ask for the definition beforehand?
 
@user I don't think so. I don't remember how the other kid spelled it, but if I had to guess I'd say maybe "gitar."
 
@mathcat just American I think
 
@graffe Yeah (not that I had any chance of winning the bee anyway, and it was just a 5th grade class-level bee, not even a regional one)
 
@user Also, ouch.
 
7:24 PM
@graffe weird
 
The Americans like to make competitions from everything at high school
 
@DLosc tbf I realized it was "embarrass" with a few seconds left and promptly misspelled it as "embarass"
 
Wait did you get to re-spell it if you had time or something?
For us we just had to spell it, once
And if it was wrong it was wrong unless you didn't finish yet and asked to retry
 
Yup, this was a low-level 5th grade bee, it wasn't serious at all
 
@user They expect you to know that it's ambiguous and that you have to ask for the definition. I agree that it's dumb that they included proper nouns, but having to ask for a definition makes more sense if it's something like bare/bear.
 
7:26 PM
I lost a spelling bee in 2nd grade because I overthought how to spell "behavior"
I spelled "behav", paused for a minute, then finished with "vior"
 
you mean you spelt it with two vs
 
@DLosc oh my god i hate bureau
 
@pxeger Yes, unintentionally
 
@RadvylfPrograms that's just cruel!
 
I knew that it had one v, but forgot I had already said it
 
7:31 PM
But you missed out the u :)
 
yeah lol
 
@RadvylfPrograms they should have given it to you
 
@graffe Well tbf they had no way of knowing whether it was a mistake or I actually thought that was how it was spelled
 
@pxeger :)
@RadvylfPrograms you are too kind to the sadists
 
@RadvylfPrograms that's just how spelling bees are isn't it
 
7:32 PM
@graffe I wanted to make that joke, but at the same time I want to be patriotic :P
 
@DLosc honestly homophones should just be banned. homophobes also :P
 
@Wezl' :-D
 
@thejonymyster What about homophobic homophones? If you know someone named Smith who forges iron tools and hates gay people?
Or do they cancel out
Like, homophonia xors with homophobia
 
@RadvylfPrograms theres a joke to be made about the fact that the different letters are nb but i cant come up with it
 
@thejonymyster Easy typo on a QWERTY keyboard
 
7:36 PM
unrelated:
CMC: Given a list X of positive integers, return a binary string Y such that the nth digit of Y has the same parity as the number of times n appears in X
 
@DLosc I think they're referring to nb standing for non-binary
 
@RadvylfPrograms Isn't that a homophonic homophobe, not a homophobic homophone?
 
Oh right
A homophobic homophone would be a word that sounds identical to another but is in some way homophobic
 
listing all the homophobic words we know, sounds like a great use for SE Chat /s
on Wezl''s current list of great alternative discussion topics are: cats | music | hexagonal esolangs | toothpick knitting | the sun | peanut butter
 
pentagonal lang when
 
7:45 PM
Ooh I have a hexagonal esolang
 
@thejonymyster the tessellation thing is going to be an obstacle
 
you could just have the code around the edges of the pentagon
 
@Wezl' just use a non euclidean plane :P
 
@thejonymyster BQN, 6 bytes: 2|·≠¨⊔
 
beeswax and labyrinth were some of the first esolangs to get me interested in esolanging and coding in general
@thejonymyster hmm, can't seem to find a vs code extension for that :P
 
7:49 PM
@Wezl' Maybe use irregular pentagons?
 
I mean yes obstacles will have workarounds. they're still obstacles though
 
what about an esolang that uses an aperiodic tiling
2
more practically ("practical"), has anyone done a 2d esolang but on a sphere?
 
k let me walk home real quick. when I'm back in wifi (~20m) I'm expecting at least one language prototype :P
 
@pxeger i mean we have plenty of torus langs, but doesnt sphere run into map projection issues
 
can't you just use longitude and latitude coordinates?
 
7:52 PM
Toruses still have map projection issues, right?
The outside is longer than the inside
 
I don't see why you'd need a perfect projection anyway
 
I don't think I'd call a projection of a torus any more accurate than a cylindrical projection of a sphere
 
oh ok
 
@pxeger Yeah this too
 
so with a sphere instead of a torus, what happens when you go to the edges n stuff?
 
7:54 PM
you go around
it's a sphere
 
You wrap around the same way you would on a sphere
 
last I checked, spheres don't have edges
I'm sat staring at the Robinson Projection map on my wall working out how this would work now
 
cant tell if yall are joking LOL
 
Like if you're at +30° longitude, +85° latitude, and you try to go north by 10°, you end up at -30°, +85°
(I'm not sure what the standard order for longitude and latitude coordinate pairs is)
 
so where's the point where this affects how you program in it
 
7:57 PM
You can have two parallel instruction pointers which end up on the opposite side of each other if they go off the "edge" of the program (i.e., over the poles)
 
are the instructions arranged on this sphere with an IP like other 2d langs
 
Yes
 
@pxeger this is kind of what i was trying to ask abt before lol
 
8:15 PM
Presumably you'd be able to travel in a non-great-circle
Which means you could loop around in a small subset of the program's coordinates without ever changing your direction
 
I think you'd have to move in angles instead of distances to keep the implementation sane
So you could technically go in a non-great-circle but it would take the same amount of time as a great circle
 
circle lang, just use a circular tiling of the plane
@DLosc how long should i expect to wait for the "explain" button :P
oh im dumb
i thought it froze it was just waiting for me to click run
 
What if for a spherical language, instead of trying to divide it into tiled operators, you just make a voronoi diagram on the surface of the sphere
 
that being said i dont know what i thought was going to happen when i clicked explain, i still dont understand it :P
 
E.g., any points on the sphere closer to -30° 85° than any other operator will run that
 
8:22 PM
just googled voronoi diagram; what on earth
 
Voronoi diagram on the surface of a sphere
Conveniently already in i.stack.imgur form since I found it in an SO question :p
 
oh, that on earth
@RadvylfPrograms im not sure what this has to do with the voronoi diagram though
or how itd require one
 
That's the definition of a voronoi diagram. All of the points closer to one of a list of points than any other
 
ohhh
OHHH thats cool
 
So you'd provide a list of operators represented as an opcode and a position on the sphere
 
8:25 PM
i was like, wrestling with why they would be weird polygons n shit but it just clicked, that sounds awesome lol
 
Maybe whenever the IP passes between two regions on the diagram it'd run the operator it's now in
 
reminds me of piet :P
 
I think it was kind of weak to not just name it Mondrian. It's survival of the fittest out there in the esolang world, if you don't make a good esolang, someone should just steal your language's name and replace it with a better one.
 
i dont see the difference
 
@RadvylfPrograms you'd still need some kind of way of encoding the floating-point positions of the operators
 
8:28 PM
@pxeger Yeah, but you don't need to worry about trying to tile them in some weird way
 
Or would you just use a very fine integer grid?
 
You could just use latitude and longitude
If I'm understanding your question right
 
@RadvylfPrograms actually, that was one of the first golfing optimizations, intended to help with this challenge
 
Yeah that's what I mean
which is basically equivalent to using fixed point coordinates
but then how do you express that in the source code?
 
Oh, are you talking about like, the limitations of float precision?
 
8:30 PM
No I just mean that unlike a normal 2D lang on an integer grid, you can't put an operator (expressed as a character) in a fractional column position in a grid of source code
 
just have the resolution depend on the program: (a b) would put a and b further apart than (a b )
/bad
 
@pxeger Ohhhh like a 2d representation of the program for like, ASCII and byte count purposes?
 
yeah
 
Yeah I see what you mean
 
@thejonymyster I mean that would work but would lead to really massive programs even with very few operators
 
8:31 PM
yes lol
 
Probably would need to just do what Trianguish did, that being make a custom binary representation and use that
E.g., two 32-bit floats and an 8-bit int for each operator
 
@pxeger maybe some macros /rle type stuff to help it along?
cause if its mostly empty space thats compressible
 
Trying to optimise for low resolution could be an interesting challenge though
 
that too lol
 
Especially if a voronoi diagram sort of thing was used
 
8:34 PM
like hexagony gridsize golfing
 
Cause then with really limited resolution or even only a small part of the sphere you could still do interesting stuff with the other side
 
oh speaking of stuff like the other side, you could use only "half" the sphere if you make it possible to say like
"this operator is here but on the opposite side of the sphere"
 
@thejonymyster yeah but that's more directly related to the number of operators you use
 
right they just have similar idea shapes in my brain :-)
ofc do whatever makes most sense to you
but that method is my half serious suggestion officially
 
wow, left for 40 minutes and still basically same topic, amazing :P
 
8:59 PM
Really odd idea: You can only use some of the operators on one half of the sphere, and some on the other half
 
9:27 PM
@RadvylfPrograms if you propose this as a question (and I get elected), I will step down as mod on your 18th birthday, call for an election, then run against you and win
 
9:39 PM
@RadvylfPrograms Are you going to update radvylfprograms.com/countdown.html?
 
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Q: Compute GPA for a set of grades

ZagsGiven a set of letter grades, output the GPA (grade point average) of those grades, rounded to one decimal place. Valid grades and their corresponding value are the following: A = 4 grade points A- = 3.7 grade points B+ = 3.3 grade points B = 3 grade points B- = 2.7 grade points C+ = 2.3 grade po...

 
9:55 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing I thought that was gonna be bakde potatto
 
Nah, for once, Redwolf was serious :P
 
bakde potatto is amazing
 
Also congrats mods for 2 years of moderation!
Technically y'all were elected 2 weeks from now, 2 years ago, but this works as well :P
In fact, the proper 2 year anniversary for the current mods will happen during the nominations, so whoever wins will get their Sheriff badge ~20 days after the other 3 mods have their anniversary :P
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Not sure. I like that I have a counter on my website that has just been steadily ticking away for two years without realizing it's totally useless, but maybe it's worth giving its life purpose again
 
@RadvylfPrograms If there's ever a time to update it, that time would be whenever we have elections :P
 
10:05 PM
Fine, once the voting starts, I'll update it.
 
@RadvylfPrograms Wait, so the calculation is server side? I thought it was client side?
 
@user No, it's client side, but it's more fun to personify if we pretend it has a single unified mind
 
Agree
 
Redowlf updates it manually every second
 
Who's this Red Owl F?
 
10:14 PM
Redo Wolf
 
Dec 6, 2021 at 22:57, by hyper-neutrino
@cairdcoinheringaahing we've only had 9 elected mods; who's mod 10?
 
btw e-dowels are dowels with touchscreens and fitness trackers
@cairdcoinheringaahing lol the context is confusing, but definitely in a funny way
 
Also, just realised Glorfindel now has 8 diamonds O.o
 
Once he gets 10 he'll make two Infinity gauntlets and destroy 100% of us
 
I'm waiting for the 2030 CGCC mod election, where Glorfindel defeats Redwolf :P
 
10:20 PM
bc assuming Radvylf is 0, that's when they'll turn 18? :P
 
Redwolf turns 18 in 2024 IIRC, but I'm expecting pxeger or lyxal to win in 2024, then the other one of them to win in 2026, then Bubbler in 2028, and finally Redwolf in 2030, except Glorfindel comes in in the last second to sweep a win :P
Because the current TNB ROs are, for sure, going to be the most active members here in 8 years time
 
3045 AD: Glorfindel is the sole, unchallenged moderator of all the Stack Exchange sites. Prosus has bowed down to him. Jon Skeet has been absorbed into him. Glorfindel has acquired 1000 mod diamonds and 100 staff diamonds.
Despite the lack of democracy, it is a time of peace. The community's input is always taken into account. High rep users get unicorns. Each achievement gives you a waffle. Stack Overflow has lost its reputation for toxicity. People asking homework questions get skewered by unicorns. There is no more need for moderation because the Glorfindel entity is omniscient, omnipres
 
I mean RO elections aren't mod elections but that's not how it happened last time
 
Any idea who the moderator with the most diamonds is in the history of SE?
 
10:26 PM
Oh ok lol
 
Not counting staff members with 200 diamonds, I think the most recent election gives Glorfindel the win
@user Honestly, I'd be happy if Glorfindel was supreme dictator of SE. Not to say SE are doing bad now, but I reckon he'd be amazing :P
 
goodbye Glorfindel's personal life
assuming they have one ofc
 
lol yeah
Wonder how he hasn't burned out yet
Mods don't even get paid
 
Given that Glorfindel was born in the Blessed Lands under the light of the Two Trees, and he's the only elf so special that he was sent back to Middle Earth a second time after he died, it's fair to say he deserves all the diamonds.
 
lol
No rings though
 
10:29 PM
@user Honestly, whenever there's a "Please welcome employee #123456" MSE post, I expect it to be Glorfindel :P
@user He doesn't need a ring of power, he's that strong
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Is SE a particularly good company to be working for though? I assume most mods have better jobs
 
The power ratings in the Tolkien world, basically, go "Older = more powerful", and, of the beings alive in the Third Age, only Sauron, Durin's Bane, Galadriel, Cirdan and maybe Thranduil are older, and, of those, only Galadriel and Sauron have seen the light of the Two Trees and could rival Glorfindel in power
@user If you're a mod on 8 sites, clearly you enjoy engaging with SE sites through a moderation aspect, so working for SE could very reasonably be a good job
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing I have a few nits to pick with that, but yes, he's very old and very powerful.
 
@DLosc Go ahead, nit and pick :P
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Ah yeah, I forgot mods like moderating
 
10:36 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing Okay, definitely not Thandruil, he was born in the First Age, whereas Glorfindel was born in the Years of the Trees
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing 1) Depending how you count age, Gandalf and the other Istari are pretty old since they are Maiar. 2) Tom Bombadil is an enigma, of course, but he is called "oldest" IIRC; he may be as old as Middle Earth itself. 3) Treebeard is also super old; I don't remember the exact quote, but some character says something about him being one of the oldest beings you could meet.
 
You could argue that Durin's Bane is older than Glorfindel, but, Glorfindel has been residing in the Halls of Mandos, whereas Durin's Bane has been wasting away in Middle Earth
@DLosc Good point, Tom, Treebeard and the Istari are indisputably older
 
is treebeard indisputably older? i thought it was pretty vague what the ents actually are
like it's something that tolkien never really quite figured out for himself
 
Though, I would argue that Glorfindel would win in a fight vs Treebeard, or against Radagast or Gandalf the Grey. Saruman, or Gandalf the White would beat Glorfindel, and we don't know about the Blue Wizards
 
And you're absolutely right that Glorfindel don't need no ring, as proven by the fact that Frodo can see him just fine when he's partway to becoming a wraith and most everything else is getting fuzzy. :D
 
10:39 PM
@UnrelatedString Treebeard himself says he's older than basically every living thing
 
And, from Of Aule and Yavanna, we know that the Ents awoke before the Elves, and Glorfindel wasn't one of the first to awake, so we can assume the Ents are older than the Elves
 
Ooh, interesting--I forgot that chronology.
 
Also, if she still exists in Aman, Ungoliant is older than Glorfindel, but that's a big "if" :P
 
This is one of the things I love about the Lord of the Rings: there are some things about the world that nobody knows, in- or out-of-universe, and we can only speculate. Rather like the real world.
 
10:43 PM
yeah
feels authentically mythological in a way
 
@DLosc Tolkien got bored of all Christopher's questions and just responded with "They don't know" :P
But also, the way he told the story - as a translator, rather than as an author - meant that he could do that, as people in the world genuinely didn't know, so he couldn't know either
 
Oh man... now I almost want to write an essay about Tom Bombadil and why the fact that such a person exists in Middle Earth is actually super important to the themes of the story.
 
@Bubbler oh shit thats a really interesting way to handle that :D
 
hehe
 
10:56 PM
@DLosc He's the first case of ADHD in Middle Earth :P
 
@Bubbler why does the thickness use a polynomial instead of squaring the digits?
 
Because that's the definition I found on the OEIS
 
well thats unnecessarily complicated
 
@Seggan Squaring the digits is a lot easier
 
@Seggan all challenges are :-)
@Bubbler lGtm
 
11:05 PM
"looks GREAT to me"?
 
yes :-)
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing i know. thats why i asked
 
a cat program is even easier, why dont we just do that
 
Not in Java it isn't :P
 
Serious comment: I wanted both tasks to be reasonably complex, so that it can measure the "fitness" more accurately (or at least attempts to)
 
11:11 PM
yeah but the task isnt immediately obvious
 
i mean how to measure a number's thickness
 
it explains it pretty clearly in the post though doesnt it
 
damn, I thought you were thejonymaster all along
 
or wait do you mean like
not obvious to solve?
cause i dont see how itd be that hard in a reasonable programming language
 
11:15 PM
as in how to do it. all you have to do is square the digits, but the description rattles on about polynomials
 
oh is that really the same thing?
 
yeah
 
no
 
how
 
Squaring the coefficients of a polynomial is not the same as squaring the polynomial
E.g. x+1
 
11:16 PM
oh yeah
i forgot that
 
in golflang speak: base convert -> self outer product by multiplication -> diagonal sums -> max
 
is how you'd do it straightforwardly
 
lol i love golflang speak
but yeah fair if it was that simple thatd definitely be an overcomplicated description
 
Convolution square
3 bytes in Jelly
 
11:18 PM
convoluted square more like :P
 
lol
 
if someone took 200ish random good challenges from the site and turned them all into 1 byte builtins and used the rest as the rest of the lang's structure, do you think itd be any good at any other challenges
 
@Bubbler I'm not sure if you can really compare programs that take different numbers of inputs
@thejonymyster Depends on the challenges
 
@thejonymyster I mean, you'd be using a 64 built-in language with a 33% byte penalty, basically
 
Hmm yeah, that's something to consider
 
11:22 PM
There's no way more than 10 of the challenges are useful as built-ins themselves
 
i just think its funny to imagine a lang's wiki having an operator whose description is just a cgse link
 
My hobby: going through every golflang builtin one at a time and making it a CMC
 
(definitely would be insufficient explanation but lol)
@DLosc we should get randal munroe into code golf; hes already expressed interest in regex golf
@Bubbler wait question: do robbers take your entire solution's score? or just how much they saved off your solution?
 
the difference of scores before and after golf
 
CMC: Given a list of integers, return a list of the indices that correspond to nonzero values in the original list. The indices can be 0-based or 1-based, your choice. Ex: [5,0,-1,0,0,42,0] -> [0,2,5] (0-based) or [1,3,6] (1-based).
 
11:27 PM
@Bubbler What if we can prove our solutions are optimal?
Because I have an optimal Jelly solution to Task 1
And I think I could create an optimal Jelly solution to Task 2
 
Nothing special to do in that case
just that robbers won't be able to target that specific answer
There's a robbers category but the challenge isn't strictly CnR
 
So, if I can create a theoretically optimal answer, I can only be beaten by an answer that is also optimal, but shorter?
 
@DLosc Fig, 0.823 bytes: T (Try it Online)
 
@thejonymyster And an interest in code golf itself
 
Also, if \$T_1 = 1, T_2 = 3\$, this gets the same score as \$T_1 = 3, T_2 = 9\$?
 
11:31 PM
If your both sols are optimal, the score for that lang is fixed forever, that's it
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing yes
 
I'm not sure I'm a fan of that scoring criteria
 
@RadvylfPrograms wait is it?
 
I whipped up a Jelly soluion which scores 12/5 = 2.4, but I could easily add a space to my first answer to get a solution of 2
 
11:33 PM
@thejonymyster It was posted right around the time that the Moby Dick challenge was posted here. No way it's a coincidence.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing higher score is better
 
ohh i didnt recognize the writing lol
im a fake code golfer, never have read moby dick
 
@DLosc Pip, 7 bytes: !*a@*:0
 
we should do that one again but with finnegans wake
 
11:35 PM
@Bubbler What if my score is 1? :P
Also, highest score kinda punishes golfing langs (in the same way code golf punishes praclangs)
 
Well then you found a language that perfectly balances the two tasks :P
and I'd expect specialized golflangs actually do great
 
But muh Jelly
 
@DLosc that doesnt look like the shortest solution to me
 
@Seggan Maybe not--do you have a shorter one?
 
though such a golflang would have to be very specialized in one way or another
and that's not how you normally design golflangs these days :P
 
11:38 PM
@DLosc idk pip but im quire sure enumeration and filter would be shorter?
unless that is it
 
@Seggan That is 8 bytes: a@_FI,#a
 
@Bubbler Lemme just whip up a brand new language :P
 
ah, nvm then
 
1 byte to do Task 1, 100 to do Task 2 :P
 
That's a loophole! :P
 
11:40 PM
@DLosc 1 based js 37 bytes x=>x.map((w,a)=>w?a+1:0).filter(w=>w) fun :-)
 
@DLosc BQN, 6 bytes: ⊑∘⊔0⊸=
 
@DLosc Vyxal, 3 bytes: ⁽ḃḟ Try it Online!
 
@Bubbler Idk what you're talking about, I had no idea about this challenge, I just thought that the thickness of a number would be a helpful builtin. And also, ThicknessOfAStringAccordingToTheDefinitionThatBubblerSuggestedAWhileBackInTheNineteenthByteAFewMonthsOrMaybeYearsAgo is just a common builtin :P
 
i remembered to boolean operators :-)
 
11:46 PM
Haskell, 29 bytes: f l=[i|(i,x)<-zip[0..]l,x/=0]
 
oh wait
fixed link
 
hmm that might be a tad illegal
 
... Kinda? Tell you what, I'll give you partial credit for it ^_^
 
lol :P i want to believe theres a way to golf it this way to not be janky but its beyond me
do any langs have mapping that lets you map an item to Nothing so that it acts like a filter at the same time
 
oh wow that would be cool
 
11:52 PM
Rust: iterator.flat_map()
 
oh Koltin has mapNotNull
 
what does mapnotnull do
 
maps and removes nulls I guess?
 
ok makes sense haha
 
@thejonymyster I golfed it to not be janky and then realized the result was exactly your 36-byte solution ;)
 
11:55 PM
LOL :-) good
good cmc
 
@Bubbler yep
argh i keep misspelling kotlin
 
@thejonymyster Thank Dennis, plus the fact that I recently implemented this for FunStack and thought my Haskell solution was interesting.
 
Thank you dennis
terrible idea: negative strings
use case: cancelling out positive strings, string sorting, profit
 
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