The Nineteenth Byte

It attracts/attracted tons of low-effort, duplicate answers; it created a broken window for restricted-source; and it's so highly upvoted that people think it's a good example of a question here

user

:(

Time for protection?

emanresu A

10:21 PM

Actually yes

that dobe poggers idea

Browncat Programs

That's one of the few questions I think we should have protected

emanresu A

Ok:

user

How vote for protection?

Dude coinheringaahing

Done (mainly cause I wanted to see it's stats)

It's had 63 deleted answers, out of 367

@user Have 15k

user

:( can i haz bountys

emanresu A

10:23 PM

Has 13.5k

:(

^^^

Browncat Programs

Has 12.xk

:(

^^^^^^

Dude coinheringaahing

OTOH it hasn't had an answer in the last 30 days, and the last answer by someone with 101/1 rep was on Feb 13th

Browncat Programs

I say 12.xk because every time I hit 13k I bounty it away :p

emanresu A

Oh lol

Browncat Programs

I'll probably hit 15k just in time for best of 2021 and decide to sign up for like ten of them :p

Dude coinheringaahing

10:25 PM

Fun fact: We have 3 protected questions, and I protected all 3 of them :P

emanresu A

Google doodle, 2014 -what's #3?

Browncat Programs

There should be a badge called Guard or Guardian or something for protecting lots of questions :p

Dude coinheringaahing

47

Q: Longest common substring in linear time

This challenge is about writing code to solve the following problem. Given two strings A and B, your code should output the start and end indices of a substring of A with the following properties. The substring of A should also match some substring of B. There should be no longer substring of ...

emanresu A

Oh

That one

15 deleted anwers

user

@Dudecoinheringaahing He protec

emanresu A

10:26 PM

restricted-complexity is the worst.

Browncat Programs

Just get around it with code that takes infinitely long to compile, and produces a lookup table of every possible input :p

user

genius

Browncat Programs

If I've got a universal turing machine with unlimited tape I'll use it dammit

Dude coinheringaahing

But do you got it? :P

Browncat Programs

I used haskell so more tape just spontaneously appears when I call for it :p

emanresu A

10:29 PM

I use double-sided tape.

Browncat Programs

There's a common misconception that ergot poisoning was responsible for the witch hunts of the 1600s; it was actually just functional programming

Dude coinheringaahing

@user More accurately: they unprotec :P

emanresu A

@BrowncatPrograms I thought it was because someone parsed HTML with regex?

Dude coinheringaahing

I'll write up an SEDE query in a bit to find out how many unprotections I've done, but it's most of them IIRC :P

user

lol, Community?

Dude coinheringaahing

10:32 PM

7

Q: Can we disable auto-protection?

Currently, the system protects any challenge that either: Has 3 deleted answers from new users Has multiple answers from new users within a short amount of time We already have a policy that basically says "99.99% of questions here do not need to be protected". In short, we encourage answering ...

feature-request status-completed protected-questions

DLosc

@emanresuA Sounds like an idea for an esolang

Dude coinheringaahing

I've done 102 unprotections, Dennis is second with 64

emanresu A

God joob

DLosc

Uhh... why do my width:100% textareas extend partway into the padding of their surrounding div, but only on the right side?

emanresu A

10:47 PM

Because CSS sussy

Neil

because the default box sizing sucks

DLosc

I mean, I'm inclined to agree. :P But I'd still like an explanation.

It's making the placement of my permalink button look slightly off. #firstworldproblems

emanresu A

Btw, can we have a post template / markdown link template?

Post template is:

[BitCycle]({link to bitcycle repo}), {length} byte(s)

```
{code}
```

[Try It Online!]({permalink})

Replace bits in {} with appropriate thiing

DLosc

Yeah, I'll consider that. (Although the above complaint doesn't apply to BitCycle but to the new language I'm working on.)

In re: BitCycle, I've been working on implementing a character I/O mode, and finding that there's lots of little choices and I don't know which is best.

For example: should the bits in each byte be output least-significant-first or most-significant-first?

My initial inclination was to do most-significant-first, like you did in your submissions. But then I thought about making a program to output all characters, and realized that writing a binary incrementer would be a lot easier (I think) if it's least-significant-first.

So now I'm not sure.

emanresu A

11:04 PM

You could just allow both :p

DLosc

As in, add a flag to determine which order is used?

Wezl

more flags <-> more better

and yes I did just install python only to prove that ruby is better :P

DLosc

@DLosc Okay, I think I figured it out. The width of the textarea's content is 100%. But the 2px of padding and 1px of border don't count as content, so those are over and above the 100%.

smh

Neil

@DLosc exactly, since the default box sizing is content-box. if you change the box-sizing to border-box then you probably get the effect you want

DLosc

11:19 PM

@Neil Wonderful! Thanks :D

@Wezl I bet Perl has more :P

Browncat Programs

@Wezl Why're the Ls in --heLp capitalized?

Unrelated String

probably the font

exedraj

@BrowncatPrograms are they using gpt3?

Unrelated String

like it's a font that just makes lowercase l look more like uppercase l to distinguish it from uppercase i

speaking of distinguishing things i'm learning russian cursive and how the hell am i supposed to write м differently from и after letters that end low

exedraj

11:35 PM

@BrowncatPrograms ^

See, python to Java is ez

Unrelated String

smh

rak1507

transpiling python to java is going to be extremely difficult if not impossible if you want to keep eval/exec/runtime code execution in general

Unrelated String

the java to python direction is probably easier which is not to say it's easy

rak1507

yeah static type -> dynamic type is definitely easier than the reverse

Unrelated String

^

rak1507

11:38 PM

and like, a billion times easier

if you could enforce that all python functions were basically statically typed maybe with type annotations, and you didn't do anything too crazy like eval/exec it would probably be doable but still very hard

Unrelated String

if you want to make really hideous java you could use some huge mess of Objects and downcasting but even that takes extra effort

emanresu A

What about, say, JS to Python?

rak1507

JS to python is probably very hard because of all the casting stuff

well, maybe not very hard, but I imagine you'd basically have to define JS types and use them everywhere

Unrelated String

yeah

emanresu A

The casting isn't that different...

rak1507

11:40 PM

whereas in java or whatever you could just probably get away with using regular strings and whatnot

emanresu A

f-strings?

r-strings

rak1507

@emanresuA there's no way in hell you're going to get [] + {} to equal "[object Object]" in vanilla python

by using somewhat equivalent data types

Wezl

@UnrelatedString good guess. It is the font, but the l is curled to make it fill the space, similar to how many monospace fonts have ls like this ->

Dude coinheringaahing

Just define your own classes :P

Wezl

rak1507

11:41 PM

going to need to do class JsObject:...

@Dudecoinheringaahing exactly

Unrelated String

@Wezl ahh ofc

emanresu A

You're assuming no eval or anything - I think saying no crazy typecasting is fine...

rak1507

yeah, that's true

if you can assume that, probably not too bad...

not sure if there are any good modules for working on a JS ast, python has ast module

emanresu A

npm will have a ast module somewhere

rak1507

probably lol

Wezl

11:42 PM

(the i is just as curled)

Dude coinheringaahing

CMP: Which users have protected and unprotected the most questions? :P

emanresu A

You

and Community

Dude coinheringaahing

Community was crazy protective :P

361 protections

exedraj

@Dudecoinheringaahing In terms of users, you can see the top 300 users on the Recent Changes page. As for the most protected questions, the most protected questions are all ones that we have decided to close. The large number of protected questions is because we have to protect the question while we read it. After we read it, we can edit the status of the question to open or closed.

Dude coinheringaahing

@exedraj Hi GPT-3. How's life?

user

11:47 PM

@UnrelatedString How do other people write it?

@Dudecoinheringaahing I'm GPT-3, I have no life.

exedraj

@Dudecoinheringaahing Surprisingly it picked up on the idea that protecting questions is a Stack Exchange thing

Unrelated String

i've done some cursory looking for examples but haven't found anything clear

exedraj

CMP: What's your favorite Stack Exchange site?

PJ: I like them all equally, but if I had to choose a favorite, I would say Stack Overflow.

user

lol

Dude coinheringaahing

Traitor

exedraj

11:48 PM

Hey don't blame me, blame your question

user

Traitor? GPT never said it was with us

emanresu A

Ask it to golf your python

Dude coinheringaahing

Hang on, why is Bubbler's pfp on the wiki their cat one, but mine and Redwolf's are our old ones? :P

emanresu A

CMC: Post the amogus unicode character. First to do so wins.

DLosc

@emanresuA the amogus unicode character

exedraj

11:52 PM

@emanresuA doesn't want to

rak1507

@emanresuA ⍝

good enough :P

@emanresuA ඞ

@exedraj Congrates

congrates?

@Dudecoinheringaahing because the people who added those pictures mustn'tv'e realised the idea is that pictures are supposed to be the usual pfps

@emanresuA I'd like to thank a certain bot for this epic victory

in Vyxal, 2 mins ago, by Vyxal Bot

@exedraj ඞ

Very cool vyxal bot

Wezl

11:56 PM

@exedraj I thought the idea was that the cat pictures are supposed to become the usual pfps

emanresu A

Wait it's running again?

exedraj

@Wezl hell no

To frick with that

@emanresuA you didn't see?

@Wezl haven't you seen that except for a few people, everyone has returned to normal?

emanresu A

I was slepe

exedraj

@emanresuA no, you weren't.

You're emanresu A

emanresu A

Or not in Vyxal, at least

Wezl

11:57 PM

@exedraj nope, I haven't been in the TTNB recently and besides, this is all I see:

exedraj

@Wezl then ur a sussy baka

Dude coinheringaahing

> the TTNB

Wezl

Dude coinheringaahing

no :P

rak1507

@Wezl Weird, identicons don't load for you?

exedraj

11:58 PM

@Dudecoinheringaahing the The The Nineteenth Byte?

rak1507

gravatar blocked or something?

Wezl

I'm on a school chromebook so they try to get blocked, but the blocker doesn't recognize them as image urls, so it returns an html page redirecting to their website

rak1507

ah

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